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CARMEL/ PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES - DECEMBER 15, 1987
called to order by
The regular meeting of the Carmel Plan Commission was
8c at the City
Richard Albright President , at 7: 35 P. M. , December
l5, l19i/ nce
Meeting Hall The' meeting opened with the Pledge ofAllegiance.
The
e� The r ^ ll called and members present were asfollows:
Bob Boone,
~ wasMinnie Doane, Henrietta Lamb ,Albright , Jeff Davis, Ila Badger ` nn McMulen Jim O 'Neal . Absent were
Max Moore, Vaughn Story, Paul Ayers, Sue McMullen , illness.
JimSchneider and Sandra Long who was absent due to
Cunningham , ick
^ present were Chuck Kiphart , Dave ,
Staff members
Brandau Gordon Byers and Dorthy Neisler ^ 17, 1987 minutes on
'r Albright made an addition to the November Petitioner was assured
Docket n7^ 87 Z Rezone Application that should read:
z - without prejudice.
he could withdraw and repetitionb 1987inutes be approved as
that that the November 17, ".
Mrs. Badger moved ~
amended.
Mr. O 'Neal seconded. December 31 1987 and
Minnie Doane has completed her term as of ,
expressed to everyone how much she enjoyed her term^ ley thanking the Planning
Mr. Albright read a letter from Bruce Cordingley
bourne Subdivision.
Commission for their assistance in connection with Br e Executive Director
letter to Jack Isen�arger °
Mr. Albright wrote aMr. we may have
of Indiana
Department of Highways regarding mutual concernswe
and his
ding�the Meridian Corridor requesting a meeting with
n from one of
regarding
and development people. We have receivedanindicationtg after the first
planningthat there would probably be sucha meei/.
his staff members a
of the year . the State Board of Health , Mr. Daryl
Mr. Albright also contactedl Mr Patterson said that
Patterson who works in residential sewage disposa . . ble Patterson
if we needed assistance on any items they would be avai �a . Mr.
said he would commit to a meeting after the first of the year.
G.
1 Commission to consider Docket No. 112-87 SP Secondary Plat
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g^ o forWood Park , Sec. 2 consisting of 38 lots on 11 .
52 o of and
application `` ~- theSE corner
R 1 located on 116th _ -
acres. Site is zoned - , -_
College in Clay Township.
Filed by Dean Ziegler.
Mr. Kiphart said that all department requirements have been met and
does conform with the primary plat.
Mrs. McMullen made a motion to be approved.
Seconded by Ms. Doane.
Motion was carried.
H.
PUBLIS
87 87 Z Rezone Application
lb. 7: 30 P. M. , Public Hearing on Docket No. - l IN also known as
24 acres of ` and located at 82 Sixth Street ' Carmel , change in zoning
^ Petitioner requests a
for � Subdivision. echange~
9 David Kinzer u ^ ' `^ ^^— BA-16-76.
- V riance
Lot of David theelimination of a use a
from R-2 to 8-7 for e
Filed by Dr. Linderman , Owner.
The public hearing opened at 7: 43 with Dennis Andrews of Gordon Mess
and Associates Architect of 8802 N. Meridian Street making presentation.
Dr, Linderman was Present^ addition to an existing
The proposal is to add a 600 foot squareaddition
zoned R-2 and because
structure of 1200 feet. An existing house on p
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of zoning regulation would like to r
for residential neighborhood ezone to a B-7 which is a business zoning
construThedconstruction of the addition will be identical to currently
building
The additi
out 21 feet , on will be made on the west side of parking lot extending
Site planson^
were presented to show location of addition.
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Mr. "lluwato -7 y, a neighbor was unopposed B ne public hearing was closed at 7: 48 P. M.
zoning^
requirements
questioned if the B-7 requirement have been and the parking
-
Mr. Kiphart said it will be a 3 phase process
alof development Plan in a B_7, and a set ba to B-7,
approval
a' � no 1andscaPe buffer for any additions
� : variances for the
side ydaons
v i Rear yard set back for the addition andput on^
variance will be required, the 30 ' landscape buffer
specifThisse isva
notherebyspecial use permit it is here by a very
cThere was r�ur � that was approved in 1976,
This item atnerdiscussion by the board members and Mr Kiphart
''H~l ==''tto the Land Use Committee, January 5, ^ 1q88 at
the City Meeting ^
2h. 7: 30 P. M. , Public Hearing on Docket No. 103-87 P P P i
. ^a` Application for Newark Village Subdi i i P. ^ r mary
lots 61 , 62, 63 consisting of 3 new lots
« s on , rePlating of
is zoned R-2 located at the northweston 1 ^ 49 acres. Site
at Pawnee Road, Carmel , IN corner of Winona Drive
Filed by Mr. Larry Dunkerl ^ .
EngineThenpublicng hearingnwasiopened at 7: 54 P. M. with Stan Neal of Weihe
maki
Larry Dunke -lr was --- on.
' present
Development plans passed out to eachmem b
Sewage and Water hookups are available^
er indicating location.
Sub DiTheiproperty
towner has been before Tenical Advisory Committee and
exi There are not any improvements The str t
s ng in Newark Village. ^ ee s and sewers are all
ti
Kenneth Crider, property owner1 bl
Newark Village, do not have any ock south of said property in
as residential , They had a complaints and is glad to see it remain
concern that property was going to be rezoned
for businesses.
Jeff Deihl , 726 Pawnee Road are concerned about thi
30 days ==o business. Mr. Deihl received a certified lettes property being
rezoned
~y ^ r approximately
The public hearing was closed at 8: 00 P M
Mr. Davis read Sub Committee Report (wh� c^ is a t
l minutes attached to the Master Copy)
^ '' Par of the
official
A motion was made to suspend the ru l ^
es to consider this tonight,
Motion was approved,
Mr. Ayers made a motion to
tonight, approve the Primary Plat as presented
Seconded by Mrs. Badger.
Findings of fact were ^
Motion was carried, completed.
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7i Commission to consider Docket No. 104-87 SP Secondary Plat
~ Application for Newark Village consisting of3 lotson
corner
of
acres, site is zoned R-Z located at the northwest c . .
Pawnee and Winona, Carmel , IN.
Filed by Mr. Larry Dunkerly
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Mr. Davis moved for approval of Secondary Plat.
Ms. Doane seconded.
Motion was carried.
H. PUBLIC HEARINGS
3h. 7: 30 P. M. . Public Hearing on Docket No. 113_87 DP/ADLSnage for
Development Plan/Architectural Design lighting
dand
szgIN
p �'' l ated 95O N Range Line Voa , Carmel , .
U-Lok-It Storagelocatedocis in the
U, S, 31 Meridian Corridor
e is zoned u- and - and offices
- foot warehouse
Si- 32 500 square -
Overlay. Propose , . ..- _ �
with one apartment.
Filed by Larry Lawhead for Harry Elliott.
The public hearing was opened at 8: 05 P. M. by Mr. Larry Lawhead ,
resenting Northview Realty, Inc. . l zone
Attorney representing l estate is divided in half by the U^ S^ 31 over ay one.
The rea
Development plan was shown and location gi»en^ and approved by
The variances have been fully examined , discussed
the Land Use Committee and Board of Zoning Appeals. 1 is approximately 400
The closest point to the real estate to US 3US 31
feet. Property is split as shown due to direction of .
Looking at projectofficeand a
from entrance we have +zve =
management apartment. i ed of brick There will be a green
Front exterior will be comprised ^s of the
strip along Range Line Road. Landscaping along the perimeter
project.
The lighting plan was shown , proposed lighting meets requirements
with . 1 candlelight^ tordinances as shown on exhibits.
Signage and Parking will meet f theland
The drainage will follow the natural flow o .
The trash container will be enclosed.
The public hearing was closed at 8: 12 P. M.
There will
ll be a total of 9 buildings. The front buildings are
offices and one managers apartment for security^ t for electricity in
There will not be any otherimprovements except
the other 8 buildings. -
5 6 ' in height for screening of the
There will be 53 white pines,
cemetery.
Project will be completely curbed.
Detention will be in front^ about 40 square feet .
There will be a roof mounted sign of Committee on January
This item was sent to Industrial & Commercial
5, 1.988 at City Meeting Hall .
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1i Commission to consider Docket No. 59-87 7 , Rezone
SApplication
^ located at S E corner of 116th c. and
for 68 568 acres oc S. ^ from the
^ a change ro
Spring Mill Road. Petitioner requestsistrict for a proposed
existing S-2 zoning to B-6 Zone u . -its to
e» complex Petitioner also comm
multi -building office ^
certain covenants and conditions as part of the rezone
request.
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Filed by Jim Nelson , Attorney for Dr John B Pitt
' ' "perOwner.cy wner. ^ ^ man ,
TABLED AT LAND USE COMMITTEE AUGUST 4, 1987. REMAINS TABLED
1987 expressing concern
received a letter from Jim Nelson dated N
Pittr ^s //
=^ y concern that if he withdre th o«ember 19,
man zt could not to be placed w e rezone request of John
within a period of six months aft agai n on the agenda for consideratio
after withdrawal (letter is a part of then
If there are material chonthe Master Copy> ,
official minutes and attached tuges made in the Petition it will be
treated as a new petition
Mr. Nelson said ^ Original petition could be withdrawn^
who apPro«imately 10 days ago he reached an
which is the r i ' Spring Mil
represented the homeowners in S i agreement
with Chuck Wilson
petitioner hases �ential subdivision to the south. Atthis
Place,
requested Paul I . Cripe Inc. to prepare re time
be submitted t this agreement in principal when thear ' «zsed Plans
representing
Plan Commissioo '1r^ Wilson for approval , and thenywile comPleted they will
//. will be presented to the
rel Mr. Vaughn Story moved that the Com i i
a «e to this petition that if th m ss on should adopt a rule
ti
Plan , the petitioner should withdrawere are substantial changes in the
Petition. this petition and file a new
Seconded by Mrs. McMullen
Motion was carried.
Mr. Jim Nelson withdrew the original petition.
2i . Commission to consider Docket No. 95 87 P
application for Crossfields Subdivision- ^ P P. Primary Plat
lots on 15 ^3. 2 acres of land Siconsisting of 101
west of Towne Road between �e is zoned S-1 and located
Filed by William Olson , 126th and 116th
Developer. Streets.
part ofMr. Davis read report from Sub-Division Committee (
official minutes and attached to master
ee copy is made a
Mr. Davis moved petition be approvecopy) .
Seconded by Mrs. McMullen. o^
At the request of Mr. Boone there wasdi
regarding the who are experts on sew scussion by Mr. Byers
to decide whether the experts are erage' draining , traffic. We are not
the State to approve We received
or what we need. It is up to
stating it will prob^bly work, «e a letter from County Sanitarians
southTowne Road runs along entire East Side 116th
entrances side, 126th across the entire North sid' Th across the entire
to south side, =^ ere are no existing
The intentions are to upgrade Towne Road
fil A letter of approval on the better dra ^
es~ znage plan is in Mr. Kipharts
7 1/2 fThe peak increase in water elevation for the 100
feet.
nr^ Neal said there is adequate elevation -year storm will be
r�no in of fact were completed by members. for this^
It was approved 11-0. (A
31 . Commission to consider Docket No 99-87 Z R
Application for 113. 8 acres of land^ located ezone
corner of Haverstick Road and 106th Stt ,
at the Southwest
Petitioners request a change in i reet ' Carmel , IN.
zoning
the development of a future bng from S-1 to 5-2 from
subdivision.
Filed by Mr . Mark Boyce for C �z «ision^
C. P. Morgan , Inc.
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CARMEL PLAN COMMISSIONart of
the Land Use Committee Report (which are a p
Mrs. Badger gave
attached to the Master Copy) . Mrs. Badgeri h is
the official minu�es an ition and in favor of (w� c
submitted letters from homeowners in opposition
t Master copy) ,
part of the official minutes and attachedo
a The committee recommended against approval . Use
Committee for
Mrs. Badger moved this be sent back to Land
further review.
Seconded by Mr. Ayers^ easement to construct a
P
petitioner obtained from Dan Young an li inary approval
roadto connecteto 96th Street. Petitioner obtained pretymline providing
along the east Proper
for a stub street that would exit
for future access to east to Gray Road~ Vale Drive to minimize the
There will be a rerouted entrance at
amoun nd egress
t f traffic that would use as point of ingress ailed .
o tion to send this back to Land Use Committee a App for
�o tiofn that Docket 99-07 Rezone pp
Mrs. Badger made a mo ented this evening^
C. P. Morgan be approved as pres
Seconded by Mrs. Lamb. to Mr. Kiphart from traffic consultant
A letter is to be presented th t traffic on Vale
stating that with redesign of Vale Drive connection a
Drive would be substantially reduced^ home builders, build some
Mr. Morgan will sell lots to other customl to the public
k some lots available for sale homes himself and will make
that the homeowners select^
with the right tO approve the resented to all board members.
A conceptual development plan was P presentation.
Mr Rick Burleson , Architect with C. P. Morgan made
^ ill consist of brick walls, then enrer into a boulevard
with landscaped median goingconsists of
Entrance w past pond area. The amenity area cons
t and walking trails through wooded area.
a pool , club house, tennis cour s
There will also be two lakes~ brick work and
Entrance treatment exhibit showed sculptured
patternedePa«ing^ be 176 single family lots^ from homeowners
expressing concern nu ' =l-^ � ^or�9ht acknowledged letters he had received nd some
�r ^ � about the subdivision , with some in favor ofa
in opposition^ recommend approval of rezone to City Council with
Motion is to i ht from S_1 to S-2, it passed unanimously^
information as presented ton g
4i ^ Commission to consider Docket No. 100-87 P. P. Primary
Plat/cluster development application for Walden Pond q acres
Subdivision Subdivision consisting of 126 lots on 40.
of land. Site is zoned R-1 and located at the northeast
corner of 99th Street and Westfield Blvd. , Clay Township.
or .f Mr . Paul E
Filed by Mr . Jim Nelson E. Estridge, Jr.
Mr. Davis read Subdivision Committee Report (which is a part of the
and attached to the Master Copy) .
official minutes
Mr. Davis moved the petition be approved as presented.
Ms. Doane Seconded^ a t lked to Kent Ward and indicated he has no
Mr. Kiphart said he ed by plan Commission^
roblem with the project being apProv b
p There was further discussion by the board mem ers.
Findings of fact were completed by members. ht)
It was voted 10 for and 1 against (Mr. A1bri g
omw
C ission to consider Docket No. 102-87 ADLS Signage
Si ^
Application forOne Meridian Plaza located at 10585 N.
Meridian. Petitioner wishes to establish a new sign Package
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the for One
tMeridian
oPlaza.
f Site is zoned B-5, and located at
Clay h east c . ,'e, o Meridian Street and 10 th
Filed byM Township. Street ,
r. Rusty Richardson.
Mr. Coots made presentationof
agenda Si and 6i have been combinedo
f new sign package. Both items on the
KiphartMr^lKiphart stated that he hadr identical sign packages,
they botfe t that the two signs shouldr
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n read Meridian Plaza read differently, as it stands now
A sign variance will be^
The signs on Meridian needed.
sq. ft. for Meridian O an Plaza' 75 sq^ ft. for Meridian Th
on which the sign willne^ me
aThe sign material will be the sa ree and 85
oe placed^ There will be individualas the wall
greenw
and will me mounted on the wall h�chinternallY
lighted letters of is
ou� nesigns^ The Wainwright sign currently on th
`gwill be converted to conform with this sie
Meridian One building,edMrs. Mthat MuweeaPpro«e both sign packagesaprgnepackage~
Mr. Boone mo
Mr. Kiphart does a- ^ ^ ''` -- ''`~"^
Seconded by
One and Meridian plaza Tgree that with the signs reading Meridian pl
Mr. Coots stated /vg�e mee� the ordinance as presented toni ht aza
the signs that will be c�nar the building tenants sign will be the ^
ordinance, onstructed on this wall . They do meet thee same as
Items Si and 61 were approved unanimously.
61 . Commission to consider Docket No. 107-87 ADLS Si
Application for Three Meridian Plaza located ^t 1gnage
' '=' �u� an. pPetitioner wishes to establish a 0333 N.
for Three Meridian plaza Site isa new sign package
the northeast corner o f Meridian
zoned B-5 and located at
eridian Street and 103rd Street ,
Clay Township,
Filed by Mr. Rusty Richardson
Item 61 was combined with item 5i and approved.
71 . Acted on with Item 2h.
8i . Commission to consider Docket No 105 87 P P
Application for Leising Estates ^ - ^ P. Primary Plat
a
lots on 3 acres of land StesSubdi«ision consisting of 3
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the South east corner Site is zoned 5-2 and located at
of 104th and White Oak Drive, Clay
Township,
Filed by Mr. Ron Leising.
the offa
Mr. Davis read the Sub Division Committee report (which is a part f
D l --..ua
^~= ,/u aczacne� to the Master Co ) o
ennzs Grump from Schneider En i Py ^
of Ron Leising, This petition was g neering made presentation on behalf
on December 7. There attorney is ipresented to the County Commissioners
ssuzng us a letter to the effect they
will accept the improvements to 104th Street in front of the project
rather than the impact fee.
The improvements tot104th Street is the widening and repaving
will be imp--v.~~�o"' ron age in front of 104th Street. The pavement
The petitioner
-d s^gi22fringtotal
pavement is approximately 16-17 feet
Drive to La Salle. ' a o+ 50 ft. right of way from White Oak ~
The petitioner has committed to providing a sidewalk across 104th
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Street to Briar Creek. Does not want to put sidewalk on West Side of
White Oak Drive.
Mr. Davis moved that we accept this project as presented including
the variance for the sidewalk down White Oak Drive.
Motion died for a lack of a second.
Mrs. McMullen moved the approval of what has been presented with
the sidewalks being built along White Oak Drive.
Seconded by Mrs. Badger.
Mrs. McMullen amended the motion to instruct the petitioner to
amend and bring it back with that plan plus the sidewalk.
Seconded by Mrs. Badger.
Amended motion passed.
9i . Commission to consider Docket No. 108-87 D. P. Development
Plan for Knowles Office Center located at the southeast
corner of Winona Drive and Range Line Road , Carmel , IN.
Site is zoned B-7. Proposed 3007 Square Feet office
building.
Filed by Mr . Al Hughey for Mr. William W. Knowles
Mr. Boone read the Industrial and Commercial Report (which is a
part of the official minutes and attached to the master copy) .
Mr. Boone moved the petition be approved.
Seconded by Mr. O 'Neal
Mr. John Hughey made presentation for Al Hughey.
Site plan shown. Changes regarding the landscaping and lights were
shown on site plan.
A sample of the red brick to used was shown.
The roof will have black shingles.
The exterior color will be semi-gloss white.
The ordinances have all been met.
Petition with changes approved unanimously.
Mr . Boone moved that Mr. Coots be allowed to make a presentation
regarding an item that was not on the agenda.
Mr. Coots wanted to make a clarification
Mr. Kiphart made two announcements which were as follows:
1 . Copyright building at Meridian Technology Park would like to move
location of their sign from the North side to the East side and will be 2
feet smaller.
2 Woodfield Subdivision developer has submitted a plat that shows street
names^ different that the final plat of street names that was approved by
the Plan Commission. It has been my understanding that approving street
names is a Plan Commission requirement. The staff has always done the
addressing so the Plan Commission didn 't have to get bogged down with
t donethat.
addressing things and we have jus . Some of the street names a
are going to be changed. The staff will check them out to make sure the
new ones do not correspond with any existing street names and if its
agreeable with everyone we will leave it at that.
There was no further business brought before the board and the
meeting was adjourned.
ichard O. Albright, President Dorthy J. Neisler, Secretary