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' L'r. �Je.•iy Riggin;, 2f3 Ian�tiu'�rn Ln.,,:igr�ed �vith !Sr. Sander:; and que:rtinucd �
_ '� •• . 'the, :Sevelcprucnt oP :;�.lcll loQr:. � .. . �
' "•.. Ren��hl.=s, pirl�,;ity��.ov:nex acr:o:;:; fl•onr Lhis lutp er.1ire��sed opposition .
• �o Lhe vaii�_nce.' . �� �
' S`itc �Pulilic Hexrin,v, closed :�t yi08. ' �
s.., �_ReC n celaCed Lhat :}ic uas iiiterc;L�d i�ii Eabl:ing this�.petition fo.• an
. . �n :,ite inspectiion. -
i:r. Jim .^;�aith moveA to table �thi3- iYem in order for�the Board� memk�ers to �
_i.iake. an on aite im;pection. Seconded Uy hir-. Regnn: '
. Tfie niricion Co �c.iU7e .r.;irt3ed unv`iimou,ly:, . �
� 6a. �f7i1�$ P.IA., �uulic ![c:z:�np ��n Dar,ket Ho. �DA �26-�9, Varianee Applic.il,ion
. ::iar �,i.;:inr; lu� ;u�rci TuLr �ii'i�e �syansion l.ocated' �.10 l�t �tirect �
S."r.. in !i"j zoninC• � . - ..
Filed by Doug Church for R;i].ph Ci�aprnnn.
��Lir. ➢sn Chapman v:ae present• . � � '
h;r. Chuich �¢ade the preeentation. Location �r.±; �iven. Tlie reqne�t i.; ;;o
� pm•niit.�hc nccuP�ncy of. tl�e existing one ucory hrm,;e for e:�p:�nded offices �io
Uc �used, in connec�iion�riith .the. existing office uee uf,��Clieiliman �Ren11;y. I�C .
vill also allovr for'�additional parkin�. 'There ��iill`tie no �addiCionssl sqiu�:c
footaP,o- to Che�existiing home and subject only to remodeling. Co phy3ically
cuhance ��the structure� and �to internally arrange £or office use. �
i�he Puhlic 1{earing� ope�ted at 9�18. ' �
� btr. Kcn Ti.ckle, ir.:metli,xte].y to the south, asked. to. �ee the plan.
tu. Ol',u' h ^ai_il 'll � �ri7.1 1.� ii> ,i.�;� idnn�Ci.ip.i�� :Chi� ndi:up.vwy :;��d
'ch�xc vdll� lic a Luf'i i .it iha L.�vk linc. '
�'r.. IP;y��e �filcon, �op'.•e:;�ntin�; the L'n17'it� auA Rhe Fn;;ters, caitl that
� IU1J;en �i�r chio �bL� k f�,a a pt.�y�;-;uund ancl thi.^>.�:ajcr.C..r�i.11 wa.kc it '
� livi.doiis fox iltc ch..1J.�n. -
L;<c. C�.u�ine ➢cach. ix�cneriy uwnor �o �Chu norl:h� �:,rpressed oppociii.nn �
�o bu::inc:;e; uue in ir.::i.dcritial ar.:;:z.
�'r. 1ic�nn u;;p7aiirc;�1 C7,at thc Ynriuncu i;: Tor �m���7inrary ].and usc fci '
Lhi:� r.mie� only.. " . . .
!Qr. Fr.us].cr,� WJi. corner- acro:s the strcet,�exqressed opposition tu �
. � �Liu proJ�c'C. �
•. LiLLi;u�� 'i'inkl.n, ncz8 uoor, caid Cheir priv[yr,y c;oultl bc di:atni�•:d �
� a�ol";inr-ia �,�nul.� lic i���crcased 4.di�ic. . -
'C;�c ;'ui�.L;.c ll;::,iin�;• �u].eced �;it 9�73• � �
I:n•. foik ,,vve. Che�hiatory uf She rezonin� oF �Range. Line'Rd. re).xtS.n, �
tih,rt a buiicr sCrip ria¢ ectablished from business to x•eaidenti.al slioi;�� ;;� .�
nn ,i1.7,,:y or u�ti.li4y sii•ip and that.the finatd hay tried- to resCrir,t bn:�;:i.�;;:�
:o ,[L1oLca :arc:,s. - . . .
!.1r. dmv;mi moved ti�,at BA 26-y9 Ue�. apprwed. .Seconded by Lir. di.m :'v,ii.<:h.
� . 49ie voco rras 1 r^oi•, 4 Against (61r. R,>>,in voting Fur). hiu'Ciun �iuft:sicd.
. 7:s. 9�00 P.M., Punl.ic }{�;�i-inh on Ddcket tlo. BA..2']�'.79� '1'ariance f,ppli,;,ii.cn .
for Plendy's �.i.�ns located 'G3y0 E. ll.6ih Strret �in� B-4 zonin�.
' Filed Uy !9. 'J:. F:ineficr� for Wcudy'u In�im'iiati.on;il.
� . Fineb � . .. d.o 7�� , �c :�:n�ilion. ':hc pinns � �•.c shocrn. ftr. h'iu �
::a. d th.re 1ic 2 f.or �� no.�ih aud •„uch. Yic2ures �f tiie signs rere ho�:n.
'i�n�:j arc,:srtinF;�f6r 4 i,;.i;ns.,.,. '
i'hc $uUlic i;esri:�n r.pciied u.0 9:4��:� IJU 1'oLionsirators vrere pre:;erct and '
::; c Publ.ic i!r:xi'ini; �:li;sad,at 9�.�0.
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� x )o�k 1 }.ed if �2 eit �s couldn't be .,een fran just about�.an}�:hcre.
• ",�- • lineb,�rg :;;ucl Lhc cast side is the mo�t iuq>ar.tant loc:;tion for n :;i.;;;;,
Uine�ac�inn �So17.�:'+:ad�. �
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, c4.'.Y.1) Ui: .. ';1:P:C ,11�';�iirif,fi - I�+,pY 79. 1�i7`7 Fn�c 4 - �'
iGr. iC�ve Cr:tbilD, P1��ndy's 'e:�l 1'statie ligr., and Yince Pav:;ern, Projcct
� ' 'rrurc pre�cr�t. • �
V !'� . Pinc6c.g cxid tiLey will w;e the ::nu'Ch a�iii oaut ::ide :;i�ns only ur.d
!;o',r,i'Eh�t!ic diaci�itinn:tl :;i_;'nu un Lhe norCh. , .
Lr. RISp m r�,ved in.�1 �I3A Y7-79 bc :�}�pi i�.il C�iv �i y'- '�z ;7.0' frmrt :;i.t�i �
ft�in�, eouCh, a„y'' x JG' e.ir;n f rin/,- u;iut .5nd. on Lhc ntir.cli aid� 2 "4. ❑dy•,;
, in ind �"P uidy'c-out xpprox. )/ x 2�V' (standard direc4ia�a1 „ignc) , liie
.Y�nc are, 7 t�irted-., ^ecnnded by Lir. .7im •^:inith. " �
� . '(fhc votc. �:es unnni�iicu:; for aj�p.�ivcil. . . . .
,N'.. (ll.�i fiy.�i:P2�uY -
. ]�U. Aq1rd 'to cmt:;�.dce �Docket tlo. SiA 19=/9, �'d:irl.ance Gpp]ir,nCi'on for�wlill �
and diieriory sitgis Tor Pidc].i�Cy .Eaiik Oi�fi.cc BJ.r1U. 3oca�ted 1155� ��•
� ide�.idian. Stircet in� HC-1 ;::oning. 'P8i; it"�:m o-ras �tabled.�it� Che� Hoa'rd's
' � �requcs�t°at 'c1ic��A�ii�il .rneetiing:. . ' . ,
I'iled by Duug Church. ' . ' �
. �tir,.� Church ��made �the pre;entaCion chowing the plane. � The p-iesent grpw-�d
eiig;i, is°�Co'UC;re4ained. : � � ' . • "
'Yhere ie to.bc a�.�;-ound si.�n, a sign acrocs.tho norCh .se.ies of elev�aCinn;
(lideliLy ign), and 'a �siqn on,ine couth elevatiion� facing�•the interioc g�.l:-
' in����4ot (ncan�47ititier). The �Dean.Wittcr sign coni'ox�ns to� sl�,n aizc requirc-
�menta. . . . . . . - . . . -
:tir. Church.'made the �;irn size co:�„pari�on presentation as �requaatod.
�:M1ip. Jim ^idSVh.ir.oved� i�li:ik 13A.19-')9 be apnruvcd Sor,�3 :;.i.G��3 1y.P•c�enicd.
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. 'itiu vote �:aa unani.r�:ui�a for aPPio.��.l. . '
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t� ' �CA�MEL PLAN •COMMISSION MINUTES' - JANUARY 15. 1985
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The regular meeting of the Carmel Plan Commission was called to order by
� the President, Bill Merrill, at �: 3� P.M. January 75, 1985 at the City Meet-
ing Hall. The meeting opened with the pledge of allegiance.
Mr. John Hensel,, Clay Township Trustee; was preserit to swear in for re-
appointment to the Commission , Henrietta Lamb, Max Moore and Richard Albright
for two year terms to expire December 31, 1986,.
- Mayor Jane: Reiman was present to swear in City Council members to the
Commission, Minnie Doane and Sue McMullen for one year terms to end December
31 , 1985, Yaughn Story, City Co�cil Appt. , for a one year term to end Dec-
ember 31 , 1985 and Mayor� s appt. , James T. O�Neal , Sr. , for a f'our year term
to expire December 31 , 1988.
Mayor Reiman presented the Key to the City to all Plan Commission members.
Roll was called and all members were present as follows: Bill Merrill ,
Minnie Doane , Zla Badger, Bob Boone, Jim Schneider, Vaughn Story, Henrietta
Lamb, Jeff Davis, Max Moore , Sandra Long, Richard Albright, Sue McMullen, and
Jim 0'Neal, Sr.
Staff inembers present were Chuck Kiphart, David Rickard, Steve Andrews ,
and Rosalind McCart.
Election of officers for 1985 followed.
Mrs. Badger nominated Bill Merrill for President.
. Seconded by Sue MeMullen.
Mrs. Badger moved nominations be closed.
Seconded by Mrs. Lamb.
Motion carried and Mr, Merrill was reelected president.
Mrs. Badger nominated Richard Albright for Vice President.
Seconded by Dr. Long.
Mr. Story moved the nominations be closed an�3 that a unanimous ballot be
cast.
Seconded by Mrs . Badger and Mr. Albright was reelected Vice President.
Mr. Boone moved that Rosalind McCart continue as Secretary,
Seconded by Mrs. Badger. ,
Mr. Story moved that a unanimous ballot be cast.
Seconded by Mr. Boone and Mrs. McCart was reappointed Secretary.
There were no additions or corrections to the minutes of the December 18 ,
1984 meeting and Mrs. Badger moved that they be approved as submitted.
Seconded by Dr. Long.
Motion carried.
I. Public Hearin�s
li. 7 : 30 P.M. , Publ'ic Hearing on Docket No. 1-85 P. P. , A Primary Plat
Application for' Evergreen Subdivision, a Cluster Housing project in
the 431 Overlay 'Lone , consisting of 54. lots on 16.122 acres located
at the S.E. corner of Keystone Ave. and Carmel Drive in Carmel , IN.
This parcel is currently zoned R-1. A rezone application to change
the zoning from R-1 to R-3 is currently being considered by the
Carmel Plan Commission. '
Filed by Jim Nelson for the Estridge Group.
The public hearing opened at 7 ; 53 with Mr. Nelson making the presentation.
Paul Estridge , Sr. and J,r. , Paul Rio , Gary MclVutt and Chris White were
present.
Mr. Nelson said they request that a vote on the Rezone Application , item
lj under Old Business , be tabled until the Development Plan and Plats have
been reviewed.
The development plan under the Cluster Option was shown. They are also
seeking architectural design , lighting and signage approval for the project.
A rendering showing the subdivision entrance way onto Carmel Dr, with the
requested signage was presemted.
Z'he site plan under the Cluster Option was shown and landscaping and
moundings explained.
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�' Renderings showing appearance were exhibited- brick fronts , masorrite
siding and traditional styling. ��
Mr. Nelson spoke of Subdivision Variances requested: 1) Reduction in
street right-of-way from 50 ft. to 40 £t. , 2) Reduction in cul-de-sac right-
of-way from 100 ft. to 90 ft. , 3) Elimination of sidewalks on part of west
side of Le Parc Dr. , 4) Elimination of rear yard for lots 24 through 31 ,
5) Reduotion of easement width for storm sewer (two places) from 20 ft. to
12 ft. , and 6) Elimination of 20 ft. landscape buffer on tivest side of lot 31
Mr. Lee Bangs, 6 Sue Springs Ct. , an adjacent property owner, questioned
the secondary plat item on the agenda and the retentiom areas.
Mr. Nelson responded stating that the retention areas will be wet
retention areas (ponds) .
The public hearing closed at 8 : 10 .
There will be only one sign , as shown on the rendering, with individual
letters and back lighting.
Each unit will have its own yard light.
There will be dedicated public streets, 30 ft . wide with rolled curbs .
Mr. Nelson indicated that they would be seeking a Variance from the Board
of Zoning Appeals for a reduction from the 120 ft. building setback require-
ment for the Keystone Avenue Overlay Zone to 60 ft.
This item ivas sent to the Subdivision Committee for review on February 5 ,
1985 at 7 : 30 P.M. at the City Meeting Hall and to the Technical Advisory Com-
mittee for Thursday, January 1� , 1985 at 9: 00 A.M.
The Re2one Application will be on the Land Use Committee agenda for the
February 5 committee meetings ,
Item lj , Rezone Application is tabled until the February Plan Commission
meeting, as requested, and item 3k, Secondary Plat Application , was referred
to the Subdivision Committee for review on February 5 .
J. Old Business
lj . Commission to consider pocket No. 60-84 Z , A Rezone Application re=
questing a rezone from an e:�isting R-1 Residentiat District to a
R-3 Residential District . The site is located at the S.E, corner. of
Carmel Drive and Keystone Ave . and consists of 16.122 acres of land
in Carmel, Indiana.
Filed by Paul Estridge , Jr. for the �Stridge Group, Inc .
This item has been tabled until the Pebruary Plan Commission meeting and
will be on the Land Use Committee agenda for the February 5 , 198$ Committee
meetings.
2j . Commission to consider pocket No. 61-84 Z , A Rezone Application re-
questing a rezone from an existing M-3 Manufacturing District to a
B-5 Business District . The site is located on the east side of U. S.
421 (MicHigan Rd. ) approximately 800 ft. south of 'doodhaven Drive,
Said site is 11.194 acres in size and located within C1ay, Township,
Hamilton County. .
Filed by Dave Coots for Switches , Inc.
Mr. Coots was present.
Mrs. McMullen gave the Land Use Committee report (which is a part of the
official minutes and attached to the master copy) . The committee recommend-
ed approval and Mrs. McMullen so inoved.
Seconded by Mrs. Badger.
Motion carried 11 For, 1 Against (Mrs. Lamb) and 1 abstaining (D9r. O �Neal) .
3J • Commission to consider pocket No. 62-84 P. P„ A Primary Plat Appli-
edtsouth�ofF136th St�. �1320nftStwest�of3Gray RoadSinnCarmel�tIndiana.
'Loning is R-1. This site is currently lmown as Sections 6 & 7 of
Foster Grove Subdivision.
Filed by Quadrant Development Corp. (Tom Schutz )
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. Mr,. ;D.ennis Croan of Schneider Engineering was'present.
_ Mr. Albright gave the Subdivision Committee report (which is a part of
the official minutes and attached to the master copy) , The committee recom-
mended approval and Mr. Albright so moved.
Seconded by Mr,s. Lamb.
Sections 1 and 3 are to be approved this evening.
Clarification of these requests and their locations were given and shown
� on the plat by Mr. Croan.
Moti'on carried.
4j . Commission to consi:der pocket No. 63-84 s.P. , A Secondary Plat for
Foster Manor, Section 1 , consisting of 28 lots on 20.091 acres located
south .of 136th St. approximately 1320 ft. west o£ Gray Rd, in Carmel ,
Indiana. This site is currently lmown as Foster Grove Subdivision.
Zoning' is R-1. �
Filed by Quadrant Development Corp. (Tom Schutz)
Mr. Dennis Croan of Schneider �ngineering was present.
Mr. Albright gave the Subdivision Committee report (which is a part of
the official minutes and attached to the master copy) The committee recom-
mended approval subject to: separation o£ drainage and utility easements,
plantings along 136th St. , show sidewalks on plans , and show easements on
� cross-sections of drainage easements.
Mr. Albright so moved.
Seconded by Dr. Long.
Mr. Croan stated that a sidewalk along 136th St. on the south side will
� be provided.
Motion carried.
5J • Commission to consider pocket No . 64-84 S,P. , A Secondary Plat for
� Hunters .Creek Village Subdivision, Section 4, consisting ot' 39 lots on
1'] 856 acres located east of Oak Ridge Rd. between 136th St. and
146th St. Zoning is R-1.
Filed by Quadrant Development Corp. (Tom Schutz)
Mr. Dennis Croan of Schneider Engineering was present.
Mr. Albright •gave the Subdivision Commit'tee report (which is a part of
the official minutes and attached to the master copy) . The committee recom-
mended approval subject to recommendations by the Technical Advisory Committe�
as follows: Sewers and waters to be provided by Hamilton Western Utilities ,
letter on file indicating approval of hydrant locations by fire chief, swale
between Sections 2 and 4 to have pervious invert, all open drains are to be
part of county regulated drainage system and will have access to all lots so
subdrains can carry away water from sump pumps. and. heat pumps , and must be
separation of drainage and utility ea:,ements to be approved by the county
surveyor.
Mr. AlbrigHt moved approval subject to the petitioner meeting the TAC
recommendations.
Seconded by Mrs. Lamb.
The plat was shown,
blotion carried.
K. New Business
lk. Commission to consider pocket No. 0-84 D.P. , A Sign Package for the
Penn Mark Office Bldg. Complex located at the S,E. corner of Penn-
sylvania St. and U.S. 31 (Meridian St. ) , Carmel , IN. Complex is
located in a B-6 Zoned D'istrict and within the U. S. 31 Corridor Over-
lay Zone.
Filed by Rick Rembusch for R,V. `�e1ch Inc.
Mr. Rembusch was present.
The site plan was shown and the signage requested pointed out.
Mrs . Badger gave the Industrial and Commercial report (which is a part of
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ttie official minutes and attached to the master copy) . The committee •recom-
mended approval and Mrs. Badger so moved.
Seconded by Mr. Boone. '
Motion carried.
2k. Commission to consider pocket No. 6�-84 A.D.L, S. , Sun room addition
(10 ft, x 30 ft. ) exterior architectural changes and sign• changes
for existing �Vendys Inc . Building located at 2370 E. 116th St. ,
Carmel , Indiana in a B-8 Zoned District .
Filed by David Kenny for `��endys Inc.
Mr. Kenny was present.
Mrs. Badger gave the Industrial and Commercial Committee re ort (which is
a part of the official minutes and attached to the master copy�. The com-
mittee recommended approval and Mrs . Badger so moved.
Mrs. Badger stated that all has been complied with.
Seconded by Mrs. McMullen.
Motion carried.
3k. Commission to consider pocket No . 2-85 S, P. , A Secondary Plat Appli-
cation for Evergreen Subdivision, a Cluster Housing Project, consist-
ing of 64 lots on 16. 122 acres located at the S.E, corner of Kejrstone
Ave . and Carmel Dr. in Carmel , IN. This parcel is currently zoned R-1 :
A rezone application to chanoe the zoning from R-1 to R-3 is currently
being considered by the Carmel Plan Commission.
Filed by Jim Nelson for the I:stridge Group.
This item was referred to the Subdivision Committee' for review on Feb-
ruary 5 . 1985 at the City Meeting Hall.
Dr. Lon� questioned the legality of' signs on regular trash cans:
In respomse , Mr. Kiphart stated that there are to be no signs on trash cans
Omitted from the Foster Manor, Section 1 , petition was their sign request
The sign plan was shown and Mr. Croan related that it wi1T be the same
sign as for Foster Manor, Section 2.
_ Miss Doane moved to suspend the rules and act on this item this evening.
Seconded by Dr.. Long.
Mr. Albright moved to approve the sio for Foster ]nanor, Section 1 .
Seconded by Miss Doane . •
Motion carried.
Mr. Coots was present requesting that a sign change for their leased
property at 205 E. Carmel Dr. be heard this evening.
The site plan was shown for the sign in question.
They wish to make a change from individual letters on the building . to a
ground sign for tenants who have leased space there .
A rendering of the sign was shown to Commission members .
Mr. Coots related that this is not signage for the total building. '
Mrs. Badger requested that this item be sent to Committee for review and
that the standard procedure be followed.
Mr. Kiphart requested that a total si� package be approved at the Com-
mittee meeting.
Mr. Albrigrit moved to suspend the rules and consider this request this
evening.
Seconded by Mr. Boone .
Motion carried 9 For, 4 Against.
Mr. .ATbright moved to approve the sign subject to the Industrial and Com-
mercial Committee' s review and approval of the overall sign package.
Seconded by Mr. Boone .
The motion carried with P�lr. �chneider voting N0 .
This item will go to the Industrial and Commercial Committee for review
on February 5 , 1985 at the City Meeting Hall.
Mr• Kiphart introduced David Rickard who is a new staff inember in the
Dept. of Community Development.
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- ' Mr, Albright announced that the next Comprehensive Plan Committee meet-
: ing will be January 29 , 1985 at �; 3� ?.M. at the Clty Meeting Hall.
There being no further business to come before the Commission, the
meeting adjourned.
President Secretary