HomeMy WebLinkAboutRemonstrance Letters March 1, 1994
Carmel Planning Commission
One Carmel Square
Carmel,IN 46032
Dear Commissioners:
I am a homeowner that will be adversely impacted by the proposed development of"cluster homes"by
Davis Homes around the Twin Lakes Golf Course in Clay Township. Other communities have had to deal
with developers'proposals that do not keep with the spirit of the approved Development Plan. I suggest
that you use the following contact as a resource.
The City of Canton,Michigan has been dealing with the"cluster home"issue for the past three years.
They have large areas of farm ground that is being developed and certain developers were using the
cluster option as a loophole to evade the intent of the planning ordinance. The Planning Services
Department wrote an issues report and placed a moratorium on additional cluster development until a new
ordinance could be written to ensure the original intent of the city's plan.
I spoke with Jeff Goulet of the Canton Planning Services Department. He said that he would be happy to
discuss their approach with one of Carmel's city planners. He can be contacted at:
Jeff Goulet
1150 South Canton Center Road
Canton,MI 48188
(313)397-5390
I oppose the Davis plan as it was presented to the Commission on February 15, 1994. The density of the
proposed housing and the disregard for the surrounding communities are definitely not what I expected
when my wife and I moved into Cannel. I appreciate your help in protecting the equity we have placed in
our home and the investment that we have all made in the Carmel community.
Sincerely,
Daniel L.Rimstidt
3106 Towne Drive
Carmel,IN 46032
(317)872-1270
March 1, 1994
Carmel Planning Commission
One Carmel Square
Carmel,IN 46032
Dear Commissioners:
I am a homeowner that will be adversely impacted by the proposed development of"cluster homes"by
Davis Homes around the Twin Lakes Golf Course in Clay Township. Other communities have had to deal
with developers'proposals that do not keep with the spirit of the approved Development Plan. I suggest
that you use the following contact as a resource.
The City of Canton,Michigan has been dealing with the"cluster home"issue for the past three years.
They have large areas of farm ground that is being developed and certain developers were using the
cluster option as a loophole to evade the intent of the planning ordinance. The Planning Services
Department wrote an issues report and placed a moratorium on additional cluster development until a new
ordinance could be written to ensure the original intent of the city's plan.
I spoke with Jeff Goulet of the Canton Planning Services Department. He said that he would be happy to
discuss their approach with one of Carmel's city planners. He can be contacted at:
Jeff Goulet
1150 South Canton Center Road
Canton,MI 48188
(313)397-5390
I oppose the Davis plan as it was presented to the Commission on February 15, 1994. The density of the
proposed housing and the disregard for the surrounding communities are definitely not what I expected
when my wife and I moved into Carmel. I appreciate your help in protecting the equity we have placed in
our home and the investment that we have all made in the Carmel community.
Sincerely,
0-'7/ 4/.
Daniel L.Rimstidt
3106 Towne Drive
Carmel,IN 46032
(317)872-1270
05-12-1994
James P. & Rande L. Kaufman
9805 Greentree Drive
Carmel, IN 46032
Ramona Hancock Secretary
One Civic Square
Carmel, IN 46032
RE: Proposed Davis Development
We would like to take this opportunity to express our views on the Davis
Development proposed in our area. We are totally opposed to these homes being
built as proposed for a number of reasons.
First, the infrastructure of this area is totally unable to handle any
additional traffic these homes would infuse into the area. Our only exit from
our home is from Greentree Drive onto 96th Street. During peak traffic times, a
wait to get on 96th Street making a right turn has been as long as five minutes.
However, if the avenue to work is a left turn, the time is increased
dramatically as well as having the danger of an accident doing so. Even the
intersection of 96th and Michigan Road is unable to handle more vehicles. The
traffic attempting to make a left turn, even with an arrow light, backs up all
the way to Shelborne Road both in the mornings and the afternoons. This also
prompts individuals to attempt left turns from the through lane greatly
increasing the danger of accidents. The traffic is so bad on 96th Street when
ITT lets out for the afternoon, a police officer is necessary to direct traffic.
When additional traffic is infused into this traffic pattern, 96th Street will
become one of the highest rated traffic hazard areas in Marion and Hamilton
Counties. We have already seen serious accidents in this area; need they be
more frequent? To correct this situation and to handle the additional traffic
would necessitate widening the entire length of 96th Street from Township Line
Road to Michigan Road. At the present time, Township Line Road is virtually
impassable due to its deteriorating condition and due to construction already in
progress, Shelborne Road is not far behind. We see nothing indicating anyone's
readiness to accept the great expense let alone action to correct these
conditions. In addition to the cost of the road itself; the cost of redoing
drainage ditches and utilities has to be considered.
Secondly, the fire and police protection in this area is minimal at best for the
homes and businesses as they are. With the influx of the number of homes
proposed by Davis Homes, additional fire and police would be necessary. Also,
with homes placed as close together as is proposed, there is no question a fire
in one would spread to others before the situation could be brought under
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Ramona Hancock Secretary
RE: Proposed Davis Development
Additionally and on a more personal note than the above reasons, if Davis
Development is allowed to develop the property behind my house, the 38 acres
directly off 96th Street and to the east of the existing homes on the east side
of the golf course, there will be at least SEVEN homes butting up to our back
yard. This means we will have seven different homes to look at and deal with
their different landscaping, children, dogs and water problems. A lesser
density of homes is the only viable option.
Additionally and still on a personal note, it does not appear Davis Homes will
respect us and our property in their building efforts. They have already caused
damage to our yard and shrubbery by driving over our property to gain access to
the 38 acre field instead of gaining access from 96th Street or further up
Greentree Drive where access is immediate. We were assured by the driver of the
vehicle the damage would be repaired in Mid-March. Not one attempt has been
made to repair the damage nor contact us about it. If this is a sample of the
type of people who will be building SEVEN houses along our property line, we
absolutely want no part of the development at all.
We are asking you take these objections into consideration when contemplating
your decision about the Davis Development at your next Carmel Planning
Commission meeting. We will be there in person to answer any questions not
addressed in this letter.
Thank you very much for your attention to this letter and our feelings.
James P. Kaufma�rrJ� �
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Rande L. Kaufman
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January 17, 1994
Area Plan Commission of Carmel ) /)/
Carmel City Hall F`
1 Civic Square
Carmel, Indiana 46032
Dear Members of the Plan Commission:
I received two notices about A planned Cluster House
Development in our area, and a nitice of pubiLe hearing
which is foeket # 5.94-PF .
After review of the information thet is av>>ilable to me, it
is obvious to me thrtt Lhis area would be cIT.22A3J harmed by
by a Cluster House Development.
1. Cluster House would not fit with the quality of
housing that is around it.
2. The high density wuei]d throw a burden on the School.
3. It would compound the traffic problems, since there
hes been very little increase in the aapacit;' of the roads
during the lust ten years, while the popu1 tinn of the area
has increased already.
4. This t,'pe of housing does not equally share the
prrden of taxes per person.
I had a long conversation with Dorotha and Francis Osborneon
Saturday 1/15/94 and they are of this same opinion. They have
owned the property next to ere for about 40 yearn. GnPorturntely
he will not be able to attend with me as we talked aboAt, because
Ur. Osborn died suddenly of a heart attack ebowt 8:00ark 1/17/94.
Please convey the contents of this letter to the Members of
the Plan Commission, since we will not be at the meeting
to be held 7:00 Tuesday 1/18/94.
Sincerely,
4oha 0. Allen 2'74
2620 W 96th St.
Indianapolis, TN 46266
Hamilton County
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January 18, .1994
Dear Mr. Houck,
The purpose of this letter is to address.the Davis Developmentro
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'The Links" which is planned for the 140 acre parcel of land located est of Shelbourne
and north of West 96th Street. I have recently moYed to the Ashbrook development
which is located on Shelbourne Rd. from the Castleton area. One of the p C
T selected to live in this area was the qualitygyPeary reasons
designed to avoid "overdevelopment" and to preserve ve the rural which the
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Clay county. By proposing 340 home sites in fewer than half the number of acrestheDavis Development company appears to bel
large rapidly built development. If approved,Panning to overurbanize the area with one
tremendous pressure upon the infrastructureof the looeaell community,lopmentDula no
pr doubt place
existing real estate and the tax base, and disgruntle the registered voters and local e
business owners in the area.
The Davis Development company no doubt views the proposed-project as
extremely Iucrative through being able to demand a premium price for their product in
such a desirable location. As the planners of the present and future City of Carmel I
urge you to closely scrutinize the Links proposal for its feasibility
costs and benefits to current andresidents.
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to preserve the quality of the community of Carmel by nresisting the Castell tiolore you to n"of
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our beautiful community. I believe that Davis or another developer has the resources to
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the area which first attracted me to the Carmel. I look foreword rd to�your characteristics
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issue and please feel free to contact me if I can be of further assistance.
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Jay Dorman
759 Whitehall Place
Carmel, IN 46033
Dear Jay,
As I 'm sure you know I do not feel the Linkside project is an
appropriate usage of the land surrounding twin lakes golf club.
Listed below are the reasons I feel we should vote this project
down.
-- I strongly oppose the linkside project. I feel that as a
commission we not only have the right but are required to deny
this proposal . My initial thought was that this proposed project
met the letter of the law but not the spirit of the law. Upon
further review I find that it does not meet either criteria. I
hope I don' t bore you with the following excerpts .
In part, paragraph 33 . 11 Of the zoning ordinance states "included
in the review and approval of the cluster housing development
shall be the compatibility of said cluster housing development
with adjacent land uses . "
Paragraph 33 . 12 States that where the requirements of this
section differ from requirements in other sections that these
provisions shall control .
In addition, paragraph 33 . 0 . 1 States in part that a cluster
development encourages an alternate and efficient utilization of
the land with regard to compatibility with the surrounding uses
and neighborhoods, through ingenuity and originality. I do not
feel that this is an ingenious or original use of the land. It is
merely trying to maximize the usage of the parcel. Thirty eight
acres of this proposal are zoned s-1, this is the area for the
proposed manor homes . This area will stretch to the max the 2 . 4
units per acre limit. The Merrriam report recommends a "blending
in" of neighborhoods which is obviously not being done here.
The traffic study shows that an additional 3150 trips per day
will result from this proposed project. The 20 year plan has no
provision for any improvement in 96th street. Traffic today is
untenable and the project will only worsen the entire traffic
flow. What will the traffic flow be with the improvements
suggested by the developer? I suspect that no improvements will
be shown.
In closing these following points need to be considered:
Inadequate infrastructure - the roads simply cannot handle
the traffic.
This proposal is not the highest and best use of the land.
Orchard Park school cannot handle the additional children.
Creekside development is a far cry from where we are. All in
all this is a proposal which does not meet the letter and
definitely not the spirit of the law. We as commission are
obligated to deny this docket number 5-94 p.p. named
lakeside.
I hope these reasons give you the ammunition you need to vote
this project down. Like you I don' t want to be a part of a
"rubber stamp" commission so you can count on my no vote.
Thanks for your time and I hope I can count on you.
Sincerely,
David A. Cremeans
INDIANA UNIVERSITY
PURDUE UNIVERSITY
INDIANAPOLIS
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Ronald Houck
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4°4c4'' 1 Civic Square
Cannel Indiana 46032
571-2400
571-2426 (fax)
SCHOOL OF NURSING
January 18, 1994
Dear Mr. Houck,
The purpose of this letter is to address the Davis Development proposal entitled
"The Links" which is planned for the 140 acre parcel of land located east of Shelbourne
and north of West 96th Street. I have recently moved to the Ashbrook development
which is located on Shelbourne Rd. from the Castleton area. One of the primary reasons
I selected to live in this area was the quality planning by which the developments were
designed to avoid "overdevelopment" and to preserve the rural atmosphere of south west
Clay county. By proposing 340 home sites in fewer than half the number of acres the
Davis Development company appears to be planning to overurbanize the area with one
large rapidly built development. If approved, this development would no doubt place
tremendous pressure upon the infrastructure of the local community, depreciate the
existing real estate and the tax base, and disgruntle the registered voters and local
business owners in the area.
The Davis Development company no doubt views the proposed project as
extremely lucrative through being able to demand a premium price for their product in
such a desirable location. As the planners of the present and future City of Carmel I
urge you to closely scrutinize the Links proposal for its feasibility in the area, and its
costs and benefits to current and potential future residents. I also implore you to attempt
to preserve the quality of the community of Cannel by resisting the "Casteltonization" of
our beautiful community. I believe that Davis or another developer has the resources to
develop a community on the proposed land which can preserve the fine characteristics of
the area which first attracted me to the Cannel. I look foreword to your decision on this
issue and please feel free to contact me if I can be of further assistance.
DEPARTMENT OF NURSING
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GREENTREE SEC. 3 30 16.74 1.79
HUNTERSFIELD (FUTURE) 58 41.50 1.40
SPRING ARBOR 64 30.35 2.11
TOWNE LAKE 34 42.71 0.80
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James P. & Rande L. Kaufman
9805 Greentree Drive
Carmel, IN 46032
Richard Klar
10842 N. Central Avenue
Indianapolis, IN 46280
RE: Proposed Davis Development
We would like to take this opportunity to express our views on the Davis
Development proposed in our area. We are totally opposed to these homes being
built as proposed for a number of reasons.
First, the infrastructure of this area is totally unable to handle any
additional traffic these homes would infuse into the area. Our only exit from
our home is from Greentree Drive onto 96th Street. During peak traffic times, a
wait to get on 96th Street making a right turn has been as long as five minutes.
However, if the avenue to work is a left turn, the time is increased
dramatically as well as having the danger of an accident doing so. Even the
intersection of 96th and Michigan Road is unable to handle more vehicles. The
traffic attempting to make a left turn, even with an arrow light, backs up all
the way to Shelborne Road both in the mornings and the afternoons. This also
prompts individuals to attempt left turns from the through lane greatly
increasing the danger of accidents. The traffic is so bad on 96th Street when
ITT lets out for the afternoon, a police officer is necessary to direct traffic.
When additional traffic is infused into this traffic pattern, 96th Street will
become one of the highest rated traffic hazard areas in Marion and Hamilton
Counties. We have already seen serious accidents in this area; need they be
more frequent? To correct this situation and to handle the additional traffic
would necessitate widening the entire length of 96th Street from Township Line
Road to Michigan Road. At the present time, Township Line Road is virtually
impassable due to its deteriorating condition and due to construction already in
progress, Shelborne Road is not far behind. We see nothing indicating anyone's
readiness to accept the great expense let alone action to correct these
conditions. In addition to the cost of the road itself; the cost of redoing
drainage ditches and utilities has to be considered.
Secondly, the fire and police protection in this area is minimal at best for the
homes and businesses as they are. With the influx of the number of homes
proposed by Davis Homes, additional fire and police would be necessary. Also,
with homes placed as close together as is proposed, there is no question a fire
in one would spread to others before the situation could be brought under
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Richard Klar
RE: Proposed Davis Development
control. This would increase the costs of not only fighting the fires but the
costs to the insurance companies and homeowners after the fire. These costs are
passed onto all homeowners in the area whether they live in the congested
developments or not.
Thirdly, the water table is so high in this area, all present homes have
significant problems with drainage. The drainage not only presents a problem in
our septic systems areas but in other areas as well. Our neighbors' and our
sump pumps run a great deal of the time even in reasonably dry weather just to
keep our basements and crawl spaces dry. This water has to go somewhere and
with no storm sewers in the area the water either is drained to low spots in
yards or down the street gutters to the creek. Even with building holding ponds
as is proposed, excess water from strong storms and heavy rains will create a
greater problem with all the more water being pumped out of the ground to where
ever. We feel this additional water will become standing water in areas around
our homes which we have been able to control to a point and create a health
hazard by breeding more mosquitoes than are already present. For the county and
the township to control this problem would also be costly. It would necessitate
the installation of storm sewers and sanitary sewers throughout the area of the
existing homes as well as the new areas. The size of the sewer lines necessary
to accommodate this and the additional amount of influx into the treatment
plants would be extremely costly to the county and township as well as the
existing and prospective homeowners.
Another consideration in objecting to the Davis Development in the concentration
proposed is the Carmel-Clay School system. The school system is nearly running
at capacity now. Some grades are over crowded. An influx of this many homes
will generate a significant increase in the number of children going to the
schools. This increase will necessitate the need for additional school rooms,
teachers, buses and more than likely new school buildings. All of these items
are costly to the county and the township. There is not sufficient time to
provide the necessary accommodations for these additional children.
Another concern we have is the value of our property. All of the homes in this
area are custom built homes commonly referred to as "stick homes" which means
the homes are of a better quality than those of a mass produced development such
as Davis Development is proposing. The standard guide for both real estate and
insurance purposes is the Marshall & Swift Residential Construction Guide. This
guide grades homes by the type of construction and amenities. The homes
presently in this area are considered in the above average category. The homes
Davis Development is proposing are considered in the below average category.
What that means is they are mass produced from standard plans and do not have
the amenities of the homes already in existence. What it also means is it takes
a much larger home to come to the same value as the existing homes are. When
mortgage companies look as comparable homes in the immediate market are for
value, the existing homes will be valued at a lower dollar figure than they are
now because they will be compared to the dollar value and quality of the homes
in the immediate area, the Davis Development. We will lose value in our homes
that we have worked so hard to accumulate.
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Richard Klar
RE: Proposed Davis Development
Additionally and on a more personal note than the above reasons, if Davis
Development is allowed to develop the property behind my house, the 38 acres
directly off 96th Street and to the east of the existing homes on the east side
of the golf course, there will be at least SEVEN homes butting up to our back
yard. This means we will have seven different homes to look at and deal with
their different landscaping, children, dogs and water problems. A lesser
density of homes is the only viable option.
Additionally and still on a personal note, it does not appear Davis Homes will
respect us and our property in their building efforts. They have already caused
damage to our yard and shrubbery by driving over our property to gain access to
the 38 acre field instead of gaining access from 96th Street or further up
Greentree Drive where access is immediate. We were assured by the driver of the
vehicle the damage would be repaired in Mid-March. Not one attempt has been
made to repair the damage nor contact us about it. If this is a sample of the
type of people who will be building SEVEN houses along our property line, we
absolutely want no part of the development at all.
We are asking you take these objections into consideration when contemplating
your decision about the Davis Development at your next Carmel Planning
Commission meeting. We will be there in person to answer any questions not
addressed in this letter.
Thank you very much for your attention to this letter and our feelings.
James P. Kaufman
Rande L. Kaufman
Jay Dorman
President Of The Carmel Plan Commission
759 Whitehall Place
Carmel , In 46032
Dear Jay,
This letter is in reference to the proposed Davis
Development located around the Twin Lakes Golf Course.
As a member of this community, my husband and I along with
many others in our area are opposed to this development.
This development is not in the best interest of our
neighborhood .
There are several issues which need to be mentioned and
considered :
Traffic - Roads will not and are not able to handle the peak
traffic now. With the proposed additional homes
it would be even worse . Every family owns at
least 2 vehicles that are driven daily.
Schools - Our schools are overcrowded now . They cannot
handle additional children .
Drainage - We have serious drainage problems and this would
only increase our problems .
Community - We want our community to remain a single family
home community of less density per acre, than is
now planned .
Children - There are several very small children that play
in the streets and do not understand what a car
can do to them.
Homes - If these are allowed in this area they will be a
detriment to our property value .
Davis Homes - These are well know for their lack of quality .
Finally , with the crime rate being what it is today, there
will not be enough fire and police protection for this many
homes and families.
I am sure if this were the neighborhood in which you and
your family lived , you would have the same concerns and
would not want the Plan Commission to consider this .
Your job as Plan Commissioner' s is to vote for what the
public wants not what the developers want and the amount
of revenue this will bring in . (Reference: Know Your
Government, Edition 1989 )
We urgently ask that you to vote a "NO" to this project at
your next meeting on May 17 , 1994.
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Respectfully Yours
Mr. & Mrs. Carl Lichte
CC : David Cremeans
Sue Dillion
Ronald Houck
John Kennelly
Richard Klar
Alan Klineman
Norman Meighen
Max Moore
Barbara Myers
Salim Najjar
James O' Neal
Jeanne Reid
Luci Snyder
Paul Spranger
Sharon Clark
Gordon Byers
Ramona Hancock
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May 12, 1994
Richard J. Klar
10842 N. Central Ave.
Indianapolis, IN 46280
Dear Mr. Klar,
As residents of Greentree Estates, we are against the current proposed
development of "Link Side" in southwest Clay. We feel this is an
abuse of the cluster ordinance. Very little of the area set aside for
community use is useable, which is a goal of the cluster ordinance.
The proposed density is certainly not compatible with existing
development in this area.
If this development were approved, it would lead to increased
congestion on 96th Street, which is only two lanes and overcrowded
conditions at Orchard Park Elementary School and other Carmel Clay
Schools.
We would like for you to seriously consider keeping this neighborhood
a single family home community of less density per acre.
Sin rely,
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Tim and Lois Barry
May 12, 1994
Mr. Richard Klar
10842 North Central Avenue
Indianapolis, IN 46280
Dear Mr. Klar:
As residents of Carmel, we are grateful to you for your service on the Carmel Plan
Commission. We realize it is not an easy task.
We reside on the Twin Lakes golf course and strongly object to the planned housing
development by Davis Builders surrounding the course and our existing housing area. We
oppose the density of homes in the proposed plan for several reasons. The type of home to
be built will attract first-time home owners with children who will be tempted to use the golf
course as their playground, which puts their safety at risk and golfers in jeopard of liability
suits as a result.
Children are wonderful, and they and their families deserve to buy their homes in an area
which will give them more for their dollars invested than this development can. The idea of
developing homesites around a golf course surely is tempting to any developer.
Unfortunately, the owner of the land surrounding the golf course has continued over the
years to ask a preposterous price for it, and no developer can afford to put homes on
reasonable size lots and still make a profit.
The commercial property north and south of 96th Street along Michigan Road, and along
west 96th Street for that matter, has developed at a rapid rate over the last ten years. This
has caused the traffic to multiply to the point where it is tedious getting around the area at
peak times without considerable delay. Adding hundreds of additional automobiles in this
general area as a result of this proposed development will only create staggering traffic and
safety problems. We have been told by the City of Carmel that there are no plans to widen
96th Street over the next six years.
We hope you will take very seriously your decision on this particular issue. It will affect the
citizens of this area for many years to come.
Thanks for your commitment.
Yours sincerely,
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ASSOCIATES INC. 4630 W1 ST. STREET INDIANAPOLIS, IN. 46168 311- 1909519
Mr. and Mrs. Ray Stair
9810 Greentree Drive
Carmel, IN 46032
May 11, 1994
Mr. Richard Klar
10842 N. Central Avenue
Indianapolis, IN 46280
Dear Mr. Klar:
We are homeowners in the Twin Lakes area of Cannel. We believe that the proposed
Davis Development is not in the best interests of our neighborhood for the following
reasons:
Traffic - Roads will not and are not able to handle the peak traffic now. With the
proposed additional homes, it would be even worse.
Schools are overcrowded now. They cannot handle additional children.
We want our community to remain a single family home community of less density per
acre. The Davis Development would benefit from the current "Cluster Option" which we
are opposed to in our neighborhood.
We have serious drainage problems and this would only increase our problems.
Please recognize that we strongly object to the development of the Davis Community in
our neighborhood.
Sincerely,
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Mr. and Mrs. Ray Stair
Date: May 10, 1994
From: Robert F. and Constance L. Wiley
9835 Greentree Drive
Carmel , Indiana 46032
Subject: Planned Davis Development
To: Carmel Plan Commission Members
The purpose of this letter is to urge your disapproval of the
planned Davis development bounded by 96th St, 106th St, Shelborne
Rd, and Towne Rd.
Although we know further development in this area is inevitable, we
urge you to disapprove the development plan being presented by
Davis. We are in favor of further development. But it should add
value and be consistent with the other homes in the neighborhood.
The Davis planned development does not. The planned Davis
development results in congestion inconsistent and incompatible
with the rest of the area.
Davis is proposing a high density project under the cluster housing
option in order to make a reasonable profit. The land owners are
asking a very high, if not unreasonable, price for their parcels of
land. Davis owns options to purchase those land parcels. In order
for Davis to predict a reasonable profit from their investment,
they must plan and propose dense housing where they can achieve a
high revenue per acre. Homes with lot sizes consistent with the
existing homes would not result in as much revenue on a per acre
basis. We feel it is unfair that the present home owners be asked
to sacrifice the quality of their neighborhood in order that the
developer and undeveloped land owners obtain their desired profits.
We understand that some members of the plan commission feel they
must approve the proposed development because it meets all
requirements of the zoning laws. We strongly disagree with this
position. If proposed developments only needed to be within the
zoning requirements, there would be little need for a planning
commission. We feel it is the planning commission's responsibility
to represent the community and individual neighborhoods in assuring
all development projects are in the best interests of all parties
impacted besides being within technical zoning requirements. The
planning commission's role includes judging the intangible merits
that can't be reduced to technical specifications.
We appreciate your careful consideration of the above.
Thank you,
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May 12, 1994
Mr. Richard J. Klar
10842 North Central A venue
Indianapolis, IN 46280
Dear Mr. Klar:
/ am writing to you as a resident of Greentree Estates because of
my strong opposition to the housing development Davis
Construction has proposed at 96th Street and Shelbourne Road. I
urge you to give heartfelt consideration and thought before you
vote in its favor.
This area already has a problem with traffic before and after
normal business hours and reasonably heavy traffic at other
times. Major improvements need to be made to accommodate
any added traffic in this area, and we have been told that this in
not going to happen for many years down the road. To blindly
put people at risk for their safety is irresponsible.
Somewhere in the future, the older man who owns all that
property (or his heirs) will be willing to sell it for a reasonable
price so that a developer can build homes with less density and
still realize a profit. To jam all those small homes into that area
would be unattractive and unfair to the surrounding property
owners who saved their money to move to Carmel to enjoy the
spaciousness of the area.
Hamilton County has a reputation for maintaining nicer and more
attractive homesites. We are very hopeful that you will be willing
to preserve and uphold the continued expectations of
homeowners in all areas of Carmel.
Thanks for your consideration of a matter that is of utmost
importance.
Respectfully yours,
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1994 Carmel Plan Commission
Dear Carmel Planning Commission Member:
Please vote NO to the proposed Davis Development between 96th Street
and 106 Street just east of Shelborne Road. The density of these
homes should be at least 1/2 acre.
The reason for my objection is:
Traffic - Traffic on these roads are at a peak now.
Schools - Our schools cannot handle additional children.
Drainage - These homes would only add to our serious drain-
age problems.
Density - As I mentioned above, there should not be more
than two (2) homes per acre.
I live very close to this area, and know how it would affect me and
my neighbors.
Thank you for your consideration in this matter.
Sincerely,
Marilyn Tomlinson
9659 Elm Drive
Carmel , Indiana 46032
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MAY 12. .1,>4
MR, RICHARD J, l(LAR
10E142 NORTH CENTRAL AVENUE
INDIANAPOLIS, IN 462j0
DEAR MR. KLAR;
AM WRITING TO YOU ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS OF GREENTREE ESTATES WHO VERY STRONGLY
OPPOSE THE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT WHICH DAVIS CONSTRUCTION HAS PUT BEFORE THE ZONING
BOARD,
To ADD SEVERAL HUNDRED PEOPLE TRAVELING DAILY IN AN ALREADY CONGESTED AREA SEEMS VERY
UNWISE CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT THERE ARE NO PLANS TO WIDEN OR IMPROVE 96TH STREET OR
ANY OF THE AFFECTED INTERSECTIONS, IT IS A TOTAL NIGHTMARE TRYING TO GET ONTO 16TH
MORNINGS AND AFTERNOONS, AND THAT PROBLEM CAN DO NOTHING BUT MULTIPLY AS THE
COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT CONTINUES ON MICHIGAN ROAD AND 96TH STREET,
WE REOUEST YOUR ASSISTANCE, AS A MEMBER OF THE CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION, IN HELPING US
PREVENT ANOTHER CASTLETON DISASTER BY VOTING AGAINST THIS PETITION, WE DO NOT OBJECT
TO THE DAVIS COMPANY I'M SURE THEY ARE ALL NICE PEOPLE, WE DO OBJECT TO SO MANY
SMALL HOMES BEING PLACED ON SUCH SMALL PARCELS OF LAND, IN TEN YEARS I'T WILL LOOK LIKE
A SWM,
THE PLAN COMMISSION IS AN IMPORTANT ENTITY IN EVERY RESPONSIBLE COMMUNITY, WE HOPE
YOU WILL CONSIDER THIS MATTER CAREFULLY AND 'THOUGHTFULLY,
YOURS TRULY,
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MEMORANDUM
Date: January 12 , 1994
To: Jim Nelson
3021 East 98th Street, Suite 220
Indianapolis, IN 46280
From: Chris White
Re: Linkside
Dear Jim:
The following is a summary of the dates in which Davis Development
met with the surrounding property owners of the Linkside project in
an effort to inform them of our proposed development and to obtain
comments from the adjoining parcel owners.
In September of 1993, we started meeting with Mr. Ken Brown, the
owner of the Twin Lakes Golf Course to discuss potential
imprnvnment'a, snrh as tho rrnct-ruction of drainago panda on tho
Twin Lakes Golf Course property which would benefit both their
existing course and our proposed development. Those negotiations
proceeded on for approximately 60 days before we reached a final
agreement on the proposed improvements to be completed by Davis and
by the Twin Lakes Golf Course Ownership.
On November 4, 1993, we presented the project to the Twin Lakes
Golf Course membership during a joint meeting with Ken Brown where
he presented the new master plan for the golf course. The project
seemed to be well r000ivod by tho mambership. There were no major
concerns expressed by any of the membership or members who live in
the Greentree subdivision immediately surrounding the project.
On November 17, 1993, we presented the project to the Greentree
Section 2 subdivision which is located southwest of the existing
golf clubhouse. Again, this group had no major concerns expressed
over the proposed development.
On November 18, 1993, we presented the project to the Greentree
subdivision located southeast of the clubhouse. The major concern
expressed by this group was the proximity of the homes and density
of the homes in the area surrounding their subdivision in the Manor
Series area.
3755 Fast 32nd Street, Suite 120, Indianapolis, Indiana 46240 (317) 595-2900 FAX (317) 595-2930
Jim Nelson
January 12, 1994
Page 2
On November 30 , 1993 , we met with the homeowners in the Annally
Downs subdivision. Again, there were no major concerns expressed.
There was a minor concern about the connecting streets into their
subdivision which is required by ordinance, and some concern over
the existing drainage problems along the south property line of the
Annally Downs subdivision which we agreed to investigate and
incorporate into our subdivision.
On December 2 , 1993, we met with the people in Ashbrooke
subdivision. There were approximately four homeowners who showed
up at this meeting and expressed objection to having the smaller
Village Series lots directly across from them. The owner of the
lot on the corner of the entrance to Ashbrooke expressed concern
over the visibility of the Village Series homes from his lot. We
agreed to meet with him again after we finalized our landscaping
and signage plan to review that further with him. That meeting
took place on January 11th where we presented him with the revised
layout of the project and the revised landscape plan for the
entrance to be located directly across the street from him.
At each meeting we asked homeowners to sign their name and address
to a sheet if they would be interested in a follow-up letter which
we would send out when revisions to the plan were made. These
letters were sent to each of them on January 6, 1994 .
Tn aridition, on January 7 , 1994 , I iaaued lattorc to tho throo
property owners directly adjacent to our parcels which were not
located within the limits of the surrounding subdivisions we had
previously presented the project to. These homeowners include Mark
& Sue Enoch who are located at 9825 Shelbourne Road which is the
exception within the Village Series area, Daniel and Donna Rimstidt
who live on the lot in Towne Lake directly adjacent to our Estate
Series, and John and Rebecca Iron who live iu Lhe exception parcel
located on 96th within the Manor Series area.
From approximately the middle of November until the public hearing,
we displayed the exhibits for this project showing the proposed
site location, aerial views, conceptual plan, and pictures of the
types of homes to be constructed within each of the three different
communities within the project at the clubhouse of Twin Lakes. We
have fielded many phone calls from various property homeowners who
have called in asking for more information about this project.
Ronald Houck
c/a Ramona Hancock
1 Civic Square
Carmel, Indiana 46032
571-2400
571-2426 (fax)
"LINKSIDE"
February 15, 1994
Dear Mr. Houck,
I again would like to express my points of view regarding the Davis Development
entitled "The Links" which is planned for the 140 acre parcel of land located east of
Melbourne and north of West 96th Street. Having lived in Cannel for just over two months
I have had the opportunity to enjoy our community. Some of the most pleasing aspects of
Carmel include the spaciousness and "home town" appeal of the new housing developments.
This characteristic can be attributed to the excellent work of the City of Cannel's Planning
Committee. Through your foresight you have produced a beautiful community which appeals
to those of us wanting to escape the over-development and over crowding of Indianapolis. I
congratulate you in your previous efforts.
I would also caution you that "The Links" development appears to be contrary to the
years of fine planning that your committee has engaged in. This community proposes
placing 340 dwellings on just 140 acres of land (less than .42 acres per dwelling). This
proposal appears to allot very little room for green space and public recreation areas. In
addition this proposal will pose a tremendous challenge to the infrastructure of the local
community. Currently the 96th Street and Michigan Road (Rt. 421) interchange is extremely
congested with traffic at rush hour and on the weekends. The addition of 340 more families
to the area will no doubt result in traffic gridlock on the local roads during rush hour. I
strongly urge you to reject the current Davis Development proposal. I am confident that
Davis or another developer can generate a housing plan for the land which is more amenable
to the overall blueprint of "our" hometown of Carmel. I eagerly await your decision on this
issue and feel free to contact me if I can be of any other assistance.
Sincere
Robert Topp, R.N :
10407 Trewithen
Cannel. IN 46032
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