HomeMy WebLinkAbout6.5.2013 plan review(Health and Wellness Suites)Health and Wellness Suites of Carmel
American Structurepoint, Inc.
June 5, 2013
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June 5, 2013 1st Review
Mr. Ross L. Nixon, P.E.
American Structurepoint, Inc.
7260 Shadeland Station
Indianapolis, IN 46256
RE: Health and Wellness Suites of Carmel
Drainage Review
Technical Advisory Committee
Engineering Review for Development Drainage Designs
Dear Mr. Nixon:
The stormwater review of the construction plans dated May 17, 2013 and drainage calculations dated
May 17, 2013 for the above referenced project has been completed. The submittal is in need of
additional information in order to be in compliance with the City of Carmel Stormwater Technical
Standard Manual (the Manual). Please revise the plans and calculations in accordance with the
comments below:
1. Per Section 102.02 v.b, please provide normal water elevation for the pond adjacent to the
southeast corner of the project site.
2. Per Section 102.02 v.g, please provide the land uses of the adjacent properties.
3. Per Section 102.02 vii, please revise the plan/profile sheets to include the elevations, location of
all proposed storm sewers, including subsurface drains, top of casting elevations, structure
numbers, pipe invert elevations, casting type, structure type, and all existing and proposed utility
crossings also shall be indicated. Plan and profile sheets are subject to further review and
comment after aforementioned information is provided.
4. Per Section 102.02 xi, a grading plan shall include the following:
g. Please provide the 100 year overflow paths ponding areas shown as hatched areas
with all associated easements.
h. Indication as to the system being public or private.
j. Location, size and dimensions of detentions facilities including pond elevations,
pond bottom elevations, top of bank elevations, spillway location and elevations,
and transverse slopes of dry detention areas.
k. Emergency flood routing path(s) and their invert elevations from detention
facilities to the receiving system.
l. One or more typical cross sections of all existing/proposed channels (swale at the
outlet of the detention pond) and other open drainage facilities (detention pond)
carried to a point above the 100-year high water and showing the existing land and
proposed changes together with the high water elevation expected from the 100-
year storm. Please provide typical cross sections of the detention facility. Grading
sheets are subject to further review and comment after aforementioned
information is provided.
Health and Wellness Suites of Carmel
American Structurepoint, Inc.
June 5, 2013
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5. Per Section 102.02 xiv, please revise the Structure Data Table in the plan set to include, at
minimum, the following: upstream structure number, downstream structure number, upstream
pipe elevation, downstream pipe elevation, pipe length, pipe material, type of structure, and
detail reference to the type of structure and any notes related to the structure. Please review
and revise accordingly.
6. Per Section 102.03 i.a.i, the pre-development watershed map shall include the drainage area
designation corresponding to the designation in the drainage calculations, the area in acres for
each drainage area and any off-site drainage areas that need to be accommodated by the system,
including the fully developed right-of-way per the City of Carmel Thoroughfare Plan. It appears
the fully developed Right-of-Way per the City of Carmel Thoroughfare Plan was not included in
the existing drainage basin. Please review and revise accordingly.
7. Per Section 102.03 i.b.ii, the proposed watershed map shall show that all off-site acreage
draining through the site is accommodated, including the fully developed right-of-way per the
City of Carmel Thoroughfare Plan. It does not appear the fully developed Right-of-Way was
included in the proposed watershed map. Please review and revise accordingly.
8. Per Section 102.03 i.b.iv, please include the runoff curve numbers and time of concentration on
the existing drainage basin map.
9. Per Section 104.02, the buildings lowest entry elevation that is adjacent to and facing the road
shall be a minimum of 15 inches above the road. Also, finished floor elevations or the lowest
building entry elevations shall be no less than 6 inches above the finished grade around the
building. Also, minimum flood protection grade of all structures fronting a pond shall be no less
than 2 feet above any adjacent 100-year local or regional flood elevations, whichever is greater.
Please provide elevations for the finished floor and the minimum lowest adjacent grade, as well
as the 100-year elevation in all storage basins including underground storage facilities in the
pervious pavement.
10. Per Section 302.04, the initially determined hydrologic group for disturbed areas should be
changed to the next less infiltrating capacity category (i.e., A to B, B to C, and C to D). It does not
appear that the on-site soils have been adjusted accordingly. Please review and revise
accordingly.
11. Per Section 302.06.1, the detention facility shall be designed in such a manner that a minimum of
90% of the maximum volume of water stored and subsequently released at the design release
rate shall not result in storage duration in excess of 48 hours from the start of the storm. Please
review and revise accordingly.
12. Per Section 302.06.4, all stormwater detention facilities shall be separated from any road right of
way by no less than fifty (50) feet. Please review and revise accordingly.
13. The proposed wet detention basin shall be designed in accordance with allowable release rates
per Section 302.03 of the Manual and the restricted release rates of the Hamilton County
surveyor. Detention calculations are required to be provided that indicates the orifice size
required to limit the release to acceptable rates, the resulting critical pond and spillway
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American Structurepoint, Inc.
June 5, 2013
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elevations, and that sufficient volume provided to accommodate the release rates being limited
to the acceptable rates ( they have been provided within the submitted drainage report). The
critical pond elevations resulting from this method of modeling shall be used in the MFPG/MLAG
determinations. Since the resulting orifice size is less than the minimum 6-inch orifice
requirement of Section 302.06.07, the lower orifice shall be upsized to a 6-inch diameter orifice.
The upper orifice should then be sized appropriately to restrict the 100-year storm to the
required restricted release rate. Stormwater modeling information shall be provided for both
scenarios in the drainage report. Please note that the invert elevations of the orifices shall be
designed so that the outlet structure can be revised to meet the restricted release rates, if
required in the future. Please review and revise accordingly.
14. Per Section 302.06.12, detention basins shall be sized to detain the runoff from the fully
developed right-of-way per the City of Carmel 20-year Thoroughfare Plan across all frontages,
regardless of existing watershed boundaries or drainage breaks/divides. The acreage of the full
right-of-way width may be included in the overall acreage of the development in determining the
allowable release rates. Please review and revise accordingly.
15. Per Section 303.07, the ponding and overflow path throughout the development resulting in the
100-year storm event, in the instance the drainage system is completely plugged should be
clearly shown in a hatched area. Also, all buildings shall have a minimum flood protection grade
no less than 2 feet above any adjacent 100-year local or regional flood elevation.
16. Per Section 305.05, the inlet grate design shall be adequate to pass the design 10-year flow with
50% of the sag inlet clogged. It does not appear this was taken into account, please review and
revise accordingly.
17. Per Section 306.02.D, a minimum of 15 feet beyond the actual footprint (top of the bank or the
100-year pond elevation if no top of bank is present) of stormwater detention facilities shall be
designated as drainage easement. A minimum 20-foot width easement shall also be required as
access easement from a public right-of-way to the facility.
18. Based on concerns raised by the HCSO and the Carmel Engineering Department, please revise the
drainage report to include calculations for a downstream analysis of the proposed receiving
system for the discharge from the site. The analysis should verify the required and provided
capacity of the swale at the outfall of the detention outlet and of the receiving regulated drain
storm sewer system. Also, peak flood elevations should be analyzed within the receiving swales
in comparison to the eastern adjacent development (invert elevation of the detention outlet
appears to be higher than spot grades at the property line and within the adjacent parking lot).
And lastly, the condition and flow characteristics of the receiving swale should be analyzed.
19. In review of the existing drainage conditions on site, it appears that the project area currently
drains south/southeast to the adjacent off-site detention pond. Depending on the results of the
downstream analysis requested in Comment #18, this off-site detention pond may be a more
adequate receiving system for the detained site discharge. It will need to be verified that the
approved drainage calculations for the off-site pond accounted for this watershed area, and that
the detention facility is sufficient to handle the project’s detained flow prior to approval. Also,
additional coordination should be completed with the HCSO and the Carmel Engineering
Department for this scenario prior to approval.
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American Structurepoint, Inc.
June 5, 2013
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Please include with your construction plans, and secondary plat submittal, one (1) copy of the
comments indicating the action taken or a written explanation for action not taken in respect to the
above comments. The construction plans, drainage calculations and secondary plat are not to be
submitted without implementing changes with respect to these comments, and any and all review
comments from the City of Carmel and the Hamilton County Surveyor’s Office.
CrossRoad Engineers, P.C.
3417 South Sherman Drive.
Beech Grove, IN 46107
Once all other agency approvals are obtained, a .pdf of the final drainage report shall be supplied to the
Carmel Engineering Department when the final construction sets of plans are submitted for stamped
approval.
Please contact me at (317) 780-1555 ext. 112 with any questions.
Sincerely,
CrossRoad Engineers, P.C.
Gregory J. Ilko, P.E.
Senior Project Manager
copy: Gary Duncan, City of Carmel Assistant Engineer
Greg Hoyes, Hamilton County Surveyors Office
John Thomas, City of Carmel MS-4 Operator
Amanda Foley, City of Carmel Engineering Department
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