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HomeMy WebLinkAbout001-86 S Minutes TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE Miriu.tes — December 19 , 1985 COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT : Chuck Kiphart, Kent Ward, Charles Whitsitt Harry Nikides, Stan Puckett, Terry Fleming, Randy Powell, Dave Rickard. Also Pre—sear-it : George Stevens, County Commissioner THE GREEN ON MERIDIAN Docket No. 28-85 DP/ADLS. Consists of Four (4) Multi-tenant office buildings located at the S.E. corner of 103rd and U.S. 31 (Meridian Street). 'Changes are as follows: 1. Reduction of the storage lane along 103rd St. dimensioned from the centerline of 103rd St. from 30 ft. to 24 ft. 2. Elimination of a 27-ft widening along 103rd St. from our taper lane west to U.S. 31. Change to a 7-ft wide wedge tapering down to meet the existing 24-ft. wide pavement at the intersection of U.S. 31 and 103rd St. 3. A reduction of the proposed Pennsylvania St. from 30 ft. to 24-ft. width. PETITIONERS PRESENT: A. J. Vasaris, Mike Terry . 103rd - pavement now varies 22' - 24' . Original proposed improvement - 18' total paved area south of centerline plus 1 inch asphalt overlay over existing pavement from U.S. 31 to 75' east of Pennsylvania St. . Existing 103rd St. R-O-W, 40' or 50' . • Original proposal to make 103rd St. 35 half R-O-W per County request. . Pennsylvania St. existing R-Q-W either 43' or 50' per Charles Whitsitt. . Zoning Ordinance (Subdivision Section) calls for 60' R-O-W and 30' pavement. TAC members feel this should be upheld. . Accel/decel storage lanes should have minimum of 9' , 12' better. . Petitioners will work with City and County and adjacent property owners to resolve above comments. TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE Minutes - December 19, 1985 Page 2 SIGNATURE INN Docket No. 59-85Z, a Rezone application for a parcel of ground 6.2 acres in size, located at the N.E. corner of Meridian St. (U.S. 31) and I-465 in Clay Township. The zoning change is from the existing B-5 Zone to a B-6 Zone with petitioner proposed CONCEPT development plan. Property is within the U.S. 31 Corridor Overlay Zone. PETITIONERS PRESENT: Doug Floyd, R. Lucas, Kurt Moody, Pat Taylor . Pennsylvania St. 60' R-O-W, 30' proposed pavement with adequate accel/decel storage lanes. Other conceptual road system looks okay. . Clara Knotts regulated drain must be installed before development can start in this area. . Total watershed, 300 - 400 acres. . Petitioner will meet with Indiana Highway Dept. to decide long-range plans for improvement to U.S. 31 to I-465 interchange, per Plan Commission request. Concerning proposed conceptual technical matters dealing with drainage and traffic circulation, TAC members feel will work per comments above. WOLFSON REZONE Docket No. 60-85Z, a Rezone application for a parcel of ground 16.38 acres in size located at the N.E. corner of Pennsylvania St. and 116th St. in Clay Township. The zoning change is from the existing R-1 Zone to R-3 and B-3 Zones with proposed covenented user. PETITIONERS PRESENT: Len Wolfson, Dave Shaver ADDITIONAL COMMITTEE MEMBER PRESENT: Tom Welch . Access to entire parcel including outlot facing 116th St. from Pennsylvania ST. only. . Plan showing details of, residential development not on file. May be changed to a landscape buffer with fence. Staff needs revised plans by January 3, 1986. . Drainage: Asher Drain to south, also drainageway to north drainage system and outlet to be determined by Kent Ward. Retention proposed. • . Clay Regional Sewer easement proposed on west side of property. . Existing drainage in this area is not good, improvements will help. . Need drainage calculations on file with D.O.C.D. . Copy of covenants will be provided by January 3, 1986. . Water - Indianapolis Water. . Neighborhood requests property per petitioner. . Sewer - Clay Regional Sewer District. May use temporary holding tank until sewer line in. . Neighbors want area to be compatible with the surrounding residential area. 'TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE Minutes - December 19, 1985 Page 3 WOLFSON REZONE (Continued) .Site may be developed at once or in phases. Presented conceptual technical information concerning proposed development of this site will work if developed properly. COOL CREEK Docket No. 61-85, DP & ADLS, a Development Plan change and ADLS for Cool Creek Apartment Complex located at 1001 N. Range Line Rd. , Carmel, Indiana. Petitioner proposes to delete a complex tenant on-site storage facility and in its place construct a 24-unit apartment building. Also construct a maintenance building. Petitioner will need a density variance and special use approval from the Carmel Board of Zoning Appeals. Property is zoned B-3 and part located in the U.S. 31 Overlay. PETITIONERS PRESENT: Stan Neal, Dave Coots . Buildings will not affect drainage plan as was approved for storage building. . Show water meter location per City Engineer, Utility Dept. . Additional water-sewer connections to be approved by Carmel Board of Public Works. . Verify fire hydrant location per Steve Couts. . 26' drive through Club House parking lot. . Traffic from 24-unit building will outlet through parking lot of Club House. Technical matters consistant with Ordinances. ED MARTIN HONDA/C RY S L ER CONCEPT PLAN. 96th ST. west of Maraugh, 8 acres. PETITIONERS PRESENT: Jim Nelson, P. Decker, Bob Hurst, Jim Gray . Entrance road to be either private or dedicated per request of the Carmel Board of Public Works and will have 30' pavement and 60' R-O-W or dedicated easement. No inverted crown and to be curb and gutter. . Timing of landscaping needs to be approved by the Carmel Board of Zoning Appeals. . Drainage - parking lot inlets to pipe to Bauer retention/detention pond via surface swale. . Site drainage calculation not needed in that overall drainage plan was done for entire Bauer Commercial Park. . Charles Whitsitt requests that petitioner must meet with Mr. Tom Hufford and Tom Welch to discuss curb cut on 96th St. and proposed improvements to 96th ST. . Road draining to inlets and pipe to existing swale. . Fire hydrant location to Chief Couts for review and approval. . Need recorded easement for existing ditch per Kent Ward. . Also need perimeter easement per Ordinance per Tom Welch. . Carmel Sanitary Sewer System to be discussed in detail with Tom Welch, lines and lift station. . Indianapolis Water. TAC recommended petitioner meet with TAC members for discussion on needed detailed information. 0-, a . CARMIIL BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS MINUTES - JANUARY 29 , 1986 110 The regular meeting of the Carmel Board of Zoning Appeals was called to order by the chairman, Warren Saunders, at 7:00 P.M. , January 29, 1986 at the City Meeting Hall. The meeting opened with the Pledge of Allegiance. Roll was called and members present were: Warren Saunders, Bill McFadden, Ila Badger and Richard Dowell. Jeanne Book was absent. Staff members present were: Chuck Kiphart, Kurt Woerner, Gordon Byers, and Rosalind McCart. The chair was turned over to Kurt Woerner for the purpose of conducting the election of officers for 1986. Mrs. Badger nominated Warren Saunders for chairman. Seconded by Mr. McFadden. Nominations were closed and Rev. Saunders was elected chairman. Rev. Saunders assumed the chair. Mrs. Badger nominated Dr. Dowell for vice chairman. Seconded by Mr. McFadden. Nominations were closed and Dr. Dowell was reelected vice chairman. Mrs. Badger nominated Buddy McCart for secretary. Seconded by Mr. McFadden. Mrs. McCart was reelected secretary. Mrs. Badger moved to adopt the current Rules of Procedure for 1986. Seconded by Mr. McFadden. Current rules adopted. Dr. Dowell moved approval of the minutes of the November 25, 1985 meeting. Seconded by Mr. McFadden. Motion carried. K. Public Hearings lk. 7: 00 P.M. , Public Hearing on Docket No. S 1-86, Special Use Application for Ed Martin Acura and Ed Martin Chrysler auto dealerships to be loca- ted at 3800 and 3900 E. 96th St. in B-3 zoning. Site consists of 7 .856 acres in Bauer Commercial Park between LaSalle Rd. and Lakeshore Drive. (Ord. Sec. 14.1 ) . Filed by Jim Nelson for Ed Martin. The public hearing opened at 7 : 10 with Mr. Nelson making the presentation. Ed Martin, daughter Nancy, Hal Deckard and several members of the Bauer family were present. An aerial photo of the area was shown. The Development Plan for Bauer Commercial Park as approved by the Plan Commission and City Council was presented. Mr. Martin' s proposed project was pointed out. Marie Drive will be constructed by the Bauer family and will run through this project and divide it into two parcels (parcel #1 containing 3.694 acres on the west and parcel #2 containing 4.162 acres on the east) . Marie Drive will run north from 96th St. and intersect with the to be constructed east- west street known as Bauer Dr. West. Marie Drive will be 30 ft. wide , back tc back curb, a 60 ft. public right-of-way and will be dedicated to the City of Carmel as a public thoroughfare if that dedication is accepted by the Board of Public Works. Improvements to 96th St. , from Keystone to just east of Lakeshore Dr. , should begin this spring making it 4 lanes wide with a 5th lane designated as a turn lane. The Bauer family will install screen planting along the north property line of the park both on the west and on the east side of Lakeshore Dr. The location and the description of the landscaping treatment was presentee by Mr. Nelson. A letter from the Bauer family is in the file regarding their agreement to the installation of Marie Drive and the screening to be installed prior to the occupancy of the first dealership (Acurra) . The site development plan was presented. CARMEL BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS MINUTES - JANUARY 29, 1986 Page 2 , There will be no direct access to either site from 96th Street. The Acurra dealership (building size 24,250 sq. parcel and the Chrysler dealershipy ft. ) will be on theowest 21 , 020 sq. ft. will be located onthereastsparcelanother dealership) of The parking area will be curbed and the trash refuse areas will be loca- ted inside each building. The mechanical equipment will also be located inside except for the com- pressor which will be underground. for Teachhere bull ilding 2ogroundwiidenndow tification 6signs and 1 permanent window sign The Acurra dealershipsignfacing h St. (80 sq. ft. ) . red. will say "Ed Martin" in grey and "Acurra" in There will be no other signage . The landscaping and parking plans were shown. The parking will consist of 70 display spaces on the west parcel and 81 display spaces on the east parcel. There will be 29 customer spaces on the west parcel and 43 on the east parcel. Mr. Martin has submitted a letter to Mr. Kiphart stating that the customer parking areas will be reserved for customer Regarding service parking, there will beparking only. 38spaces on the west parcel and 71 on the east parcel. There will be two (2) loading zones for each building as required by Ordinance. The perimeter lighting plan and fixture was shown. The signage plan was shown. Each parcel will have one double faced identification ground sign on . 96th St. The sign rendering was shown. Sign facia of Acurra siqn is 30 sq. ft. The identification sign facia for the east parcel will be 28 sq. ft. Each parcel will have one "Parts and Service" sign located on Marie Drive (16 sq. ft. for west parcel and 222 sq. ft. ` q The ground signs will be internally illuminated and landscaped. Landrcel. - scaping was shown. An artist' s rendering of the buildings was shown. The Acurra dealership will be on the west parcel and the second dealership will be on the east parcel. The predominent building material will be brick which will be used all around the building. Mr. McFadden expressed concern about the uncertainty of the type of deal- ership the second one, will be. Mr. Nelson said they do not know at this time whether it will be Chrysler or another dealership. Rev. Saunders called attention to the Technical Advisory Committee report which states that the lighting is excessive . Mr. Nelson explained stating that security is a problem for auto dealer- ships. The public hearing closed at 7:45. Mrs. Badger moved that S 1-86, to Ed Martin for two (2) auto dealerships, be approved as presented this evening. Seconded by Dr. Dowell. Findings of fact were completed by members. Motion carried 4 to 0. 2k. 7: 00 P.M. , Public Hearing on Docket No, Application to allow for the operation of a one chairabeauty rshop ein the home located at 10460 Combs Ave. in R-3 zoning. Lot size is .21 acre. (Ord. Sec. 9.1 , Permitted Uses) . Filed by Jennifer Cala. The public hearing opened at 7 :48 with Jennifer Cala making the present- ation for a one chair beauty shop in the home. working part time and the shop is necessary in theshomelforahealth reasons. CARMEL BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS MINUTES - JANUARY 29 , 1986 Page .3 There are two driveways and only one customer will be there at a time. Staff reported that all requirements have been met. There is a 3' x 1' sign attached to the house. The public hearing closed at 7: 50. Dr. Dowell moved that V 2-86 be approved for one (1) year. Seconded by Mr. McFadden. Findings of fact were completed by members. Motion carried 4 to 0. 3k. 7: 00 P.M. , Public Hearing on Docket No. V 3-86, Sign Variance Appli- cation to allow for additional signage for "Cortlands" and "The Carlyle" restaurants to be located at 11450 N. Meridian St. in B-6 and U.S. 31 Overlay Zones. (Location is former site of the Meridian Bar and Grill in Fidelity Plaza) . (Ord. Sec. 25.7.04-1 a (ii) ) . Filed by E. Davis Coots. Mr. Aaron Cohen was present. The public hearing opened at 7 : 56 with Mr. Jim Wheeler making the presentation in place of Mr. Coots. Proof of publication and return receipts have been filed. One sign per business is allowed by Ordinance , Mr. Wheeler said, and the proposal is to change the ground sign to include both restaurants (the Cortlunds and the Carlyle ) on one sign. In addition the petitioner requests a sign for each of the restaurants to be placed on the building. They are to be bronze and back lighted. The plans for this signage were shown and the sign locations on the build- ing were pointed out. (20 sq. ft. for the Carlyle sign and 24.75 sq. ft. for the Cortlands sign) . The petitioner feels these signs are needed in order to make their location known. The existing ground sign is 5' x 15' (75 sq. ft. ) . Mrs. Badger said the Carmel Sign Ordinance does not allow only one sign per business in this case and explained. Mrs. Badger expressed concern for this request for additional signage explaining that, unless the Board feels that there is a unique situation that this business faces because of their location, we may end up with many requests as the Overlay Zone is developed for extra signage. Mrs. Badger related that the Plan Commission did approve the Architectural Design only. Mrs. Badger read a statement from the Committee minutes in which it was expressed that the vote for Architectural Design should not in- fluence the Board of Zoning Appeals in any way and it is not to be inter- preted to mean that the Plan Commission or this Committee feels extra signage is appropriate. Mrs. Badger said they are allowed three signs by Ordinare and only one sign per frontage as follows: they face U. S. 31 which allows one sign; they face a major thoroughfare going east that allows another on building sign or ground sign per business and they are also allowed to use 1/3 of their widow area as a permanent sign for each business. The petitioner is requesting all three signs facing the front (Meridian St Mr. Cohen stated that there is a separate door for each business and each has its own restroom. Mr. Kiphart related that it is classified as one business because there is but one kitchen. The public hearing closed at 8: 18. Mrs. Badger moved that V 3-86 be approved as presented this evening. Seconded by Mr. McFadden. Findings of fact were completed by members. Motion failed 4 to 0. 4k. 7: 00 P.M. , Public Hearing on Docket No. V 4-86, Sign Variance Appli- cation to allow for additional tenant signage at Fidelity Plaza, CARMEL BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS MINUTES - JANUARY 29, 1986 Page 4 Tower I, 11550 N. Meridian St. in B-6 and U.S. 31 Overlay Zones. Proposed sign is for Hilliard Lyons Investments. (Ord. Sec. 25.7.04-1 c (ii) ) . Filed by Doug Floyd. The public hearing opened at 8: 20 with Mr. Floyd making the present- ation. The site plan was shown. The request is for a 3rd sign on the building- Hilliard Lyons Investments. One sign is allowed per street frontages not to exceed two is allowed by Ordinance. A photo was shown with the location of the sign on the face of the build- ing on Tower I. Anacomp is on another frontage of the building and a photo was presented to show the Anacomp sign. The sign will be in an anodized metal frame and internally lighted. Samples of the sign materials were shown. The variance is requested because of the scale , size and shape of Tower I. Mr. Dennis Murphy, V. President of R.V. Welch Investments , made supporting statements. Mr. Oliver Maggert, V. President of Hilliard Lyons Investment operation in Carmel , gave some background of the business- a Louisville based firm. Mr. Maggert said they need the signage to identify to their customers. The Hilliard Lyons location is the second floor of Tower I and they occupy 2,000 sq. ft. The public hearing closed at 8:46. Mrs. Badger moved that V 4-86, for one additional tenant sign to Hilliard Lyons, be approved as presented and that the variance is to run only with Hilliard Lyons. Seconded by Dr. Dowell. Findings of fact were completed by members. Motion carried 4 to 0. 5k. 7: 00 P.M. , Public Hearing on Docket No. V 5-86, Variance Application to allow for the om fission of curbed and paved r othew Christian Life Church recreation center tbe located� ir Northview 3/4 mile east of Gray Rd. on south side of 131st St. (Seeiemapproximately Project is located in S-1 zoning. (Ord. Sec. 27.4.2) . item Cik . Filed by Doug Floyd for Northview Christian Life Church. 6k. 7: 00 P.M. , Public Hearing �, on Docket No. S 6-86, Special Use Appli- cation for Northview Christian Life Church to establish a Private Recreational Facility located approximate) on south side of E. 131st St. in S-1 zoning. mile Project ingiavect ofv Gray R. version of existing barn to recreation facilites con- y. Filed by Doug Floyd for Northview Christian Life Chuurch. SeC. 5.2) . Both items, 5k and 6k, were heard together. The public hearing opened at 8: 50 with Mr. Floyd making the presentation. Location was shown and the existing uses given. All zoning is S-1. The site plan was presented showing the existence of the barn to be converted to the recreational facility and the area for parking 28 vehicles, as required by Ordinance , was pointed out. An elevation drawing was shown of the barn. Photos were shown of the subject property which had been taken from various directions. The facility would be used for recreation and social activities about three evenings a week. There will be no signage. There will be three lighting standards, 16 ft. high , that will not be visible from the road. The technical details of the lighting proposal were passed to Board members. CA'MEL BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS MINUTES - JANUARY 29, 1986 Page; There is good on site drainage which is sufficient. The variances are requested for a two (2) year period. The petitioner plans to submit a Planned Unit Development Plan in the future for the 80 acre site. The reason for the variance request for omission of curbed and paved parking is that they do not yet know where the sanctuary will be located and they do not wish to have to tear up the paved parking and so do not want to pave the driveway now. Thus the petitioner requests to be relieved of paving and curbing and wants the access road to remain stone at this time. The front gate will be locked when the facility is not in use and farm fence is in place across the property. The public hearing closed at 9: 13. Mrs. Badger moved that V 5-86 , Variance Application to allow for the omission of curbed and paved parking, be approved as presented this evening for a period of two (2) years and that the variance is to run with the church ownership only. Seconded by Mr. McFadden. Findings of fact were completed by members. Motion carried 4 to 0. Dr. Dowell moved that S 6-86, Special Use Application for Northview Christian Life Church to establish a private recreational facility, be approved. Seconded by Mr. McFadden. Findings of fact were completed by members. Motion carried 4 to 0. L. Old Business 11. Board to consider Docket No. BA 41-73, Renewal Variance for a beauty shop in home located at 1328 W. Main St. , in S-2 zoning. Filed by Frank Bryant. Mr. Bryant was present requesting renewal. Mr. Woerner said there are no complaints in the file . Dr. Dowell moved that BA 41-73 be approved for two (2) years. Seconded by Mrs. Badger. Findings of fact were completed by members. Motion carried 4 to 0. 21. Board to consider Docket No. V 1-84, Renewable Variance Application for one chair beauty shop in home located at 10404 Cornell Ave. in R-3 zoning. Filed by Martha Loveall. Ms. Loveall made the renewal presentation for a period of one year. Mr. Woerner related that there are no complaints in the file. Ms. Loveall informed that there is a 3' x 1' sign at the corner of her home. Mrs. Badger moved that V 1-84 be approved to Martha Loveall for a period of one (1) year. Seconded by Mr. McFadden. Findings of fact were completed by Board members. Motion carried 4 to 0. Following the agenda business , Mr. Byers, Board attorney, stated that he feels members of the Board should not meet with any particular entity before the applicant has been before the Board. Mr. Byers said this would perhaps violate the "open door" policy and so not appropriate . There being no further business to come before the Board, the meeting adjourned at 9: 34. Chairman Secretary