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MAY 20, 1997
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The regularly scheduled meeting of the Carmei/Clay Plan Conar esioa was called to order by the
Ptesident at 7 00 PM in the Council Chambers of City Hall, One Civic Square, Carmel, Indiana on
May 20, 1997.
Members present were as follows: James Bolander, David Cremeans; Jay Dorman: Richard J.
Klan, Alan Klineman; Barry Krauss; James T. ONeal, Sr.; Pat Rice; Sam Rinker Rick Sharp;
Luci. Snyder, Paul Spranger, K K_ Thompson: and Chris White.
Also present representing the Departmenr of Community Services were: Director Steve
Eageilant; Michael Holh migir; Terry Jones; and MarkMOntne. Counsel John & Mohtorwas
EL Public Hearing-
h. Cimmission to consider Economic Development Plans for the Pennsylvania Street
Corridor, he Hazelded Parkway; and the Old Town/ 126th Street Corridor Economic
Development Areas.
rii eel by the Cannel Redevelopment Commission
Michael Shaver, president of Wabash Scienadc, Inc., 4742 Bluffwood North Drive, Indianapolis,
46228 appeared before the Commission and presented Development Plans for the Pennsylvania
Street Corridor, Old TowN1_6th Sweet Corridor, :and the Hazeidell Parkway.
The Plan Commission's sole roie is to affirm that the proposed projects and the ovead economic
development plans conform with the economic development plans for the community under the
Comprehensive Plan_
The estimated cost of HazeldelL S20 nnllion plus, is currently under discussion; there is potential
for a bond based on the County Option Income Tax to finance the cost of the tntprovemems.
Alan Klineman asked if by approving the Economic Development Plans• was the Plan Commission
committing itself to approve commercial at various places along HazeldeiL- Nfike Shaver's
response was negative, contirmed by John Molitor. Mr. Molitor stated that the Plan Commission
is only certifying that these areas are shown on the Comprenensive Plan for this type of
develoomerr, and at some timire date, :he Plan Commission is aot required to approve any
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particular commercial development.
Rick Roesch, 832 Spruce Drive, Carmel, president of the Redevelopment Commission, stressed
that the economics of the plans have not yet been determined There will be other public hearings
on the Redevelopment for the indicated locations before anything is decided; there is a lot of work
yet to be done. Before any bonds will be issued, the economics of the overall projects have to be
decided —the economic benefit to the community, etc. Public hearings will be noticed and held
before any dollar amounts are determined.
Tim ONeal asked for the Department's position; Mark Monroe reported that the Economic
Development Plans are in compliance with the 2020 Vision Comprehensive Plan which was
passed in September and approved by the Council. The Department's recommendation is for
approval.
Tun ONeal moved for the approval of the Economic Development Plans for the Economic
Development Areas of Pennsylvania Street Corridor, the Hazeldell Parkway, and the Old
Town/ 126th Street Corridor, and that the accompanying Resolutions (4) be adopted; '.MOTION
APPROVED 12-0.
Luci Snyder moved to reorder the Agenda to hear item 6i., amendments to the U.S. 31 Corridor
Plan (Cannel/Clay Comprehensive Plan amendment, Docket No. 16-97 C-P.;) Motion Approved
11 in favor, Rick Sharp opposed.
Kevin Kirby, 231 First Avenue NE, Carmel, appeared before the Plan Commission as president of
the Carmel City Council and a member of the U.S. 31 Task Force. Mr. Kirby reported that after
numerous meetings regarding the U.S. 31 corridor, the Council felt that the most appropriate use
for the property located at the northeast corner of 96th Street and Springmill would be a
commercial business park The tratfic would be confined to business hours during the week; there
would be no entrance onto Springmill and a wide buffer would be required on Springmmill between
the indicated parcel and Spnngtntll Road.
Tom Thompson confirmed that the boulevard bisecting the of$ce/hotei/snecialty retail component
to the east and the residential uses to the west will be the extension of Illinois Street. Paul
Sptanger reported the Council had stricken the language referring to densities up to 8 dwelling
units per acre on the northwest parcel located west of the Illinois Street extension on U.S. 31 and
116th Street.
Paz Rice reported that a number of residents had wanted to speak to the issue, but due to a
misunderstanding, did not attend the meeting. Pat asked if the Council would consider hearing
the residents, Kevin Kirby stated that he had received a phone call indicating that the residents
would be in attendance at the Council meeting and was surprised when they did not attend.
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Paz Rice asked a number of questions relating to traffic at the indicated site; W. Kirby indicated
that those were issues that would be covered at the rime a development plan is tiled
Alan Klineman expressed concern that the Plan Commission had made their recommendation
based on the designations in the updated Comprehensive Plan; immediately following the adoption
of the Comprehensive Plan and air amendments thereto, the Zoning Ordinances setting zoning
districts are to be put into place. The indicated parcel will be designated as a commercial site,
even though there is nothing site specific in place. Mr. Klineman was concerned as to what type
of office/commercial could be located on this particular parcel, whether it be towers, low-rise, one
story, cottage -Type office buildings, etc. Mr. Klineman felt that there was a big difference
between the amount of traffic generated and the land of depreciation of property values.
Mr. Kirby reiterated that approving the amendment does not open the door to just anything being
built at this location; there will be due process.
Rick Sharp commented that this particular parcel should be left at its current zoning. The specific
area was discussed at the Task Force breakfast meetings as well as meetings of the Plan
Commission, and the residential character of the surrounding area was stressed The Rezone is an
established method and would be site specific. The property has increased in value as residential;
if it were opened to commercial, the value would increase further. It was Mr. Sharp's belief that
by not designating the property as commercial, that the property is being devalued —just the
reverse, the property would skyrocket in value. Mr. Sharp asked that the Council accept the Plan
Commission's initial recommendation.
Dick Klar felt that this particular area should be a mixed use with an additional buffer along
Springmiil Road and the other residential area If it couldn't be done accordingly, the site should
remain residential zoning until a mixed use could be put into place. The 600 foot setback off U.S.
31 is substantial and more than adequate.
Rick Sharp moved to restore the original language regarding an office complex in the area north
of 96th Street and east of Springmill Road.
Alan Klineman moved to Table the motion in order to allow time for the City Council to review
its action and recommendation.
Rick Sharp then withdrew his motion to restore the original language.
Luci Snyder responded to comments from Alan Klineman; there are projects within the Condor
which are coming before the Plan Commission and to postpone any action would create
difficulties for those projects which have been tabled or delayed to this point.
Mr. Klineman stated that by tabling, it was not his intent to do any more than give persons a
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chance to "cool down" and think about the issue.
Paul Spranger, as chairman of the U.S. 31 Task Force, reported that there was concern expressed
from a number of residents in the area at both the Task Force meetings and the last Plan
Commission meeting, of Spnngmill Road being adequately buffered so that an otfice park would
not appear to encroach not only on Spnngmill Road but give a message that office or commercial
would extend west of Spnngmill. W. Spranger felt that a possible solution would be to bisect
this particular parcel and that portion to the west would be developed as residential, that portion
to the east would be developed as an innovative office park.
Mr. Klineman then withdrew his motion to table.
Paul Spranger moved that the Plan Commission amend the U.S. 31 Task Force study to include
the parcel under discussion, described as the southwest portion of U.S. 31 and I-465, abutting
Springmill Road and 96th Street, and that it be bisected (parallel to U.S. 31 and Sprurgnull), the
west portion would retrain the current zoning as medium density residential, and the east portion
be zoned appropriate to an office park or similar use, but retaining the underlying 600 feet of
commercial and retail service —in et%ct two overlays.
Point of Clarification: John Molitor stated that the Plan Commission must approve or disapprove
the Council's amendment within 60 days.
Tim ONeal moved to accept the City Council's recommendation with respect to the 96th and
Sprmgrrill Road area.
Rick Sharp then moved to table item 6i until the next regularly scheduled meeting; APPROVED
(8 in favor, Luci Snyder, Jim ONeal, Paul Spranger, Tom Thompson, and Chris White opposed.)
2h. Commission to consider Docket No. 27-97 P.P., a Primary Plat application for Paul
Shoopman. Petitioner seeks approval to plat 279 tots on 153 acres. The site is located
south of 121 st Street and north of 116th Street, just east of the intersection of 116th
Street and Michigan Road. The site is zoned S-UResidence.
Filed by Paul Shoopman.
Rick Sharp announced his mTennon to abstain from discussion and voting on Docket No. 27-97
P.P. due to a conflict of interest.
Bill Stober, attorney at 8555 North River Road, Indianapolis, appeared before the Commission
representing the applicant and the development of the proposed Eagle Ridge Subdivision. Also
present were Paul Shoopman, Dave Cunningham, Chris Badger of Schneider Engineering and
Steve Fehnbach of .&F Engineering.
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An aerial photograph of the site was displayed showing the 153 acre tract located on the western
edge of Carmel. The property is bounded on the south by 116th Street, on the north by 121st
Street; to the west side of the property is the Boone County line, to the east side of the property,
within one -quarter mile, is Shelbome Road. The property is zoned S-1 as is the abutting
Hamilton County property, and to the west, into Boone County, there is a small portion of
residential zoning and abutting :vlichigan Road, there is professional office zoning. The aerial
photograph reveals Paul Shoopman's home in the site. The property was acquired in 1990 and
developed for the Shoopman residence.
The proposed plat is for the development of 279 home sites, individually owned, single family
residence. .access to the property is from 116th Street, with a second access on the north side at
121st Street. A stub street has been provided to the east property line.
Mr. Stober responded to the Department's comments regarding landscaping plan and roadway
mprovements. At the time the Shoopman residence was built and the property first developed,
there was put into place around the entire perimeter of the site a substantial landscaping plan —the
entire border of the 153 acres begins with a wooden, black, horse -type fence which enclosed the
entire property; inside the fence are four different lines of vegetation and trees. The intent and
purpose is to preserve and leave in place all of the landscaping that can possibly be left in place
with the development of the subdivision, and Schneider Engineering will be working closely with
the staff of the Department of Community Services to achieve this end. Approximately 7500
trees were put on the property by the Shoopmans when they developed their real estate.
In regard to roadway improvements agreed to by the petitioner: The County Highway
Department reviewed the project and proposed that the developer should be responsible for both
the widening and improvement of 116th Street and 121st Street, and in addition, to remove a
"hump" out of 116th Street as it abuts the property; this is not anticipated as an issue and the
developer is prepared to do those things at the time of development of the property.
Mr. Stober stated that he had received telephone calls from two neighbors: one who owns the
"cutout" on 116th Street, and another neighbor who called to talk about the project. No other
communications had been received from the neighbors.
It was Mr. Stober's belief that the plat had been filed in compliance with the Subdivision
Regulations and in compliance with the S-1 requirements of the Ordinance at the time the plat
was tiled. The petitioner looks forward to Subdivision Committee review on the 3rd of June.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor of the proposed project.
An unidentified person who stated that he was the land owner immediately to the east which abuts
the proposed project (Bennett Family Farms), said that he saw nothing wrong with the project and
had no problem with it.
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Members of the public were invited to speak in remonstrance to the project; the following
appeared:
Ron Houck, 315 West 107th Street, Carmel spoke as a member of the Clay West Information
Council which represents approximately 800 homeowners. Mr. Houck wanted to remind the
Commission that there was nothing in the area of the proposed density with an S-1 zoning. Mr.
Houck stated that the plan was clearly tiled alter the adoption of the 2020 Vision Comprehensive
Plan; although there may not be a clear consensus in terms of agreement for everything in the
Comprehensive Plan, it is in effect today, passed by City Council. It was An Houck's belief that
the proposed project was not in compliance with the intent of residential homes in the subject
are& Also, it was Mr. Houck's understanding that the developer was issued a Docket number on
the day of the adoption of the S-1 Ordinance and although there may be some legal question
regarding "grandfathering," the Comprehensive Plan spoke to this very clearly. The
Comprehensive Plan has guided development in Clay West for a number of years prior to the
adoption of any change in the S-1 Ordinance. Mr. Houck referred to other states in which there
had been disagreements about the governing piece of legislation or planning document that should
guide development --other states have case law to present the fact that where ordinances are "out -
of -step" with planning documents, the planning document does in fact represent the will of the
community and is given more credence than an ordinance that was in effect at the time. The S-1
Ordinance as amended was the dust effort in the history of the community to bring the ordinance
into compliance with the Comprehensive Plan. The governing density dictated by the 1991
Comprehensive Plan was for S- I to be developed at 1.5 units per acre. The proposed project
looks like a typical grid system and is not innovative planning. Mr. Houck stated that the
Comprehensive Plan is clearly the governing document and should be looked to for guidance.
Wendy Brant spoke as a representative of concerned groups of Boone County citizens. A major
item of concern is the traffic impact at the intersection of 421 and 334 which will already be
handling a great deal of traffic due to the enlargement of the Presbyterian Church. With the
construction of the subdivision, there will be more tratfic flowing west to the corridor into
Indianapolis, and into Zionsville. ifs. Brant asked the Commission to consider the safety factor
of the increased number cars at an intersection which is a major corridor into Zionsville.
Carl Terry, 4150 West 116th Street, located immediately east of the proposed site, stated a major
concern with drainage. Mr. Terry stated that the drawings show a 27 inch storm sewer going
through his property to Long Branch Creek, but that the storm water will be draining to the north
end of his property which the Creek goes through, and his property will flood. Mr. Terry
reported that at the time Mr. Shoopman received approval for the construction of lakes on his
property, Mr. Shoopman promised not to till in the flood plain; Mr. Shoopman tilled in all the
flood plain up to nis property line, and at present, the water builds up on Mr. Terrys property.
Mr. Terry requested that the drainage matters be resolved.
Karen Terry, 4250 West l 16th Street, agreed with her father, Carl Terry, and stated that the
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drainage is a major concern. The storm sewer also goes through her property and her back yard
floods during a heavy rain.
Allison Brown, 600 West 106th Street, expressed concern regarding the density of the proposed
project and the increased traffic tied to the density figures.
Ronald Biggs, 4422 West 1 l6th Street, stated that he is the "cutout" shown on the aerial photo,
5.65 acres, and surrounded on three sides by Mr. Shoopman Mr. Biggs stated that he has lived in
the property for 32 years and took up residence at a time when the zoning was one unit per 5 acre
and thought it would remain low density housing. W. Biggs agreed with the previous speakers
regarding the traffic issue. Mr. Biggs stated that a wetland had been created and that there may be
some infringement on wetland destruction which should be considered. Also, since Mr. Biggs'
property is adjacent to Mr. Shoopman's, an acceleration lane would cut into the front of Mr.
Biggs' property and he was not in favor. Mr. Biggs felt that if Mr. Shoopman would move the
entrance to the proposed development farther west, an acceleration lane could fit entirely onto
theShoopman site.
Dave Clemm, 11985 Greenfield Road, on the northwest corner of the proposed development,
stated that it was depressing to think that a subdivision of this density was in his future when he
had not planned for it. Mr. Clemm stated that he had offered to buy some property from Mr.
Shoopman to provide a buffer, but Mr. Shoopman would not sell. Mr. Clemm was in favor of
Mowing down or stopping the development altogether.
Mr. Thompson stated that the Plan Commission had received a letter from the Boone County
Commissioners expressing some concern about proceeding with the development and indicating
that they had not approved a commercial development to the west of the subject site wholly
because of the traffic hazards which would be created at the intersection_ The Boone County
Commissioners formally requested that the Plan Commission give consideration to public safety as
the proposed development is reviewed. At this time, the Boone County Commissioners are
concerned that approval prior to roadway improvements in place would create a public safety
hazard.
A letter (with photographs) was also received from John and Janice Kielty expressing opposition
to the project.
Mr. Stober responded that the remarks from the remonstrators seemed to fall into two issues of
drainage and traffic, these items will be fully addressed at Subdivision Committee, however, the
project has been reviewed by the Technical Advisory Committee and the applicant has worked
with the County Surveyor on storm drainage. A&F Engineering has submitted a traffic report
which does recognize the improvements taking place in the area. The Comprehensive Plan has
recommended one unit per acre density; the S- i Ordinance, however, is the proper measure of the
density. It is important to note that Mr. Shoopman purchased the ground some time ago,
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developed it and moved his family in residence, always with the intention of subdividing the
remainder of the 153 acres. It is also true that Paul Shoopman was a leader in resisting a proposal
to develop an intense retail commercial shopping center immediately west of the subject site at
116th Street and Michigan Road —the effort is to preserve the residential character. The
opportunity is to create a subdivision where the developer is a resident of the subdivision.
The public hearing was then closed.
Mark Monroe reported that the Department had three major points of review: 1. The project
complied with the S-1 Ordinance requirements which were intact when the project was tiled and
docketed. The project was filed and docketed before the City Council amended the S-1
Ordinance to limit density in this particular area. '-. The Department has not received written
confirmation from the petitioner that: a) the landscape plan will be preserved as it currently
exists; b) the roadway improvements would be completed during construction as presented this
evening. 3. The Department has not received written confirmation from the County Surveyor's
office that the drainage plan is adequate as proposed. The Department is recommending that the
project proceed to the Subdivision Committee for further review. Many of the items brought out
this evening could be addressed tonight.
Paul Spranger asked about the relocation of the lakes, Mr. Stober responded that there would be
a realignment of the lakes in connection with the storm drainage as shown on the site plan. Paul
Spranger also asked about any bike paths or walking paths around the existing lakes; Mr. Stober
responded that none was planned.
Tom Thompson asked about any recreational facilities for the development; Mr. Stober reported
that none is planned —no swimming pool, tennis courts, etc.
Docket No. 27-97 PP, a Primary Plat application for Paul Shoopman was referred to
Subdivision Committee which will meet June 3rd in the Caucus Rooms of City Hall.
3h Commission to consider Docket No. 25-97 P.P., Amend., an amended Primary Plat
application for Saddle Creek Development. Petitioner seeks approval to amend the
approved primary plat (Sections 1-4) using the Residennal Open Space Ordinance. The
site is located at the northwest corner of 136th Street and Ditch Road. The site is zoned
S-1 /Residence.
Filed by Jeff Kennelly of Saddle Creek Development,
Jeff Kennelly, 123 Village Drive, Carmel, appeared before the Commission representing the
applicant. The Primary Plat for Saddle Creek Development was approved approximately one year
ago by the Plan Commission. Tate infrastructure for the first 65 lots has been installed. Pulte
Homes has been selected to build the homes in Saddle Creek.
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Patrick Beirne of Pulte Homes of Indiana ; 1711 North Pennsylvania Street, Carmel introduced
himself to the Commission. Pulte Homes is considered the largest residential builder in the
country and builds semi -custom to custom homes. The market profile is for semi -custom to
custom homes at affordable prices. Pulte Homes looks for high amenity communities and all
those things that go into Saddle Creek.
Jeff Kennelly repotted that Section I thru 4 is located on the northwest corner of 136th Street and
Ditch Road and is being submitted as an amendment to the original primary plat which was
approved under the Residential Open Space Ordinance. The approved plat is being amended to
add 5 additional lots in order to replace the 5 fits which were reserved as a contingency space for
recreation area in the event the 120 acre north parcel did not receive plat approval. Since the 120
acres was approved on October 16 with the recreational area incorporated therein, the 5 lots can
now be replaced in Section I thru 4. The amended plat is certified to be in hill compliance with
the development standards set forth in the Open Space Ordinance as well as all other standards of
the S-I Zoning District of Carmel/Clay Township.
Basically, approval is being sought to change the approved plat from 122 lots to 127 lots. Under
.he Residential Open Space Ordinance, there is a limit as to the allowable density; Mr. Kennelly
reported that according to a site plan, Saddle Creek was allowed 153 lots under straight S- l
zoning standards. Saddle Creek feels that the amendment is in order and requests that the Plan
Commission approve the amendment to add 5 additional lots in Section 1 through 4
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor or opposition to the proposed project; none
appeared and the public hearing was closed.
Mark Monroe reported that the Department is recommending that the project proceed to the
Subdivision Committee for further review. Mr. Monroe reported that item li. on the Agenda was
the other half of this particular subdivision- A revised plan had been received for the second half
and the Department would like the entire project reviewed as one, including sections l through 4
and 5 through 11, at the Subdivision Cotnaurtee on Jun 3rd.
Docket No. 28-97 PP Amend, an amended Primary Plat application for Saddle Creek
Development was referred to the Subdivision Committee which will meet June 3rd in the Caucus
Rooms of City Hall,
NOTE: Items 4h. and 5h. were heard together.
41L Commission to consider Docket No. 30-97 DP/ADLS, a Development Plan, architectural
Design, Lighting, Landscaping, and Signage applications for Days Inn. Petitioner seeks
approval to construct a 40,000 square foot hotel on 2 acres. The site is located on the
east side of Michigan Road, one lot north of the intersection of 97th Street. The site is
zoned B-6/Business and is located within the U.S. 421 Overlay Zone.
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Filed by Vi-mal Patel.
5h. Commission to consider Docket No. 31-97 PV, a plat vacation application for Vitttal
Patel. Petitioner seeks approval to vacate 3 lots of the Notch Augusta Subdivision. The
site is located on the east side of Michigan Road, one lot north of the intersection of 97th
Street. The site is zoned B-6Business and is located within the U.S. 421 Overlay Zone.
Filed by Vimal Patel.
Ron Hansen, attorney, Indianapolis, appeared before the Commission representing the applicant.
Also in attendance were D.S. Patel, Chan Patel, and Trent Baxter of SCI Engineering. The
project involves 2.066 acres north of the intersection U.S. 421 (Michigan Road) and I-165, in
Clay Township. The parcel consists of three, 100X300 foot lots on the east side of 421, in the
North Augusta Subdivision, Section 2. There is an existing residence on lot 5, lots 6 and 7 are
wooded and have never been developed. To the north is an occupied residence, and a Tack and
Saddlery shop to the south.
Mr. Hansell reported that in October, 1996, the subject site was rezoned to B-6Business. The
proposed use is lodging and limited conference room space for what is to be called the Days Inn
Suites, consisting of 67 rooms, 10 parking spaces, containing 39,450 square feet, height will be
three stories not to exceed 40 feet, wooden frame is anticipated. Water service will be
Indianapolis Water Company, sewer by the Clay Township Regional Waste District.
The plat vacation is essentially to create one tract of land 300X300 feet. The real estate has been
rezoned B-6iBusiness; the subject real estate and the adjoining properties have been designated as
a potential commercial development in the master plan and the tVtichigan Road Corridor Overlay
Zone. The property immediately to the south of the subject site, lots 8 and 9, were rezoned B-2
for commercial use. The property immediately to the north is existing resrdential, designated for
future commercial development and use, but as yet, has not been rezoned as such. The owners of
lot 4 to the north have submitted a letter to the Board of Zoning Appeals indicating their
acquiescence in a waiver of the setback requirement for existing residential uses, and have
indicated their interest in future commercial development of their lot No. 4 in the plat.
Mr. Hansell stated that Michigan Road is being improved and expanded in the immediate area of
the surrounding properties. The conditions in and around the real estate have significantly
changed so as to defeat the original purpose of the plat, and it is in the public interest to vacate all
or part of the plat, and that the value of the pan of the plat not owned by the applicant will not be
diminished by the vacation of the pan of the plat herein requested.
Trem Baxter, Baxter and Set Engineering, site development engineers for the project, commented
that a circular -type entrance was coordinated with the landscape pond; parking is provided for 85
vehicles, including handicap space. For drainage purposes, the area seems to be a common drain
for the surrounding areas. The Days Inn Suites has incorporated not only the 2.07 acre site but
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the additional ? 12 acres of off site drainage that will be running through the Days Inn storm
water structure to the back of the parking area -
Mr. Baxter reported that the lighting for the parking area is a down type, half -globe which will
not produce any unwanted glare and will not exceed point one foot candle at the property line.
The landscaping plan includes a six foot tall shadow box fence along the north, east, and south
property lines. There are numerous trees and shrubs planned; red maple, green ash, ornamental
trees, Hawthorne, Mountain Ash and Serviceberry, as well as barberry, Texas Scarlet and
Butterfly bush. The front landscaping includes three fountains within the pond. Signage: 73
square feet typical of the Days Inn Hotels.
Mr. Hansell stated that the shadow box fence is proposed to be eight feet in height. The
petitioner is seeking a variance from the Board of Zoning appeals on May 27 involving the
waiver of 120 feet in height on the north side to the adjacent property; the landscape reduction
from 20 feet to 10 feet, a variance is also being requested for the lot size minimum requirement
for the Overlay Zone to 2.066 acres rather than the 3 acre requirement.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor of the proposed project; none appeared.
Members of the public were invited to speak in opposition to the proposed property; the
following appeared:
Brian Shapiro, 4610 Woodhaven Drive, Zionsville, Hamilton County, stated that a group of
Zionsville residents had followed the proposed project through the TAC review and now public
hearing. The Zionsville residents did not have a problem with a suite hotel being built at this
location, however, there was a concern with the architectural style, drainage, and the proposed
variances in regard to the landscaping and setbacks. The preference of the Zionsville residents
would be a Federal, Georgian, or Colonial Style project and the Days Inn developers had assured
the Zionsville residents that they probably could be accommodated. Mr. Shapiro stated that the
project had very little brick, was mostly dryvit, and has a blue root. The Zionsville residents are
asking for some coordination of structure and style in keeping with the ZionsvilleiCarmel/Clay
West corridor and are quite concerned about the architecture of the new structures being brought
onto the marketplace. The edmination of some of the landscaping is felt to be detrimental to the
aesthetics and over a period of time, will only worsen. The drainage is a dennite problem in the
area; Mr. Shapiro also stated that he was bothered by the fact that the project of two acres goes
against the Ordinance of 3 acres.
James Wesley White, a resident of the immediate area for 41 years, stated that he was concerned
about drainage at this particular site. The proposed site was once owned by WakeUp Oil
Company who spent thousands of dollars surveying and trying to get rid of the water. The water
is a major concern and Mr. White wanted to know what was pr000sed to alleviate the drainage
situation.
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Paull Lande, 3714 West 97th Street, seven houses from the proposed Days Intl was opposed to
the project by reason of drainage and the increased traffic the Days Inn will bring. Mr. Lande
asked that the Plan Commission please consider the neighbors.
Linda Anstrom, 3737 West 98th Street, stated that she is a neighbor of Mr. White's and agues
with previous comments made regarding drainage which is really bad also, Ms. Anstrom agreed
with comments regarding traffic and stated that the project is the most ridiculous thing she has
ever seen proposed!
The public hearing was then closed.
Mr. Hansen stated that the applicant is aware of major drainage concerns with this project; the
site does act as a common drainway for many of the surrounding neighbors. The petitioner has
looked for a way to take all the neighboring water through their storm water structure which was
designed to handle a 100 year storm; in addition, :here are improvements coming to Michigan
Road which include a storm sewer, and a temporary pumping system will be utilized to keep the
proposed site low enough to drain the neighbors until the storm sewer is available, then the site
will gravity feed to the new structure.
Mark Monroe of the Department confirmed that the petitioner is seeking a number of variances
from the Board of Zoning appeals for building setbacks, reduction of landscaped area on the
north property line, and one for the reduction of lot size. Drainage is a major concern on this
project. At Technical Advisory Committee review, the County Surveyor reported that a
temporary pumping system or mechanical means of drainage on this site is unacceptable. The
Department has met with the petitioner and discussed access; it is quite possible that the northeast
comer of 97th Street and Michigan Road could develop as retail or some other commercial
development; the southeast and northeast comer of 98th Street and Michigan Road could also
develop in a commercial manner. The Department would like to avoid 3 or 4 curb cuts along
Michigan Road in this area. There is probably a workable solution to accommodate all the lots
between 97th and 98th Streets into some type of access plan. Pending the resolution of the
concerns expressed, the Department recommends that the project proceed to Special Study
Committee.
Commissioner Paul Spranger was concerned about the reduction in lot size from the 3 acre
minimum —that leaves the corridor at risk for a piece meal development.
Sam Rincker asked about the actual number of trees being cut down; the response was that many
of the trees are small caliper in nature; approximately 29 new trees will be added at the time the
shadow box fence is constructed. The petitioner did not think this was an issue; all the trees are
to be cut down.
Luci Snyder asked if the site would accommodate a retention pond —the site is small. Mark
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Monroe responded that at one time, the plan did incivae a small pond on the east side of the
property with a mechanical means of pumping the water out of the pond —this was unacceptable
to the County Surveyor's otfice. The Department has encouraged the petitioner to acquire more
property to accommodate drainage; tree preservation; and other issues that could be resolved.
Mr. D. S. Patel appeared before the Commission to respond to Luci Snyder's comments. Mr.
Patel stated that he is involved in the Days inn project and also works for the State of Indiana.
Mr. Pate also stated that he has been involved in Carmel planning since 1977, through the Carmel
Wastewater..r. Patel stated that the only problem he can see with the project is with the
drainage. There is no drainage Swale or ditches in the area or storm sewer. The 421 expansion
will include a 36 inch diameter pipe for the storm sewer. The only thing to be done is to increase
the diameter of pipe to take care of the drainage for the entire area.
Rick Sharp asked the current plan and whether or not there are a number of changes over what
was initially proposed at the rezone stage.
Mark Monroe responded that there was no detail presented at the rezone stage; however, there
were a number of commitments made by the petitioner, including the maximum height of the
hotel, installation of the fence on the east property line, and the installation of the accel/decel lanes
along Michigan Road, etc. Rick Sharp asked that the Department make the rezone file available at
the Special Study Committee for comparison of concepVreality.
Tom Thompson asked for a better description of the signage; the petitioner responded that the
sign is pylon, maximum height of 7 feet on a post.
Paz Rice asked about the color of the roof, Chan Patel responded that it will not be a blue roof,
however they are still working with a designer for an overall color scheme.
Docket No. 30-97 DP/ADLS, a Development Plan, architectural Design, Lighting, Landscaping,
and Signage applications for Days Inn was referred to the Special Study Committee which will
meet Tuesday, June 3rd in the Caucus Rooms of City Hall.
Regarding Docket No. 31-97 PV, a plat vacation for Vimal Patel, members of the public were
invited to speak in favor or opposition to the plat vacaton; none appeared and the public hearing
was closed.
There were no comments from Plan Commission memoers and Docket No. 31-97 PV, a plat
vacation for Vimal Patel was referred to the Speciai Study Committee which will meet Tuesday,
June')rd in the Caucus Rooms of City Hall.
Item 6h was classified as New Business and will be heard later in the proceedings.
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71L Commission to consider Docket Nos. 33-97 DP/ADLS and 34-97 SP, a Development
Plan, .architectural Design, Lighting, Landscaping, and Signage, and Secondary Plat
applications for Duncan Video. Petitioner seeks approval to construct 18,000 square feet
of office and warehousing space on 4 acres of land_ The site is located at the northwest
corner or Guilford avenue and Adams Street. The site is zoned M-3/Manufacturing.
Filed by fret Nelson of Nelson and Frankenberger.
Tim Nelson, 3661 Brumley Way, Carmel appeared before the Commission representing John and
Karen Beremen. .also present was Paul Meyer of American Consulting Engineers. John and
Karen Beremen are the owners of Duncan Video Inc. and have selected a small parcel of land in
Carmel Science and Technology Park as the new corporate home for Duncan Video. The
Development Plan includes a single story, 18,000 square foot building for Duncan Video.
Duncan Video provides design, sales, installation, integration, service and training for broadcasts,
production, and industrial video products and systems. Their market area is the State of Indiana
and a 150 mile radius of the City of Indianapolis. Locally, their customers include TV Stations
Channels 4, 6, 8, and 13. From the corporate side, Thomson Consumer Electronics, Eli Lily, and
colleges and universities such as DePauw and Butler.
The subject site lies within the Carmel Science & Technology Park near the intersection of
Carmel Drive and Guilford, at the northwest comer of Guilford and Adams. The parcel is
approximately 4 acres in size and zoned M-3 Industrial. The eastern part of the site is heavily
wooded and the development plan contemplates the preservation of the greater pan of the
existing wooded area. The building will front on Guilford and the only point of ingress and egress
will be from Adams Street.
The building is 18,000 square feet, single story, and has a maximum height of 24 feet. The
building materials are scored, spilt -face block, dryvit and glass. The colors are light grey with
blue trim and blue glass. There is one sign which is a ground sign with the Duncan logo and the
common address of the building, 11202 Adams Street.
The parking area is located to the front of the building will serve the corporate officers, the
parting along the side will serve employee and service area parking. The loading area is to the
west end of the building. Plan material has been provided around the perimeter of the property, at
the entrance, and around the building The lighting plan is a shoebox style dxture, bronze in
color, a 20 foot pole mounted on a two foot stone base, :he light bulb does not protrude below
the bottom of the shoebox and meets the footcandle requirement of point one.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor of the proposed project, the following
appeared:
Allison Brown 600 West 106th Street, was complimentary of the planner and efforts to save the
trees in an industrial zoning.
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Members of the public were invited to speak in opposition to the proposed project; none appeared
and the public heating was closed.
Mark Monroe reported that the Department is recommending approval of the project.
Upon motion made by Jim ONeal, the rules were suspended in order to vote on this Docket.
Tim ONeal moved for the approval of Docket Nos. 3. -97 DP/ADLS and 34-97 S.P., for Duncan
Video, MOTION APPROVED I3-0.
8h. Docket No. 35-97 DP Amend/ADLS Amend for Matthews, Click, Revel, and Henry
was TABLED BY THE PETITIONER
9h. Commission to consider Docket No. 39-97 OA, an ordinance amendment to regulate the
siting of wireless facilities, including, but not limited to, towers, antennae, and satellite
dishes.
Filed by the Plan Commission.
John Molitor, Counsel, presented the Ordinance Amendment to regulate the siting of wireless
facilities. Cellular phones and Enhanced Specialized Mobile Radio devices, ("ESMR") as well as
Personal Communicanon Services, ("PCS") are in the muddle of the electro-magnetic spectrum
(just above radioiTV and just below microwave.) Under the Federal Telecommunications legal
changes, the PCS part of the spectrum has been auctioned onto many companies across the
country and those firms are coming in asking for approval to locate towers or antennae within the
community.
There are three different types of Antennae: whip, panel, and dish; there are two different types
of towers: the lattice and the monopole. A "flower tower" is an existing structure such as a
lighting structure, with panel antennae on top. There are also building attached facilities, six or
eight story buiidings will accommodate many of the antennae near the top of the building.
The Federal Telecommunications Act was passed in February, 1996 and attempts to balance the
interest of the service provider within the local communities and also precludes the FCC from pre-
empting State and local regulation of siting decisions.
The Federal Act provides for: 1) Non-discrimination among service providers. _) Service cannot
be prohibited in your community. 3) Whether or not a particular tower or antennae is allowed can
be determined on a case -by -case basis, but a denial decision cannot be allowed based on the radio
trequency hazard. The Federal Government decided that if the towers and antennae complied
with FCC standards, they were safe and local government should not be making that decision. 4)
Local officials must rule within a reasonable amount of time, as vet undefined. � 1 Under the
Federal law (which also conforms to State law), local otiicials must provide a Nntten reasons for
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any denial decision. 6) Appeals from decisions of local officials are entitled to be taken to Court
Mr. Molitor went on to explain three tiers of regulations in regard to the antennae and towers
which work within the existing processes with the Board of Zoning Appeals and the Plan
Commission.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor of the proposed Ordinance amendment;
none appeared. Member of the public were invited to speak in remonstrance to the proposed
Amendment; the following appeared:
Ron Houck, 315 West 107th Street, Carmel, questioned the location of towers at will in any
commercially zoned area and implies a free standing structure. Mr. Houck asked if there was any
provision for the granting of a utility easement on existing commercial development so that there
is not a free standing structure and it can be incorporated into commercial development such as
the top of a building.
John Mohtor responded to Mr. Houck's comments: There has been nothing prepared along the
Lines of an easement; there are tremendous incentives for building owners, particularly high rise, to
make available their buildings. If the antennae is appropriately camouflaged or is visually
unobtrusive, ao approval will be required in a commercial district; if it is in a residential district,
approval would still be required, but would be a Special Use type of approval and would go
before the Board of Zoning Appeals.
The public hearing was then closed.
Tom Thompson reported that PSI indicated that they may have an opportunity to present possible
locations for antennae. Mark Monroe concurred and stated that the Department had
accommodated some of their proposals within the proposed Ordinance under permitted uses;
anytime an antennae would want to locate on an existing utility pole, it could be done as a
permitted use. In a way, the utilities' wishes have already been addressed.
Rick Sharp asked the definition of "visually unobtrusive" and who makes that determination.
John Molitor responded that a special definition for that term was not provided —in a residential
area, it would be up to the Board of Zoning Appeals to make that determination. 1n the
commercial areas, it would be an administrative determination by the Director.
Jay Dorman commented that it was his understanding that additional cellular licenses had been
gamed in this area. Mr. Dorman questioned if a PCS broadcast signal was compatible with a
cellular tower, in other words, can they both reside on the same pole? John Molitor thought there
was no reason why they couldn't share the same tower, however, they cannot be closer than
perhaps 10 to 20 feet from one another, but that would apply to any competitor.
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-Alan Klineman reported that 9 people had been granted licenses for PCS over the Carmel/Clay
area in addition to the existing cellular licensees.
Jay Dorman was looking for a defined vendor population and perhaps fix a maximum of antennae
structures which could be placed in the community. John Molitor stated that it was conceivable
that there could be over 100 of these throughout the township/community. (either towers or 100
different location for antennae. City and Township properties are exempt from the Zoning
Ordinance; City and Township facilities are essentially a free area in terms of this Ordinance,
subject to the approval only of the Board of Public Works and City and Township outside the
City limits.
Tom Thompson asked for another meeting of the Task Force to look at provisions for clustering
or co -locating and the sue of the monopoles and locations. The Task Force will meet Thursday
morning, May 29th at 7 00 AM in the Caucus Rooms of City Hall. A special meeting of the Plan
Commission was scheduled prior to the Committee meetings on June 3rd in Council Chambers in
order to finalize the Amendment and make a recommendation to the City Council.
L Old Business:
li. Commission to consider Docket No. 12-97 PP Amend, an amended Primary Plat
application for Saddle Creek Development Petitioner seeks approval to amend the
approved primary plat using the Residential Open Space Ordinance. The site is located at
the northwest corner of 141st Street and Ditch Road. The site is zoned S- I /Residence.
Filed by Jeff Kennelly of Saddle Creek Development.
JefKennelly, 123 Village Drive, Carmel appeared before the Commission requesting a
amendment to the approved plat for Saddle Creek, Sections 5 through 11. This item was tabled
by Mr. Kennelly for 30 days in an etfort to revise the plan. A revised plan was submitted to the
Department of Commtfniry Services on May 13 for their review IF a revised plan would be
submitted this evening. Mr. Kennelly reported that Pulte Homes wanted to commence
construction as soon as possible, and no revisions or changes to the amendment would be
submitted either now or in the future. Mr. Kennelly stated that the pennon was in full compliance
with the Zoning Laws and Ordinances of Carmel/Clay Township, and although it had received a
negative recommendation from the Subdivision Committee, the petitioner is asking for approval
of the amendment as presented at the :March 18. 1997 Plan Commission meeting.
Dave Cremeans reported that the Subdivision Committee could Lind no basis for approving the
requested additional lots and the Committee had voted unanimously to deny recommendation for
approval.
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Mr. Thompson commented that a major reason for concern was that the higher density would
place this particular subdivision out of context with the remainder of development and character
of the area
Mark Monroe reported that there are two findings of fact: one pertains to the Open Space
application; the second pertains to the Primary Plat application.
After some discussion, Docket No. 12-97 PP Amend, was referred to the Subdivision Committee
for re -review at its meeting on June 3rd at 7:00 PM in the Caucus Rooms of City Ha11
2i. Commission to consider Docket No. 14-97 Z, a rezone application for Bill Greenwood.
Petitioner seeks to rezone less than one acre of property from R-/2Residence to R-
3/Residence to allow for a two-fanady dwelling. The site is located at 240 2nd Street INE.
The site is zoned R-2/Residence.
Filed by Bill Greenwood.
Bill Greenwood, 31 1 Fifth Street NE, Carmel appeared before the Commission requesting a
rezone of property located at 240 2nd Street from R-2/Residence to R-3/Residence. Mr.
Greenwood maintains the construction of the proposed duplex is compatible with the area and
current homes in the neighborhood.
Mr. Greenwood stated that 150 feet due west from the proposed site, one could look to the north
and south and view 7 duplexes in the area, plus single family homes that are rentals. Mr.
Greenwood stated that the proposed duplex is consistent with the area and requested approval of
the rezone.
Rick Sharp reported that the principal question regarding the petition had been the character of
the neighborhood; the Committee felt that the proposed construction would not detract but rather
would be an enhancement to the neighborhood. The Committee is recommending approval.
Mark Monroe reported that the Department had recommended denial of the rezone based on two
reasons from a land use perspective. Many homes in the area are single family —very few "two
family dwellings." The subject site is between a zoning district that is allows two family dwellings
to the west and single family to the east; the subject parcel is a part of the single family zoned area
of Old Town Carmel and the rezone is felt to be inappropriate for the indicated area
Luci Snyder said she had visited the area and talked to the residents, all of whom were in favor of
the proposed two family dwelling.
Jay Dorman also had favorable continents regarding the proposed construction.
Rick Sharp moved for the approval of Docket No. 14-97 Z. Bill Greenwood Rezone;
APPROVED 12 in favor, Paul Spranger opposed.
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3i. Commission to consider Docket No. 19-97 PP, a Primary Plat application for Pittman
Partners. Petitioner seeks approval to plat 47 lots on 20 acres using the Residential Open
Space Ordinance. The petitioner also has tiled a corresponding Primary Plat application to
subdivide the property using the S-2/Residence development standards. In addition,
several variances of the Subdivision Regulations are being requested including:
a) Variance of Section 6.3.6 to reduce the required street width from 30 feet to 26
feet and the required right-of-way from 50 feet to 40 feet.
b) Variance of Section 6.3.7 to allow cul-de-sacs with a "hammerhead"
configuration.
c) Variance of Section 6.3.20 to allow for private streets.
d) Variance of Section 6.3.22 to eliminate the passing blister (if property cannot
be obtained).
e) Variance of Section 33.4.05 to reduce the required minimum aggregate side
yard setback from 15 feet to 10 feet.
The site is located at the northwest corner of 111 Street and Springmill Road. The site is
zoned S-2/Residence.
Filed by Steve Pittman of Pittman Parmers.
Steve Pittman, 10469 Spring 11ighland Drive, Carmel appeared before the Commission
representing the applicant. The Subdivision Committee reviewed the two plans and unanimously
recommended the utilization of the Residential Open Space Ordinance and the approval of the
variances.
There was considerable discussion regarding the variance for the private streets. The County
required private streets in order to allow hammerhead cul-de-sacs. The Committee unanimously
approved the private streets with the condition that should the property become annexed within
the next Live years, the applicant will petition Carmel's Board of Public Works to take the streets
into their system and they would be dedicated as City streets; the applicant is willing to comply
with this condition.
Dave Cremeans reported that the Subdivision Committee did have considerable discussion
concerning the private streets. There was a question regarding Variance 6.3._21 the passing
blister, and Mr. Pittman also agreed that if the ground should become available within the next
rive vears, Mr. Pittman will install the passing blister. Based on the conditions set forth, the
committee unanimously recommended approval.
Mark Monroe reported that the Department is recommending approval pending the Subdivision
Committee's requests being placed in writing in commitment form for approval.
Dave Cremeans moved for the approval of Docket Yo. 19-97 PP for Pittman Partners,
CONDITIONED upon the private streets being petitioned to the Board of Public Works to be
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turned over to the City if annexed within the next five vears, FURTHER CONDITIONED upon
Variance 6.3.7-2 being eliminated if the ground becomes available within the next five years on the
east side of Spnng Mill across from the entrance to Williams Mill, the pentioner agrees to
construct a passing blister, APPROVED with conditions, li in favor, none opposed.
4i. Docket No. 20-97 DP Amend/ADLS Amend., an amended Development Plan and
amended Architectural Design for Matthews, Click, Revel, and Henry was TABLED
BY THE PE=ONER.
5i. Commission to consider Docket No. 21-97 DP/ADLS, a Development Plan and
Architectural Design, Lighting, Landscaping, and Signage applications for Marsh and
Village Pantry. Petitioner seeks approval to construct an 84,000 square foot grocery
store and a 5,000 square foot convenience center on 15 acres. The site is located at the
northeast corner of 106th Street and U.S. 421. The site is zoned B-2Business and is
located within the U.S. 421 Overiay Zone.
Filed by Jim Nelson of Nelson and Frankenberger.
Jim Nelson appeared before the Commission and reported that the Special Study Committee had
r1mewed this matter on May 6. All the specific items requested to be addressed were addressed
and the Committee voted a favorable recommendanon.
Rick Sharp reported that the Special Study Committee had discussed outside storage, cum lanes,
and the orientation of the building. All concerns were addressed —the orientation of the building
seemed to be the best for all concerned in terms of buffering the planned and current residential
neighborhoods —and the project received a unanimous recommendation for approval. Since the
Committee meeting, a concern had been expressed regarding the roof of the convenience center
and this had not been explored.
Mark :Monroe reported that the Department is recommending approval of the project as
resubmitted (land resubmitted.)
Dave Cremeans asked about the issue concerning the pitch of the root, Rick Sharp responded that
he had been contacted today with the comment that the flat roof line might be felt to be
unattractive and that perhaps a pitched roof would be more desirable. Rick Sharp felt that the
roof was not an issue and he had no Droblem with the design as is.
Jim Nelson responded that he had no prior knowledge of any continents on the roof until 4:00 PM
this afternoon; however, the design referred to has been rendered obsolete by Marsh because the
pitch root does not function well with the covered gas canopy, it is too costly to construct and
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maintain, but more importantly, it is simply not functional to the new style of covered gas
canopies.
Upon formal motion made by Rick Sharp, Docket No. 21-97 DP/ADLS, for Marsh and Village
Pantry was APPROVED 13 in favor, none opposed.
6i. Cotnnussion to reconsider amendments to the U.S. 31 Corridor Plan (Carmel/Clay
Comprehensive Plan Amendment, Docket No. 16-97 C.P.)
Referred to the Plan Commission by the City Council.
TABLED BY THE PLAN COMMISSION
7i. Commission to consider Docket No. 88-96 O.A., a zoning ordinance amendment to
require that lots abutting or fronting on [Hain thoroughfares be required to gain access
from that [Hain thoroughfare by means of an alley or frontage place.
Filed by the Plan Commission.
Mark Monroe of the Department of Community Services reported that the Subdivision
Committee had met prior to the full Commission meeting this evening and had recommended
seven amendments to this particular ordinance. 1) The approval of the absence of curbs along the
alleyways, but there would be curbs along the frontage place roads that would face the primary
streets. 3) Disallowing parking along the alleyways unless the cars were in garages or next to the
garage, essentially on private property, otherwise no parking. 3) The inclusion or a hammerhead
design cul-de-sac which might allow for 3 or 4 additional lots at the end or a frontage place. 4)
On those lots not necessarily facing the street (for instance, the side of the house [night face the
street), some type of buffer would be required along the street identical to the buffer or street
scape planted along the frontage place. 5) The frontage places would be either public or private
and similar to alleyways that are allowed to be either public or private. 6) Fencing would not be
allowed within the frontage place area —no fence would be allowed in front of the house; OR 7) If
the location was the option which allowed a :0 foot buffer between the street and the lot, there
would be no fence allowed within the buffer as well.
Mark Monroe reported that the Department is recommending approval of the Ordinance with the
aforesaid amendments, pending Plan Commission's approval.
In response to questions from Tom Thompson, Mark Monroe reported that the changes that were
made at the .May oth meeting were changes recommended by the development community. The
Department has addressed many if not all the concerns of the development community.
Dave Cremeans asked about the construction of the frontage place roads; Mark Monroe
responded that the frontage place roaas will be constructed either to City or County standards,
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depending on whether or not they are inside the City limits of Carmel.
Upon formal motion made by Paul Spranger and duly seconded, Docket No. 88-96 O.A.,
Frontage Place Ordinance was APPROVED 13-0.
J. New Business
Commission to consider DocketNo. 32-97 DP Amend/ADLS .amend, an amended
Development Plan and amended .Axchitecturai Design, Lighting, Landscaping, and Signage
applications for Conseco. Petitioner seeks approval to construct a 105,000 square foot
building on approximately 9 acres. The site is located on the north side of College Drive,
within the existing Conseco complex The site is zoned B-2/13usiness.
Filed by Robert Olson of CSO Architects and Engineers.
Robert Olson of CSO Engineers, 9100 Keystone Crossing, Suite 200, Indianapolis 46240
appeared before the Commission representing the applicant. .approval is being sought for an
amended Development Plan and ADLS amendment for a new otHce/conference center to be
located on the Conseco campus. John White, vice president of Conseco, was also in attendance
as well as Alan Tucker of CSO Architects. .approximately 80,000 square teet of the proposed
building will be office space, and the balance will be conference center and meeting rooms to be
used by Conseco for training facilities for new product lines. There would be very rare occasions
in which Conseco would bus in a maximum of 150 persons from either the airport or surrounding
hotels to utilize the conference center.
The Ordinance requires 266 parking spaces; a total of 419 have been provided. To the west of
the building will be a patio area with trees, on the east side of the building will be a service drive
with a dock/loading area for the drop-off of product materials.
Most all buildings in the Conseco campus are the same and consist of two story buildings with a
fiat root; gey, precast panels v4 h metal frames and bluetgrey window tint. There will be an
entrance to the north which will exit into the new parking area -
Mark Monroe reported that the property is zoned B-? Business and not M-3 as stated in the
Agenda. Pan of the Conseco campus straddles the Meridian Technology Center as well as the
Carmel Science & Technology Park which are zoned two different ways and have two different
approval processes. The instant case only requires ,DLS approval by the Commission and is not
a public hearing. There are not outstanding TAC issues.
Upon motion made by Paul Spranger and duly seconded, Docket No. 32-97 DP Amend/ADLS
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There being no durther business, the meeting was adjourned at 11:53 PM
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