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Home My WebLink About15030050 Correspondence.pdf1 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Jordan Rapp <jordan@peacewaterwinery.com> Sent:Monday, March 23, 2015 3:24 PM To:Glaser, Fred J Cc:Mishler, Nicholas F; Scott Burton Subject:Peace Water Right of Way Permit Fred, We dropped off the right of way permit for Peace Water Winery earlier today alongside the surety bond. We were asked to provide a drawing representing how the site would be accessed. I have attached the drawing illustrating the access point for construction deliveries through the south alley. Please let Scott or I know if anything else is needed to complete the right of way permit. Jordan Rapp Peace Water Winery 317.810.1330 peacewaterwinery.com 2 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Peace Water <scott@peacewaterwinery.com> Sent:Friday, March 20, 2015 11:41 AM To:Mishler, Nicholas F Cc:Glaser, Fred J Subject:Re: Peace Water Winery patio Fred, Please advise on what we need here. Not sure what a "right of way" permit is. We assumed it had to do with needing to block public spaces like sidewalks so didn't apply. Just let us know and we will get on it! Thanks. J. Scott Burton Sent from my iPhone On Mar 20, 2015, at 6:48 AM, Mishler, Nicholas F < nmishler@carmel.in.gov > wrote: Scott, see below. Can you contact Fred Glaser and see what is required to obtain a right-of-way permit? Thanks, Nick Mishler Administrative Assistant Building & Code Services (317) 571-2489 Please consider the environment before printing this email From: Glaser, Fred J Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 7:39 AM To: Mishler, Nicholas F; Jordan, Alex; Thomas, John G; Barnes, David R Subject: RE: Peace Water Winery patio I don’t have a RW permit for this one. Fred From: Mishler, Nicholas F Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 4:37 PM To: Jordan, Alex; Thomas, John G; Glaser, Fred J; Barnes, David R Subject: Peace Water Winery patio Good afternoon, is this one OK to release? The address is 37 W. Main. Thanks, 3 Nick Mishler Administrative Assistant Building & Code Services (317) 571-2489 Please consider the environment before printing this email 4 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Glaser, Fred J Sent:Friday, March 20, 2015 7:39 AM To:Mishler, Nicholas F; Jordan, Alex; Thomas, John G; Barnes, David R Subject:RE: Peace Water Winery patio I don’t have a RW permit for this one. Fred From: Mishler, Nicholas F Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 4:37 PM To: Jordan, Alex; Thomas, John G; Glaser, Fred J; Barnes, David R Subject: Peace Water Winery patio Good afternoon, is this one OK to release? The address is 37 W. Main. Thanks, Nick Mishler Administrative Assistant Building & Code Services (317) 571-2489 Please consider the environment before printing this email 5 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Scott work <scott@peacewaterwinery.com> Sent:Tuesday, March 10, 2015 1:54 PM To:Duffy, John M Cc:Mishler, Nicholas F; Jordan Rapp; Kempa, Lisa L Subject:Re: Peace Water Winery patio addition John - Thank you for your input. We actually just replaced the entire sewer line from the building to the main about a month ago. It actually runs right down the westerly property line now so that will be just outside the structure. As for water or other lines, they did not find any other lines under the proposed structure when they did the locates in preparation for the sewer line excavation. Happy to meet here to discuss in detail. I can be here most any day from 11 - 3. Let me know if and when you’d like to meet. Thanks, Scott On Mar 5, 2015, at 10:13 AM, Duffy, John M < JDuffy@carmel.in.gov > wrote: Scott and Jordan, This building and the adjacent building have both water and sanitary sewer behind the building. It appears that the patio will be built over the top of these lines which could be problematic for you and us if there is an issue that requires access to the line or an excavation of the line. I suggest we meet on-site next week to discuss in more detail. Please suggest some days and times that will work for you. Thanks John Duffy Director of Carmel Water and Carmel Sewer Utilities From: Mishler, Nicholas F Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 4:20 PM To: Conn, Angelina V; Littlejohn, David W; Lopez, Alexia K; Mindham, Daren; ' jlclark@vectren.com '; Duffy, John M; Kempa, Lisa L; Thomas, John G; Barnes, David R; Lux, Pamela K; Kass, Joslyn; Jordan, Alex; ' Greg.Hoyes@hamiltoncounty.in.gov '; ' Hartman-ryan.hartman@ctrwd.org '; ' Trent.Godsey@duke- energy.com '; Jordan, Alex; Glaser, Fred J Cc: 'Scott work'; Jordan Rapp Subject: Peace Water Winery patio addition Good afternoon- I have received digital plans for a new patio addition at Peace Water Winery. This project will be located behind the tenant space, which is at 37 W. Main St. Please let me know if your department has any issues which will need to be addressed before a permit is issued. Also, please copy Scott Work and Jordan Rapp with Peace Water Winery when you send your reply. They are both CC’d on this email. Thanks! 6 Nick Mishler Administrative Assistant Building & Code Services (317) 571-2489 Please consider the environment before printing this email 7 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Conn, Angelina V Sent:Tuesday, March 10, 2015 10:05 AM To:Mishler, Nicholas F Cc:Blanchard, Jim E; Lux, Pamela K Subject:FW: Plum Creek Golf Club Pump House Structure FYI. Angie Conn, AICP | Planning Administrator From: Thomas, John G Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 9:43 AM To: Conn, Angelina V Cc: Barnes, David R; Kashman, Jeremy M Subject: FW: Plum Creek Golf Club Pump House Structure Hi Angie, Plum Creek Golf Course is applying for a variance through the BPW from our fill in the floodplain prohibition. He needs to rewrite the letter to the Board, but his 1:1 cut and fill mitigation plan (so he does not cause floodplain loss) is acceptable. I have no issue if he proceeds at his own risk until the variance is approved. Sincerely, John Thomas, CPESC, CMS4S Storm Water Administrator City of Carmel Engineering Department (p) 317-571-2314 (f) 317-571-2439 From: Ecreek@aol.com [mailto:Ecreek@aol.com ] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 8:50 AM To: dbarnes@carmelin.gov Cc: Thomas, John G; Ecreek@aol.com Subject: Plum Creek Golf Club Pump House Structure Dear Dave Barnes, Please see attached file for plans on pump house structure cut/fill. Thanks Jeff Lohss 903-8171 8 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Conn, Angelina V Sent:Thursday, March 05, 2015 10:46 AM To:Mishler, Nicholas F Subject:RE: Peace Water Patio Hi, Nick - Gary Duncan is still listed as a contact person on your form...perhaps, you can change that to Alex Jordan? Angie -----Original Message----- From: Mishler, Nicholas F Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 4:13 PM To: 'Scott work'; Conn, Angelina V Cc: Jordan Rapp Subject: RE: Peace Water Patio I have attached the commercial submittal sheet for reference, but first you would need to get an email or some sort of documentation from the state that they will not require a plan submittal. Dave and Bonnie at the State of Indiana would need to see your plans, and their addresses can be found highlighted on this sheet. Once you receive the response from them you can submit your plans to us. We will need 3 sets of building plans and a completed application. In the meantime, I can send these plans out to other departments such as engineering, utilities, etc and make sure everyone is OK with it. Once we have everything submitted, including all approvals, our review time is typically one week. If you have any questions, give me a call. Thanks, Nick Mishler Administrative Assistant Building & Code Services (317) 571-2489 P Please consider the environment before printing this email -----Original Message----- From: Scott work [ mailto:scott@peacewaterwinery.com ] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 4:08 PM To: Conn, Angelina V Cc: Mishler, Nicholas F; Jordan Rapp Subject: Re: Peace Water Patio Great news Angie. Thank you so much for all your help in this process! We are excited to add a much needed improvement to that area. We will definitely send pictures … or you could stop by for a glass of wine sometime! Nick, please advise what we need to do next. Thanks! Scott > On Mar 4, 2015, at 4:02 PM, Conn, Angelina V < Aconn@carmel.in.gov > wrote: > > Good afternoon, Scott - > 9 > The Planning/Zoning Dept. has administratively approved your outdoor patio proposal, as amended, and we will update the Peace Water Winery Plan Commission file (docket no. 14020018 ADLS Amend)! The next step is you working with Nick Mishler in the Carmel Building Permits Dept. to secure any permits and inspections needed. He can be reached at 571-2444 or nmishler@carmel.in.gov . He will guide you through that process. > > Please note that any new sign needs Sign Permit approval, and that application is online at: http://www.carmel.in.gov/modules/showdocument.aspx?documentid=4836 . Please fill that out and submit 2 copies of everything required, to Cat Schoenherr in our office. > > Lastly, did you mention that you were already working with the Carmel Engineering Dept. to get permits and approvals from them, too? Such as the right of way permit and things like that? If so, then you are on the right track, and Nick can fill you in on the details of what that Dept. will require. > > (If you remember, please also email me photos of the finished > product!) > > Angie Conn, AICP | Planning Administrator City of Carmel Dept. of > Community Services > 1 Civic Square, 3rd Flr., Carmel, IN 46032 > O: 317-571-2417 | Direct: 317-571-2281 | F: 317-571-2426 | W: www.carmeldocs.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott work [ mailto:scott@peacewaterwinery.com ] > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 3:46 PM > To: Conn, Angelina V > Subject: Peace Water Patio > > Angie - > I hope all is well. Just wanted to follow up to see if we have addressed all the concerns you raised and get direction on next steps. > > Thanks! > > Scott Burton 10 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Conn, Angelina V Sent:Thursday, March 05, 2015 10:37 AM To:Mishler, Nicholas F Cc:'Scott work'; Jordan Rapp; Lux, Pamela K; Schoenherr, Catherine Subject:RE: Peace Water Winery patio addition Good morning, Nick – The Planning/Zoning Dept. has administratively approved the outdoor patio project ( excluding the sign design ), and we will update plan commission file docket no. 14020018 ADLS Amend. The proposed parking lot facing sign needs sign permit approval, and also needs to comply with the Sign Ordinance standards for a multi-tenant building and multi-tenant building complex. (He will need to remove the current parking lot facing sign, too, as part of this approval for the new sign which is to hang from the wood truss area.) As proposed, the 100% logo sign does not comply. The sign needs to incorporate text, too, so that the logo makes up 25% of the sign area or less. Scott can work with Cat S. in our office to get the signage reviewed and approved, via the sign permit process. Sincerely, Angie Conn, AICP | Planning Administrator City of Carmel Dept. of Community Services 1 Civic Square, 3rd Flr., Carmel, IN 46032 O: 317-571-2417 | Direct: 317-571-2281 | F: 317-571-2426 | W: www.carmeldocs.com From: Mishler, Nicholas F Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 4:20 PM To: Conn, Angelina V; Littlejohn, David W; Lopez, Alexia K; Mindham, Daren; 'jlclark@vectren.com'; Duffy, John M; Kempa, Lisa L; Thomas, John G; Barnes, David R; Lux, Pamela K; Kass, Joslyn; Jordan, Alex; 'Greg.Hoyes@hamiltoncounty.in.gov'; 'Hartman-ryan.hartman@ctrwd.org'; 'Trent.Godsey@duke-energy.com'; Jordan, Alex; Glaser, Fred J Cc: 'Scott work'; Jordan Rapp Subject: Peace Water Winery patio addition Good afternoon- I have received digital plans for a new patio addition at Peace Water Winery. Thi s project will be located behind the tenant space, which is at 37 W. Main St. Please let me know if your department has any issues which will need to be addressed before a permit is issued. Also, please copy Scott Work and Jordan Rapp with Peace Water Winery when you send your reply. They are both CC’d on this email. Thanks! Nick Mishler Administrative Assistant Building & Code Services (317) 571-2489 Please consider the environment before printing this email 11 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Duffy, John M Sent:Thursday, March 05, 2015 10:14 AM To:Mishler, Nicholas F Cc:Jordan Rapp; 'Scott work'; Kempa, Lisa L Subject:RE: Peace Water Winery patio addition Scott and Jordan, This building and the adjacent building have both water and sanitary sewer behind the building. It appears that the patio will be built over the top of these lines which could be problematic for you and us if there is an issue that requires access to the line or an excavation of the line. I suggest we meet on-site next week to discuss in more detail. Please suggest some days and times that will work for you. Thanks John Duffy Director of Carmel Water and Carmel Sewer Utilities From: Mishler, Nicholas F Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 4:20 PM To: Conn, Angelina V; Littlejohn, David W; Lopez, Alexia K; Mindham, Daren; 'jlclark@vectren.com'; Duffy, John M; Kempa, Lisa L; Thomas, John G; Barnes, David R; Lux, Pamela K; Kass, Joslyn; Jordan, Alex; 'Greg.Hoyes@hamiltoncounty.in.gov'; 'Hartman-ryan.hartman@ctrwd.org'; 'Trent.Godsey@duke-energy.com'; Jordan, Alex; Glaser, Fred J Cc: 'Scott work'; Jordan Rapp Subject: Peace Water Winery patio addition Good afternoon- I have received digital plans for a new patio addition at Peace Water Winery. This project will be located behind the tenant space, which is at 37 W. Main St. Please let me know if your department has any issues which will need to be addressed before a permit is issued. Also, please copy Scott Work and Jordan Rapp with Peace Water Winery when you send your reply. They are both CC’d on this email. Thanks! Nick Mishler Administrative Assistant Building & Code Services (317) 571-2489 Please consider the environment before printing this email 12 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Clark, Joanne L. <jlclark@Vectren.com> Sent:Thursday, March 05, 2015 8:21 AM To:Mishler, Nicholas F; Conn, Angelina V; Littlejohn, David W; Lopez, Alexia K; Mindham, Daren; 'jlclark@vectren.com'; Duffy, John M; Kempa, Lisa L; Thomas, John G; Barnes, David R; Lux, Pamela K; Kass, Joslyn; Jordan, Alex; 'Greg.Hoyes@hamiltoncounty.in.gov'; 'Hartman-ryan.hartman@ctrwd.org'; 'Trent.Godsey@duke-energy.com'; Jordan, Alex; Glaser, Fred J Cc:'Scott work'; Jordan Rapp Subject:RE: Peace Water Winery patio addition Nick, Per survey drawing it looks as if the gas service line to the building was located as well as the gas main line in the alley. Vectren should not have any issues with the patio addition as it doesn’t appear to be in conflict with our natural gas lines or meter settings. But before that first shovel touches the ground 811 will need to be called to verify all utilities in the project area. Thank you, Joanie Clark Vectren Energy Delivery 317-776-5532 From: Mishler, Nicholas F [mailto:nmishler@carmel.in.gov] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 4:20 PM To: Conn, Angelina V; Littlejohn, David W; Lopez, Alexia K; Mindham, Daren; 'jlclark@vectren.com'; Duffy, John M; Kempa, Lisa L; Thomas, John G; Barnes, David R; Lux, Pamela K; Kass, Joslyn; Jordan, Alex; 'Greg.Hoyes@hamiltoncounty.in.gov'; 'Hartman-ryan.hartman@ctrwd.org'; 'Trent.Godsey@duke-energy.com'; Jordan, Alex; Glaser, Fred J Cc: 'Scott work'; Jordan Rapp Subject: Peace Water Winery patio addition This EXTE RNAL email contains an attachment. Do not open attachments or click on links in emails unless you are certain the source AND content of the email are credible. Good afternoon- I have received digital plans for a new patio addition at Peace Water Winery. This project will be located behind the tenant space, which is at 37 W. Main St. Please let me know if your department has any issues which will need to be addressed before a permit is issued. Also, please copy Scott Work and Jordan Rapp with Peace Water Winery when you send your reply. They are both CC’d on this email. Thanks! Nick Mishler Administrative Assistant Building & Code Services (317) 571-2489 Please consider the environment before printing this email 13 This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law or may constitute as attorney work product. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, notify us immediately by telephon e and (i) destroy this message if a facsimile or (ii) delete this message immediately if this is an electronic communication. Thank you. 14 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Scott work <scott@peacewaterwinery.com> Sent:Wednesday, March 04, 2015 4:43 PM To:Mishler, Nicholas F Cc:Conn, Angelina V; Jordan Rapp Subject:Re: Peace Water Patio Great Nick and thank you. I emailed the plans to both Bonnie and Dave almost a month ago but have not received a response. I have a call into Bonnie this afternoon as well and will keep you posted. We will also get to work on the documents you need and submit them asap. Thanks again, Scott > On Mar 4, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Mishler, Nicholas F <nmishler@carmel.in.gov > wrote: > > I have attached the commercial submittal sheet for reference, but first you would need to get an email or some sort of docu mentation from the state that they will not require a plan submittal. Dave and Bonnie at the State of Indiana would need to see your plans, and their addresses can be found highlighted on this sheet. > > Once you receive the response from them you can submit your plans to us. We will need 3 sets of building plans and a completed application. In the meantime, I can send these plans out to other departments such as engineering, utilities, etc and make sure everyone is OK with it. Once we have everything submitted, including all approvals, our review time is typically one week. > > If you have any questions, give me a call. > > > Thanks, > > Nick Mishler > Administrative Assistant > Building & Code Services > (317) 571-2489 > > Please consider the environment before printing this email > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott work [ mailto:scott@peacewaterwinery.com ] > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 4:08 PM > To: Conn, Angelina V > Cc: Mishler, Nicholas F; Jordan Rapp > Subject: Re: Peace Water Patio > > Great news Angie. Thank you so much for all your help in this process! We are excited to add a much needed improvement to that area. We will definitely send pictures … or you could stop by for a glass of wine sometime! > > Nick, please advise what we need to do next. Thanks! > > Scott > >> On Mar 4, 2015, at 4:02 PM, Conn, Angelina V < Aconn@carmel.in.gov > wrote: >> >> Good afternoon, Scott - >> >> The Planning/Zoning Dept. has administratively approved your outdoor patio proposal, as amended, and we will update the Peace 15 Water Winery Plan Commission file (docket no. 14020018 ADLS Amend)! The next step is you working with Nick Mishler in the Carmel Building Permits Dept. to secure any permits and inspections needed. He can be reached at 571-2444 or nmishler@carmel.in.gov . He will guide you through that process. >> >> Please note that any new sign needs Sign Permit approval, and that application is online at: http://www.carmel.in.gov/modules/showdocument.aspx?documentid=4836 . Please fill that out and submit 2 copies of everything required, to Cat Schoenherr in our office. >> >> Lastly, did you mention that you were already working with the Carmel Engineering Dept. to get permits and approvals from them, too? Such as the right of way permit and things like that? If so, then you are on the right track, and Nick can fill you in on the details of what that Dept. will require. >> >> (If you remember, please also email me photos of the finished >> product!) >> >> Angie Conn, AICP | Planning Administrator City of Carmel Dept. of >> Community Services >> 1 Civic Square, 3rd Flr., Carmel, IN 46032 >> O: 317-571-2417 | Direct: 317-571-2281 | F: 317-571-2426 | W: www.carmeldocs.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Scott work [ mailto:scott@peacewaterwinery.com ] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 3:46 PM >> To: Conn, Angelina V >> Subject: Peace Water Patio >> >> Angie - >> I hope all is well. Just wanted to follow up to see if we have addressed all the concerns you raised and get direction on next steps. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Scott Burton > > <Commercial-Institutional New Structure & Addition Submittal Requirements.pdf> 16 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Greg R. Hoyes <Greg.Hoyes@hamiltoncounty.in.gov> Sent:Wednesday, March 04, 2015 4:27 PM To:Mishler, Nicholas F Cc:'Scott work'; Jordan Rapp Subject:RE: Peace Water Winery patio addition Nick No comments from HCSO. Greg Hoyes, AC, CFM, CPESC Plan Reviewer Hamilton County Surveyor's Office From: Mishler, Nicholas F [mailto:nmishler@carmel.in.gov] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 4:20 PM To: Conn, Angelina V; Littlejohn, David W; Lopez, Alexia K; Mindham, Daren; 'jlclark@vectren.com'; Duffy, John M; Kempa, Lisa L; Thomas, John G; Barnes, David R; Lux, Pamela K; Kass, Joslyn; Jordan, Alex; 'Greg.Hoyes@hamiltoncounty.in.gov'; 'Hartman-ryan.hartman@ctrwd.org'; 'Trent.Godsey@duke-energy.com'; Jordan, Alex; Glaser, Fred J Cc: 'Scott work'; Jordan Rapp Subject: Peace Water Winery patio addition Good afternoon- I have received digital plans for a new patio addition at Peace Water Winery. This proje ct will be located behind the tenant space, which is at 37 W. Main St. Please let me know if your department has any issues which will need to be addressed before a permit is issued. Also, please copy Scott Work and Jordan Rapp with Peace Water Winery when you send your reply. They are both CC’d on this email. Thanks! Nick Mishler Administrative Assistant Building & Code Services (317) 571-2489 Please consider the environment before printing this email 17 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Kempa, Lisa L Sent:Wednesday, March 04, 2015 4:26 PM To:Mishler, Nicholas F Subject:RE: Peace Water Winery patio addition Utilities have no issues Lisa Kempa Carmel Utilities 30 West Main St., Ste 220 317/571-2443 From: Mishler, Nicholas F Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 4:20 PM To: Conn, Angelina V; Littlejohn, David W; Lopez, Alexia K; Mindham, Daren; 'jlclark@vectren.com'; Duffy, John M; Kempa, Lisa L; Thomas, John G; Barnes, David R; Lux, Pamela K; Kass, Joslyn; Jordan, Alex; 'Greg.Hoyes@hamiltoncounty.in.gov'; 'Hartman-ryan.hartman@ctrwd.org'; 'Trent.Godsey@duke-energy.com'; Jordan, Alex; Glaser, Fred J Cc: 'Scott work'; Jordan Rapp Subject: Peace Water Winery patio addition Good afternoon- I have received digital plans for a new patio addition at Peace Water Winery. This proje ct will be located behind the tenant space, which is at 37 W. Main St. Please let me know if your department has any issues which will need to be addressed before a permit is issued. Also, please copy Scott Work and Jordan Rapp with Peace Water Winery when you send your reply. They are both CC’d on this email. Thanks! Nick Mishler Administrative Assistant Building & Code Services (317) 571-2489 Please consider the environment before printing this email 18 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Scott work <scott@peacewaterwinery.com> Sent:Wednesday, March 04, 2015 4:08 PM To:Conn, Angelina V Cc:Mishler, Nicholas F; Jordan Rapp Subject:Re: Peace Water Patio Great news Angie. Thank you so much for all your help in this process! We are excited to add a much needed improvement to that area. We will definitely send pictures … or you could stop by for a glass of wine sometime! Nick, please advise what we need to do next. Thanks! Scott > On Mar 4, 2015, at 4:02 PM, Conn, Angelina V < Aconn@carmel.in.gov > wrote: > > Good afternoon, Scott - > > The Planning/Zoning Dept. has administratively approved your outdoor patio proposal, as amended, and we will update the Peace Water Winery Plan Commission file (docket no. 14020018 ADLS Amend)! The next step is you working with Nick Mishler in the Carmel Building Permits Dept. to secure any permits and inspections needed. He can be reached at 571-2444 or nmishler@carmel.in.gov . He will guide you through that process. > > Please note that any new sign needs Sign Permit approval, and that application is online at: http://www.carmel.in.gov/modules/showdocument.aspx?documentid=4836 . Please fill that out and submit 2 copies of everything required, to Cat Schoenherr in our office. > > Lastly, did you mention that you were already working with the Carmel Engineering Dept. to get permits and approvals from them, too? Such as the right of way permit and things like that? If so, then you are on the right track, and Nick can fill you in on the details of what that Dept. will require. > > (If you remember, please also email me photos of the finished product!) > > Angie Conn, AICP | Planning Administrator > City of Carmel Dept. of Community Services > 1 Civic Square, 3rd Flr., Carmel, IN 46032 > O: 317-571-2417 | Direct: 317-571-2281 | F: 317-571-2426 | W: www.carmeldocs.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott work [ mailto:scott@peacewaterwinery.com ] > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 3:46 PM > To: Conn, Angelina V > Subject: Peace Water Patio > > Angie - > I hope all is well. Just wanted to follow up to see if we have addressed all the concerns you raised and get direction on next steps. > > Thanks! > > Scott Burton 19 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Conn, Angelina V Sent:Wednesday, March 04, 2015 4:02 PM To:'Scott work' Cc:Mishler, Nicholas F Subject:RE: Peace Water Patio Good afternoon, Scott - The Planning/Zoning Dept. has administratively approved your outdoor patio proposal, as amended, and we will update the Peace Water Winery Plan Commission file (docket no. 14020018 ADLS Amend)! The next step is you working with Nick Mishler in the Carmel Building Permits Dept. to secure any permits and inspections needed. He can be reached at 571-2444 or nmishler@carmel.in.gov . He will guide you through that process. Please note that any new sign needs Sign Permit approval, and that application is online at: http://www.carmel.in.gov/modules/showdocument.aspx?documentid=4836 . Please fill that out and submit 2 copies of everything required, to Cat Schoenherr in our office. Lastly, did you mention that you were already working with the Carmel Engineering Dept. to get permits and approvals from them, too? Such as the right of way permit and things like that? If so, then you are on the right track, and Nick can fill you in on the details of what that Dept. will require. (If you remember, please also email me photos of the finished product!) Angie Conn, AICP | Planning Administrator City of Carmel Dept. of Community Services 1 Civic Square, 3rd Flr., Carmel, IN 46032 O: 317-571-2417 | Direct: 317-571-2281 | F: 317-571-2426 | W: www.carmeldocs.com -----Original Message----- From: Scott work [ mailto:scott@peacewaterwinery.com ] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 3:46 PM To: Conn, Angelina V Subject: Peace Water Patio Angie - I hope all is well. Just wanted to follow up to see if we have addressed all the concerns you raised and get direction on next steps. Thanks! Scott Burton 20 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Peace Water <scott@peacewaterwinery.com> Sent:Tuesday, February 24, 2015 6:33 PM To:Conn, Angelina V Cc:Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F; Ellison, Christopher M Subject:Re: Peace Water Winery Patio Thanks Angie. Looks like we al e close! 1. Yes. Splash logo will replace existing sign. 2. Yes. That will continue to operate as family entrance and the patio will be considered a family area. We have already submitted the plans to that IN Alcohol and Tobacco Commission and they have approved the design. Thanks again for all your assistance. J. Scott Burton Sent from my iPhone On Feb 24, 2015, at 6:21 PM, Conn, Angelina V < Aconn@carmel.in.gov > wrote: Good evening, Scott – The Planning Dept. is close to finalizing our review of this proposal, and I have a few more questions for you: 1. For the proposed splash logo sign, will this sign take the place of the sign that currently hangs above the family door entrance? Or, will it be in addition to? (I think the Sign Ordinance only permits one sign to face the parking lot.) 2. Also, within the proposed patio area, can children and families walk through it (seeing as that rear door entrance is the family access door)? Or, will that be an issue with under age persons walking through a winery patio area? 3. I need to run the proposed design, materials and finishes by the Planning Director, for the final ‘okay’. I will let you know if he has any additional questions (besides item #2, above). Sincerely, Angie Conn, AICP | Planning Administrator From: Scott work [ mailto:scott@peacewaterwinery.com ] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 5:15 PM To: Conn, Angelina V Cc: Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F; Ellison, Christopher M Subject: Re: Peace Water Winery Patio Hmmm … let me know if this works. 21 Angie, please see comments below. I think we have addressed all points that have been raised. Thanks and look forward to learning next steps! 22 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Conn, Angelina V Sent:Tuesday, February 24, 2015 6:21 PM To:'Scott work' Cc:Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F; Ellison, Christopher M Subject:RE: Peace Water Winery Patio Good evening, Scott – The Planning Dept. is close to finalizing our review of this proposal, and I have a few more questions for you: 1. For the proposed splash logo sign, will this sign take the place of the sign that currently hangs above the family door entrance? Or, will it be in addition to? (I think the Sign Ordinance only permits one sign to face the parking lot.) 2. Also, within the proposed patio area, can children and families walk through it (seeing as that rear door entrance is the family access door)? Or, will that be an issue with under age persons walking through a winery patio area? 3. I need to run the proposed design, materials and finishes by the Planning Director, for the final ‘okay’. I will let you know if he has any additional questions (besides item #2, above). Sincerely, Angie Conn, AICP | Planning Administrator From: Scott work [mailto:scott@peacewaterwinery.com] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 5:15 PM To: Conn, Angelina V Cc: Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F; Ellison, Christopher M Subject: Re: Peace Water Winery Patio Hmmm … let me know if this works. Angie, please see comments below. I think we have addressed all points that have been raised. Thanks and look forward to learning next steps! 23 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Conn, Angelina V Sent:Friday, February 20, 2015 5:21 PM To:'Scott work' Cc:Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F; Ellison, Christopher M Subject:RE: Peace Water Winery Patio Scott – Ok, it works. The text is attached as an .htm file, but that is okay; we can view it in internet explorer. I will review your responses early next week, and will get back with you. Thanks, and have a nice weekend. Angie Conn, AICP | Planning Administrator From: Scott work [mailto:scott@peacewaterwinery.com] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 5:15 PM To: Conn, Angelina V Cc: Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F; Ellison, Christopher M Subject: Re: Peace Water Winery Patio Hmmm … let me know if this works. Angie, please see comments below. I think we have addressed all points that have been raised. Thanks and look forward to learning next steps! 24 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Scott work <scott@peacewaterwinery.com> Sent:Friday, February 20, 2015 5:15 PM To:Conn, Angelina V Cc:Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F; Ellison, Christopher M Subject:Re: Peace Water Winery Patio Hmmm … let me know if this works. Angie, please see comments below. I think we have addressed all points that have been raised. Thanks and look forward to learning next steps! 25 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Conn, Angelina V Sent:Friday, February 20, 2015 4:52 PM To:'Scott work' Cc:Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F; Ellison, Christopher M Subject:RE: Peace Water Winery Patio Hi, Scott- There is only the pdf. There are no ‘comments below’… Please re-send and add in that text. Thank you. Angie Conn, AICP | Planning Administrator From: Scott work [mailto:scott@peacewaterwinery.com] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 4:41 PM To: Conn, Angelina V Cc: Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F; Ellison, Christopher M Subject: Re: Peace Water Winery Patio Angie, please see comments below. I think we have addressed all points that have been raised. Thanks and look forward to learning next steps! 26 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Scott work <scott@peacewaterwinery.com> Sent:Friday, February 20, 2015 4:41 PM To:Conn, Angelina V Cc:Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F; Ellison, Christopher M Subject:Re: Peace Water Winery Patio Angie, please see comments below. I think we have addressed all points that have been raised. Thanks and look forward to learning next steps! 27 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Scott work <scott@peacewaterwinery.com> Sent:Friday, February 20, 2015 4:39 PM To:Conn, Angelina V Cc:Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F; Ellison, Christopher M Subject:Re: Peace Water Winery Patio Angie, please see comments below. I think we have addressed all points that have been raised. Thanks and look forward to learning next steps! 28 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Peace Water <scott@peacewaterwinery.com> Sent:Thursday, February 19, 2015 5:18 PM To:Conn, Angelina V Cc:Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F Subject:Re: Peace Water Winery Patio Ok great! We were obviously hoping that was the case! We will move forward and address your remaining comments asap. Thank you, J. Scott Burton Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2015, at 5:06 PM, Conn, Angelina V < Aconn@carmel.in.gov > wrote: Good evening, Scott – Thank you for responding to review comment # 11. You are correct that the plan you submitted in 2014 did show a rear exit/entrance to the building. And yes, you are also correct that most all businesses in this multi-tenant building have a 2 nd , rear entrance from the parking lot. Since this building (and the entrances) has existed before the creation of the Old Town Overlay Zone regulations, these rear entrances are considered “grandfathered”. Please proceed with responding to the rest of our review comments. Angie Conn, AICP | Planning Administrator From: Scott work [ mailto:scott@peacewaterwinery.com ] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 12:32 PM To: Conn, Angelina V Cc: Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F Subject: Re: Peace Water Winery Patio Thank you Angie. We will get to work on your comments and revisions. However, before we do that it seems one item you identified could nullify the entire project. I want to be sure we address that first. Specifically, #11 below where you cite “No rear entrances are allowed except for residential or office uses, emergency exits, employees, loading and trash removal.” The plan we submitted and that was approved last year included a rear customer entrance. In fact, every single business in our block of our Main St. has rear customer entrances. That entrance is very important to our business for parking area access and we certainly do not want to lose that. Please let me know if the comments indicate we will no longer be allowed to use that rear entrance for customers if we proceed with a patio. Thanks! 29 Scott On Feb 18, 2015, at 11:35 AM, Conn, Angelina V < Aconn@carmel.in.gov > wrote: Good morning, Scott - Below is a list of review comments that the Planning/Zoning Dept. has for you, based off of the pdf that you emailed me on February 11. Please address these as soon as you can. Thank you. 1. The site plan does not show the proposed barn door on the south side of the patio. Please add it. 2. Please submit a property survey of this parcel, done by a land surveyor or engineering firm. We need to make sure that the property lines you show are correct. 3. The depth of the parking spaces should be closer to 18-ft or 20-ft. Please shorten the depth of the patio area in order to accommodate those. 4. Please submit the design details for how the top of the wood privacy wall is capped off. 5. Please submit the design details for how the top of the gabion wall is trimmed out and capped off. 6. What is the maximum height of the peak of the corrugated metal roof? 7. Staff has concerns about the height of the 8-ft privacy fence and the 6’6” wall – can they be made shorter in height? 8. What is the thickness of the gabion wall with natural stone fill? 9. Please provide more details about the gabion wall with natural stone fill and how it holds up over time. Staff has concern that, over time, loose stones will seep out and encroach into the parking areas. 10. Is there any signage proposed on the exterior of this patio area? If so, please provide the details of that 11. The Main Street Sub-Area regulations of the Old Town Overlay Zone chapter of the Zoning Ordinance do not allow for a rear entrance to this type of land use. It states: “ No rear entrances are allowed except for residential or office uses, emergency exits, employees, loading and trash removal.” (Source/: http://www.carmel.in.gov/Modules/ShowDocument.aspx? documentid=5260 ) Please address this. 12. The Carmel Fire Dept. has concerns with the egress points, based off email correspondence I had with them last night. Per chapter 10 of the Indiana fire code sliding barn doors are not acceptable in a required means of egress, either primary or secondary. Based off the proposed occupant load being over 49, a second means of egress is required from the patio area. With this requirement known, a sliding door at the primary and secondary required means of egress would not be permitted. Please continue to work with Captain Chris Ellison at the Carmel Fire Dept. to get these concerns addressed. Angie Conn, AICP | Planning Administrator City of Carmel Dept. of Community Services 1 Civic Square, 3rd Flr., Carmel, IN 46032 30 O: 317-571-2417 | Direct: 317-571-2281 | F: 317-571-2426 | W: www.carmeldocs.com -----Original Message----- From: Scott work [ mailto:scott@peacewaterwinery.com ] Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 4:17 PM To: Conn, Angelina V Cc: Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F Subject: Re: Peace Water Winery Patio Angie - The additional information you requested is attached. Please note … the trash and utility enclosure already exists, we are just changing the existing vinyl fence planks to match the wood fence we are using to enclose patio. We have also noted the floor as stained concrete although as mentioned that may be natural concrete. Let us know if this what you are looking for and next steps. Thanks! Scott 31 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Conn, Angelina V Sent:Thursday, February 19, 2015 5:06 PM To:'Scott work' Cc:Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F Subject:RE: Peace Water Winery Patio Good evening, Scott – Thank you for responding to review comment # 11. You are correct that the plan you submitted in 2014 did show a rear exit/entrance to the building. And yes, you are also correct that most all businesses in this multi-tenant building have a 2nd , rear entrance from the parking lot. Since this building (and the entrances) has existed before the creation of the Old Town Overlay Zone regulations, these rear entrances are considered “grandfathered”. Please proceed with responding to the rest of our review comments. Angie Conn, AICP | Planning Administrator From: Scott work [mailto:scott@peacewaterwinery.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 12:32 PM To: Conn, Angelina V Cc: Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F Subject: Re: Peace Water Winery Patio Thank you Angie. We will get to work on your comments and revisions. However, before we do that it seems one item you identified could nullify the entire project. I want to be sure we address that first. Specifically, #11 below where you cite “No rear entrances are allowed except for residential or office uses, emergency exits, employees, loading and trash removal.” The plan we submitted and that was approved last year included a rear customer entrance. In fact, every single business in our block of our Main St. has rear customer entrances. That entrance is very important to our business for parking area access and we certainly do not want to lose that. Please let me know if the comments indicate we will no longer be allowed to use that rear entrance for customers if we proceed with a patio. Thanks! Scott On Feb 18, 2015, at 11:35 AM, Conn, Angelina V < Aconn@carmel.in.gov > wrote: Good morning, Scott - Below is a list of review comments that the Planning/Zoning Dept. has for you, based off of the pdf that you emailed me on February 11. Please address these as soon as you can. Thank you. 1. The site plan does not show the proposed barn door on the south side of the patio. Please add it. 2. Please submit a property survey of this parcel, done by a land surveyor or engineering firm. We need to make sure that the property lines you show are correct. 3. The depth of the parking spaces should be closer to 18-ft or 20-ft. Please shorten the depth of the patio area in order to accommodate those. 32 4. Please submit the design details for how the top of the wood privacy wall is capped off. 5. Please submit the design details for how the top of the gabion wall is trimmed out and capped off. 6. What is the maximum height of the peak of the corrugated metal roof? 7. Staff has concerns about the height of the 8-ft privacy fence and the 6’6” wall – can they be made shorter in height? 8. What is the thickness of the gabion wall with natural stone fill? 9. Please provide more details about the gabion wall with natural stone fill and how it holds up over time. Staff has concern that, over time, loose stones will seep out and encroach into the parking areas. 10. Is there any signage proposed on the exterior of this patio area? If so, please provide the details of that 11. The Main Street Sub-Area regulations of the Old Town Overlay Zone chapter of the Zoning Ordinance do not allow for a rear entrance to this type of land use. It states: “ No rear entrances are allowed except for residential or office uses, emergency exits, employees, loading and trash removal.” (Source/: http://www.carmel.in.gov/Modules/ShowDocument.aspx?documentid=52 60 ) Please address this. 12. The Carmel Fire Dept. has concerns with the egress points, based off email correspondence I had with them last night. Per chapter 10 of the Indiana fire code sliding barn doors are not acceptable in a required means of egress, either primary or secondary. Based off the proposed occupant load being over 49, a second means of egress is required from the patio area. With this requirement known, a sliding door at the primary and secondary required means of egress would not be permitted. Please continue to work with Captain Chris Ellison at the Carmel Fire Dept. to get these concerns addressed. Angie Conn, AICP | Planning Administrator City of Carmel Dept. of Community Services 1 Civic Square, 3rd Flr., Carmel, IN 46032 O: 317-571-2417 | Direct: 317-571-2281 | F: 317-571-2426 | W: www.carmeldocs.com -----Original Message----- From: Scott work [ mailto:scott@peacewaterwinery.com ] Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 4:17 PM To: Conn, Angelina V Cc: Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F Subject: Re: Peace Water Winery Patio Angie - The additional information you requested is attached. Please note … the trash and utility enclosure already exists, we are just changing the existing vinyl fence planks to match the wood fence we are using to enclose patio. We have also noted the floor as stained concrete although as mentioned that may be natural concrete. Let us know if this what you are looking for and next steps. Thanks! 33 Scott 34 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Peace Water <scott@peacewaterwinery.com> Sent:Wednesday, February 18, 2015 12:46 PM To:Conn, Angelina V Cc:Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F Subject:Re: Peace Water Winery Patio Great. Thank you. J. Scott Burton Sent from my iPhone On Feb 18, 2015, at 12:39 PM, Conn, Angelina V < Aconn@carmel.in.gov > wrote: Hi, Scott – I seem to recall this coming up with the prior review of the winery tenant space, during the ADLS Amendment petition approval process (docket no. 14020018). I will review that file and see how that ordinance standard was interpreted back then. I will get back with you, soon. Angie Conn, AICP | Planning Administrator From: Scott work [ mailto:scott@peacewaterwinery.com ] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 12:32 PM To: Conn, Angelina V Cc: Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F Subject: Re: Peace Water Winery Patio Thank you Angie. We will get to work on your comments and revisions. However, before we do that it seems one item you identified could nullify the entire project. I want to be sure we address that first. Specifically, #11 below where you cite “No rear entrances are allowed except for residential or office uses, emergency exits, employees, loading and trash removal.” The plan we submitted and that was approved last year included a rear customer entrance. In fact, every single business in our block of our Main St. has rear customer entrances. That entrance is very important to our business for parking area access and we certainly do not want to lose that. Please let me know if the comments indicate we will no longer be allowed to use that rear entrance for customers if we proceed with a patio. Thanks! Scott On Feb 18, 2015, at 11:35 AM, Conn, Angelina V < Aconn@carmel.in.gov > wrote: Good morning, Scott - 35 Below is a list of review comments that the Planning/Zoning Dept. has for you, based off of the pdf that you emailed me on February 11. Please address these as soon as you can. Thank you. 1. The site plan does not show the proposed barn door on the south side of the patio. Please add it. 2. Please submit a property survey of this parcel, done by a land surveyor or engineering firm. We need to make sure that the property lines you show are correct. 3. The depth of the parking spaces should be closer to 18-ft or 20-ft. Please shorten the depth of the patio area in order to accommodate those. 4. Please submit the design details for how the top of the wood privacy wall is capped off. 5. Please submit the design details for how the top of the gabion wall is trimmed out and capped off. 6. What is the maximum height of the peak of the corrugated metal roof? 7. Staff has concerns about the height of the 8-ft privacy fence and the 6’6” wall – can they be made shorter in height? 8. What is the thickness of the gabion wall with natural stone fill? 9. Please provide more details about the gabion wall with natural stone fill and how it holds up over time. Staff has concern that, over time, loose stones will seep out and encroach into the parking areas. 10. Is there any signage proposed on the exterior of this patio area? If so, please provide the details of that 11. The Main Street Sub-Area regulations of the Old Town Overlay Zone chapter of the Zoning Ordinance do not allow for a rear entrance to this type of land use. It states: “ No rear entrances are allowed except for residential or office uses, emergency exits, employees, loading and trash removal.” (Source/: http://www.carmel.in.gov/Modules/ShowDocument.aspx? documentid=5260 ) Please address this. 12. The Carmel Fire Dept. has concerns with the egress points, based off email correspondence I had with them last night. Per chapter 10 of the Indiana fire code sliding barn doors are not acceptable in a required means of egress, either primary or secondary. Based off the proposed occupant load being over 49, a second means of egress is required from the patio area. With this requirement known, a sliding door at the primary and secondary required means of egress would not be permitted. Please continue to work with Captain Chris Ellison at the Carmel Fire Dept. to get these concerns addressed. Angie Conn, AICP | Planning Administrator City of Carmel Dept. of Community Services 1 Civic Square, 3rd Flr., Carmel, IN 46032 O: 317-571-2417 | Direct: 317-571-2281 | F: 317-571-2426 | W: www.carmeldocs.com -----Original Message----- From: Scott work [ mailto:scott@peacewaterwinery.com ] 36 Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 4:17 PM To: Conn, Angelina V Cc: Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F Subject: Re: Peace Water Winery Patio Angie - The additional information you requested is attached. Please note … the trash and utility enclosure already exists, we are just changing the existing vinyl fence planks to match the wood fence we are using to enclose patio. We have also noted the floor as stained concrete although as mentioned that may be natural concrete. Let us know if this what you are looking for and next steps. Thanks! Scott 37 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Conn, Angelina V Sent:Wednesday, February 18, 2015 12:39 PM To:'Scott work' Cc:Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F Subject:RE: Peace Water Winery Patio Hi, Scott – I seem to recall this coming up with the prior review of the winery tenant space, during the ADLS Amendment petition approval process (docket no. 14020018). I will review that file and see how that ordinance standard was interpreted back then. I will get back with you, soon. Angie Conn, AICP | Planning Administrator From: Scott work [mailto:scott@peacewaterwinery.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 12:32 PM To: Conn, Angelina V Cc: Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F Subject: Re: Peace Water Winery Patio Thank you Angie. We will get to work on your comments and revisions. However, before we do that it seems one item you identified could nullify the entire project. I want to be sure we address that first. Specifically, #11 below where you cite “No rear entrances are allowed except for residential or office uses, emergency exits, employees, loading and trash removal.” The plan we submitted and that was approved last year included a rear customer entrance. In fact, every single business in our block of our Main St. has rear customer entrances. That entrance is very important to our business for parking area access and we certainly do not want to lose that. Please let me know if the comments indicate we will no longer be allowed to use that rear entrance for customers if we proceed with a patio. Thanks! Scott On Feb 18, 2015, at 11:35 AM, Conn, Angelina V < Aconn@carmel.in.gov > wrote: Good morning, Scott - Below is a list of review comments that the Planning/Zoning Dept. has for you, based off of the pdf that you emailed me on February 11. Please address these as soon as you can. Thank you. 1. The site plan does not show the proposed barn door on the south side of the patio. Please add it. 2. Please submit a property survey of this parcel, done by a land surveyor or engineering firm. We need to make sure that the property lines you show are correct. 3. The depth of the parking spaces should be closer to 18-ft or 20-ft. Please shorten the depth of the patio area in order to accommodate those. 4. Please submit the design details for how the top of the wood privacy wall is capped off. 38 5. Please submit the design details for how the top of the gabion wall is trimmed out and capped off. 6. What is the maximum height of the peak of the corrugated metal roof? 7. Staff has concerns about the height of the 8-ft privacy fence and the 6’6” wall – can they be made shorter in height? 8. What is the thickness of the gabion wall with natural stone fill? 9. Please provide more details about the gabion wall with natural stone fill and how it holds up over time. Staff has concern that, over time, loose stones will seep out and encroach into the parking areas. 10. Is there any signage proposed on the exterior of this patio area? If so, please provide the details of that 11. The Main Street Sub-Area regulations of the Old Town Overlay Zone chapter of the Zoning Ordinance do not allow for a rear entrance to this type of land use. It states: “ No rear entrances are allowed except for residential or office uses, emergency exits, employees, loading and trash removal.” (Source/: http://www.carmel.in.gov/Modules/ShowDocument.aspx?documentid=52 60 ) Please address this. 12. The Carmel Fire Dept. has concerns with the egress points, based off email correspondence I had with them last night. Per chapter 10 of the Indiana fire code sliding barn doors are not acceptable in a required means of egress, either primary or secondary. Based off the proposed occupant load being over 49, a second means of egress is required from the patio area. With this requirement known, a sliding door at the primary and secondary required means of egress would not be permitted. Please continue to work with Captain Chris Ellison at the Carmel Fire Dept. to get these concerns addressed. Angie Conn, AICP | Planning Administrator City of Carmel Dept. of Community Services 1 Civic Square, 3rd Flr., Carmel, IN 46032 O: 317-571-2417 | Direct: 317-571-2281 | F: 317-571-2426 | W: www.carmeldocs.com -----Original Message----- From: Scott work [ mailto:scott@peacewaterwinery.com ] Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 4:17 PM To: Conn, Angelina V Cc: Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F Subject: Re: Peace Water Winery Patio Angie - The additional information you requested is attached. Please note … the trash and utility enclosure already exists, we are just changing the existing vinyl fence planks to match the wood fence we are using to enclose patio. We have also noted the floor as stained concrete although as mentioned that may be natural concrete. Let us know if this what you are looking for and next steps. Thanks! Scott 39 40 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Scott work <scott@peacewaterwinery.com> Sent:Wednesday, February 18, 2015 12:32 PM To:Conn, Angelina V Cc:Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F Subject:Re: Peace Water Winery Patio Thank you Angie. We will get to work on your comments and revisions. However, before we do that it seems one item you identified could nullify the entire project. I want to be sure we address that first. Specifically, #11 below where you cite “No rear entrances are allowed except for residential or office uses, emergency exits, employees, loading and trash removal.” The plan we submitted and that was approved last year included a rear customer entrance. In fact, every single business in our block of our Main St. has rear customer entrances. That entrance is very important to our business for parking area access and we certainly do not want to lose that. Please let me know if the comments indicate we will no longer be allowed to use that rear entrance for customers if we proceed with a patio. Thanks! Scott On Feb 18, 2015, at 11:35 AM, Conn, Angelina V < Aconn@carmel.in.gov > wrote: Good morning, Scott - Below is a list of review comments that the Planning/Zoning Dept. has for you, based off of the pdf that you emailed me on February 11. Please address these as soon as you can. Thank you. 1. The site plan does not show the proposed barn door on the south side of the patio. Please add it. 2. Please submit a property survey of this parcel, done by a land surveyor or engineering firm. We need to make sure that the property lines you show are correct. 3. The depth of the parking spaces should be closer to 18-ft or 20-ft. Please shorten the depth of the patio area in order to accommodate those. 4. Please submit the design details for how the top of the wood privacy wall is capped off. 5. Please submit the design details for how the top of the gabion wall is trimmed out and capped off. 6. What is the maximum height of the peak of the corrugated metal roof? 7. Staff has concerns about the height of the 8-ft privacy fence and the 6’6” wall – can they be made shorter in height? 8. What is the thickness of the gabion wall with natural stone fill? 9. Please provide more details about the gabion wall with natural stone fill and how it holds up over time. Staff has concern that, over time, loose stones will seep out and encroach into the parking areas. 10. Is there any signage proposed on the exterior of this patio area? If so, please provide the details of that 41 11. The Main Street Sub-Area regulations of the Old Town Overlay Zone chapter of the Zoning Ordinance do not allow for a rear entrance to this type of land use. It states: “ No rear entrances are allowed except for residential or office uses, emergency exits, employees, loading and trash removal.” (Source/: http://www.carmel.in.gov/Modules/ShowDocument.aspx?documentid=52 60 ) Please address this. 12. The Carmel Fire Dept. has concerns with the egress points, based off email correspondence I had with them last night. Per chapter 10 of the Indiana fire code sliding barn doors are not acceptable in a required means of egress, either primary or secondary. Based off the proposed occupant load being over 49, a second means of egress is required from the patio area. With this requirement known, a sliding door at the primary and secondary required means of egress would not be permitted. Please continue to work with Captain Chris Ellison at the Carmel Fire Dept. to get these concerns addressed. Angie Conn, AICP | Planning Administrator City of Carmel Dept. of Community Services 1 Civic Square, 3rd Flr., Carmel, IN 46032 O: 317-571-2417 | Direct: 317-571-2281 | F: 317-571-2426 | W: www.carmeldocs.com -----Original Message----- From: Scott work [ mailto:scott@peacewaterwinery.com ] Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 4:17 PM To: Conn, Angelina V Cc: Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F Subject: Re: Peace Water Winery Patio Angie - The additional information you requested is attached. Please note … the trash and utility enclosure already exists, we are just changing the existing vinyl fence planks to match the wood fence we are using to enclose patio. We have also noted the floor as stained concrete although as mentioned that may be natural concrete. Let us know if this what you are looking for and next steps. Thanks! Scott 42 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Conn, Angelina V Sent:Wednesday, February 18, 2015 12:08 PM To:Ellison, Christopher M Cc:Knott, Bruce; Mishler, Nicholas F Subject:RE: Peace Water Winery Patio Thank you, Chris (and Bruce) - In my review comments email to him, I asked Scott Burton to continue working with your Department on these fire code items. I emailed him a short list of what the requirements are, too, so he knows, generally, what will be expected of him to comply. I did forget to let him know about the exit sign and panic hardware, though, so please remind him of that when he contacts you. Thank you, Angie Conn, AICP | Planning Administrator City of Carmel Dept. of Community Services 1 Civic Square, 3rd Flr., Carmel, IN 46032 O: 317-571-2417 | Direct: 317-571-2281 | F: 317-571-2426 | W: www.carmeldocs.com -----Original Message----- From: Ellison, Christopher M Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 7:01 PM To: Knott, Bruce Cc: Conn, Angelina V; Mishler, Nicholas F; Keesling, Rachel M Subject: Re: Peace Water Winery Patio Based on some preliminary occupant load numbers that I ran for this proposal several weeks ago, the occupant load was over 49 and a second means of egress is required from the patio area. With this requirement known, a sliding door at the primary and secondary required means of egress would not be permitted. Chris Ellison Carmel Fire Dept. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 17, 2015, at 6:33 PM, Knott, Bruce <BKnott@carmel.in.gov> wrote: > > I believe the exit from the space to the patio is part of the required egress. The exit straight out from this door would have to be an normal egress door with an exit sign and panic hardware if the inside capacity is above 49. > The side door could be a sliding type but I am not aware of any allowance in the code for the sliding door as a required egress. > Also this now looks like an enclosure instead of a patio. Nick does this require more approval? > > Bruce Knott > > >> On Feb 17, 2015, at 5:49 PM, "Conn, Angelina V" <Aconn@carmel.in.gov> wrote: >> >> Good evening, Chris - >> Please see the attached, latest version of the outdoor patio that Scott has emailed me, for 37 W Main Street. Please note the sliding barn doors proposed. The main one will remain open during business hours, and the secondary barn door will be closed, but will remain unlocked during business hours. From a safety standpoint, are you okay with what they propose? >> >> Angie Conn, AICP | Planning Administrator City of Carmel Dept. of >> Community Services >> 1 Civic Square, 3rd Flr., Carmel, IN 46032 >> O: 317-571-2417 | Direct: 317-571-2281 | F: 317-571-2426 | W: www.carmeldocs.com 43 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Scott work [ mailto:scott@peacewaterwinery.com ] >> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 4:17 PM >> To: Conn, Angelina V >> Cc: Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F >> Subject: Re: Peace Water Winery Patio >> >> Angie - >> >> The additional information you requested is attached. Please note … the trash and utility enclosure already exists, we are just changing the existing vinyl fence planks to match the wood fence we are using to enclose patio. We have also noted the floor as stained concrete although as mentioned that may be natural concrete. >> >> Let us know if this what you are looking for and next steps. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Scott >> <PWW_Updated Patio Plans.pdf> 44 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Conn, Angelina V Sent:Wednesday, February 18, 2015 11:36 AM To:'Scott work' Cc:Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F Subject:RE: Peace Water Winery Patio Good morning, Scott - Below is a list of review comments that the Planning/Zoning Dept. has for you, based off of the pdf that you emailed me on February 11. Please address these as soon as you can. Thank you. 1. The site plan does not show the proposed barn door on the south side of the patio. Please add it. 2. Please submit a property survey of this parcel, done by a land surveyor or engineering firm. We need to make sure that the property lines you show are correct. 3. The depth of the parking spaces should be closer to 18-ft or 20-ft. Please shorten the depth of the patio area in order to accommodate those. 4. Please submit the design details for how the top of the wood privacy wall is capped off. 5. Please submit the design details for how the top of the gabion wall is trimmed out and capped off. 6. What is the maximum height of the peak of the corrugated metal roof? 7. Staff has concerns about the height of the 8-ft privacy fence and the 6’6” wall – can they be made shorter in height? 8. What is the thickness of the gabion wall with natural stone fill? 9. Please provide more details about the gabion wall with natural stone fill and how it holds up over time. Staff has concern that, over time, loose stones will seep out and encroach into the parking areas. 10. Is there any signage proposed on the exterior of this patio area? If so, please provide the details of that 11. The Main Street Sub-Area regulations of the Old Town Overlay Zone chapter of the Zoning Ordinance do not allow for a rear entrance to this type of land use. It states: “ No rear entrances are allowed except for residential or office uses, emergency exits, employees, loading and trash removal.” (Source/: http://www.carmel.in.gov/Modules/ShowDocument.aspx?documentid=5260 ) Please address this. 12. The Carmel Fire Dept. has concerns with the egress points, based off email correspondence I had with them last night. Per chapter 10 of the Indiana fire code sliding barn doors are not acceptable in a required means of egress, either primary or secondary. Based off the proposed occupant load being over 49, a second means of egress is required from the patio area. With this requirement known, a sliding door at the primary and secondary required means of egress would not be permitted. Please continue to work with Captain Chris Ellison at the Carmel Fire Dept. to get these concerns addressed. Angie Conn, AICP | Planning Administrator City of Carmel Dept. of Community Services 1 Civic Square, 3rd Flr., Carmel, IN 46032 O: 317-571-2417 | Direct: 317-571-2281 | F: 317-571-2426 | W: www.carmeldocs.com -----Original Message----- From: Scott work [mailto:scott@peacewaterwinery.com] 45 Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 4:17 PM To: Conn, Angelina V Cc: Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F Subject: Re: Peace Water Winery Patio Angie - The additional information you requested is attached. Please note … the trash and utility enclosure already exists, we are just changing the existing vinyl fence planks to match the wood fence we are using to enclose patio. We have also noted the floor as stained concrete although as mentioned that may be natural concrete. Let us know if this what you are looking for and next steps. Thanks! Scott 46 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Ellison, Christopher M Sent:Tuesday, February 17, 2015 7:01 PM To:Knott, Bruce Cc:Conn, Angelina V; Mishler, Nicholas F; Keesling, Rachel M Subject:Re: Peace Water Winery Patio Based on some preliminary occupant load numbers that I ran for this proposal several weeks ago, the occupant load was over 49 and a second means of egress is required from the patio area. With this requirement known, a sliding door at the primary and secondary required means of egress would not be permitted. Chris Ellison Carmel Fire Dept. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 17, 2015, at 6:33 PM, Knott, Bruce <BKnott@carmel.in.gov> wrote: > > I believe the exit from the space to the patio is part of the required egress. The exit straight out from this door would have to be an normal egress door with an exit sign and panic hardware if the inside capacity is above 49. > The side door could be a sliding type but I am not aware of any allowance in the code for the sliding door as a required egress. > Also this now looks like an enclosure instead of a patio. Nick does this require more approval? > > Bruce Knott > > >> On Feb 17, 2015, at 5:49 PM, "Conn, Angelina V" <Aconn@carmel.in.gov> wrote: >> >> Good evening, Chris - >> Please see the attached, latest version of the outdoor patio that Scott has emailed me, for 37 W Main Street. Please note the sliding barn doors proposed. The main one will remain open during business hours, and the secondary barn door will be closed, but will remain unlocked during business hours. From a safety standpoint, are you okay with what they propose? >> >> Angie Conn, AICP | Planning Administrator >> City of Carmel Dept. of Community Services >> 1 Civic Square, 3rd Flr., Carmel, IN 46032 >> O: 317-571-2417 | Direct: 317-571-2281 | F: 317-571-2426 | W: www.carmeldocs.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Scott work [ mailto:scott@peacewaterwinery.com ] >> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 4:17 PM >> To: Conn, Angelina V >> Cc: Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F >> Subject: Re: Peace Water Winery Patio >> >> Angie - >> >> The additional information you requested is attached. Please note … the trash and utility enclosure already exists, we are just changing the existing vinyl fence planks to match the wood fence we are using to enclose patio. We have also noted the floor as stained concrete although as mentioned that may be natural concrete. >> >> Let us know if this what you are looking for and next steps. >> >> Thanks! >> 47 >> Scott >> <PWW_Updated Patio Plans.pdf> 48 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Knott, Bruce Sent:Tuesday, February 17, 2015 6:34 PM To:Conn, Angelina V Cc:Ellison, Christopher M; Mishler, Nicholas F; Keesling, Rachel M Subject:Re: Peace Water Winery Patio I believe the exit from the space to the patio is part of the required egress. The exit straight out from this door would have to be an normal egress door with an exit sign and panic hardware if the inside capacity is above 49. The side door could be a sliding type but I am not aware of any allowance in the code for the sliding door as a required egress. Also this now looks like an enclosure instead of a patio. Nick does this require more approval? Bruce Knott > On Feb 17, 2015, at 5:49 PM, "Conn, Angelina V" <Aconn@carmel.in.gov> wrote: > > Good evening, Chris - > Please see the attached, latest version of the outdoor patio that Scott has emailed me, for 37 W Main Street. Please note the sliding barn doors proposed. The main one will remain open during business hours, and the secondary barn door will be closed, but will remain unlocked during business hours. From a safety standpoint, are you okay with what they propose? > > Angie Conn, AICP | Planning Administrator > City of Carmel Dept. of Community Services > 1 Civic Square, 3rd Flr., Carmel, IN 46032 > O: 317-571-2417 | Direct: 317-571-2281 | F: 317-571-2426 | W: www.carmeldocs.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott work [ mailto:scott@peacewaterwinery.com ] > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 4:17 PM > To: Conn, Angelina V > Cc: Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F > Subject: Re: Peace Water Winery Patio > > Angie - > > The additional information you requested is attached. Please note … the trash and utility enclosure already exists, we are just changing the existing vinyl fence planks to match the wood fence we are using to enclose patio. We have also noted the floor as stained concrete although as mentioned that may be natural concrete. > > Let us know if this what you are looking for and next steps. > > Thanks! > > Scott > <PWW_Updated Patio Plans.pdf> 49 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Ellison, Christopher M Sent:Tuesday, February 17, 2015 6:31 PM To:Conn, Angelina V Cc:Knott, Bruce; Mishler, Nicholas F; Keesling, Rachel M; Ellison, Christopher M Subject:Re: Peace Water Winery Patio Per chapter 10 of the Indiana firecode sliding barn doors are not acceptable in a required means of egress, either primary or secondary. What is the intended use for this area? It is beginning to take the shape of an assembly area. Originally when this project was filed last year I believe it was listed as a M (mercantile) occupancy. Nick can you Look at the original plans and verify that? This new proposal appears to be developing into more than just a patio area, is getting close to an enclosed building? Chris Ellison Carmel Fire Dept. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 17, 2015, at 5:49 PM, Conn, Angelina V <Aconn@carmel.in.gov> wrote: > > Good evening, Chris - > Please see the attached, latest version of the outdoor patio that Scott has emailed me, for 37 W Main Street. Please note the sliding barn doors proposed. The main one will remain open during business hours, and the secondary barn door will be closed, but will remain unlocked during business hours. From a safety standpoint, are you okay with what they propose? > > Angie Conn, AICP | Planning Administrator > City of Carmel Dept. of Community Services > 1 Civic Square, 3rd Flr., Carmel, IN 46032 > O: 317-571-2417 | Direct: 317-571-2281 | F: 317-571-2426 | W: www.carmeldocs.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott work [ mailto:scott@peacewaterwinery.com ] > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 4:17 PM > To: Conn, Angelina V > Cc: Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F > Subject: Re: Peace Water Winery Patio > > Angie - > > The additional information you requested is attached. Please note … the trash and utility enclosure already exists, we are just changing the existing vinyl fence planks to match the wood fence we are using to enclose patio. We have also noted the floor as stained concrete although as mentioned that may be natural concrete. > > Let us know if this what you are looking for and next steps. > > Thanks! > > Scott > <PWW_Updated Patio Plans.pdf> 50 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Conn, Angelina V Sent:Tuesday, February 17, 2015 5:49 PM To:Ellison, Christopher M Cc:Knott, Bruce; Mishler, Nicholas F; Keesling, Rachel M Subject:FW: Peace Water Winery Patio Good evening, Chris - Please see the attached, latest version of the outdoor patio that Scott has emailed me, for 37 W Main Street. Please note the sliding barn doors proposed. The main one will remain open during business hours, and the secondary barn door will be closed, but will remain unlocked during business hours. From a safety standpoint, are you okay with what they propose? Angie Conn, AICP | Planning Administrator City of Carmel Dept. of Community Services 1 Civic Square, 3rd Flr., Carmel, IN 46032 O: 317-571-2417 | Direct: 317-571-2281 | F: 317-571-2426 | W: www.carmeldocs.com -----Original Message----- From: Scott work [ mailto:scott@peacewaterwinery.com ] Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 4:17 PM To: Conn, Angelina V Cc: Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F Subject: Re: Peace Water Winery Patio Angie - The additional information you requested is attached. Please note … the trash and utili ty enclosure already exists, we are just changing the existing vinyl fence planks to match the wood fence we are using to enclose patio. We have also noted the floor as staine d concrete although as mentioned that may be natural concrete. Let us know if this what you are looking for and next steps. Thanks! Scott 51 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Scott work <scott@peacewaterwinery.com> Sent:Tuesday, February 17, 2015 4:43 PM To:Conn, Angelina V Cc:Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F Subject:Re: Peace Water Winery Patio Great. I was concerned. We had to condense it several times and I am not the most tech savvy guy around so wanted to be sure it got there. Thanks again for your help! Scott > On Feb 17, 2015, at 4:31 PM, Conn, Angelina V <Aconn@carmel.in.gov> wrote: > > Good afternoon, Scott - > I received your voicemail message. Yes, I did get your last email with the large file attached, and I plan on reviewing it this evening. I will email you back very soon, and let you know if we have any additional questions or review comments. > > Thank you! > > Angie Conn, AICP | Planning Administrator > City of Carmel Dept. of Community Services > 1 Civic Square, 3rd Flr., Carmel, IN 46032 > O: 317-571-2417 | Direct: 317-571-2281 | F: 317-571-2426 | W: www.carmeldocs.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott work [ mailto:scott@peacewaterwinery.com ] > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 4:17 PM > To: Conn, Angelina V > Cc: Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F > Subject: Re: Peace Water Winery Patio > > Angie - > > The additional information you requested is attached. Please note … the trash and utility enclosure already exists, we are just changing the existing vinyl fence planks to match the wood fence we are using to enclose patio. We have also noted the floor as stained concrete although as mentioned that may be natural concrete. > > Let us know if this what you are looking for and next steps. > > Thanks! > > Scott 52 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Conn, Angelina V Sent:Tuesday, February 17, 2015 4:32 PM To:'Scott work' Cc:Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F Subject:RE: Peace Water Winery Patio Good afternoon, Scott - I received your voicemail message. Yes, I did get your last email with the large file attached, and I plan on reviewing it this evening. I will email you back very soon, and let you know if we have any additional questions or review comments. Thank you! Angie Conn, AICP | Planning Administrator City of Carmel Dept. of Community Services 1 Civic Square, 3rd Flr., Carmel, IN 46032 O: 317-571-2417 | Direct: 317-571-2281 | F: 317-571-2426 | W: www.carmeldocs.com -----Original Message----- From: Scott work [ mailto:scott@peacewaterwinery.com ] Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 4:17 PM To: Conn, Angelina V Cc: Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F Subject: Re: Peace Water Winery Patio Angie - The additional information you requested is attached. Please note … the trash and utility enclosure already exists, we are ju st changing the existing vinyl fence planks to match the wood fence we are using to enclose patio. We have also noted the floor as stained concrete although as mentioned that may be natural concrete. Let us know if this what you are looking for and next steps. Thanks! Scott 53 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Peace Water <scott@peacewaterwinery.com> Sent:Thursday, February 12, 2015 9:25 AM To:Mishler, Nicholas F Subject:Re: Peace Water Winery Patio (31 W Main St) Nick, Per your email, I emailed Bonnie Robinson last Friday. I have not heard back from her. Do you have a phone contact where I can follow up with her? J. Scott Burton Sent from my iPhone On Feb 6, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Mishler, Nicholas F < nmishler@carmel.in.gov > wrote: Scott, I spoke to Jim Blanchard about this and he thinks the pergola actually would require a permit. You would first need to contact the State of Indiana and see if they would require a release. The contact info for Dave Moses and Bonnie Robison at the State can be found on the attached page. Thanks, Nick Mishler Administrative Assistant Building & Code Services (317) 571-2489 Please consider the environment before printing this email From: Scott work [ mailto:scott@peacewaterwinery.com ] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 5:07 PM To: Mishler, Nicholas F Cc: Ellison, Christopher M; Conn, Angelina V; Knott, Bruce Subject: Re: Peace Water Winery Patio (31 W Main St) OK. The pergola is actually not attached to the building itself if that matters. It is built freestanding and adjacent to, but not attached to, the building. Not sure if that technical distinction means anything but just wanted to clarify. Let me know …. thanks! Scott On Feb 5, 2015, at 4:51 PM, Mishler, Nicholas F < nmishler@carmel.in.gov > wrote: Thanks. I am checking with Jim Blanchard to see if a permit is required for the pergola structure, since it is attached to the building. 54 Thanks, Nick Mishler Administrative Assistant Building & Code Services (317) 571-2489 Please consider the environment before printing this email From: Peace Water [ mailto:scott@peacewaterwinery.com ] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 4:47 PM To: Mishler, Nicholas F Cc: Ellison, Christopher M; Conn, Angelina V; Knott, Bruce Subject: Re: Peace Water Winery Patio (31 W Main St) No. That would be new construction. J. Scott Burton Sent from my iPhone On Feb 5, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Mishler, Nicholas F < nmishler@carmel.in.gov > wrote: Scott, just to clarify, is the pergola shown on page 2 & 3 of these plans (attached to the building) already existing? Thanks, Nick Mishler Administrative Assistant Building & Code Services (317) 571-2489 Please consider the environment before printing this email From: Scott work [ mailto:scott@peacewaterwinery.com ] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 3:22 PM To: Ellison, Christopher M Cc: Mishler, Nicholas F; Conn, Angelina V; Knott, Bruce Subject: Re: Peace Water Winery Patio (31 W Main St) Chris, Thanks for the feedback and we had actually talked about perhaps adding another exit for that reason. We have revised the plans accordingly and attached to this email. The emergency exit we just added will be 42” wide. As for the unobstructed exit from the rear of the building, we have it designed as a 5’ wide direct, unobstructed path that runs straight from the back door to the rear patio exit. The rear patio exit will be 5’ wide as well. (Note: the back door of the building is 36” wide) 55 By the way, the parking area shown in our patio design has not changed whatsoever from the original plans that were submitted and approved last year. We simply have used the area previously designated as “open yard space” as the new patio. In other words, we are not changing anything with regard to parking. Just pointing that out since Nick mentioned something about parking, ROW and Engineering. Please advise if we need to be contacting someone with respect to that. Thanks again and let us know if this works! <Commercial-Institutional New Structure & Addition Submittal Requirements.pdf> 56 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Scott work <scott@peacewaterwinery.com> Sent:Wednesday, February 11, 2015 4:17 PM To:Conn, Angelina V Cc:Jordan Rapp; Keesling, Rachel M; Mishler, Nicholas F Subject:Re: Peace Water Winery Patio Angie - The additional information you requested is attached. Please note … the trash and utility enclosure already exists, we are ju st changing the existing vinyl fence planks to match the wood fence we are using to enclose patio. We have also noted the floor as stained concrete although as mentioned that may be natural concrete. Let us know if this what you are looking for and next steps. Thanks! Scott 57 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Scott work <scott@peacewaterwinery.com> Sent:Thursday, February 05, 2015 5:07 PM To:Mishler, Nicholas F Cc:Ellison, Christopher M; Conn, Angelina V; Knott, Bruce Subject:Re: Peace Water Winery Patio (31 W Main St) OK. The pergola is actually not attached to the building itself if that matters. It is built freestanding and adjacent to, but not attached to, the building. Not sure if that technical distinction means anything but just wanted to clarify. Let me know …. thanks! Scott On Feb 5, 2015, at 4:51 PM, Mishler, Nicholas F < nmishler@carmel.in.gov > wrote: Thanks. I am checking with Jim Blanchard to see if a permit is required for the pergola structure, since it is attached to the building. Thanks, Nick Mishler Administrative Assistant Building & Code Services (317) 571-2489 Please consider the environment before printing this email From: Peace Water [ mailto:scott@peacewaterwinery.com ] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 4:47 PM To: Mishler, Nicholas F Cc: Ellison, Christopher M; Conn, Angelina V; Knott, Bruce Subject: Re: Peace Water Winery Patio (31 W Main St) No. That would be new construction. J. Scott Burton Sent from my iPhone On Feb 5, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Mishler, Nicholas F < nmishler@carmel.in.gov > wrote: Scott, just to clarify, is the pergola shown on page 2 & 3 of these plans (attached to the building) already existing? Thanks, Nick Mishler Administrative Assistant Building & Code Services 58 (317) 571-2489 Please consider the environment before printing this email From: Scott work [ mailto:scott@peacewaterwinery.com ] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 3:22 PM To: Ellison, Christopher M Cc: Mishler, Nicholas F; Conn, Angelina V; Knott, Bruce Subject: Re: Peace Water Winery Patio (31 W Main St) Chris, Thanks for the feedback and we had actually talked about perhaps adding another exit for that reason. We have revised the plans accordingly and attached to this email. The emergency exit we just added will be 42” wide. As for the unobstructed exit from the rear of the building, we have it designed as a 5’ wide direct, unobstructed path that runs straight from the back door to the rear patio exit. The rear patio exit will be 5’ wide as well. (Note: the back door of the building is 36” wide) By the way, the parking area shown in our patio design has not changed whatsoever from the original plans that were submitted and approved last year. We simply have used the area previously designated as “open yard space” as the new patio. In other words, we are not changing anything with regard to parking. Just pointing that out since Nick mentioned something about parking, ROW and Engineering. Please advise if we need to be contacting someone with respect to that. Thanks again and let us know if this works! 59 Mishler, Nicholas F From:Peace Water <scott@peacewaterwinery.com> Sent:Thursday, February 05, 2015 4:47 PM To:Mishler, Nicholas F Cc:Ellison, Christopher M; Conn, Angelina V; Knott, Bruce Subject:Re: Peace Water Winery Patio (31 W Main St) No. That would be new construction. J. Scott Burton Sent from my iPhone On Feb 5, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Mishler, Nicholas F < nmishler@carmel.in.gov > wrote: Scott, just to clarify, is the pergola shown on page 2 & 3 of these plans (attached to the building) already existing? Thanks, Nick Mishler Administrative Assistant Building & Code Services (317) 571-2489 Please consider the environment before printing this email From: Scott work [ mailto:scott@peacewaterwinery.com ] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 3:22 PM To: Ellison, Christopher M Cc: Mishler, Nicholas F; Conn, Angelina V; Knott, Bruce Subject: Re: Peace Water Winery Patio (31 W Main St) Chris, Thanks for the feedback and we had actually talked about perhaps adding another exit for that reason. We have revised the plans accordingly and attached to this email. The emergency exit we just added will be 42” wide. As for the unobstructed exit from the rear of the building, we have it designed as a 5’ wide direct, unobstructed path that runs straight from the back door to the rear patio exit. The rear patio exit will be 5’ wide as well. (Note: the back door of the building is 36” wide) By the way, the parking area shown in our patio design has not changed whatsoever from the original plans that were submitted and approved last year. We simply have used the area previously designated as “open yard space” as the new patio. In other words, we are not changing anything with regard to parking. Just pointing that out since Nick mentioned something about parking, ROW and Engineering. Please advise if we need to be contacting someone with respect to that. Thanks again and let us know if this works!