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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes Plan Commission 06-18-91 CARMEL PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - JUNE 18 , 1991 1 The regular meeting of the Carmel Planning Commission was brought to order by Vice President, Sue McMullen on June 18, 1991 at 7 : 40 P.M. at the Carmel City Council Chambers . The meeting was opened with the Pledge of Allegiance . The board members present were : Sue McMullen, Caroline Bainbridge, Henry Blackwell, Ron Houck, Richard Klar, Henrietta Lamb, Max Moore, Jim O'Neal, Michael Nardi, Annabelle Ogle, Alan Potasnik, Tom Welch, Tom Whitehead and Sharon Clark of Hamilton County. Jeff Davis and Norma Meighen was not present . The staff members present were : Wes Bucher, David Cunningham, Terry Jones , Rick Brandau, Mike Hollibaugh, Wm. Wendling, Jr. and Dorthy Neisler. Mr. Richard Klar moved to approve the May 21, 1991 minutes as presented with the following corrections : Page 5 , line 12 should read: is basically at a material balance . As to the question of The Corps of Engineers we have received approval from the Corps of Engineers as to wet lands . I believe what Greg was referring to perhaps is mining areas that are treated somewhat differently than non-mining areas, in that we don ' t have I guess good laws here in Indiana as to how mining is done. Instead of continually doing something as you mine as it is done in many other areas, the mines here are allowed to just let it happen till there is use; Page 5 , last line should read: asphalt . The lake is approximately 13-15 feet deep. Mr. Sweet stated that he could not recall the issue to a stoplight, there was a comment made regardless of the data we had gotten tonight that at this point or for at least a while into the project none would be required on per basis of traffic count . I believe the Comprehensive Plans calls for 126th Street to eventually be four lane and we are prepared to do a lane on our side the whole width as to the timing of that, etc . will be some of the conversation that we will have . Later on we have committed to do traffic improvements on 116th Street in accordance with that traffic study. Mr. Nardi seconded. Unanimously approved. Mr. Wes Bucher stated that the last City Council Meeting the question was raised as to the Springmill Corridor Amendment that was passed both by the Plan Commission and by the City Council and is part of the current Comprehensive Plan. Because it was an amendment obviously it was not scanned at the time the document was scanned while beginning this process it did not get included in the draft of the Comprehensive Plan that you voted on and that was advertised and voted on by the City Council . Several times during the several years that they studied this the question was asked and the reply of the Steering Committee was yes, the Spring Mill Corridor Amendment should be part of that document, however, CARMEL PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - JUNE 18, 1991 2 it is not contained in the draft . It was discovered obviously, now when it was at City Council , and so the Council last night in discussing this rather than just to insert it wanted this to come back to the Plan Commission, then to ascertain your feelings and to see whether or not this should be inserted into the draft . If that was your intention and if that is so then by resolution or vote then that could go back to City Council and be included in the version that you passed and they are now studying. That is one part of it . It has also been pointed out on Page 68 of the draft the very top line talking about the Spring Mill Corridor, the draft that we did approve, if you read that it says Spring Mill should develop with a predominantly residential character. The question would be, if you look at the ordinance under the goals, number 2 says continuation of Spring Mill Road as a residential corridor. The question would come up, does the word predominantly on page 68 does it conflict with the Spring Mill Corridor Amendment . So if you vote you put this amendment in as I believe it was the intention of the Steering Committee, then are you creating a conflicting statement on page 68 with that word predominantly. So if the Commission votes to put it in"you may want to consider leaving the predominantly in or if you don' t think that effects that leaving it stand as it was prepared. Mr. Potasnik asked if in order to do this , if this was something that was inadvertently left out the Comprehensive Plan Update what would be staffs recommendation in order to make both of these items coincide . Mr. Bucher stated that staffs recommendation would be that it was inadvertently left out of the Comprehensive Plan and it should be included and to delete the word predominantly from page 68 . Mr. Potasnik moved to include what was referred to as the Spring Mill Road Amendment and in line with the staffs recommendation remove the word predominantly. Seconded. Unanimously approved. G. PUBLIC HEARINGS Items lg and 2g were heard together but voted on separately. 1g. Commission to consider Docket No. 26-91 PP, A Primary Plat application for Hamilton Business Park, located at the southeast corner of 106th and US 421 (Michigan Road) . The plat includes streets, easements, right-of- ways and 7 blocks for future commercial development on 84 . 83 acres of land . Site is zoned B-3 and B-5 and is partially located within the US 421 Overlay Corridor. Filed by James J. Nelson for Wurster Construction Company, Inc. CARMEL PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - JUNE 18 , 1991 3 The public hearing was opened at 7 : 50 P.M. Mr. James Nelson, 3663 Brumley Way, Carmel, IN, made the presentation, a copy of which is on file at the Carmel Department of Community Development . An aerial view and a rendering of the primary plat . Mr. Rich Knipstein, 10550 Green Tree Dr. , spoke in opposition to this project . He stated his concerns regarding the curb cuts and the traffic congestion at the intersection on Michigan Road and 106th Street where there has been many fatalities . Mrs . Judy Hagan, 10946 Spring Mill Lane spoke in opposition to this project . Mrs . Hagan supported Mr. Knipstein' s comments . She had no objections to there being right turn only lanes if there are accel decel lanes for people to get off there . Is that being provided? Is the board approving the road layout? Would like a light at the southern most tip of the property. She spoke in opposition to the curb cuts . Mr. Randy Shultz, 3796 Shelborne Ct . stated his concerns regarding the traffic situation and the curb cuts . Mr.Nelson spoke in response to the comments addressed by the remonstrators . He stated that they will be prepared to address these concerns at the Technical Advisory Committee on Thursday. He would report that any curb cuts on Michigan Road is under the jurisdiction of the State Highway Department and they have submitted preliminary plans to the State Highway Department and they have received their approval . The approval that they received is for the curb cuts that are shown on the plans . They felt that since they have the ultimate jurisdiction in this regard that it would be premature to appear before this Plan Commission without their prior preliminary approval . Basically what their preliminary consists of is that they review our concept design, which is what is shown here, they approved that concept design subject only to the final approval of the construction plans . With respect to the curb cuts off of 106th Street, those are under the jurisdiction of Hamilton County Highway Department and they are in the process of discussing these cuts with them. They did previously on the west side had three curb cuts and that is what is shown on the drawings that the board has before them. They have reduced that to two by consolidating two of them that was at the request of the Hamilton County Highway Department. They will be further prepared to address this at the TAC Meeting. There was further discussion regarding the curb cuts . Mr. Blackwell asked if there was a request put in for another CARMEL PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - JUNE 18 , 1991 4 stop light at any of the cuts . The petitioner' s engineer stated that the traffic signals from our projections would not be warranted. This was sent to the Subdivision Committee meeting on the 2nd of July, 1991 at the City Caucus Rooms . 2g. Commission to consider Docket No. 27-91 PP, a Primary Plat application for Hamilton Center, located at the southwest corner of 106th and US 421 (Michigan Road) . The plat consists of one block for future commercial development on 16 . 89 acres of land. Site is zoned I-i and is partially located within the US 421 Overlay Corridor. Filed by James J. Nelson for Wurster Construction Company, Inc. This item was sent to the Subdivision Committee on July 2, 1991 at the City Caucus Rooms . s H. OLD BUSINESS lh. Commission to consider Docket No. 4-91 O .A. , an ordinance amendment to Ordinance Z-160, the proposed amendment is to regulate outside storage and displays . Filed by Wm. Wendling, Jr. for the Carmel/Clay Plan Commission. This item was tabled at Land Use Committee . 2h. Commission to consider Docket No. 21-91 ADLS/DP, Architectural Design, Lighting & Signage and Development Plan applications for Pearson Ford, located at the northwest corner of 106th and US 421 (Michigan Road) . The development includes the expansion of the current facility to a total of 63 , 077 sq. ft . for new and used automobile sales . Site consists of 9 . 17 acres and is zoned B-3 and is located within the US 421 Overlay Corridor. The petitioner will be appearing before the Carmel/Clay Board of Zoning Appeals for Special Use approval and developmental standards variances . Filed by E . Davis Coots for Pearson Ford Dealership. Mr. Dave Cunnningham stated that the Commission members attention at the committee level it was requested that variances that were sought and approved at the Board of Zoning Appeals be addressed to you . If you would refer to your Land Use and Commercial Committee Minutes pages 3 , 4, 5 respectively are those items and CARMEL PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - JUNE 18, 1991 5 his understanding the petitioner will be explaining those to you . Those are for your reference . Mr. John Pearson for Pearson Ford and Barbara Conrad who is the Engineer with Paul Cripe were present . Ms . Sheila Marshall of Coots,Henke and Wheeler, 255 E . Carmel Dr. , made the presentation, a copy of which is on file at the Carmel Department of Community Development . An aerial view and an elevation of buildings displaying the signage package on the buildings . The staff recommendations were noted (which is a part of the official minutes and attached to the Master Copy) . Mr. Dave Cunningham stated in relationship to our recommendation to have it removed mainly. The main reason they request it to be removed is in the purpose and intent of the Sign Ordinance . It does state and quote, "The intent of this ordinance is to bring all existing signs into compliance with the code and insure that all future signs are in compliance . " The staff feels at this time this would be the applicable time to bring this in to compliance . Mr. Wm. Wendling stated that he was at the BZA meeting and his recollection was that it was in the application, but the application addressed the four signs . Certainly the pole sign was discussed as reflected in the minutes but there was nothing in there to sway one way or the other. Secondly, as whether this Plan Commission can request or require a commitment from the property owner to take this sign down . I believe so frankly, as much as it does pain me to say that I guess , but 3674613 states that if developmental plan is required by zoning ordinance which this does, because of the overlay zone, then the Plan Commission may permit or require the owner of a parcel to make a written commitment concerning the use or development of that parcel . This is the use or the development of this parcel . However, I would caution you not to go to far out on that because like everything else it has to be somewhat reasonable, you just can arbitrarily make decisions . This statue does indicate that you can ask and you can require commitments that the property owner would enter into to conform to the desires of the Commission. Mr. Potasnik moved to approve Docket No. 21-91 ADLS/DP as presented. Seconded. There was further discussion regarding the signage . The vote was 8 members voted to approve and 5 members voted CARMEL PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - JUNE 18 , 1991 6 against . 3h. Commission to consider Docket No. 22-91 ADLS/DP, Architectural Design, Lighting & Signage and Development Plan applications for Meijer, Inc. to be located at the northwest corner of 126th (Carmel Drive) and Old Meridian. The development includes the construction of a 208 , 600 sq. ft . facility for all- purpose retail and service center. Site consists of 31 acres and is zoned B-3 . The petitioner will be appearing before the Carmel/Clay Board of Zoning Appeals for Special Use approval and developmental standards variances . Filed by James J. Nelson for Meijer, Inc. Mr. Jim Nelson, 3663 Brumley Way, Carmel, made the presentation, a copy of which is on file at the Carmel Department of Community Development . Mr. O'Neal moved to approve Docket No. 22-91 as presented. • Mr. Klar seconded. Unanimously approved. 4h. Commission to consider D. - 23-91 PP, a primary plat application for 'aterstone . The primary plat consists of 417 lotsN. - - = = . -s of land located on the north side of 116th treet, east side of Gray Road and the south side of 126th Street . Site is zoned S-i, S-2 , & R-1 residence districts . Petitioner requests approval to subdivide the property into 417 single- family residential lots . Petitioner is requesting subdivision variance : 8 . 9 Installation of sidewalks within and bordering the subdivision. Petitioner has also filed a request to amend the Commitments concerning the Use and Development of the Real Estate executed on 16th day of October, 1990 and recorded on the 5th Day of February, 1991, in the Office of the Recorder of Hamilton County, Indiana as Instrument No. 9102729 . Filed by James J. Nelson for Brenwick Development Co . Mr.Dave Cunningham stated that the staff would inform the Plan Commission as part of the commitment change would need to be voted on first . Mr. Blackwell moved to amend commitment . Ms . Caroline Bainbridge seconded. Unanimously approved. CARMEL PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - JUNE 18, 1991 7 Mr. Blackwell moved to approve the variance as presented. Mr. Klar seconded. Findings of facts were completed by all board members . Unanimously approved. Mr. Blackwell moved to approve Docket No. 23-91 Primary Plat as presented. Seconded. Findings of Facts were completed by all board members . Unanimously approved. 5h. . Commission to consider Docket No. 24-91 PP, a primary plat application for Williamson Run, Section 6 . The primary plat consists of 11 lots on 7 acres of land located on the south side of 106th Street, approx. one half mile east of Keystone Avenue, south of the existing Williamson Run Subdivision. Site is zoned S-2 residence district . Petitioner requests approval to subdivide the property into 11 single-family residential lots . Filed by Mark Boyce for C.P.Morgan Co. , Inc. Mr. Blackwell moved to approve Docket No. 24-91 PP as presented. Seconded. Findings of Facts were completed by all board members . Unanimously approved. I . NEW BUSINESS 41i . Commission to consider Docket No. 28-91 ADLS/DP (Amend) , Architectural Design, Lighting & Signage And Development Plan Amendment applications for Duke Associates . Site is located within the existing Parkwood Development located north of 96th Street, east of Meridian Street, south of I-465 and west of College Avenue . Petitioner request approval to amend previously approved Development plan for Parkwood and request approval for the construction of a 4 story building with a total of 176, 000 square feet . Site is zoned B-6 Entrance Corridor. Filed by Philip Nicely for Duke Associates . Mr. Philip Nicely, Attorney at 8888 Keystone Crossing, made the presentation, a copy of which is on file at the Carmel Department of Community Development . Mr. Bob Faulk from Duke Development and is in charge of construction, Brent Davis, Les Hulls from the Architect, Debbie Smucker who is the Landscape Architect and Mr. Joe Yaeger who is the Senior Vice President of Indiana Insurance Company. CARMEL PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - JUNE 18, 1991 8 A site plan, a landscape plan, south and north elevations, a signage plan and a lighting plan was displayed. This will go to Land Use and Industrial & Commercial Committee on July 2 , 1991 at the City Caucus Rooms . The meeting was adjourned at 9 : 30 P .M. Vice President Secretary