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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes PC 09-18-01City of Carmel CARMEL /CLAY PLAN COMMISSION SEPTEMBER 18, 2001 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Carmel/Clay Plan Commission met at 7:00 PM on September 18, 2001 in the Council Chambers of City Hall, Carmel, Indiana. Members present: Marilyn Anderson; Kent Broach; David Cremeans, Leo Dierckman; Madeline Fitzgerald; Linda Flanders; Wayne Haney; Ron Houck; Nick Kestner; Norma Meighen; Pat Rice; Paul Spranger; and Wayne Wilson. A quorum was declared. Department of Community Services Staff in attendance: Director Michael Hollibaugh, Jon Dobosiewicz, and Kelli Hahn. Also in attendance was Adrienne Keeling, Code Enforcement Officer, and John Molitor, Counsel. The minutes of the August meeting were approved as submitted. Legal Counsel Report, John Molitor, report regarding Leeper Electric property at 131s and US 31 (Wingate Hotel). The appraisals are in and are higher than expected, between $1,300,000 and $1,400,000. The parties have requested a jury trial, now set by the Court for December 18, 2001. In the meantime, another Executive Session is anticipated with the City Council to discuss the matter and again approach INDOT and ask them to make a protective purchase of the property hopefully in advance of the jury trial so that it would be obviated. Department Announcements, Jon Dobosiewicz. A request has been received to table the following items to the October meeting: 3h and 2j Commitment Amendment for Indiana Developmental Training Center Maintenance Building. Marilyn Anderson announced a joint meeting between the Subdivision Committee and the US 31 Task Force on September 25 at 7:00 PM in the DOCS Conference Room, City Hall, to discuss the Illinois Street Amendments. H. Public Hearings: lh. Docket No. 97 -01 DP /ADLS; Hilton Garden Inn Petitioner seeks Development Plan and Architectural Design, Lighting, Landscaping Signage approval for a Hilton Garden Inn full service hotel. The petitioner proposes to construct a 63,500- square -foot hotel on 5± acres. The site is located at the southeast corner of U.S. 31 and Main Street (131 Street). The site is zoned B-2/Business and is within the US 31/Meridian Street Overlay Zone. Filed by James J. Nelson of Nelson Frankenberger for Meridian Hotel Partners, s:/PlanCommission\ Minutes\ PlanCommissionMinutes \pc2001sept 1 Carmel/Clay Plan Commission September 18, 2001 Jim Nelson, 12481 Medalist Parkway, Carmel appeared before the Commission representing Meridian Hotel Partners, Tim Dora, Bob Dora, and Bob Rynard. The Dora Brothers have teamed with Hilton Hotel Corp. to develop a full service hotel to be known as the Hilton Garden Inn on a 5 acre parcel of real estate within the Meridian corridor at the southeast corner of 131 Street and US 31, opposite Summer Trace Retirement Center. The Hilton Garden Inn will be four stories, 110 guest rooms, and additional amenities such as an indoor pool and health facility, garden patio, restaurant and bar, conference and meeting rooms. Hilton is the premiere hotel franchiser with over 2,000 hotels world -wide and whose name is synonymous with comfort, value and quality. The Architectural Design was reviewed first with the front elevation of the hotel facing Pennsylvania Street. It contains a portico in the front, a reception area and the hotel proper. The building materials consist of brick up to the first floor, EFIS both beige and trimmed in white, and three equal and matched gables, reproduced on the opposite side facing US 31. Another view of the hotel from Meridian and heading south on US 31 provides for a continuation of the same design and materials and again, the three matching gables. There is an outdoor garden and patio area that extends forward from the hotel proper and a lake that will exist between the hotel and US 31. On the north elevation, one of two wall signs is being proposed. The signs are 36 inches high, internally illuminated channel letters, white in color, identifying the name "Hilton Garden Inn." Another view from Meridian heading north shows the hotel proper, the garden area, the lake, and the second sign, located on the south facia of the building matching the one described on the north facia. The site plan shows the single entrance into the hotel from Pennsylvania Street, the parking area to the front, the portico, the reception area, and the lake. The landscaping plan shows plantings along the perimeter and within the parking area. Today, the site is void of meaningful vegetation and what is shown will be new landscaping. The second landscape drawing identifies landscaping located within the area nearest and adjacent to the building, basically foundational and flowering plant material. With respect to the lighting, this has been identified in the informational booklet and is the basic, shoebox -style fixture located within the parking area. Because of the location of this parcel, (within the Meridian Corridor and near the major intersection of 131s Street and US 31) it is important to confirm and represent to the Commission that the site plan, the orientation of the building, and the location of all improvements is consistent and compatible with the State's vision for future roadway improvements in the Corridor as well as that of the City of Carmel. There are roadway improvements planned for both Pennsylvania and the intersection of 131 and possible roadway improvements in the way of an exit ramp from US 31. This has been addressed in two ways. A commitment will provide for dedication of right -of -way to the City of Carmel for Pennsylvania Street and 131s Street, a sufficient portion that will provide for a 45 foot one -half s:/PlanCommission\ Minutes\ PlanCommissionMinutes \pc2001sept 2 Carmel/Clay Plan Commission September 18, 2001 right -of -way on Pennsylvania and a 60 foot one -half right -of -way on 131s Street. In regard to future roadway improvements as far as the State is concerned, the applicant has established an area along the north property line creating a substantial distance between the parking area of the hotel that would easily accommodate an exit ramp —that has been overlaid and shows in the drawings. By way of commitment, a no -build area will be created so that the right of the State will not be impaired or impeded to acquire the land at a future date for whatever improvements the State sees fit. A sample board of the building materials and colors was shown —this will also be available at Special Study Committee for further review. Members of the public were invited to speak in favor or opposition to the petition; no one appeared and the public hearing was closed. Department Report, Jon Dobosiewicz. No additional comments at this time. Comments from Commission Members: Madeline Fitzgerald asked if the proposed ramp and roundabout came into being, is there sufficient distance from the roundabout to the entrance to allow for good traffic flow? Also, Madeline asked if a fountain could be put in the pond to eliminate the formation of "scum" and algae. Ron Houck asked if the landscape plan had been reviewed by the City Forester; and a concern was expressed regarding the metal roofing on the portico. Ron suggested looking for alternatives to the metal roof. Marilyn Anderson said the drawings of the landscape plan were an improvement over the picture, but asked for clarification, and adequacy, specifically between the parking lot and 131s Street, at the committee level. Docket No. 97 -01 DP /ADLS, Hilton Garden Inn, was referred to the Special Study Committee for review on October 2nd at 7:00 PM in the Caucus Rooms of City Hall. 2h. Docket No. 99 -01 OA; Village of West Clay Text Amendments Modifications of Development Requirements The petitioner seeks approval to amend several provisions of their existing PUD Ordinance. The site is generally located at the southeast corner of West 131s Street and Towne Road. The site is zoned PUD/Planned Unit Development. Filed by Jose Kreutz of Brenwick TND Communities, LLC. George Sweet, 1100 West 131s Street, and Jose Kreutz, Brenwick Development, 12821 East New Market Street, Village of WestClay, appeared before the Commission representing the applicant. Also present was Keith Lash of Schneider Engineering. s:/PlanCommission\ Minutes\ PlanCommissionMinutes \pc2001sept 3 Carmel/Clay Plan Commission September 18, 2001 A video of the Village of WestClay was played for the Commission showing the initial concepts of the Village and the rationale for requesting certain Text Amendments and Modifications of Development Requirements. In early 1999, the PUD Ordinance was approved and infrastructure began in the Spring. In the Fall of 1999, the first building permit was issued and the Village was open to the public in July, 2000. George Sweet went over items being requested for modification. The modifications need to be in harmony with the purpose and intent of the Ordinance. The requested modifications would not have an adverse impact on the physical, visual, or spatial characteristics of the development. The modifications would not have an adverse impact on the streetscape and neighborhood, and would not result in the configuration of lots and street systems that would detract materially from the appearance of the development. The minimum lot size of any lot created would not be reduced below the requirements of the Ordinance. None of these modifications will have an adverse impact, and each one is consistent with the concept Slides were shown demonstrating the need for the modifications. The Ordinance calls for 850 square feet of garage space. Three car garages have become more appropriate and are larger than 850 square feet. Model Homes are contemplated for a time longer than the Ordinance Amendment for model homes recently passed. Owner occupied Units: It is contemplated that a mixed -use building, residential and commercial, could become condominium and the residential unit could be sold and occupied by an owner. The PUD Ordinance contemplates outdoor dining. Village of WestClay would like to ensure that ADA requirements are met. A 3 -foot sidewalk width must be maintained in the event of outdoor dining. Build -to lines are desirable rather than a minimum set -back line. Because of architectural concepts of each building, The Village would like to vary the build -to line. There are some ministerial functions as well. Asphalt will no longer come up to the curb line; instead, there will be concrete. The garage set -back line is another modification. The garage set- back is not the edge of the alley or measured from the edge of the alley, it is measured from the right -of -way line or the easement —no encroachments. A "close" is a U- shaped, median, cul -de -sac. We are asking that this be increased from 300 to 600 feet. Townhouses are connected in the back by a garage, and from the front, are townhouses. These represent a considerable diversity in price. The townhouse depth is requested for modification from 85 feet to 70 feet, allowing more of these to be constructed. Threshold elements would be those patios that come out under columns and the stairs going down would extend past the "build -to" line. We would like to permit this encroachment by modifying the Ordinance. The porch can invade the "build -to" line and so can the stairs, but this needs to be clarified as far as the Ordinance is concerned. s:/PlanCommission\ Minutes\ PlanCommissionMinutes \pc2001sept 4 Carmel/Clay Plan Commission September 18, 2001 One thing not talked about in the Ordinance that the Village would like to have happen is a "multi -story parking garage" that is hidden from the street. There has been interest from corporate headquarters for campus -type settings. It would enable the Village to put in a use that might be great for the area and the people that live there, but the modification would allow deck parking rather than spread out. Signage: Spaces were allowed in the architecture of the building for signage. The problem is that the spaces are bigger than the signs allowed. We would like sign modification to allow the sign to go into that particular area so that it is more readable than now seen. The signs could be 20% bigger. Fences and Walls: We are trying to tie all of the architecture together. There needs to be more consistency in the fencing between the primary and estate area. We are looking at fence heights. The Village Center blocks are some apartments, some are other kinds —we would like to call them all Village Center Blocks so that the Ordinance is consistent throughout, even if the uses change. A gasoline filling station was originally contemplated as well as a day care center. We have found that with the current market in the oil companies, a gasoline station is probably not a viable option. Also, a day care center would be much smaller than initially planned. Of the 17 modifications, 15 are ministerial. Townhouses have now been moved into the area originally planned for gasoline station and day care center. More space has been created to build on. There may be 3 commercial blocks and there would be gaps. We need to encourage three story buildings. The townhouse lots are the smallest, permitted primarily in the Village area. The reduction in lot sizes impacts the overall distribution of lots in the future; eventually there would be a density cap and we have the right to either make more park area or return to the Plan Commission for greater density. The modification requests smaller homes, completely detached, i.e. a 4500 foot lot to 4,000. It is anticipated that the proposed modifications will not affect the character of development. There is no new vision for the southeast corner of 131 Street and Towne Road. It may go to smaller lots than originally conceived, but it would still be in the spirit of the Village. We are answering to the market with the modifications requested in the Ordinance as written. Members of the public were invited to speak in favor or opposition to the petition; no one appeared and the public hearing was closed. Department Comments, Jon Dobosiewicz. No additional comments at this time. The applicant has addressed several areas requested. More detail is needed at the committee level. Comments and Questions from Commission Members: Paul Spranger asked about the commercial area of the development, and if there were any modification of design or requirements in the Ordinance that would provide sufficient relief to s:/PlanCommission\ Minutes\ PlanCommissionMinutes \pc2001sept 5 Carmel/Clay Plan Commission September 18, 2001 allow for small, fee simple, individually owned townhouses as opposed to rentals. George Sweet responded that specifically, they are adding owner /occupied townhomes. Townhomes are generally under the market of existing homes. There will be more affordable townhomes that will start at $185,000 without any options and range upwards to $250,000. Madeline Fitzgerald referred to Mr. Sweet's comments about a business park and whether or not there was any idea as to the size, number of stories and type of construction of parking garages. George Sweet responded that parking garages are hard to make "look good" except to cover it up and this would only be for two levels, unless it could be depressed. It would have to be screened. We did not think commercial would do anything for three years, but we have had significant interest in restaurants that are destination. There have also been numerous conversations with Atlas Market to come into the area. Paul Spranger suggested a market called "Hayday" in Greenwich, Connecticut. Marilyn Anderson commented that in light of the increase in the commercial area and destination restaurants, traffic to the area would substantially increase perhaps a new traffic study is now warranted. Docket No. 99 -01 OA, Village of West Clay Text Amendments/Modifications of Development Requirements, was referred to the Subdivision Committee on October 2, 2001 at 7:00 PM in the Caucus Rooms of City Hall. 3h. Docket No. 107 -01 CA (Commitment Amendment) Indiana Developmental Training Center Maintenance Building Petitioner seeks Commitment Amendment approval to modify a previously approved Development Plan and construct a Maintenance Building. The site is located at the southeast corner of East 111 Street and Pennsylvania Street. The site is zoned B- 5/Business. Filed by Roger Ward Engineering, Inc. for the Indiana Developmental Training Center. Note: This item paired with Item 2j under New Business. Tabled I. Old Business: 11. This Item Currently Tabled due to Pending Litigation: Docket No. 109 -99 DP /ADLS; Wingate Inn Development Plan and Architectural Design, Lighting, Landscaping Signage applications for Meridian Hotel Partners. The petitioner seeks approval to construct a 57,500- square -foot hotel on 4.066± acres. The site is located at 1460 West Main Street (northeast corner of East 131s Street and North Meridian Street). The site is zoned S -2 /residence within the U.S. 31 Overlay Zone. Filed by Philip A. Nicely of Bose McKinney Evans for Meridian Hotel Partners. 2i. Docket N. 69 -01 PP; Hayden Run Subdivision s:/PlanCommission\ Minutes\ PlanCommissionMinutes \pc2001sept 6 Carmel/Clay Plan Commission September 18, 2001 The applicant seeks approval to plat a seventy lot residential subdivision on 49.98± acres. The site is located on the south side of West 131s Street approximately one half mile west of Towne Road. The site is zoned S- 1/Residence. Filed by Dennis Olmstead of Stoeppelwerth Associates, Inc, for Centex Homes. Tom Kutz of Centex Homes, 6602 East 75 Street, Suite 100, Indianapolis, appeared before the Commission representing the applicant. Also in attendance was Dennis Olmstead of Stoeppelwerth Associates, and Tom Engle, attorney, with Barnes Thornburg. This item was reviewed by the Subdivision to address the thoroughfare plan of a collector street. The collector street is through the center of the project, winding through the development. Approval is being requested at this time. Department Report, Jon Dobosiewicz. This project was reviewed jointly with the County Highway Department and their visions and concerns were expressed about the area. The current version is consistent with the County's views as well as the Department's. There are some issues that we would like to keep the Plan Commission abreast of and will be up- dating accordingly as new plats come in. The Department is recommending the approval of the Primary Plat as presented. Committee Report, Ron Houck. The Subdivision Committee voted 3 in favor 2 opposed, (No Decision). The major concern was the collector road running through the center of the Subdivision. The meandering road was represented to be a "Lakeshore Drive" type of road. However, as areas to the north develop, the concern is the amount of traffic this road could ultimately bear or funnel through. Dave Cremeans was also concerned about the collector road that will be a heavily traveled street in the future. The purchasers of the lots should be made aware that this will be a collector road and a major street; not everyone buying a house here will realize that. Perhaps a median would help Ron Houck said the street will be 36 feet in width, but as development occurs to the north and south, it is logical to assume that the street will bear more traffic than just local subdivision. This street should perhaps be routed along the border or perimeter of the subdivision. It should be made clear to those persons purchasing lots adjacent to the street that this is not a typical, subdivision street, and this burden should be on the developer. Pat Rice commented that the street is not just a connector to connect to another subdivision, and she, too, would be concerned about the amount of traffic this street will carry. Paul Spranger said the curvilinear streets give character to the subdivision. If it did become a heavy -duty collector, it would require more right -of -way from curb -to -curb to a divided, two -lane parkway feel. Ron Houck said a lot of conversation at the Committee level centered on school generated traffic and the potential effect of school traffic and traffic from adjacent subdivisions on this road. s:/PlanCommission\ Minutes\ PlanCommissionMinutes \pc2001sept 7 Carmel/Clay Plan Commission September 18, 2001 Wayne Haney said the Committee had explored all of the concerns expressed this evening. Mr. Haney suggested a joint lot line between the Klineman property and the Centex Homes property; the Department then indicated that no one would build the street. Other locations for the road were suggested, all with negative connotations. The current proposal was a way of getting the street built and the thought was the traffic would not be that severe or undue speed. The Committee felt this was not the best solution, but an expedient solution. Nick Kestner said when the subdivision is developed to the south, every homeowner will be before the Commission complaining that there will be more traffic through the subdivision. Jon Dobosiewicz further commented that in initial discussion with the Hamilton County Highway regarding this area, they indicated that they are not in support of creating additional collectors in these areas. The County's identification of a collector is more substantial and significant in capacity than the Department envisions for this area. Traffic would not take the long way around to cut through a subdivision. The County would rather see narrower street widths through this area, load it on both sides with houses, and implement additional traffic calming devices. The County could produce opposing left turn lanes at 131 and narrow the street width to 30 feet. We don't have to call the road a collector or a thoroughfare —what is the function of the street? It is to take traffic from points in less than a one -half mile radius and provide a second option of getting out onto a major road (Towne Road, or 131s Street). The primary function of the street is to connect, and a second way out is needed. This is preferable to just dedicating right -of -way where the County has absolutely no intention of constructing the roadway and the City will not be in a position to extend services to the area when the homes are in place. It is not to push traffic through the subdivision, but rather to provide the people in the subdivision a way out to other arterials. Pat Rice suggested that a better designation for the road would be "connector" rather than collector. Docket No. 69 -01 PP, Hayden Run Subdivision, was returned to the Subdivision Committee for further review on October 2, 2001 at 7:00 PM in the Caucus Rooms of City Hall. Tom Kutz offered to incorporate the street in their covenants and restrictions and designate it as a collector or connector street so that when the homeowners purchase a house, they would recognize it as such from day one. The other visual fact is from the back of the curb to the face of the house is 52 feet —in other locations in the subdivision, from the back of the curb to the face of the house is 45 feet. The other fact is that with the amount of open space being provided, the amount of homes are limited fronting on this street. Items 3i. and 4i. For Hazel Dell Corner were heard together. 3i. Docket No. 82 -01 ADLS Hazel Dell Corner, Lot 4 Petitioner seeks Architectural Design, Lighting, Landscaping Signage for a s:/PlanCommission\ Minutes\ PlanCommissionMinutes \pc2001sept 8 Carmel/Clay Plan Commission September 18, 2001 multi- tenant, ground floor building. The site is located at 13190 Hazel Dell Parkway. The site is zoned B-3/Business. Filed by Paul G. Reis of The Reis Law Firm for Plum Creek Partners, LLC. 4i. Docket No. 80 -01 ADLS Hazel Dell Corner Center Identification Ground Signs Petitioner seeks Architectural Design, Lighting, Landscaping Signage for center identification ground signs. The site is located at the northwest corner of Hazel Dell Parkway and 131st Street. The site is zoned B-3/Business. Filed by Paul G. Reis of The Reis Law Firm for Plum Creek Partners, LLC. Paul Reis, attorney, 12358 Hancock Street, Carmel, appeared before the Commission representing the applicant. These items were before the Special Study Committee on September 4, 2001 and addressed various issues raised by the full Commission and those issues also raised by the Department staff. All issues were resolved. Tenant Signage on the sign panel: The petitioner has agreed that tenant signage will be reverse channel, individual letters, back -lit, with white sign faces. The letters will not exceed 30 inches in height. The concern was the proportion of the letters within the sign band, and consistency of signage within the development. The back -lit lighting, individual letters, is also consistent with the Osco Drug Store, already approved for this center. The Ground Center Identification Signs will incorporate the up- lighting, consistent with the residential neighborhood, and will identify the center as Hazel Dell Corner and will not have any tenant signage on it. Secondly, there will be side and rear shields on the three light fixtures on the west part of the parking lot, behind the building, adjacent to the residential area. The east elevation of the building was revised to avoid floor to ceiling glass. A band of brick has been added, and revised elevations were provided to the committee and approved by them. The connection of the pedestrian path from the residential subdivision to the west was looked at and this was moved away from the curb and pedestrian striping was added across the pavement so that it is clearly delineated as a pedestrian crossing. The committee approved the petitions, 4 -0, and approval is being requested at this time. Department comments, Jon Dobosiewicz. None at this time, other than Department Report as written. The Department is recommending that the Plan Commission approve both ADLS 80 -01 and 82 -01. Leo Dierckman confirmed the report given by Paul Reis and the Committee vote of 4 -0. Leo Dierckman moved for approval of Dockets 82 -01 ADLS, Hazel Dell Corner, Lot and Dolcket No. 80 -01 ADLS, Hazel Dell Corner Center Identification Ground Signs, seconded by Pat Rice. APPROVED 13 -0 5i. Docket No. 84 -01 ADLS Merchants' Pointe, Lot 4, Macaroni Grill s:/PlanCommission\ Minutes\ PlanCommissionMinutes \pc2001sept 9 Carmel/Clay Plan Commission September 18, 2001 Petitioner seeks Architectural Design, Lighting, Landscaping Signage for a Restaurant. The site is located at 2375 East 116 Street. The site is zoned B- 8/Business and is located partially within the SR 431/Keystone Avenue Overlay Zone. Filed by James J. Nelson of Nelson Frankenberger for Brinker Indiana, Inc. Jim Nelson of Nelson and Frankenberger appeared before the Commission representing the applicant. Also in attendance was Barbara Eden of Carson Designs. The ADLS application for Macaroni Grill was reviewed by the Special Study Committee on September 4, 2001. At that time, it was confirmed that the materials for the entry gate into the trash area would be corrugated, metal gate, painted light beige to match the light beige color on the building. This was the only outstanding issue and that has now been resolved. The committee voted unanimously in favor. Department Comment, Jon Dobosiewicz. The Department is recommending approval of the petition as amended. Leo Dierckman confirmed the vote of the Special Study Committee, 4 -0 for approval. Pat Rice moved for approval of Docket No. 84 -01, Merchants' Pointe, Lot 4, Macaroni Grill., seconded by Paul Spranger. APPROVED 13 -0. J. New Business: lj. Docket No. 98 -01 ADLS Woodland Shoppes Nextel Communications Petitioner seeks Architectural Design, Lighting, Landscaping Signage for a 95- foot monopole wireless telecommunications facility. The site is located northeast of East 116 Street and South Range Line Road. The site is zoned B -8 /business. Filed by Matt Mugavero of CIS Communications for Nextel West. Mark Price of Nextel Communications was in attendance representing the petitioner. A wireless cell site is being proposed for a 95 -foot tower and an 11'X23' fabricated, concrete shelter. The petitioner feels he has met all of the ADLS requirements. There is no signage other than an "RF Warning" sign on all sites of the proximity of the antennae. Another small sign would indicate site number for identification purposes for field technicians. There is no lighting for this facility, other than a motion sensor light on the door for trouble- shooting work by technicians at night. Department Comments, Jon Dobosiewicz suggested that if there are no concerns the Commission would like addressed by Committee, they might consider suspending the rules and voting this evening. Ron Houck had several questions: How does the proposed tower comply with the Cell Tower Ordinance; are there other opportunities for co- location on an existing tower; and is this area s:/PlanCommission\ Minutes \PlanCommissionMinutes \pc2001 sept 10 Carmel/Clay Plan Commission September 18, 2001 considered a suitable location for this tower. Jon Dobosiewicz responded that the Board of Zoning Appeals has reviewed those issues, and the Plan Commission's review this evening is whether or not the shelter, fence, and landscaping are appropriately designed pursuant to this location. The appropriateness of the location and the ability for the applicant to co- locate and how it conforms to the ordinance are issues already decided by the Board of Zoning Appeals and granting of the Use Approval. Nick Kestner said it was difficult to tell exactly where the tower is located. Would it be seen by any streets? Mark Price responded that a small portion of the tower could be seen, but it was almost all hidden by existing woods and tree area. To the north of the tower, a bare wall blocks the view. Nick Kestner wanted more landscaping so that in the event vegetation is removed from surrounding property, this tower will still be hidden. Pat Rice commented that this tower was pretty well scrutinized by the Board of Zoning Appeals and Ms. Rice moved for the suspension of the rules. This motion was seconded by Leo Dierckman. The vote was 9 in favor, 4 opposed (Nick Kestner, Paul Spranger, Dave Cremeans, Norma Meighen). The motion failed. Jon Dobosiewicz said there is no requirement that the applicant plant landscaping that would screen the tower. Mr. Kestner said landscaping would be for the building and fencing around the facility. Ron Houck suggested that the arborist look at this facility and give his approval. Jon Dobosiewicz commented that even if Woodland Shoppes was torn down, it would be replaced by another facility, probably something even more substantial, and the facility would not be visible. It was determined that the transmitter shack would be appropriately screened and the facility would not be visible. The adjacent properties are apartments and businesses. Paul Spranger then moved for suspension of the rules, seconded by Leo Dierckman. The motion was approved by a vote of 12 in favor one opposed (Nick Kestner.) Leo Dierckman then moved for approval of Docket No. 98 -01 ADLS, Woodland Shoppes, Nextel Communications, seconded by Dave Cremeans. The motion was APPROVED 12 in favor one opposed (Nick Kestner.) s:/PlanCommission\ Minutes \PlanCommissionMinutes \pc2001 sept 11 Carmel/Clay Plan Commission September 18, 2001 2j. Docket No. 108 -01 ADLS Indiana Developmental Training Center Maintenance Building Petitioner seeks Architectural Design, Lighting, Landscaping Signage approval for a Maintenance Building. The site is located at the southeast corner of East 111 Street and Pennsylvania Street. The site is zoned B-5/Business. Filed by Roger Ward Engineering, Inc. for the Indiana Developmental Training Center. Note: This item paired with Item 3h under Public Hearings. Tabled 3j. Docket No. 110 -01 ADLS Amend; Target Cart Corrals West Carmel Center Petitioner seeks Architectural Design, Lighting Signage approval of cart corrals for a previously approved retail store. The site is located at 10401 North Michigan Road. The site is zoned B -3 /business and is located within the US 421 Overlay Zone. Filed by Merlin Misialek of Target Corporation. Brian Chandler of Olympia Partners appeared before the Commission representing the applicant. The applicant is requesting approval of cart corrals for a previously approved Target Store located at 10401 North Michigan Road. The cart corrals will be constructed of material commonly known as "qwik brick" and is the same material as is on the building. The cart corrals will be consistent with the design of the building. The elevations show a coin or detail similar to the building made of concrete. The dimensions are approximately 4'X6'. Eight corrals are proposed for construction. The store is scheduled for opening on October 9 and approval is requested as soon as possible. Department Comments, Jon Dobosiewicz: No Comment. Paul Spranger moved for the suspension of the rules, seconded by Ron Houck. The motion was approve 13 -0. Paul Spranger moved for the approval of Docket No. 110 -01 ADLS Amend, Target Cart Corrals West Carmel Center, seconded by seconded by Ron Houck. APPROVED 13 -0. K. Adjournment at 9:30 PM Ramona Hancock, Secretary Marilyn Anderson, President s:/PlanCommission\ Minutes \PlanCommissionMinutes \pc2001 sept 12