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JULY 17, 19%
Members present were: Mark Monroe and Terry Jones, Kate Boyle, Department of Community
Services;Paul Arnone, Carmel Utilities; Steve Cash, County Surveyors Office; John South, Hamilton
County Soil & Water, Jim Neal, Hamilton County Highway Dept.; Mary Shultz, Tnrdiana Gas Co.;
Pam Waggoner, Indianapolis Water Co.; Gary Hoyt and Stan Puckett, Carmel Fire Dept; and Paz
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PLUM CREEK COMMUNITY CENTER/DRIVWG RANGE (SIT/V'
Petitioner seeks approval(Special Use and Variances) to construct a pool, bathhouse, tennis courts,
ftmess center, accessory buildings, and driving range. The site is located within the Plum Creek
Subdivision,just north of 122nd Street and River Road. Site is zoned S-1/ResidemiaL
Filed by Jeff Thompson of Plum Creek Development
In attendance for petitioner: Cort Crosby of Schneider Engineering and Corby Thompson of Plum
Creek Development Existing maintenance building and golf course office—proposed construction
includes pool, tennis courts, parking lot, amenity to serve Plum Creek community.
COMMENTS:
- Carmel Fire Dept, Stan Puckett says review letter sent—petitioner agrees to knocksbox,
does not intend to sprinkle clubhouse.
-Carmel Utilities, Paul Aurone says review letter sent, easements needed for water lines and
sanitary sewer.
- County Soil & Water, John South says review letter sent, erosion control in good shape;
golf course and driving range provided for in erosion control plan—need silt basin.
- Indiana Gas Co., Mary Shultz says no problem with servicing the area.
- City Engineer, Kate Boyie says sewer& water available, petitioner to post bonds; one curb
cut permit required.
- DOCS, Mark Monroe says updated !letting plan to be reviewed, signage submitted,
dumpster added to landscaping. Use of existing Barn? possible illness center at some future
date—in the interim use for misc. golf course storage. Landscape plan OK. with Mike
Holliban ► Cort Crosby says PSI easements no problem.
PLUM CREEK CLUBHOUSE (SU)
Petitioner seeks approval (Special Use) to construct a golf course clubhouse. The site is located
within the Plum Creek Subdivision, just north of 122nd Street and River Road. Site is zoned S-
1/ResidentiaL
Filed by Jeff Thompson of Plum Creek Development
In attendance for petitioner Corby Thompson, Plum Creek Development Dennis Grumpp and John
Harder of Bohlen, Meyer, Gibson. Overview by Dennis Grumpp. Clubhouse to be a part of overall
golf course development. New structure is proposed at intersection of Scottish Bend and Lynnwood
Boulevard on east side adjacent to golf course. Plans have been sent to TAC members—some
comments received.
COMMENTS:
- Carmel Fire Dent., Stan Puckett says review letter sent. At present, John Harder says no
plans to sprinkle building, if so, Fire Dept to look at again—petitioner will verify. Petitioner
agreeable to imocksbox installation.
-City Utilities,Paul Arnone, review letter sent; petitioner has.addedline sizes to plans—two
inch service to building, existing six inch lateral stubbed from existing sewer; grease trap will
be included in design. Plans are for inside service linetmeter setting. If bldg. to be sprinkiered,
suggest six inch line for sprinkler system into building installed at same time and designed
together with service line. Approved back flow device to be OK'd by Water Dept.
-County Surveyor's Oce, Steve Cash asked about status of drainage on 122nd Street; Cart
Crosby says meeting with City Engineer to resolve, storm sewer plan filed with DOCS, Steve
Cash requests copy.
-County Soil& Water, John South says review letter sent; all items to be checked in revised
plans; schedule for seeding and sodding to be coordinated with other activities raking place
on golf course. Erosion control plan provides for protection for lake, outlet, golf course,
inlets to be placed on site and to protect golf course. All items to be checked in revised plans.
- Indiana Gas, Mary Shultz, no comment.
-City Engineer, Kate Boyle says commercial curb cut needed, plus sewer&water availability
requests set of most current plans.
- DOCS, Mark Monroe of DOCS requests revised plans. Dent comments on landscaping
pian, li_fling & signage: screening on east side of parking area to be Canadian Hemlock of
8 ft. spacing. A/C—mechanical equipment on outside of bldg. to be screened; no signage
planned on site—if in future, permit needed from DOCS. Patting lot to be curbed; trash
enclosure to be six foot cedar wooden fence, iimitar to community center, gates on front.
Petitioner to appear at BZA Mon. 7-22.
KARRINGTON OF CARMEL (ADLS/TTV'
Petitioner seeks approval (Architectural Design, Landscaping, I_ihring, and Signage, and Use
Variance)approval to construct a 40,000 square feet assisted living center for senior citizens on 3.17
acres. The site is located at 301 Executive Drive within the Executive Commons area.. The site is
zoned B-8Business.
Filed by Andy Weeks or the Karrington Communities.
Present for petitioner: Andrew Weeks and Mike Concilla of Karrington; Bob Hatfield and Valerie
M trione ofNBBJ, Inc.; Norman Taylor, Woolpert Consultants; and Mick Scheetz of Century 21
Sctieetz Co. Proposed is a two story, assisted living f ciiity to house Alzheimer residents or other
senior citizens affected with cognitive impairment. Existing acuities in Cleveland, Columbus, and
Dayton, and two under construction in Indianapolis. Project exterior and interior to be residtsrial
in nature. Typical resident is mid-80's, Bail. Facility is alternative to nursing home care, Licensed by
State of Indiana as comprehensive care fariiity.
C0IN MENTS:
Carmel Fire Dept., Stan says comment letter sent—as yet no response—petitioner says
overlooked. Petitioner to sprinkle building. Petitioner & Fire Dept. to meet and discuss fire
dept. connection. Petitioner agreeable to knocksbox installation. Height (8t width) of main
entryway to accommodate ambulance—petitioner to doublecheck. Installation of additional
fire hydrants? Petitioner says will re-evaluate. Limited access to all sides of building—
i especially kitchen area, petitioner to work with Fire Dept. Delivery area? Petitioner says no
-- semi-trucks, only step van delivery—no loading dock. Petitioner to meet with Chief of Fire
regarding site plan.
- City Utilities, Paul Arnone says revised plans reviewed and comment letter sent—major
concern regarding 8 inch line and splitting to 6 inch outside in a vault—flat acceptable. Water
line to property into existing "r--require 18 inch separation between sewer and water lines;
back ow device needed; kitchen required to have grease trap.
- County Surveyor. Steve Cash no comment.
- County Soii & Water, John South says drainage flow from north to South needs to be
maintained; sheet drainage offsite to adjacent properties. Original overall site plan may have
been directed internally to detention basin—petitioner sheeting over half the site to east or
south—manhole on southwest corner flows what direchon? Surrounding storm sewer may
not have capacity for subject site; design plan for commercial park? Draining to detention
area at northwest corner of site—a large portion does not. Erosion control under jurisdiction
of Rule 5—Request toll size sheet of erosion control plan, and will send a review. No glaring
problem with erosion control except seeding language.
- .✓lick Schee says with this development, other retention ponds will be installed.
- Indiana Gas, Mary Shultz no comment
-City Engineer, Kate Boyle requests cross section of detention area, petitioner needs sewer
and water avaiinbiiity; curb cut request for BPW.
- DOCS, Mark Monroe's comments submitted; requests detail of six foot privacy fence
around courtyard in back. Traffic Issue: study to be submitted; 38 spaces shown on plan
more than petitioner requires—parking for staff and 18 spaces for guests; one parking space
for every two units. Adt'l asphalt for fire dept? if so, look at idriitional space for turn around
for trucks. Landscape plan submitted, pkg. lot will be paved and curbed. Pedestrian access
From Executive Drive to be tied in with sidewalks in front of bldg. Plat vacation application
being worked on—eleva ion to be submitted. Gazebo not to be included in this property, will
send revised plan. Petitioner to bring Sample Board to show materials to commission
members; petitioner to provide information on lighting,(looking for downlighting). Petitioner
working on plat vacation materials.
- Andy Weeks will submit updated plans prior to Commission meeting. Petitioner intending
to keep trees on north and east property line as well as existing fencing—there will be no
outside storage space.
PARKS AT SPRING MILL. SECTION 5 (SP)
Petitioner seeks approval (Secondary Plat) to construct 49 lots on 14.67 acres. The site is located
east of Springmill Road and south of 136th Street. The site is zoned S-1Residentiai (cluster).
Filed by Lance Ferrell of Schneider Engineering and Steve Rantnaw of Estridge Development.
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In attendance for applicant: Ken Brasseur and Tim Waiter of Estridge Development; Lance Ferrell
of Schneider Engineering. Construction of finnt section of entire project.
COM ENTS:
- Carmel Fire Dept., Stan Puckett sent comment letter—all OK
- County Surveyor's Office, Steve Cash will submit comment letter. In general, need
approved details, nothing major. How to drain barrow pit? Petitioner says ripirap—spillway.
Erosion protection a concern. Dead end easement at end of lot 39 and 42--request extended -
for accessibility —need letters of credit, petition for non-enforcement, proposed basin plan.
-County Soil& Water, John South says comment letter submitted; agree with Steve Cash's
comments—outlet for pond should be beefed up; recommends adding gravel construction
drive to bldg. lot specifications; watershed for area exceeds capacity of silt fence—suggest
diversion and sediment basin (crnall pond?) to protect Williams Creek. Floodway to be
seeded—petitioner will clean up and seed area, install walking trails, etc.; petitioner will install
diversion swale to north. Requests revised plans.
-City Fn neer, Kate Boyle says large portion of site is sheet drainage—needs drainage talcs.
Requests bond for streets, sidewalk-c, curbs, monument markers, street signs, storm sewers.
• Tndiana Gas Co., Mary ShuItt no comment
- Indpls. Power & Light, Pam Waggoner says water layout sent to petitioner—need final
drawings.
-DOCS, Mark Monroe says Department comments submitted. BPW members to be added
to plat for signature; landscape plan identical to primary; sidewalk installed; perimeter fencing
started; landscape comments to be submitted to petitioner; no curb CZ approval needed;
water, storm and sanitary handled by others—not City of Carmel. Lance Ferrell says 1 MA
has no jurisdiction—petitioner to show toodway lines on plans; petitioner to submit letter to
the effect rhar building pads not located in floodway.
MARSH AND VILLAGE PANTRY (DPJADLS)
Petitioner seeks approval(Development Plan and Architectural Design, Landscaping, T.i )ning, and
Signage)to construct a 84,200 square feet grocery store and a 4,700 square feet convenience store
on 14.54 acres. The site is located on the northeast corner of 106th Street and M chigan Road. The
site is zoned 3-2/Business.
Filed by Mark Obergfell of Weihe Engineers.
In aTrnrance for applicant Jim Nelson, Nelson & Frankenberger, Lennie Hayes and Chuck Wright
ofMarsh Supermarkets;Bill FWhribai . .A&F Engineering;Mark Obergfell of Weihe Engineers. Also
in�rtendance area resident Susan Sech.
Traffic impact analysis submitted; driveway permit sled for southern most access point from&Gchigan
Road. Department's review letter received—response forthcoming. Marsh proposes to construct two
bldgs. (Marsh and Village Pantry) on 14 acres under one ownership entity. Village Pantry and car
wash located on southwest corner of parcel; supermarket on north end of site. Village Pantry to have
drive-up window. There are two inter-connected retention ponds for storm water with outlet to
ditch along 421. Majority of site drains toward southwest. Three drive cuts proposed 011'421 and
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one off 106th Street. Plans have been submitted to INDOT. Clay Regional Waste sanitary sewer
along south side of 106th Street as well as overhead power lines on both frontages; 16 inch water
main from Indpls. Waxer on both sides of street.
COMMENTS:
-Carmel Fire Dept., Stan Puckett says comment letter sena requests meeting with petitioner
regarding sire hydrant locanons and sprinkler location, also knocksbox.
- County Highway, nra Neal says comment letter sent to petitioner, curb detail OK.
Petitioner will work with highway dept., permit form needed for driveways.
- County Surveyors Office, Steve Cash needs outlet request permit for Park Northwestern
drain to the south on west side of 421. Condition of swale? Petitioner says State Highway
is developing improvements on 421—petitioner hopes to be picked up by State storm system.
Steve Cash recommends safety ledge on ponds—Steve Cash suggests meeting with Mark
Obereil and petitioner.
- County Soil & Water, John South says at rezone of property, drainage ran thru Estridge
property—now being radically changed and John South does not like to see it redone.
Hamilton Business Park to south has design for roadside swale culvert of handling drainage
coming their way from this project Drainage improvements shown to south are not adequate
according to previous engineers design. Condition of entrance culvert downstream at 106th?
Not known to petitioner. Property to north drains to the south.
- Tnriinna Gas Co., Mary Shultz says gas is available in area and can serve.
- Indianapolis Water Co. Pam Waggoner says 15 inch math at 106th Street requires fee for
connection--no tap fee for Michigan Road main.
DOCS, Mike Hollibaugh says directional islands to be located at ends to serve for traffic
circulation, especially entrance off Michigan Road. Choice of plant species not good.—
viburnum and bayberry too tail for site as well as hammer maple and magnolias are site
problems for future. Potential disease problems with ban Pines at perimeter buffer.
Mike will submit comments in letter form.
-DOCS, Mark Monroe says review letter submitted July 1st. Original survey indicates two
separate parcels--petitioner says one parcel of real estate, two building, under one
ownership. Summary of roadway improvements: Mark Obergfeil says proposal on 421
involves creating a iuil width right turn lane along 421 the entire length of property, varies
from 6 to 9 it. for a 12 foot lane, 170 r3:taper into normal traffic lane (will be torn out in
a few years for redo by INDOT). Widening along 421 to create decal lane, affil width right
nun lane into development, and lett turn.lane into development as well as providing for three
traffic lanes. Summary of updated traffic study..by Bill Featibach: new traffic count in March-
-issue of curb cuts, Mark says current pian does not align cuts, petitioner reviewing. Mark
suggests recommending to DOT that they reconsider and perhaps combine curb cuts to
accommodate traffic for both Marsh and Village Pantry farther north—three cuts not really
needed—petitioner to review. Mark says foundation plantings required for Village Pantry, and
canopy for gas station: parking requirement for Vinage Pantry needs to be redone and parking
lots curbed. Petitioner states he is not acquiring : acre parcel to the east. Dept. requests
conceptual pian; pedestrian access to both buildings from Michigan Road and 106th Street
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Access from Weston Community to be incorporated into Marsh site plan. ADLS requires
color elevations; sis}iage exceeds ordinance requirements; request additional info on signage
for ATM machine/Union Federal; also need additional information on lighting, outdoor cart
storage, outdoor storage of materials. Terry Jones suggests meeting with petitioner to review
Dent. concerns.
- Jim Nelson says project will probably go before Commission in September.
BEESON SURGERY INS frru rE (DP/ADLS)
Petitioner seeks approval (Development Plan and Architectural Design, Landscaping, Lighting, and
Signage) to construct a 15,000 square feet office building on 6.137 acres. The site is located on the
southwest corner of 136th Street and U.S. 31. The site is zoned B-5/Business.
Filed by Jim Nelson of Nelson and Frankenberger.
In attendance: rim Nelson, attorney; Paul Shoopman, Dura Builders; Jim O'Bara, Weihe Engineers;
and Bill Fehribach of A&F Engineering. Petitioner seeks approval (Development Plan and
Architectural Design, Landscaping, Lighting, and Signage) for a 15,000 square feet office building
on 6.137 acres.
Trac statement prepared by A&F Engineering submitted (update); executed non-opposition letter
submitted.. Plans are for the construction of a single story, brick masonry, medical, professional office
building within the triangle formed by 136th Street and U.S. 31 which would house Dr. Beeson's
practice; minimal space available for other related fields. Single point of ingress/egress from 136th
St., building to be oriented to U.S. 31. Parking area around the building, not lighted
COMMENTS:
-Carmel Fire Dept., Stan Puckett questioned if building to be sprinkiered; petitioner says not
required at this point, if so, petitioner to get with Stan prior to construction. Petitioner agrees
to installation of knocksbox.
- County Highway, Jim Neal defers to Terry Jones
- County Surveyor, Steve Cash says no permit required for this project; request berm be
constnrted so as not to be compromised during high water. Suggest outlet into Little Cool
Creek be rip-rapped and held in place by screen.
-County Soil& Water, John South says letter submitted; petitioner will provide easement for
channel and major drainage way; drainage improvements needed for 136th Street roadside
ditch.
- Indiana Gas Co., Mary Shuitz no comment
- Tnciiananolis Water Co., Pam Waggoner does not have plans; it their jurisdiction, will require
main extension.
- DOCS, Mark Monroe says most items addressed. ADLS items referred to Gary Weaver
for cornments—no drawings recd. as yet. Traffic Summary, Bill Feanbach: Two scenarios:
one for 25,000 sq. a. bldg. one for 40,000 sq. i. bldg; trip generation report 7,L-5 for medical
office is 37 cars, (90% of traffic would be coming orr Meridian Street); petitioner not adding
to intersection because of hours of operation and reduction in sq. footage of buildings.
Proposed curb cut location: temporary curb cut allowed orf 136th Street to be removed at
such time as property to west developed and Oakridge Road installed—curb cut then allowed
off west property line and 136th Street cut eliminared,
- DOCS, Terry Jones gave brief history of area: rezone occurred in 1988, in 1989 R&K
Development proposed a project at this location; at that time, there was a good deal of
discussion regarding roadway commitments; as a result, R&K withdrew its proposed
development. Roadway cortuaimnents included participating in improvements az 136th Street
and Meridian (right turn lane, exit!or 136th Street, sidewalks on north side of 136th Street
within ROW, overall improvements.to-south side of 136th Street, participation on lair share
basis of long term improvements regarding traffic at intersection of 136th Street, US 31 and
Oakridge Road, maintain highway right-of-way adjoining the property and remove existing
fencing. These commitments made by other property owners in area such as Flynn&Zinkan,
etc.) Curb cut of significant concern; anal decision was that a temporary curb cut would
be allowed off 136th Street—to be removed at such time as property to the west is developed
and Oakridge Road installed; curb cut would then be allowed on west property line to
Oakridge Road and the one orf 136th Street would be 4iminared. Comments on landscaping
plan from Dept. forthcoming.
- County Highway Dept., Jim Neal in favor of old, proposed commitments and stub out to
proposed Oakridge Rd. would be primary access at development; access off 136th Street
would be closed.
- Jim Nelson will review prior commitments and get back to Terry Jones—Would like to
appear at August Plan Commission meeting.
THE BEAUTY CENTER (DP/ADLS)
The petitioner seeks approval (Development Plan and Architectural Design, Landscaping, Lighting,
and Signage) to construct a 9,000 square feet retail center on 1.035 acres. The site is located at the
northeast corner of 96th Street and Michigan Road. The site is zoned B-2Business.
Filed by Stephanie Baker of the Suntory Corporation.
In attendance: Mike Walsh, attorney for Mai Luu; Gordon Mess and Stefanie Baker of Suntory
Corp. Architects. Subject site lies due east of Friendly Foods at 96th Street &Michigan Rd. and is
part of subdivision(vacant house) that is encroarhing on lot to the east; directly south is McDonald's.
Petitioner intends to build one and one-half story Beauty Center to house cosmetic business. The
petitioner would occupy approximately one-third of the space on the east end; service shops on west
end of building; office space upstairs. Storm water contained in parking lot and metered outflow;
perimeter landscaped; fence proposed around perimeter. Parking space more than adequate;
petitioner willing to install sidewalk across front of property.
CONMYIENTS:
- County Surveyor. Steve Cash has not yet been able to review calculations; petitioner
confirms that drainage is contained on site and lows to 96th Street sight-of-way. (to
intersection, south, :hen southwest. No problem with discharge—does not wish to overload
roadside ditches. Steve Cash requests existing swale be rebuilt; may request applicant sign
a. petition for drainage study in area. Steve Cash says there is no good storm sewer system
in area to east (Crooked Creek watershed). Steve Cash will submit review letter. No major
problem with site.
- County Highway, Jim Neal says comment letter sent; concern with using roadside swale as
discharge—does not want additional water standing in swale.
- County Soil& Water, John South expects erosion control plan. Detention calcs—would like
hydrographs rather than volume figures. Important not to block drainage from north and east
properties—request verification; recommend pipe size and culvert inverts show on plans as
well as erosion control for ditch, seeding;would recommend one width of erosion control mar
down middle of swale.
- Indiana Gas Co., Mary Shultz gas available? (petitioner says no) Mary Shnit,will look
into.
- Indpls. Water Co., Pam Waggoner requests detail of domestic service and fire protection
needs three sets of plans.
-DOCS, MarkMonroe requests lists of adjacent property owners for notification; summary
of roadway improvements between petitioner and County Highway (see Co. Highway
comments). Curb cut OK, any improvements need permit, driveway permit needed. Dept.
requests traffic statement for peak hours of traffic generation; full traffic impact study may
be needed. Walsh says plat vacation rfied. Mark Monroe will submit comments on landscape
plan; comments on parking space requirements based on retail space. Request sidewalk
installation on 96th Street one foot inside ROW, 5 feet wide. ADLS application—requests
label building material, color elevation for plan commission review; proposed signage OI_
Outdoor mechanical equipment to be landscaped; no outdoor products to be displayed; set
for August BZA meeting.
-County I-Eghway, Jim Neal says already a deceleration lane and taper in front of property;
any roadway improvements in right-of-way area require State approval; driveway permit
required.
HARRY BOWSER'S NORTHRIDGE ADDITION (v1
Petitioner seeks approval (Plat Vacation) to vacate 12 lots of the Northridge Subdivision. The site
is located at the northeast corner of 103rd Street and Pennsyiania Street. The site is zoned B-
7/Business.
Filed by Dave Coots of Coots, Henke and Wheeler.
Dave Coots for petitioner—property has already been annexed, plat vararion being songs
COMMENTS:
- Carmel Fire Dept., Stan Puckett no comment
- County Soil & Water, John South agreeable
- County Highway, J-im Neal sent comment letter to Stan Neal at Weihe Engineers regarding
right of way.
- County Surveyor, Steve Cash says Cara Knotts drain at 103rd and Pennsylvania,
appropriate petznits required.
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TOP VALUE FABRICS (ILP)
Petitioner seeks approval (Building Permit) to construct a building addition and parking lot addition.
The site is located at 401 West Carmel Drive. The site is zoned I-1/Industrial.
Filed by Dan Johnson of Johnson Barnett Enterprises.
In attendance, Dan Johnson for Top Value Fabrics. Project on west Carmel Drive to rear of existing
Top Value—propose to rework existing truck dock and warehouse space; some parking to be added
in previously landbanked space plus some addition. Retention basin to be revisited.
COMMENTS:
- Carmel Fire Dept., Stan Puckett says comment letter sent; petitioner intends to have a
firewall and not sprinkle the building. Petitioner is agreeable to knocksbox.
- County Highway, Jim Neal no comment
- County Surveyor, Steve Cash says comment letter sent; requests outlet request form;
petitioner will comply with review letter, Steve requests revised calculations.
-County Soil & Water, John South echoes Steve Cash's letter—erosion control needs some
seeding specifications, suggest sediment trap in outlet channel, otherwise OK.
- Indiana Gas, Mary Shultz no comment
- Indiana Gas, Pam Waggoner no comment
- DOCS, Mark Monroe requests petitioner submit revised plans.
CARLSON OFFICE AND RETAIL BUILDING (DP/ADLS/Vl
Petitioner seeks approval (Development Plan and Architectural Design, Landscaping, Lighting, and
Signage, and Variances) to construct building additions and to do other site improvements on 3.6
acres. The site i s located at 9840 -9870 Michigan Road. The site is zoned I-1/IndustriaL
Filed by Reed Carlson of Currise and Carison.
In attendance: Reed Carison and Allen Carlson of Currise& Carlson, Brad Barnes of Cuppy Graef
& Turner, Architects. Over by Reed Carlson—current bldgs. fronting Michigan Road, constructed
of concrete block and brick. Additional building (warehouse) to the rear of aluminum siding.
Currently requesting add-on to NAPA building and pole barn.
COMMENTS:
- Carmel Fire Dept., Gary Hoyt, petitioner is not sprinkling either building; petitioner
agreeable to knocksbox installation; request more detailed plans.
- County Highway, Jim Neal says comment letter sent.
- County Surveyor, Steve Cash questioned drainage calcs and whether or not pre-developed
ten year storm had been addressed. Brad Barnes responded affirmatively.
- County Soil&Water, John South says comment letter sent; property less than 5 acres and
rule 5 does not apply; request adjacent ground be shown for overall drainage; requests
erosion control and construction plans; chance part of property to rear being jurisdictional
wetlands and possibly used for storm water detention.
- Indiana Gas, Mary Shultz says gas lines existing—if re-located, probably a fee.
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- Indianapolis Water Co., Pam Waggoner regarding 16 inch main on east side of Michigan,
requests petitioner submit plans before re-locating.
- DOCS, Mark Monroe asked about future plans for rear of property; petitioner sees no need
for conceptual plan for adjacent ground; Dept. will provide written comments on landscape
plan. Signage: petitioner will keep existing. Biking/wallcing path on either side of Michigan
Road? Time Frame?
MERCHANTS SQUARE WEST BUILDING (ADLS)
Petitioner seeks approval (Architectural Design, Landscaping, Lighting and Signage) to construct a
26,000 square feet shopping center on 5.9 acres of land. The site is located at the northwest corner
of Medical Drive East and AAA Way, just west of the existing Keystone Square Mall. The site is
zoned B-8/Business.
Filed by Tim Nelson of Nelson and Frankenberger on behalf of the Linder Company.
In attendance: April Hensley, Leech, Hensley Architects; Phil Warrenburg and Julie Perry of Weihe
Engineers;Dick Proffitt and Craig Hessee, The Linder Co. Overview by Tim Nelson, attorney. The
Linder Group has agreed to purchase the entire Keystone Square Shopping Center, to be known as
Merchants Square. Some existing tenants to be relocated while new building (25,000 square feet)
being built and located at the intersection of Medical Drive East and AAA Way, directly west of
existing west end of center and immediately south of post office. The subject site is 5.903 acres and
is zoned B-8/Business District. ADLS approval required by Plan Commission. Plans have been
delivered to Utilities Dept., Engineer's Office; Fire Chief; County Surveyor, and County Soil and
Water Conservation.
Dick Proffitt of The Linder Company reviewed the proposed development: plan will accommodate
16 tenants, approximately 1,600 square feet per tenant; will be relocating three existing tenants to
create 3200 square feet for additional tenants. Elevation and design will be similar to Marsh Plaza
on Carmel Drive. Underground storage for water retention. Parapet wall will be used to the rear
of building at AAA Way; underground storage for water retention. Landscape plan to include
crabapple, spirea, juniper ground cover with seasonal floral displays at corners; shrub screening;
Australian Pine and Norway Spruce to rear of building.
Terry Jones, DOCS, says possible appearance at Plan Commission in August for ADLS review. The
project is essentially a redevelopment. Request comments from all TAC members prior to August
20 Plan Commission.
COMMENTS:
- Carmel Fire Dept., Gary Hoyt says if building to be sprinklered, petitioner to contact fire
department immediately—request meeting with petitioner.
- City Engineer, Kate Boyle confirmed sewer availability, curb access. Unfamiliar with
underground system, storm layout—will review plans and comment.
- County Surveyor, Steve Cash says county office has no permits—recommends showing
detail of underground storage area
- County Soil& Water Conservation, John South calculations indicate all underground pipes—
petitioner confirms, 48 inch pipes. John South recommends erosion control plan, says onsite
drainage OK. Property under 5 acre rule and petitioner should apply.
- Indiana Gas Co., Mary Shultz no comment.
- Indianapolis Water Co., Pam Waggoner no comment.
- Cannel Utilities, Paul Arnone says backflow device required—has not yet seen plans.
- City Attorney Deb Grisham& John Molitor, reiterated the importance of this project to the
City and asked that TAC members use due diligence in comments/response.
-DOCS, Terry Jones questioned offsite infrastructure items (none), Tim Nelson says warrant
analysis done for automatic signal at AAA Way and western entrance into center(presently
an exit only at National City Bank), which would be realigned. Signal requires ordinance
from City Council.
FULLER REZONE (Z)
Petitioner seeks approval(Rezone)to rezone 68 acres of land from S-1/Residential to B-5/Business.
The site is located at the northwest corner of 96th Street and Westfield Boulevard. The site is zoned
S-1/Residential.
Filed by Dave Coots of Coots Henke and Wheeler on behalf of Eaton and Lauth.
In attendance: Mark Burcope, Eaton & Lauth; Richard Henderson, Schneider Engineering; Becky
Feigh, Simmons& Assoc. Overview by Mark Burcope. Petitioner proposes a class A officetbusiness
park. Indianapolis Water to service; Clay Regional Waste; existing lake facility; outlets to Rehm
Creek; Power and Utilities existing.
COMMENTS:
- Cannel Fire Dept., Gary Hoyt no comment at this time.
- County Highway, Tim Neal says comment letter sent; County would like 96th Street
extended as part of this project.
- County Surveyor, Steve Cash questioned annexation status—application currently in process.
Problem with Rehm Creek culvert under interstate; culvert initially installed too high. Rehm
Creek could be regulated and reconstructed. Petitioner needs to be aware—improvements to
be anticipated for Rehm Creek. At present, Rehm Creek not county regulated. Steve Cash
asks petitioner to return to TAC.
- County Soil& Water, John South says soils around pit are orphans—would recommend soil
borings before constructing. Two wetlands on site to be considered in design. Utility
connections existing. Drainage needs to be improved and upgraded.
- Indiana Gas Co., Mary Shultz no comment.
- Indianapolis Water Co., Pam Waggoner says several different options available; dry main
under interstate—petitioner to furnish plans.
- Cannel Parks & Recreation, Matt Dickey no questions at this time.
- Carmel Parks, Judy Hagan asked thar petitioner seriously consider route on 10Ist to College
rather than under 465 for access to Marion trail. Petitioner says potential for connection at
south property line right-of-way at 96th Street.
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-DOCS, Terry Jones says City endorses proposed configuration—no specifics offered to this
point Petitioner intends to develop office buildings in accordance with B-5 height of 45 feet,
approximately 500,000 square feet; 15% of ground unusable due to natural features; traffic
engineer will be submitting study on 100% office use for entire parcel. Terry Jones says
density will be major hurdle. Burcope scheduling meetings with neighbors in area. Monon
accessibility will be major issue. Petitioner willing to submit to ADLS review.
- Cannel Fire Dept. would have concerns with multi-story, hopefully sprinklered; knocksbox
OK.; Dept to meet with petitioner regarding sprinklering, location of hydrants, etc.
END MEETING
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