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HomeMy WebLinkAboutTAC Minutes 2-24-93 TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTE MINUTES February 24, 1993 Committee Members Present: Rick Brandau, Mike Hollibaugh, and Terry Jones, DOCD; Bill Venable, Soil Conservation; Jeff Autry, Indiana Gas; Randy Powell, City Engineer; Lu Ann Stephens, Carmel Clay Communications; Steve Cash, Hamilton County Surveyor's Office; and Matt Dickey, Carmel Clay Parks and Recreation. Also present were Greg Binder and Karri Phelan of the Northwood Hills Homeowners Association. Lenox Trace Phase II Rezone The Petitioner is seeking approval (Rezone) to rezone 2 acres of existing R-1 district to R-4. The Site is located on the west side of Guilford Road just south of the developing Lenox Trace Condominium project. Filed by Hill Building and Construction Services. Appearing for Lenox Trace was Glenn F. Brehm, who presented the following for the committee's review: There are currently 87 units on Phase I. The petitioner is requesting a rezone of the two acres in Phase II from R-1 to R-4. Water to the site will be available through Indinapolis Water. The sanitary sewer is being run from the east side of Guilford to the property. Detention will be provided by small ponds at the rear of the property which would run along the existing swale on the west property line, to the detention pond on Phase I as pass-through water. There is an opportunity for a detention area along the frontage and discharge into a roadside ditch which is discharged into an existing culvert under Guilford Road. The plan calls for 2.7 parking spaces per unit. These are two-story building that are consistent with Phase I in height. Glenn Brehm stated that there are currently 5 1/2 acres to the south of the site that are for possible acquisition and are under contract. If this acquisition does transpire, it is possible that a request will be made for a zone change in additional 5 1/2 acres; if so, the 2 acre tract and the additional 5 1/2 acres will be combined into Phase II (72 units) which would impact the layout of Phase II. This area is located in a land use for regional commercial and the existing site was zoned for multi-family under the B-5 Special Use. Pflum, Klausmeier & Gehrum completed a traffic study on the first Phase and indications at this time are that there is no need for a passing blister. COMMENTS: - City Engineer's Offfice, Randy Powell asked if the developer was willing to wait the amount of time it would take for water availability. Glenn Brehm stated that it would be 6 to 8 months before the start of construction and that Phase I would still be served by Indpls. Water. If the additional ground is acquired, Hill Construction will work to bring in Carmel Water. - DOCD, Rick Brandau asked about the traffic study and the lack of need for the passing blister. Glenn Brehm stated that he would ask Jim Klausmeier about the computerized 1 traffic data and get back to Rick with some specifics. - Co. Surveyor's Office, Steve Cash. It must be determined whether or not there is a regulated drain or drainage easement. There is a beehive grate on the site. - Indiana Gas, Jeff Autry stated that a legal description for Phase I is needed for purposes of establishing easements. - County Highway, Steve Milbourne requested plans on additional road improvement on Phase I LANGSTON REZONE The Petitioner is seeking approval (Rezone) to rezone 78 acres of exisitng B-5 busines district to B-2, R-4 and R-1 for a mixed use development. The site is located on the southeast corner of 146th Street and US 31. Filed by Jim Nelson for Langston Development. Jim Nelson appeared before the Committee on behalf of the developer, Bayview Development Company, Inc. and also on behalf of the contract purchaser, Langston Development. Also present: Jim Langston; David Barnes of Weihe Engineers; and Jim Klausmeier and Tom Ford of Pflum, Klausmeier & Gehrum. Bayview Development and Langston Development have filed a rezone request for 62 acres east of and adjacent to US 31 and 431 near the point of merger, and south of and adjacent to 146th Street and the Simon Shopping Center. The parcel is presently zoned B-5 business, and a change is being requested into three zoning classifications to provide for both residential and commercial use. In respect to the 18.4 acres located nearest and adjacent to 31 and 431, a B-2 business classificaton is being requested. Moving eastward, a zoning classification of R-4 Residence district for 27.83 acres is being requested; moving farther east and into the area that includes Cool Creek and a substantial amount of floodplain, this area contains 13.6 acres and a zoning classification of R-1 is requested which is a zoning classification compatible with real estate that lies immediately east and adjacent to this area (Foster Estates). If the rezone is approved, any development occurring in the B-2 area would return to the Plan Commission and TAC for review of site development plans and Architectural, Design and Lighting plans. COMMENTS: - City Engineer's Office, Randy asked about the area close to 431 and also asked about the utilization of existing (old) 146th Street. Jim Nelson stated that if rezone is approved, the area close to 431 would be annexed to Carmel and that the project would go before the Board of Public Works and request existing roadway be vacated. Access to the single family homes site will be provided by Gary and Cindy Faust. - City Engineer's Office, Randy asked about the existing level of service level of service on 146th Street to serve commercial and residential areas, and whether or not any thought had been given to an entrance from the south to the project. Of major concern is traffic impact on 146th Street. Jim Klausmeier responded that traffic is at level "C" in both AM and PM peak periods. There will be access to this property from two points; one at the 2 existing intersection of 146th Street to serve commercial and a second point off 146th Street to serve residential. Left turn lanes are needed into the site. Pflum, Klausmeier & Gehrum recommends widening 146th Street into 5 lanes so that left turn lanes may be placed in the center to serve not only this property but Regal Cinema. The layout of those recommendations are in their report. No thought has been given to an entrance to the project from the south. -DOCD, Mike Hollibaugh asked why the natural drainage area was not used as some sort of boundary/buffer between commercial and residential area. Response was that it had to do with an agreement with the owner (Bayview). - Co. Surveyor's Office, Steve Cash stated that the long term situation of drainage into Cool Creek should be looked at. - Parks & Recreation Board, Matt Dickey asked about undeveloped areas. Jim Nelson responded that public use is being contemplated at this time. - Indiana Gas, Jeff Autry--no comments at this time. - County Highway, Steve Milbourne's letter of Feb. 18th stated that plans have not yet been reviewed at this time--comments are forthcoming. Jim Nelson undertook to provide DOCD with Highway's comments when received. - Soil & Water, John South's letter stated no unresolvable issues at this time, however, there are no wetlands development. BRENWICK REZONE The Petitioner is seeking approval (Rezone) to rezone 80 acres of existing S-1 district to S-2, R-2 for a residential development. The site is located approximately one half mile east of Gray Road on the south side of 126th Street. Filed by Jim Nelson for Brenwick Development. Representing Brenwick were George Sweet, president, and Ursel Cox; Dave Sexton of Schneider Engineering; and Jim Klausmeier and Tom Ford of Pflum, Klausmeier & Gehrum. Jim Nelson presented the following for the Committee's review: The project site is located east of Gray Road betwen 116th Street and 126th Street and will be known as Waterstone. The development was platted within three zoning classifications, S-1, S-2, and R-2. When Waterstone was approved, it included the processing plant site of American Aggregates. George Sweet has recently agreed to purchase 2 parcels of real estate to be incororporated into the development of Waterstone. The first parcel is owned by the Jeff Davis family and contains 80 acres located east of and adjacent to the current eastern limits of Waterstone and zoned S-1 residence. It is requested that this be reclassified as S-2 zoning on the front portion adjacent to 126th Street and that the southern part be rezoned to R-2 to match existing zoning on the Amer. Aggregate site. The second parcel consists of 16.5 acres, is owned by Bertha Irwin, and is located northeast and adjacent to Amer. Aggregates processing site. It is requested that this parcel be rezoned to R-2 to match the zoning for the plant site. On file with the DOCD is a conceptual plan which identified Brenwick's willingness to construct a roadway from 116th Street on the south to the north property line of the Bertha Irwin piece which will become the first leg of the Hazeldell extension which is contemplated under the Comprehensive 3 Plan. A conceptual drainage plan has also been filed with the DOCD, the details of which will be provided at the time of submission for Primary Plat approval. The plan is to annex this property to the City of Carmel if approval is granted. COMMENTS: - County Highway, Steve Milbourne's letter stated that all points covered in his letter of February 12 have been satisfactorily addressed. - DOCD, Terry Jones stated that the Mayor's desire would be to annex roadway to City. - DOCD, Mike Hollibaugh stated that the department has no outstanding items at this time, but raised the question of woodland preservation on the 16.5 acres to Ursel Cox. Terry Jones stated that from a conversation with the Mayor, it was understood that a certain amount of wildlife would be protected and that the roadway would not go thru the middle of the tree canvassed area. Jim Nelson responded that it was up to the Board of Public Works to locate the road and as yet, it is undetermined. Terry suggested Jim Nelson meet with the Mayor prior to the public hearing to discuss the matter of wildlife which would certainly be brought up at public hearing, and the proposed location of the road. Jim Nelson agreed to do so. Mr. Sweet stated that the Hazeldell extension and development will be one of the most important societal benefits made in Carmel for a long time as far as a major thoroughfare.. - Northwood Hills Homeowner's Association, Greg Binder expressed concern regarding placement of the road in relation to the Northwood Hills Subdivision. - County Surveyor's Office, Steve Cash commented that there was a county drain on the small piece of ground. - Soil & Water, John South comments are in letter form to the developer. WATERSTONE RECREATION CENTER The Petitioner is seeking approve (Special Use) to construct a recreation center for the Waterstone Subdivision located on the southeast side of the propsed large lake within the Waterstone subdivision. Filed by Dave Sexton for Brenwick Development. George Sweet presented the following: Present plans are to build a community recreational area on approximately 8 acres. The recreational area will consist of 4 tennis courts, 2 swimming pools and related bathhouse, and a club facility for the exclusive use of the Waterstone community. The facility will be private, owned and maintained by the property owners and will be spelled out in the covenants and restrictions for Waterstone homeowners. The maintenance will necessitate a monthly homeowners fee for improvements. The club facility will be called the Beach Club. There will also be walkways around the lake owned by the homeowners. COMMENTS: - DOCD, Terry Jones asked about signage and placement. George Sweet will send a sign 4 package to the dept. for approval which will show maximum dimensions and location. - Engineer's Office,Randy stated that the project will require additional sewage and water facility and entrance and curb cut facility for bd. of public works. The private service line between lots 102 and 103 is to be maintained by the homeowners. An easement will have to be granted. Dave Sexton to furnish location of service connections for bath house and pools. - Indiana Gas, no comments or questions at this time. - Communications, no comments at this time. - Waterstone Developer George Sweet to look into the structure of homeowner facilities and fees as it relates to individual subdivisions within Waterstone. AT the present time, the developer is not requesting lighting for porch and pool areas. - DOCD, Mike Hollibaugh asked about the location of the sidewalk to the pool from the parking lot, and reasoning for sidewalks around the lake, and the parking. George Sweet stated sidewalk would be on the west side of the pool to the parking area and there will be a pedestrian walkway around the lake. Fencing has not been discussed as yet. - DOCD, Terry Jones said the dept. is recommending that the parking plan be made a part of the presentation to the Board for approval. SWEET ARTIFICIAL POND The Petitioner is seeking approval (Special Use) to construct an artificial pond located on the north side of 131st Street, just north of Clay Center Road. The Petitioner presented the following: The Pond will be approximately 30,000 feet situated on six acres. The pond at the deepest end will be 12 feet and will be for the the use of a single residence. COMMENTS: - City Engineer, Randy stated that discharge from the pond into regulated drain will require a permit. - Developer stated for the TAC record that they are committing to dedicate right-of-way, install sidewalks when a plan is implemented, and that no supplemental wells will be drilled to support the water level of the pond. - Access easement to be worked out. - Sweet to file a letter with IDEM in compliance with rule #5 which addresses - erosioncontrol. ROSEMEAD COMMONS SECONDARY PLAT The petitioner seeks approval (Secondary Plat) to plat 18 lots on 10.98 acres of land located on the north side of 116th Street, approximately one-half mile west of Rangeline Road. Filed by Robert Dine. 5 Dave Sexton and Robert Dine presented the following for TAC review: Primary Plat approval was granted approximately one year ago. There will be 18 lots on almost 11 acres. The pond has been omitted. The project will be served by Clay Waste. COMMENTS: - County Surveyor, Steve Cash needs to know where water will be discharged in relation to project and what discharge rate will be. There is a requirement for the Fertig drain, but will have to look into it. Will work with developer. - Engineer's Office, Randy stated that they would not have a problem with whether or not the pond is used and they would defer to the County Surveyor because of the regulated drain. If it would be determined that the pond is not necessary, our office would have no problem with that. - Dave Sexton said he would like to have this issue resolved before going to Subcommittee on March 2nd, and that the pond is more aesthetic than workable. - DOCD, Mike Hollibaugh stated that a variance may be required because of the elimination of the pond. Mike will look into a variance and get back to developer. - Communications, LuAnn Stephens stated that Hyde Park Court name will have to be changed because of duplication. - Carmel Fire Department has approved location of water main and fire hydrants. - Soil & Water Conservation, no comment at this time. - Bob Dine stated that the pond is not an issue in the covenants and restrictions being drafted by Jim Nelson. STONEHENGE SECTION I SECONDARY PLAT Tabled FLOHR VARIANCES The Petitioner is seeking approval (Development Standards Variance) to construct an addition which will encroach into the front yard setback (27') and eliminate the US 31 Overlay Zone. The site is located at 827 Rohrer Road, Carmel, filed by Bill and Betty Flohr. Mr. Flohr appeared before the committee and presented the following: current driveway is being re-located. A permit has been obtained and a letter dated February 2, 1993 from Les Locke indicates approval conditioned upon the installation of a 15" culvert. COMMENTS: - Communications, LuAnn Stephens stated that the addresses are somewhat confusing because of the jog in Rohrer Road. - DOCD, Rick Brandau recommends approval. GREEN PASTURES PRIMARY PLAT The petitioner seeks approval (Primary Plat) to plat 3 lots on 1.69 acres of land located at 110th 6 and Cornell, Clay Township. The site is zoned R-3 residence district. Filed by Dan Chapman. Dan Chapman appeared before the TAC and presented the following for the Committee's review: Dan stated that he had met with Les Locke regarding the drainage along Cornell. It was agreed that a 12' pipe would be installed along the boundary of the property and tie in at Cornell. The area is serviced by sanitary sewer. Presently, an area resident's sump pump empties into drainage on Cornell. COMMENTS: - County Surveyor, Steve Cash stated that the sump pump situation was Kent Ward's call. - County Highway, Terry Jones reported that County Highway is waiting for revised plans. Dan Chapman to get back to DOCD. - DOCD, Terry Jones stated that he had received a call from a Ken Pilcher representing Lexington Farms who was inquiring as to type of screening or buffer or fence. - Indiana Gas, Jim Autry stated that plans were needed for gas on site. R & D SUBDIVISION Petitioner seeks approval (Primary Plat ) to plat 3 lots on 1.17 acres of land located at 108th and McPherson, Clay Township. The site is zoned R-3, filed by Dan Chapman. Dan Chapman stated that he had met with Les Locke who said the County intends to repair a broken culvert. Les recommended that a T deep swale be installed. COMMENTS: - County Surveyor, Steve Cash said that the low area originally was to drain into the inlet. Lexington Farms dammed up the area and basically made a hole. There is a regulated drain easement along the perimeter of the Lexington Farms Subdivision, but he wasn't sure what authority they had for utilizing the easement. Dan needs to get approval from Drainage Board to tie into easement. - DOCD, Terry Jones stated that there really wasn't enough frontage on the property for three lots and a variance was recommended. - County Surveyor, Steve Cash stated that Les Locke did not like the proposed loop; the three lots were OK, but it wasn't really their call. The Co. Highway will look favorably upon any plans to correct the drainage. - DOCD, Terry stated that Les Locke needs to write a letter clarifying the cul-de-sac, and that Dan needs to get some support for the variance. TOWNE CROSSING PRIMARY PLAT The Petitioner is seeking approval (Primary Plat) to plat 34 lots on 19.8 acres of land located on 7 the north side of 96th Street, approximately one-quartermile east of Towne Road. Filed by Roger Kessler. Curt Huff of Stoeppelwerth & Assoc. appeared for the petitioner. COMMENTS; - Application to Army Corps of Engineers has been made for the filing of 0.90 acres of wetlands, initial response should occur within 30 days. - County Highway, Mike Hollibaugh reported that Steve Milbourne could not be in attendance but said Steve is waiting for revised plans and had asked about a field check; otherwise all comments have been addressed. - County Highway, Mike Hollibaugh reported for John South that drainage area to the north has been addressed. Wetland application is in process of being submitted. - Communication, LuAnn Stephens stated that most or all street names are conflicting and will have to be changed. The Subdivision name is not a conflict with Communications but is with the Sheriffs dept. LuAnn said they would have to be guided by the Sheriffs dept. and eliminate any type of duplication. (subdivision too close to name of Towne Lakes) - County Surveyor's Office, Steve Cash said an extra 15 feet of easement is needed along regulated drain (30 feet total). The perimeter easement is OK. - DOCD, Mike Hollibaugh stated that the petitioner is to handle street numbering and names. SOWN BY HAND Tabled Meeting adjourned at 3:30 PM. 8