HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes PC 02-22-01 Con'd Feb 20 mtJ. New Business:
City of Carmel
Plan Commission
February 22, 2001
New Business Items Carried Over from February 20, 2001
The regularly scheduled meeting of the February 20, 2001 Plan Commission met in continuation
in the Council Chambers of City Hall, Carmel, Indiana on Thursday, February 22, 2001. Only
New Business items from the February 20, 2001 meeting were to be reviewed.
Commission Members present: Marilyn Anderson; Kent Broach; David Cremeans; Leo
Dierckman; Madeline Fitzgerald; Linda Flanders; Ron Houck; Nick Kestner; Dianna Knoll;
Norma Meighen; Pat Rice; John Sharpe; Paul Spranger, and Wayne Wilson.
Steve Engelking, Terry Jones and Laurence Lillig attended the meeting on behalf of the
Department of Community Services. John Molitor, Legal Counsel was also present.
lj. Docket No. 181 -00 ADLS; Hazel Dell Corner, Lot 1 (Osco Drug)
Petitioner seeks Architectural Design, Lighting, Landscaping Signage approval for a
pharmacy. The site is located at 5790 East 131s Street. The site is zoned B-
3/business.
Filed by J. Murray Clark of Clark Quinn Moses Clark for Osco Drug.
Murray Clark, attorney with offices at One Indiana Square, Suite 2200, Indianapolis appeared
before the Commission representing the applicant with respect to the ADLS petition at 5790 East
131s Street, the northwest quadrant of the round -about at 131s Street and Hazel Dell Parkway.
The site was zoned B-3/Business in 1995. The primary plat for Hazel Dell Corner was approved
in the year 2000.
The ADLS petition was filed October 26, 2000; a Special Use Request was filed prior to that on
October 13, 2000. The commitments filed in 1995 require that the Plan Commission has the right
to review and approve the Architectural Design, Lighting, Landscape and Signage plans for the
buildings. There are many approved uses for this site; a special use for a drug store on this site
was filed October 13, 2000.
The current proposal is for the construction of a 15,251 square foot drugstore, (Osco) including a
pharmacy drive through. The BZA approved the Special Use application January 22, 2001.
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Development Standard Variances were also filed on this property —two of them deal with setback
issues —side yard and greenbelt. A variance request was also filed for the sign package on the site.
The BZA has tabled the Development Standard issues until the Plan Commission deals with the
ADLS petition with finality.
The Department has requested that the petitioner limit his sign request for two wall signs, and an
identification sign for the drive through facility. The size of those signs would be consistent with
the sign chart as a part of the Sign Ordinance.
William Slesher, Gold Evans and Goodman, architects spoke to the Commission regarding
architectural detail on the building. The ultimate goal was for the drugstore building to fit in with
the residential look and feel of the area through landscaping and trees, breaking up the size of the
building. Mullions have been added at the doors and windows for a residential appearance;
dormers have also been added and two types of brick are being used.
Mr. Clark asked for a final vote this evening on the ADLS petition.
Department Comments, Laurence Lillig. The Department has no problem with the submission
that is in keeping with the Department's suggestions.
Docket No. 181 -00 ADLS, Hazel Dell Corner, Lot 1 (Osco Drug) was referred to the Special
Study Committee for further review on March 6, 2001 at 7:00 PM in the Caucus Rooms of City
Hall.
2j. This Item Currently Tabled Pending the Filing of the Development Plan:
Docket No. 185 -00 ADLS; Town Centre West
Petitioner seeks Architectural Design, Lighting, Landscaping Signage approval for a
mixed -use development on 34.825± acres. The site is located in the 11000 block of
North Michigan Road. The site is zoned S -1 /residence within the US 421/Michigan
Road Overlay Zone.
Note: This Item is paired with Item 5i. under Old Business.
Filed by Michael Speedy of American Village Properties.
Tabled
3j. Docket No. 7 -01 ADLS; Hazel Dell Corner, Lot 5
Petitioner seeks Architectural Design, Lighting, Landscaping Signage approval for
an office building on 1.832± acres. The site is located at 13250 Hazel Dell Parkway.
The site is zoned B- 3/business.
Filed by Michael B. Jett of American Consulting Engineers for Hazel Dell Office
Development, LLC.
Jim Nelson, 3663 Brumley Way, Carmel, attorney with Nelson and Frankenberger appeared
before the Commission representing Cornerstone Companies and its affiliate, Hazel Dell Office
LLC and its principal owner, Bob Whitaker. Gary Duncan, American Consulting Engineers, was
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also present.
The request for ADLS approval is for a professional office building on Lot 5, Hazel Dell Corner,
located at 13250 Hazel Dell Parkway. Lot 5 is the northern -most lot in Hazel Dell Corner.
Access to lot 5 from Hazel Dell Parkway is at one point, aligned with Ivy Hill Drive eastward into
Plum Creek North. Ivy Hill Drive will be extended for a short distance westward to provide a
shared access to lot 5 as well as lot 6.
The plan for the office building is conservative conservative as to use, scale and intensity,
design, lighting, and signage. With respect to use, this is a professional office use permitted under
B -3. As to scale and intensity, this is a single story building, 15,220 square feet with 51 parking
spaces. With respect to design, it is traditional with real brick materials. The lighting consists
only of lighting for a single, ground identification sign as well as three, 16 feet high, pole
mounted, single lamp, shoebox style fixtures and one, pole- mounted, two -lamp fixture.
The location of the building is near the western edge of the property with the front oriented
toward Hazel Dell Parkway. The 51 parking spaces are located to the north, between the front of
the building and Hazel Dell. The single ground sign is perpendicular to Hazel Dell Parkway.
Around the perimeter, within the parking area and adjacent to the building is the landscaping —the
specific plan of which is on file with the Department.
As previously mentioned, the primary building material is red brick with iron specks; accents
provided by white cast stone window caps and coins with a shingled roof —gray /brown in color.
The single identification sign is a ground sign, 15 square feet in size and identifies "Carmel
Professional Office Building." The trash refuse area is constructed of brick columns and wood,
12X12 feet, and 6 feet, 8 inches tall.
The petitioner will be appearing before the Board of Zoning Appeals Monday, February 26
requesting a Special Use consistent with B -3. A variance is also being requested to permit a 15
square foot sign in size.
Department Comments, Laurence Lillig. The Department is recommending this item be
forwarded to the March 6 meeting of the Special Study Committee.
Pat Rice suggested that additional dormers be looked at and agreed that the building is indeed
conservative —so much so that it has little character.
Madeline Fitzgerald asked that the Committee look at drainage for this project and potential
runoff into neighboring residential properties.
Nick Kestner asked about access to the multi purpose path for public use.
Docket No. 7 -01 ADLS, Hazel Dell Corner, Lot was forwarded to the Special Study Committee
for further review on March 6, 2001.
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4j. Docket No. 16 -01 ADLS Amend; The Retreat
Petitioner seeks Architectural Design, Lighting, Landscaping Signage
Amendment approval to alter the Landscape Plan approved with Docket No. 36-
99 Z. The site is located on the northwest corner of East 96 Street and Westfield
Boulevard. The site is zoned S -2 /residence.
Filed by Harry F. Todd of Gibraltar Properties.
Harry Todd, Gibraltar Properties, 3815 River Crossing Parkway, Indianapolis appeared before the
Commission. Gibraltar is the general partner of GPI Carmel LP that owns The Retreat at 96 and
Westfield Boulevard.
At the time this project came before the Commission in 1999, certain commitments were made to
develop the property in accordance with a preliminary site plan and preliminary landscape plan
that were submitted to the Department of Community Services. After obtaining zoning approval,
construction commenced on the development that included a neighborhood park, a trailhead for
the Monon, and re- locating an easement to a cell tower.
However, the development team revised the landscape plan as a cost saving measure. The DOCS
noted that the landscape plan was not what had been previously approved, and hence, additional
approval is required. Mark Timmons, nationally known landscape architect was hired. A new
landscape plan was devised and substantial landscaping was added. The new plan was submitted
to the Urban Forester and subsequently approved.
In addition to landscape changes, there are some minor site plan revisions, but the Department
prefers that a petition be filed to modify zoning commitments to address those changes.
Department Comments, Laurence Lillig. Scott Brewer, Urban Forester, has determined that the
new landscape plan is superior to the one originally filed.
Pat Rice asked if consideration had been given to the extension of the wrought -iron fence along
the front. Mr. Todd responded that it was considered, however, it was deemed cost prohibitive
and not included in the new plan. There are substantially more trees along Westfield Boulevard
than was originally shown.
Pat Rice asked that the Committee look at the landscaping in view of the neighborhood park that
is a part of this development.
Docket No. 16 -01 ADLS Amend, The Retreat was referred to the Special Study Committee for
further review on March 6, 2001 in the Caucus Rooms of City Hall.
5j. Docket No. 21 -01 ADLS Amend; Fidelity Keystone Office Park
Petitioner seeks Architectural Design, Lighting, Landscaping Signage
Amendment approval to establish a Sign Plan for the project approved as Docket
No. 36 -00 ADLS. The site is located at 580, 600 650 East Carmel Drive. The
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site is zoned B -8 /business.
Filed by Gordon D. Byers for FKOP LLC.
Gordon Byers, attorney representing the applicant, and Greg Small, principal in the office
complex appeared before the Commission. The two office buildings located to the north of the
existing building were approved for ADLS last year. At that time, the petitioner agreed to return
to Plan Commission for signage approval.
The sign package is for an office park sign, two directional signs, two directory signs, and signage
under the Ordinance that is on the face of the building. The Directory sign is non illuminated,
3X6 square feet, and landscaping surrounding. The main sign on Carmel Drive depicts Fidelity
Office Park. The two directional signs are not illuminated.
A maximum of three signs is allowed for this development. The size of the sign is a function of
the distance of the sign from the right -of -way as well as the size of the face. The signs are backlit,
brushed aluminum, four inches thick, and set two inches from the building.
The buildings are identical, and signage approval is requested for both buildings.
Gordon Byers was hopeful of a suspension of the Rules of Procedure for a final vote.
Department Comments, Laurence Lillig. The Department is requesting that this item be sent to
the March Special Study Committee. Aesthetically, the plan seems OK to the Department,
however there are problems with the Center identification signs meeting the requirements of the
Ordinance. At present, there is definitely one —and possibly two —sign violations on this
property. No approval should be granted while there are sign violations in existence.
Docket No. 21 -01 ADLS Amend, Fidelity Keystone Office Park was referred to the Special Study
Committee for further review on March 6, 2001.
There being no further business to come before the Commission, the meeting was adjourned at
8:45 PM.
Ramona Hancock, Secretary
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Marilyn Anderson, President
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