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CARMEL/CLAY PLAN COMMISSION CARMEL/CLAY
APRIL 18, 1995 PLAN COMMISSION/BZA
UNOFFICIAL MINUTES
The meeting was called to order at approximately 7.00 PM by the President with the Pledge
of Allegiance in Council Chambers, One Civic Square, Cannel, Indiana.
Members present were as follows: David Cremeans; Jay Dorman; Judy Hagan; Ron Houck;
Dick Klar; Alan Klineman; Barbara Myers; Salim Najjar; James T. O'Neal; Jeanne Reid; Luci
Snyder; Paul Spranger; and H. K. (Tom) Thompson.
A quorum was declared.
Members of the Department of Community Development Management Team present were:
Mike Hollibaugh; Terry Jones; and Mark Monroe. City Attorney Gordon Byers was also
present.
Dick Klar moved for approval of the minutes of the previous meeting, seconded by Salim
Najjar; MOTION APPROVED.
G. FILING FEES
Terry Jones reported on the review of the Special Study Committee. At the recommendation
of the City Council, the Filing Fees are being reviewed with the possibility of an increase.
The last increase in fees was in 1989. The recommendation of the Special Study Committee
was to bung the filing fees before the full Plan Commission for a Public Hearing. for a final
determination.
Tom Thompson, Chairman of the Special Study Committee, reported that the fees, as
proposed, will produce enough revenue to "pay their way" for the next five to seven years.
and that the proposed fees are consistent with other communities in the area.
Gordon Byers stated that he would prepare proper Nonce in Ordinance form for Public
Heanng at the May meeting.
2020 VISION PLAN UP-DATE
Mike Hollibaugh exhibited the most current newsletter for the 2020 Vision and stated that the
newsletters are being mailed out to all Carmel/.Clay residents by UN Pnntmg. There will be
a morning management up-date meeting on Tuesday, April 25th at 7.30 AM until 9:00 AM..
All are invited to attend.
IL PUBLIC,HEARINGS
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lh Commission to consider Docket No. 11-95 DP/ADLS, a Development Plan and
Architectural Design, Lighting, Landscaping and Signage approval application for
Altum Gardens. The site is located at 11355 North Michigan Road, Clay Township.
The petitioner is requesting approval to construct a 16,800 square foot retail gardening
and landscaping facility. Site is zoned B-3 and is located within the US 421 Overlay
Zone. Additionally, the petitioner will be appearing before the Carmel/Clay Board of
Zoning Appeals for Special Use approval.
Filed by William E. Wendling for Altum Gardens.
William E. Wendling, Jr., Campbell, Kyle & Proffitt, 650 East Carmel Dnve, Carmel,
appeared before the Commission representing the applicant, Altum Gardens. Bob and Sue
Altum were in attendance as well as Gary Warren, business manager, and Dave Huffman and
Jay Gibson of SiteTech Engineers.
The property is located at 11355 North Michigan Road, just to the north of 106th Street and
Michigan Road which is on the western-most boundary of Clay Township. The subject site
consists of 23 acres and is bounded on the west by Michigan Road, on the north by the
Woodhaven Subdivision, to the east by property owned by Fred Fehsenfeld; and to the south,
property that is in the 421 Overlay Zone.
The proposed site is requested to be developed into a retail supply shop and a landscape
matenal storage facility for Altum Gardens. At present, Altum Gardens occupies two areas:
Administrative offices on Towne Road; and the garden/landscape facility located on 421, (the
ground is currently owned by Mayflower.) It is the desire of the petitioner to operate under a
one roof facility.
The petitioner has agreed to limit use of the property to the following, specific uses: artificial
lake or pond; commercial greenhouse; craft and hobby shop related to outdoor accessones,
landscaping or plant matenals both real and artificial; garden shop; porch and patio and
outdoor furniture store, sales and storage of landscaping and building materials both enclosed
and unenclosed; plant nursery; wholesale/retail sales of goods and services commonly
associated with garden shop/nursery/landscaping uses; general offices; flower shop; landscape
contracting; and coffee food services limited use by the patrons of the primary use as a
garden center. All other land uses listed in the B-3 Classification would be prohibited. In
1988 or 1989, the Plan Commission unanimously recommended approval of the B-3 Zoning
classification, and this was subsequently approved by the City Council.
The neighbors to the north are being buffered by a retention pond and landscaping; the
business operations are mainly to the south. The material/planting storage has been contained
in the area to the southern portion of the site.
The petitioner will be appearing before the Board of Zoning Appeals April 24, 2995, to
request a Special Use Permit. The issues of dust control and the layout of the dnve will be
addressed prior to the Board of Zoning Appeals meeting. There are two retention ponds;
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drainage will flow to the west towards the retention ponds, across 421 and then north to the
creek that abuts the Boone County side of 421. Indianapolis Water will be used for the
Administrative Offices and garden supply center; the retention ponds will be used for the
imgation of plantings (drip system).
The business is seasonal and will be run primanly in the spring, summer and early fall;
however it will be open 12 months per year. The operation will be primarily dawn to dusk,
and therefore will not require lighting, except for secunty purposes. Landscaping around the
penmeter of the building will change with the seasons. A small island at the entry will
break traffic entering and departing. The signage will be simple and will conform to the
ordinance.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor or opposition to the proposed project,
the following appeared:
Bnan Schapiro, 4610 Woodhaven Dnve, asked about the ground opposite the proposed site
which is in Boone County, and expressed concerned that the roads would not align, and asked
for cooperation between Boone and Hamilton County for a smooth, cohesive project.
The public hearing was then closed.
Jeanne Reid expressed concern as to whether or not the Fehsenfelds were aware of the
proposed development. Mr. Wendling responded in the affirmative.
Bob Altum, 10311 Towne Road, Carmel, reported that the Fehsenfeld lake (10 acres) is being
landscaped per Fred Fehsenfeld's request.
Jay Dorman asked about gas pumps on the southern part of the property, the outdoor cafe, the
septic mound, and the height of the mounds on the penmeter of the property. Mr. Wendling
responded that the gas pumps were to take care of the work equipment, 150 gallons. The
outdoor cafe is basically an amenity for the patrons.
David Huffman, SiteTech Engineering, reported that the septic mound will probably be 2 1/2
to 3 feet above ground, and the mounding on the outside of the property is 4 1/2 to 5 feet,
higher than the septic mounds.
For informational purposes, Judy Hagan mentioned that Michigan Road will eventually be a 6
lane highway by the year 2020.
Salim Najjar asked if the drawings were done by a certified, licensed engineer/architect. Mr.
Huffman responded that the drawings were prepared by licensed engineers; but not licensed
architects.
Ron Houck asked about the parking requirements and whether or not the retail space was
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factored in. Terry Jones of the Department responded that there was no specific parking
formula for this type of use in the Ordinance. A part of the Special Use Approval before the
Board of Zoning Appeals necessitates the review of the parking. There is additional space
available for parking if that is the ruling of the Board of Zoning Appeals.
Ron Houck asked about outstanding items brought up at Technical Advisory Committee; all
outstanding issues have been resolved. The petitioner has signed an agreement for non-
opposition to annexation. The commitment for sidewalks has also been reduced to writing.
Jeanne Reid expressed concern regarding the materials being used for the walls, and asked
that samples of the matenals be brought to Sub-Committee; the petitioner responded in the
affirmative.
Mr. Wendling undertook to clanfy the issue of the drawings, i.e. whether or not they were
prepared by a registered architect. This was to be done by Committee meeting date of May
2, 1995.
Docket No. 11-95 DP/ADLS was referred to Special Study Committee which will meet May
2, 1995 at 7:00 PM.
2h. Commission to consider Docket No. 13-95 OA, an Ordinance Amendment to the
Carmel/Clay Zoning Ordinance Z-289, specifically section 5.3 Accessory Buildings
and Uses.
Filed by the Department of Community Development.
Terry Jones of the Department explained the proposed amendment to 5.3 of the Accessory
Use Section of the Zoning Ordinance; this has to do with a number of vanance requests in the
past few years through the Board of Zoning Appeals for variances of back yards for
swimming pools and accessory use. The proposed Amendment has been through the Special
Study Committee.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor of opposition of the proposed Docket;
none appeared.
Gordon Byers stated that the Department has complied with the Notice requirement and are
prepared to forward it in Ordinance fashion to amend the text of the Zone Ordinance. Mr.
Byers also stated that he had reviewed the existing ordinance and the proposed additions and
deletions, and they are acceptable and in compliance with the required Statutes.
Alan Klineman questioned the wording of 5 3.2; Terry Jones responded that the wording
should be "minimum side or rear setback, whichever is less."
There was further discussion by Commission members and explanation by Terry Jones.
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Judy Hagan expressed concern with the resulting streetscape. Ms. Hagan commented that the
75 foot setback was probably a product of the 1980's and that there was probably a reason for
keeping swimming pools and mini barns off main thoroughfares. Judy Hagan recommended
achieving the desired result by working through the Thoroughfare Plan.
Docket No. 13-95 was returned to the Special Study Committee which will meet May 2nd.
NOTE: Jim O'Neal exited the meeting at this point and did not return.
3h. Commission to consider Docket No. 14-95 P.P., a Primary Plat application for a
subdivision named Lassiter Place. The pnmary plat consists of 1 lot on 4.45 acres of
land located east of Rohrer Road and approximately one half mile south of 146th
Street. Site is zoned R-1. The petitioner has filed for the following Subdivision
Regulations Variances:
- Section 8.9 - Installation of sidewalks
Petitioner has also filed the secondary plat, Docket No. 15-95 SP and is seeking
simultaneous approval.
Filed by Calvin Lassiter.
Calvin Lassiter, 1101 Rohrer Road, Carmel, appeared before the Committee and introduced
his son-in-law, Don Metzler, 1201 Rohrer Road, and Maureen O'Hara with Benchmark
Surveying to present this Docket.
Mr. Lassiter originally owned a parcel of 9 acres; in 1990, a portion in the northwest corner
was transferred to his daughter and son-in-law, Mr. Metzler. Mr. Lassiter is currently
proposing to transfer an acre in the southwest corner to his granddaughter. There is an
existing house on lot one which is occupied by Mr Lassiter. Mr. Lassiter is requesting a
variance from Section 8.9, Installation of Sidewalks.
Mr. Lassiter is also seeking simultaneous approval of the secondary plat, filed as Docket No.
15-95 SP.
Don Metzler stated that there are sidewalks on the east side of Rohrer Road at Hunters Run
and Meridian Plaza. There are only five homes existing between 136th and 146th and there
are no sidewalks at all; hence the variance is being requested.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor or opposition to the proposed project;
none appeared and the public hearing was closed.
Paul Spranger moved for approval of the variance, seconded by Dave Cremeans.
Procedurally, the motion should have been for suspension of the rules and Paul Spranger so
amended his motion for suspension of the rules; Dave Cremeans amended his second. The
vote for suspension was 11 in favor, Ron Houck opposed, MOTION APPROVED.
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Judy Hagan asked about installation of sidewalks at some future date in front of lot 2, in the
event the property were subdivided.
Don Metzler agreed to install sidewalks at a future date if the property is further developed.
There was discussion regarding possible future development of the property, the sidewalk
requirements, and a requirement for the petitioner to execute an agreement for the installation
of sidewalks at a future date. If the parcel is subdivided any further, the commitment would
provide for the installation of sidewalks, and this commitment would run to his successors,
heirs and assigns.
Jeanne Reid expressed concern that this piece of property may not be subdivided in the
future, but property on either side may be; at which point sidewalks would be requested of
the neighbonng properties and none would be in place on this particular property because it
was not subdivided. Ms. Reid requested that the general form be executed which stated, in
part, that if and when a sidewalk plan is developed for the area, the petitioner would install
sidewalks.
After further discussion, Terry Jones of the Department stated that lots one and two would be
required by the Subdivision Control Ordinance to install sidewalks; the remaining portion is
not a part of the Subdivision Plat and would not apply at this time.
Salim Najjar moved that the variance be granted, seconded by Paul Spranger. There was then
discussion on proposed conditions to the motion regarding future installation of sidewalks.
Gordon Byers then clarified the options before the Commission: the variance could be
granted absolutely (no requirement for the building of sidewalks), or approve the variance and
write the condition in the Finding of Fact. The proper procedure would be to remove the
motion on the floor and approve the variance with the condition that if it is subdivided,
sidewalks would be required.
Paul Spranger took back his second, Salim Najjar then moved that the variance be granted
with the conditions as stated by counsel, seconded by Dick Klar.
The motion was defective in that the condition needed to be specific. Dick Klar then
removed his second, Salim Najjar then removed his motion.
Salim Najjar then moved to grant a variance from Section 8.9 which would require the
petitioner to install sidewalks, with the CONDITION that the.petitioner will be required to
install sidewalks when adjoining property owners install sidewalks OR if the real estate which
is the subject of this application is further subdivided; seconded by Dick Klar.
The vote on the variance was twelve in favor, none opposed, MOTION APPROVED.
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Dick Klar moved for approval of Docket No. 14-95 P.P , Primary Plat for Lassiter Place,
seconded by Paul Spranger. The vote was twelve in favor, none opposed, MOTION
APPROVED.
Dick Klar moved for approval of Docket No. 15-95 SP, Secondary Plat for Lassiter Place,
seconded by Dave Cremeans. The vote was twelve in favor, none opposed, MOTION
APPROVED.
4h. Commission to consider Docket No. 17-95 P.P., a Pnmary Plat application for a
subdivision named Barker Subdivision. The pnmary plat consists of 3 lots on 6.3
acres of land located south of 116th Street and just west of the Monon Railroad. Site
is zoned R-1. The Petitioner has filed for the following Subdivision Regulations
Variances:
- Section 6.3.20 - Pnvate Streets are prohibited
- Section 6 5 1 - All lots must have a minimum frontage of 50' on a Right-of-
Way
- Section 8.9 - Installation of Sidewalks
Petitioner has also filed the secondary plat, Docket No 18-95 SP and is seeking
simultaneous approval.
Filed by Bruce Barker.
Bruce Barker, 932 Marwood Trail, North Dnve, Indianapolis 46280 appeared before the
Commission and gave an overview of the proposed project which is a three lot subdivision.
The first and second lots would be stacked and sold off; the third lot would be retained for
the Barker homesite. A private drive is being requested to service all three lots; the lots
would not have frontage on 116th Street; there are no sidewalks in the area and the petitioner
is requesting deferral until neighboring lots install sidewalks.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor or opposition to the proposed project;
none appeared and the public hearing was closed.
In response to questions from Judy Hagan, Mr Barker stated that he would grant nght-of-way
at the time of curb-cut approval. (75 feet) Mr. Barker also stated that he was definitely in
favor of the Monon being used as a hiking/biking trail and would not oppose that use. Mr.
Barker's homesite is proposed to be 150 feet from the edge of the property, running east/west.
The other two homes would probably face the private dnve, but Mr. Barker did not intend to
require that. Covenants were planned for the Subdivision in regard to minimum dollar home
value of $250,000. and landscaping requirements.
In response to further questions regarding covenants, Gordon Byers commented that the
Monon is a private, contractual issue and the City does not have any jurisdiction or interest,
as long as Mr. Barker complies with setbacks on the underlying zoning.
Luci Snyder asked about fire and emergency vehicles being able to access the pnvate street;
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Tent' Jones responded that the petitioner has widened the private street in order to
accommodate emergency vehicles. The reason for the variance is that the private street will
be gravel until the construction of the homes in the Subdivision are completed; afterward, the
street will either be asphalt or concrete.
Jeanne Reid expressed concern that an emergency vehicle would not be able to service tract
three; there is no provision for a turn around. Mr. Barker responded that the turn around has
not yet been drawn on the plans because he was not yet sure where the drive was going to be.
Mr. Barker did intend to have a turn around at his property line, perhaps a cul-de-sac, that
would accommodate service vehicles.
Dick Klar moved to refer Docket No. 17-95 PP to Subdivision Committee on May 2, 1995,
seconded by Ron Houck. The vote was 12 in favor, none opposed, MOTION APPROVED.
5h. Commission to consider Docket No. 23-95 P.P., a Pnmary Plat application for a
subdivision named Avian Glen Sections 8, 9, & 10. The pnmary plat consists of 152
lots on 93 acres of land located west of Cherry Tree Road and just north of 131st
Street. Site is zoned S-1.
Filed by Davis Development.
James J. Nelson, 3663 Brumley Way, Carmel, appeared before the Commission representing
the applicant, Avian Glen L.P., an affiliate of Davis Development Corp. Also present was
Chris White, President of Davis Development Corp.
Mr. Nelson gave an overview of the proposed project, Sections 8, 9, and 10 of Avian Glen,
on 93 acres located immediately south of Avian Glen and owned by Jerri and Robert Myers.
Special treatment is being afforded to the Mitchner Ditch and pockets of common area which
are reserved for landscaping and recreational purposes. A swimming pool and bathhouse
facilities will be available to the residents. Some trees along the Mitchner Ditch will have to
be removed in order to accomplish drainage procedures; however, the petitioner does intend
to preserve as many trees as possible. Also, a 15 foot wide, public access easement is to be
provided.
Adjacent to Cherry Tree Avenue, between the rear lots and the right-of-way, a 20 foot
common area has been provided which is parallel and adjacent to Cherry Tree Avenue, and
also between the rear lots and 131st Street. A soft, mild form of mounding and landscaping
is proposed which will provide consistency of treatment adjacent to the perimeter roadways;
these areas will be maintained by the Homeowners Association and pursuant to the covenants,
fencing is prohibited. Sidewalks are provided as required by the Ordinance.
Roadway improvements: The petitioner is granting additional right-of-way ( 40 foot one-half)
on Cherry Tree Avenue and a 50 foot one-half right-of-way on 131st Street. Adjacent to
131st Street, from the west property line of Avian Glen to Cherry Tree Avenue, for a distance
east of Cherry Tree Avenue, an additional lane to 131st Street is being provided; from 131st
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Street to a point extending north of the curve, the petitioner is providing for an additional lane
which well become a northbound lane, and separated from two southbound lanes by a median.
The severity of the curve as it exists today will be substantially reduced.
With respect to the entrance treatment, the existing entrance into Avian Glen will be
duplicated at the northernmost and southernmost entrances. (brick wall, brick columns, and
wrought iron)
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor of the proposed project; none appeared.
Members of the public were invited to speak in opposition to the proposed project; the
following appeared:
Don E. Kelb, 5179 Bnarwood Trail, Carmel, president of Bnarwood Homeowners
Association, appeared before the Commission and stated that he had met with Chris White of
Davis Development and expressed the following concerns: Pumping subsurface water dunng
construction; hours of operation dunng development and construction; construction of homes
as successors and assigns of Davis Development, L.P. Mr Kelb presented to the
Commission a letter of confirmation agreement covenng the aforementioned concerns, signed
by Chns White for Davis Development, L.P., and Don E. Kelb as president of the Bnarwood
Homeowners Association. The letter agreement was entered into the public record.
Chns Hartowicz, 5285 Canary Court, Carmel, president of Avian Glen Homeowners
Association Advisory Board, referred to a letter in which the homeowners of Avian Glen
sections 1 through 7 which summarized the feeling of the homeowners of Avian Glen 1
through 7 as well as the efforts undertaken by Chris White and the Advisory Board in the
existing sections. The Homeowners had voted for a separate name for the proposed sections.
There were also concerns regarding school re-districting. The existing Section would be
attending Cherry Tree Elementary; the proposed section would be attending a new school to
be built in the River Road area. Davis Development also owns an undeveloped plot opposite
Cherry Tree Road to the east, with an option to be exercised in two years. If Davis
Development favors setting up an entirely different homeowners association and removing
control from the existing group, there should be no objection to changing the name slightly to
avoid any future confusion.
Mr. Hartowicz was complimentary of Chris White and working relations with the Davis
Development group. The present instance is the only case where the homeowners and Davis
Development have disagreed, and the homeowners are asking Davis Development to make
concessions.
Tony Shalonka, 5178 Briarstone Trace, Carmel, expressed concern that the proposed Section
9 which abuts Bnarwood and Briarstone is not laid out in a way that is conducive to the
properties that exist, i e. the lot sizes are smaller in the proposed project and Mr. Shalonka
would like some type of buffer to protect home values.
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Joanne Allen, 5186 Bnarwood Trail, Carmel, expressed concern regarding lot density in the
proposed project; the lots are much smaller in the proposed project and Ms. Allen is
concerned about preserving existing home values.
Richard LaVarne, 5157 Bnarwood Circle, Carmel, expressed concern regarding preservation
of the existing fence that Mr. Myer had installed to prevent cattle from coming onto his
property. Mr. LaVarne requested that the fence remain, but that the top, single strand of
barbed wire be removed. Mr. LaVarne also stated that he has enjoyed the privacy and
integrity of his back yard, and if there are no trees or a berm installed, he was fearful of
uninvited guests. Also, the lake level could be a serious problem if it drops below a certain
level, but Mr. LaVarne thought this was addressed in the letter to Davis Development from
the Bnarwood Homeowners Association.
Joe Benitez, 5182 Briarstone Trace, Carmel, expressed concern with the elevation of the
properties on lots 9 and 10, since these two lots would interfere with the privacy of his
elevated property. Mr. Benitez requested a buffer of mounding and trees.
The public hearing was then closed on this project.
Jim Nelson responded to the comments as follows:
The lots in Bnarwood are larger than those proposed because that particular area is served by
septic, thus they were required to be larger at the time of development.
In regard to the name of the subdivision, Davis Development felt that it was important to
continue the marketing momentum achieved from the name of Avian Glen. In addition, the
proposed site is adjacent to the existing Avian Glen, an internal street is provided, and the
homes will be constructed by the same group of homebuilders; consistency has been provided
in the size of lots, the price of homes, and the type of entrance treatment. Primarily, the
name of Avian Glen is desired or a similar name. The developer is precluded from having any
name other than Avian Glen by the Communications Department. If the name is to be
similar, it must be the same due to the rules that govern 9-1-1
Luci Snyder asked about various lots along Cherry Tree Road, (lots 368 thru 374, lot 316,
lots 254 thru 259) and if her understanding was correct that a 20 foot green buffer was being
provided with trees and if those specific lots would not be allowed fences in their back yards.
Jim Nelson responded that adjacent to 131st, adjacent to Cherry Tree Avenue, there is a 20
foot common area which will be owned, controlled, and maintained by the Homeowners
Association and in which no fence is permitted except the wrought iron portion at the
entrance. Lot owners could, however, put fences at the edge of the specific lots Luci
mentioned, but not in the common area, but the fences would be limited to four feet in height,
no alley fences.
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Jay Dorman encouraged the Plan Commission to send a communication to the County
regarding the present 45 mile per hour speed limit on 131st Street; hopefully the speed limit
could be reduced to 30 mph.
Jeanne Reid asked about the northern entrance into Sections 8, 9, and 10 on Cherry Tree
Road. Chris White responded that there is a full intersection, but the deceleration lane into
the project would be nght turn only/in only; the other entrance is both in and out.
Ms. Reid also asked about the location and size of the berms; Chns White stated that the
berms are only being proposed within the common area along Cherry Tree. Bnarwood
Assoc. had requested the removal of existing trees and a berm put in their place; Davis
Development had not agreed to do so. There is a substantial, existing tree line along most of
the frontage of Briarwood, most of which are very large trees that provide a natural buffer;
these will be maintained and no additional berming or smaller trees are proposed along the
west property line.
In response to the residents of Avian Glen regarding the through street to the north, Davis
Development has agreed to install a temporary barricade during construction to prevent traffic
from "cutting through" the existing sections. No commitment is being made to close the
street on a permanent basis, in fact, the street will be open. Terry Jones responded that any
barncade would have to be approved by the Carmel Board of Public Works and Safety.
Tom Thompson asked Mr. Nelson to explain the traffic recommendation that Cherry Tree
Road be eliminated in the future as a through street. Jim Nelson responded that the
Comprehensive Plan calls for the Hazeldel extension which is a north/south corridor in the
eastern part of Clay Township and would extend to 96th Street. The likelihood of the
roadway beginning soon and continuing to at least 131st Street is a very real possibility
because half of the roadway will be constructed in connection with Plum Creek's residential
development and the other half was part of Plum Creek's commercial development. As other
real estate develops in the area, Hazeldel will no doubt extend southward from the point
where Cherry Tree Avenue becomes Hazeldel Road, south to 131st Street. When that occurs
and is in place, it has been suggested that Cherry Tree Avenue be eliminated as a public
roadway, thus avoiding the opportunity for its use as a "cut through." Residents in the area
would utilize what is to become a boulevard, Hazeldel Road. There would then be a major
intersection at Hazeldel Road and 131st Street which would be signalized. There is the
thought that Cherry Tree may someday be abandoned as a public roadway and utilized as a
pedestnan pathway or recreational area.
Barbara Myers asked about access to the Myers property if Cherry Tree is abandoned; Jim
Nelson responded that there is provision made for a 20 foot access easement to the Myers
property.
Docket No. 23-95 P P , Avian Glen Sections 8, 9, and 10 was referred to Subdivision
Committee which will meet May 2, 1995 at 7 00 PM in the Caucus Rooms.
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6h. Commission to consider Docket No. 24-95 DP/ADLS and 25-95 SP, a Development
Plan and Architectural Design, Lighting, Landscaping and Signage and Secondary Plat
approval application for UN Printing Building. The site is located at 1425 Chase
Court, Carmel. The petitioner is requesting approval to construct a 29,950 square foot
commercial warehouse/flex space building. Site is zoned M-3.
Filed by David Freiburger.
Sheila Marshall of Coots, Henke &Wheeler, 255 East Carmel Drive, appeared before the
Commission representing the applicant. David Freiburger was present as well as Jeff Melrose
and Bruce Hagen of MSE Engineering. Bill and Janet Corbin of UN Printing were also in
attendance.
UN Printing will be the major occupant of the 29,250 square foot warehouse; a small portion
of the space will be allocated to the Carmel HiFlyer. The building will be of split-face block
with a dark blue trim. The landscape plan includes three foot Ash Trees, Locust Trees along
the front perimeter of the property line, Blue Spruce near the entrance to the building, Maple
and Ash along the rear, mulch and yews closer to the building with Burning Bush. The
signage for UN Printing will be 18 inch, individually lit letters of a block style; HiFlyer's
letters will be 12 inches, individually lit letters. The required parking is 48 spaces, the
petitioner has provided over 100 spaces.
The drainage was approved by the Technical Advisory Committee. The Board of Public
Works has already approved the curb cut. A sample of the tinted glass to be used in the
entry way and front windows was shown.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor or opposition to the proposed project;
none appeared and the public hearing was closed.
Jeanne Reid asked about the signage on the building; whether or not the letters were
individually lit or if there was back lighting against some metallic form of letter. David
Freiburger responded that the letters themselves will be illuminated, and the colors will be
red.
Paul Spranger asked if the petitioner would review the level of illumination of the sign; Mr.
Freiburger agreed.
Alan Klineman asked about the spillage of the lighting and whether or not it was acceptable.
Terry Jones of the Department responded that the lighting was acceptable; there is a point one
foot candle at the property line.
Docket Nos. 24-95 DP/ADLS and 25-95 SP for UN Printing were referred to the Special
Study Committee which will meet May 2, 1995 at 7.00 PM in the Caucus Rooms.
7h. Commission to consider Docket No. 26-95 DP/ADLS and 27-95 SP, a Development
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Plan and Architectural Design, Lighting, Landscaping and Signage and Secondary Plat
approval application for Off The Wall Sports. The site is located at 1423 Chase
Court, Cannel. The petitioner is requesting approval to construct a 29,000 square foot
indoor sports facility. Site is zoned M-3.
Filed by Dan Peeples.
Dan Peeples and Dale Moulton appeared before the Commission on behalf of the applicant.
Also in attendance were Gary Murray and Sam Stover of Paul I. Cnpe, Inc. and Sam Yau
from the Ross Group. Off The Wall Sports will be an indoor facility for youth and adult
Soccer and possibly roller hockey.
Off The Wall Sports will be staffed by professional management, and they are hoping to draw
from surrounding communities. It is hoped that the overall economic impact on the Carmel
community will be favorable.
It is anticipated that no more than 50 vehicles would be on the grounds at any one time. The
hours of operation for the facility are dunng non-prime time hours and traffic will not be a
problem.
At present, there are two stands of trees on the property which will be preserved; one on the
east side, the other along the southern border. There is a regulated drainage easement on the
site. The petitioner has been in contact with Matt Dickey of the Carmel Clay Parks and
Recreation Dept. regarding future plans of perhaps a spur to the Monon Trail along Carmel
Creek; the petitioner is very receptive to the idea and would like to keep the area as natural
as possible.
The sign will be 72 inches wide and about 44 inches tall; it will not be lit. The colors will
be the same as the building; the materials will be of sandblasted redwood with cedar posts.
The building will have highlights of a Forest Green color.
The petitioner has proposed 144 parking spaces which exceeds the requirement. The parking
lot contains berms of flowers and trees and vegetation. At the entry will be mounded
plantings and bushes.
The petitioner will be installing sidewalks and rolled curbing in the parking lot area. There
will also be handicap parking available. The petitioner will be using split-face block and
smooth, scored block on the building. All lighting will be retained in the parking areas which
will consist of two fixtures.
There will be a drainage swail around the property which will drain to the Creek.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor of the proposed project; the following
appeared:
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Sam Yau, Architect, 1417 Jeffrey Court, Carmel, stated he has been coaching youth soccer in
Carmel for 17 years and felt that the proposed project would be a most welcome addition to
Carmel. At present, the residents of Carmel travel to the east and west side of Indianapolis to
utilize facilities and Mr. Yau was very much in favor of having a sports facility in the
immediate area.
The public hearing portion was then closed.
Jay Dorman asked that the petitioner consider potential expansion of the parking area.
Salim Najjar asked about the outdoor field if further expansion occurred. Mr. Peeples
responded that the area would be used primarily for practice and would not require a large
amount of space.
Jeanne Reid asked for clarification of the non-sports activities that would occur on the
premises. Mr. Peeples responded that primarily the facility would be used for indoor soccer,
indoor roller hockey, coaching clinics or individual soccer player training; occasionally it
might be used for birthday parties.
Docket Nos. 26-95 DP/ADLS and 27-95 SP was referred to the Special Study Committee
which will meet May 2, 1995 at 7:00 PM in the Caucus Rooms.
8h. Commission to reconsider Docket No. 74-94B DP/ADLS, a Development Plan and
Architectural Design, Lighting and Signage application for Shurgard Storage Centers,
Inc. The petitioner is seeking approval to locate an approximate 75,000 square foot
storage facility on the south side of the intersection of US 31 and US 431 (commonly
known as "The Point.") The petitioner will also be appearing before the Carmel/Clay
Board of Zoning Appeals for Special Use and Developmental Standards Vanances.
Filed by James Nelson for Shurgard Storage Centers, Inc.
James J. Nelson, 3663 Brumley Way, Carmel, appeared before the Commission and gave a
brief history of the original submission of the Shurgard Storage facility, since no members of
the public had questions. Mr. Nelson requested that the minutes of the November 15, 1994
Plan Commission meeting, as they pertain to this Docket, be incorporated and made a part of
the record of this proceeding.
Two primary changes have been made to the Development Plan. First was the selection of a
new family of extenor building materials; Second was a revision to the landscape plan. The
new materials are dnvit, rough textured split-face block, and smooth textured split-face block.
The new building materials were shown in a drawing/photograph of an existing facility in
Ansley Park, Atlanta, Georgia.
A drawing was shown of the northwest elevation of that portion of building one as viewed
from Meridian heading north. It was suggested at Special Study Committee that building
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number two, specifically the east, south, and west elevations, consist of rough textured, split-
face block throughout and the decorative band of smooth textured, split face block; the
petitioner has agreed to comply.
At the suggestion of the Committee, the petitioner met with Mike Hollibaugh of the
Department to formulate a landscape that he found acceptable. The landscape plan which has
been prepared incorporates a combination of deciduous trees, coniferous trees, and ornamental
plant materials of varying heights, varying maturities, and varying spreads. The area west of
the creek is being preserved Along the west property line which is adjacent to the
undeveloped parcel, white pines had originally been provided; that has been changed to
Norway Spruce. The purpose of the landscape plan was to create a landscape screen adjacent
to the perimeter boundaries fronting on Mendian and Keystone and the undeveloped parcel to
the west. Additional plantings have been provided and the Norway Spruce trees will be offset
or staggered. The landscape plan is a final formulation as of one hour ago.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor or opposition of the proposed project;
none appeared.
Tom Thompson gave the report of the Special Study Committee; the Committee had reviewed
the revised development plan with particular regard to the exterior design of the buildings and
the landscaping. The Committee did vote for approval, conditioned upon the petitioner's
agreement to revise the exterior materials of building two to conform with building one, and
also conditioned upon re-design of the landscaping plan in accordance and agreement with the
Department of Community Development.
Tom Thompson moved for approval of Docket No 74-94B DP/ADLS, a Development Plan
and Architectural Design, Lighting and Signage application for Shurgard Storage Centers,
Inc., seconded by Jeanne Reid.
Procedurally, the rules must be suspended in order to vote on this Docket. Therefore, Jeanne
Reid withdrew her second, Tom Thompson withdrew his motion.
Jeanne Reid moved to suspend the rules and vote, seconded by Tom Thompson. The vote
was 11 in favor, none opposed to suspension of rules. Motion Passed.
Tom Thompson moved for approval of Docket No. 74-94B, seconded by Jeanne Reid. The
vote was 11 in favor, none opposed. MOTION APPROVED.
I. OLD BUSINESS
1 i. Commission to consider Docket No. 9-95 DP/ADLS, a Development Plan and
Architectural Design, Lighting, Landscaping and Signage approval application for H.P.
Products. The site is located at 10800 North Michigan Road, Clay Township. The
petitioner is requesting approval to construct a 135,000 square foot office/warehouse
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building. Site is zoned B-3 and is located within the US 421 Overlay Zone.
Additionally, the site lies within both Carmel/Clay Zoning jurisdiction and the Boone
County Zoning junsdiction.
Filed by James J. Nelson for H.P. Products.
NOTE: Due to a conflict of interest, Salim Najjar abstained from voting and did not
participate in the discussion of this Docket.
Jim Nelson gave a very bnef review of this Docket which went through public hearing and
Special Study Committee.
Tom Thompson, Chairman of the Special Study Committee, reported that the Special Study
had moved for the approval of this project.
Tom Thompson moved for approval of Docket No. 9-95, seconded by Dick Klar.
Judy Hagan reminded the petitioner of the 25 year road plan for the widening of 421. Mr.
Nelson responded that the nght of way does accommodate the proposed improvements.
The vote was 10 in favor, Salim Najjar abstaining, MOTION APPROVED.
NOTE: Ron Houck exited the meeting at this point and did not return.
J. NEW BUSINESS
lj. Commission to consider Docket No. 30-95 ADLS, an Architectural Design, Lighting,
Landscaping and Signage approval application for Conseco. The site is located at 501
Congressional Boulevard, Cannel. The petitioner is requesting approval to place a 56
square foot wall sign on the front of the existing building. Site is zoned B-6.
Filed by John White for Conseco.
Doug Staley, president of Staley Signs, 515 North Park Avenue, Indianapolis, appeared before
the Commission as well as John White, vice president of Conseco. The proposed sign is on
the north elevation of the building at 501 Congressional Boulevard. The signage consists of
individual, neon illuminated letters with white plastic faces; the return edges are dark bronze
with white neon illumination inside each letter. The "C" is 36 inches tall, the lower case
letters are 21 inches tall. The signage is consistent with other signage in the Meridian
Technology Center.
Dick Klar moved for suspension of the rules, seconded by Judy Hagan. The vote was 11 in
favor, none opposed, Motion Passed.
Dick Klar moved for approval of Docket No. 30-95 ADLS, seconded by Tom Thompson.
The vote was 11 in favor, none opposed, MOTION APPROVED
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2j. Commission to consider Docket No. 31-95 ADLS, an Architectural Design, Lighting,
Landscaping and Signage approval application for McQuik's Oilube. The site is
located at 1495 Keystone Way, Carmel. The petitioner is requesting approval to place
a lighted canopy and updated signage on the existing facility Site is zoned B-8.
Filed by Gary Kirklin.
Gary Kirklin, 3861 N. Wheeling Avenue, Muncie, Indiana 47304 appeared before the
Commission as Construction Manager for Q-Lube Inc., a Quaker Sate Company, which had
purchased the McQuik's in Indiana. The proposed plans for the site at 1495 Keystone Way
are for a new facade system which will be a backlit canopy, updated signage, and
remanicunng the present landscaping.
In response to questions from Paul Spranger, Mr. Kirklin stated that the level of illumination
will be consistent with the area.
Alan Klineman asked about the hours of the business. Mr. Kirklin stated that McQuik's was
open until 6:00 PM and the timer could be set to go off at 7:00 PM.
Dick Klar moved to suspend the rules, seconded by Tom Thompson. The vote was 11 in
favor, none opposed. Motion Passed.
Dick Klar moved to approve Docket No. 31-95 ADLS for McQuik's Oilube, seconded by
Tom Thompson.
After discussion among Plan Commission Members regarding the hours the sign would be
illuminated, Dick Klar amended his motion to provide that the sign would be turned off
within one hour after the close of business. This motion was not seconded as amended.
The vote was ten in favor, one opposed (name?) MOTION APPROVED.
There being.no other business to come before the Commission, Dick Klar moved for
adjournment at 10:45 PM, seconded by Dave Cremeans. UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Barbara Myers, President Ramona Hancock, Secretary
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