HomeMy WebLinkAboutBoard of Zoning Meeting Minutes 3-22-93 BOARD OF ZONING
March 22, 1993
The meeting was called to order with the Pledge of Allegiance at 7:00 PM by Richard Klar,
President, at the City Council Chambers.
Dick Kiar introduced Bill Ensign to the Board and audience as the newest member of the Board
of Zoning.
The Board members present were: Ron Carter, William Clem; and Bill Ensign.
A quorum was declared.
Also present was Rick Brandau of Staff.
The minutes of the February 22, 1993 meeting had not been distributed as yet; William Clem
moved to postpone approval until the April meeting, seconded by Ron Carter, motion
unanimously approved.
1g. Docket No. V-10-93, Developmental Standards Variance Application for Bill D. and Betty
Flohr and their current residential property located at 827 Rohrer Road, Carmel. The petitioners
are requesting a variance from sections 7.3.1, 7.4.2, and 23.01 of the Carmel/Clay Zoning
Ordinance to allow an accessory building to be constructed within a front yard and within 75 feet
of the front lot line, to encroach the required 35 foot front yard by 27 feet, and lastly, a variance
from the entire U.S. 31 Overlay zone requirements. The parcel is zoned R-1. Filed by Bill D.
and Betty Flohr.
Bill D. and Betty Flohr, 827 Rohrer Road, Carmel, presented the following for the Board's
review. Through use of the overhead, Mr. Flohr showed the site, their building plans, and
explained problems encountered under the current ordinance in trying to make improvements to
their property. In 1972, the State of Indiana acquired additional right of way for expansion of
U.S.31. There were three homes that were purchased and removed for this project. A local
service access drive was constructed between the south right of way line and the Flohrs property
line and granted to Hamilton County. The Flohrs plan to build a two-car garage on the premises
to the north of the existing home. At the time a permit was applied for, it was denied by the
Dept. of Community Development because of the fact that the Flohrs would be building in the
front yard and it was not possible to meet the setback requirements under the Ordinance. Mr.
Flohr distributed a book showing application forms, site location, neighboring properties and
surrounding zoning, the their proposed addition.
The Flohrs plan to construct a new drive off the access road and a driveway permit has been
secured by Hamilton County Highway Department. This permit was also shown in the booklet
Mr. Flohr distributed. After discussion with the Dept. of Community Development, the Flohrs
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decided to seek a variance for the construction of the garage. The garage will be 20X24 to house
two cars, and the exterior will match the existing residence. Additional landscaping is planned
around the foundation of the garage addition. The proposed site has considerable landscaping on
all three sides which serves as a buffer. The drainage plan was approved by the County
Highway. At the request of the County Highway, the Flohrs agreed to install a 15" culvert under
the drive. A variance is being requested from the U.S.31 Overlay requirements; for the garage
to be built in the front yard; and to reduce the front yard setback as required in R-1 zones from
35 feet to 8 feet. The Flohrs have agreed that the variance request will be for their residence
only and will not apply to future, other zoning.
Public Hearing Closed at 7:17.
William Clem moved to approve V-10-93 Developmental Standards Variance Application,
seconded by Ron Carter, unanimously approved.
2g. Docket No. SU-i 1-93 Special Use Application for George Sweet and his future residence
located at 1100 West 131st Street, Carmel. The petitioner is requesting special use approval to
construct a 30,000 square foot reflection pond on his single family residential parcel consisting
of 6.18 acres. The parcel is zoned S-1, filed by George Sweet.
George Sweet, 200 E Burning Tree Lane, Carmel, appeared before the Board and presented the
following: The existing home on the property will be razed prior to occupancy of the Sweet
home. The Sweets are requesting permission to build a reflecting pond behind the proposed
home. The area is sloping from east to west toward a creek which borders the west line of the
Sweet parcel. The pond would be constructed by removing dirt at the pond location and
constructing some "gentle mounding" around the pond. The property will be raised around the
proposed residence which will utilize some of the dirt from the pond. IDEM rule #5 in regard
to erosion control will be followed.
Point of understanding: Mr. Sweet stated that the minutes from the Technical Advisory
Committee reflect that the Sweets would not be digging a well to fill the lake. At the time the
existing residence is torn down, the present well will be capped. The site is not served by public
water. A new well has been dug for the Sweet residence as well as the neighboring Estes
residence. The Sweet residence will utilize a geothermal furnace which will exhaust during
heating and cooling times into the pond.
The Sweets will be dedicating the right of way to the front of the property but will not be
installing sidewalks until other sidewalks in the area are completed.
Sherry Maksymczak, 940 West 131st Street, Carmel stated concern regarding the filling of the
pond, since the area is not served by City water, and the type of agricultural maintenance
intended around the pond.
Dick Klar read a letter to the Board from Bonna McCuiston, 13300 Six Point Road, Carmel,
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expressing approval if the pond is intended to be filled and maintained by runoff water. Ms.
McCuiston expressed concern should the pond be supplied through a well because of the effect
on the surrounding water table.
Public Hearing Closed at 7:27.
Mr. Sweet responded to the concerns raised. The sump pump water to be used to fill the pond
will not be sewage but ground water lifted from the basement--it should be relatively pure. It
is not anticipated that any chemicals will be added to the water to maintain it. Mr. Sweet stated
that in effect, a wetland would be created.
Mr. Ensign asked how long it would take to fill the pond; Mr. Sweet responded probably about
4 to 6 months with runoff.
Mr. Carter asked about the Staff report which said there will be sufficient surface water and
downspout and sump pump discharge to support the water level of the proposed pond, and that
a well will not and never will be used to supplement the pond as referred to in the TAC minutes.
Rick Brandau stated that it was a clear misunderstanding on the part of the TAC committee.
Mr. Sweet explained that there will be an open loop into the pond; that water will be taken from
the well, run through a furnace, and discharged into the pond when heating and cooling. An
accurate statement would be that a well will not be dug to fill the pond. Once the pond is filled
by natural means, it will be kept full by heating and cooling, but there will be water from the
well, through the furnace transfer section and then into the pond through an open loop system.
William Clem asked about the size of the proposed mounds. Mr. Sweet responded that the
mounds will be gently sculpted and that a good part of the dirt removed from the pond will be
used to form the downhill slope of the pond itself.
Mr. Carter was also concerned about the proposed mounds, that they might be unsightly and a
traffic hazard. Mr. Carter calculated approximately 7,000 cubic yards of dirt coming from the
pond area and would like the mound area to be more definitive in nature, especially in the
absence of a "mound ordinance."
Mr. Sweet appealed to the Board on the basis of a non-existing mounds ordinance and his
discernible method of performance in the community, and asked that the Board vote on the
proposal tonight.
Dick Klar asked which way drainage flowed from the pond. Mr. Sweet responded that the pond
will have an overflow pipe which will flow into the creek (the Auman ditch), and that the
drainage has been approved by the Hamilton County Surveyor in its entirety.
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Rick Brandau stated that the DOCD also had concerns regarding the mounds and had expressed
them to the petitioner. The response at that time was that the petitioner didn't know how big the
mounds were going to be because they had not excavated the area and the spoils of the area were
going to be used; how much of the spoils were useable depended on how much went into the
mounds. The exact size of the mounds is not known, but the petitioner has assured us that they
will be "gentle and sloping." The Board may choose to "firm up" the current situation in regard
to the mounds. It was the Department's understanding at TAC meeting that Mr. Sweet intended
to use the well for geothermal but that the inlet and outlet both would be in the pond; that was
the Department's error. However, there is a State law that applies if Mr. Sweet's pond adversely
affects the adjacent property owners. Mr. Carter stated that the amount of dirt coming out of a
pond needed to be questioned as to where it is placed, particularly in the absence of a mounds
ordinance.
William Clem moved to approve Docket SU-11-93 Special Use Application, seconded by Ron
Carter, motion unanimously approved.
3g. Docket NO. SU-12-93 Special Use Application for the Waterstone Land Co., LP and their
residential subdivision, Waterstone, located on the northeast corner of East 116th Street and Gray
Road, Carmel. The petitioners are requesting special use approval to construct a private
recreational facility. The facilities planned will consist of tennis courts, pond, swimming pools,
pool bath house, playground area, beach house, and volleyball court. The parcel is zoned S-1,
filed by the Waterstone Land Co., LP.
Mr. George Sweet appeared before the Board and presented the following: A special use is being
requested to construct a private recreational facility to serve the Waterstone area which is located
south of 126th Street, East of Gray Road, and north of 116th Street on approximately 280 acres
on the east side of Carmel. George Sweet showed the location of the proposed recreational
facility, and the walkway system to approach the facilities through an interior street and across
the backs of lots. Dave Sexton showed a rendering of the clubhouse/recreational facilities which
would have a walk-out level in the back. The initial phase will have pools and two tennis courts.
Public Hearing closed at 8:53.
William Clem asked about security on the premises to keep out "uninvited guests." Mr. Sweet
replied that the facility would be private, for the Waterstone residents only, and similar projects
have not created a problem. Also, the recreational facility is in the center of the project and not
the perimeter, and a little more difficult to get to. If attempts to rezone are successful,
Waterstone would extend further to the east with the acquisition of the Davis parcel, and the
clubhouse facility would serve approximately 53 more acres.
William Clem moved to approve SU-12-93 Special Use Application for the Waterstone Land
Co., L.P., seconded by Ron Carter, motion unanimously approved.
End of Public Hearings.
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Here followed an informal discussion led by Gordon Byers regarding "after-the-fact" variances.
A question had been asked by a member of the Council regarding construction which had been
completed illegally, and how the Board would treat the request for an after-the-fact variance.
Whether or not a violation occurs should be left at the staff level, and it would be handled on
a case-by-case basis. The problem is viewed by Staff as one of timing and lack of progress on
a situation. Attempts will be made by Staff to resolve the situation.
Meeting adjourned at 9:20 PM.
Richard J. Klar, President Ramona Hancock, Secretary
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