HomeMy WebLinkAboutMemo from Wes Bucker re: meeting with Joann Green 5/22/90 City of Carmel
Wesley G. Bucher
DIRECTOR-DEPT.OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
May 22, 1990
MEMORANDUM
TO: Rick
Dave
Terry
FROM: WES
RE: MEETING WITH JOANN GREEN
Please plan to meet with
Joann Green and
myself on Wednesday at 12:30.
A copy of the HNTB commets letter are attached.
NOTE: Two things stand out:
1) not part of contract
2) Staff could correct easily.
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• 1985 COMP. PLAN UPDATE
1990 AMENDMENT
HNTB COMMENTS ON DOCD COBS
PAGE PGP COMMENT
TOC Page numbers are not appropriate for first review
drafts, these numbers will change as text is
inserted and removed
2 5 Error from 1985 Update, not an HNTB error. Staff
could correct easily
4 1 Why? It is a qualifier added by HNTB to clarify that
investigations were not made into all areas of the
Comp Plan as part of the 1990 Amendment as per
priorities determined by steering committee at start
of project
4 5 ptwrrError from scanning process. Staff could correct
easily
4 6 AlkrError from scanning process. Staff could correct
easily
5 1&2 7110440M0 This was not part of HNTB contract.
Y
Q.. C 6 1 This was not
part of HNTB contract.
6 3 ? This was not
part of HNTB contract.
9 2 Error from scanning process. Staff could correct
easily
9 4 411411, Error from scanning process. Staff could correct
easily.
9 4 ? This was not
part of HNTB contract.
10 2 411tr widievalliaper not part of HNTB contract.
13 Tables Scanning error. HNTB was not contracted to reformat
data tables unless new figures were derived based
on contracted work for the 1990 Amendment
14 3,4,5 Error from scanning process. Staff could correct
easily
14 5 #11i17 40010114004000141010not part of HNTB contract.
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15 1
. 1990
Amendment land use distribution and density was
consistent with 1985 Update
20 2 /. Error from scanning process. Staff could correct
easily
21 2 401t1% Error from scanning process. Staff could correct
easily
21 2 Doing a new Plate #1: Subdivision Activity was not
part of HNTB Contract. HNTB work priorities
established by steering committee to focus on an
• amended land use plan and an amended thoroughfare
plan.
28 "MDR" HNTB error, "S-2" should be under "LDR"
classification.
29 1 Noted above
29 3 HNTB error, correction will be made
29 1-130 Thic list was obtained from DOCD Staff over one year
ago in the data collection phase of contracted work.
If staff feels more information should be included,
then they should come forward with it. How about
some assistance from Staff?
30 last "Market Demand" is a reference to normal real estate
market forces
31 1-3 The committee discussed these areas of concern at
6/13/89 meeting - see minutes
31 last Why does this seem incomplete?
32 1 These ratios were first presented at 6/13/89 meeting
and are based on HNTB observations on similar land
use planning projects in Texas, Virginia, Missouri,
and Wisconsin as well as Urban Land Institute
project reports
32 4 HNTB error. Work effort included an evaluation of
existing transportation system and text in 1985
Update should have been modified to reflect new
information.
34 1 This was not
(� part of HNTB contract.
35 1 i1L Error from scanning process. Staff could correct
��t easily
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36 item 1 Depends on who you consult. Opinion provided to
Steering Committee by development community would
indicate otherwise.
37 1 ` '+t) Refer to rounds of draft HNTB Scope of Services,
+V specifically Task 8 from draft dated 2/28/89 as
compared with 3/14/89 Task 7.
39 2&3 ,,yty HNTB error. Work effort included an evaluation of
����� " existing transportation system and text in 1985
Update should have been modified to reflect new
information.
41 1i'ik Error from scanning process. Staff could correct
easily
42 1 Me. A detailed review of utility systems was not part
Cof HNTB contract.
43 2 4.40 Error from scanning process. Staff could correct
easily
43 3 1� 1' This was
N not part of HNTB contract.
45 lower No edits were made to utilities chapter as no major
work was done, Staff could correct easily
46 3 Same comment as above
47 1 Projections for 1990 Land Use Plan used same
assumptions from 1985 Update. Actual number of
platted-unbuilt lots from county records with staff
updates for 1989 was never accepted by steering
committee
47 3 assistance from Staff? This was not
part of HNTB contract.
49 1 ati4b Staff could correct easily. This was not part of
HNTB contract.
49 2 MOE 411,0100400Werassistance from Staff? This was not
part of HNTB contract.
49 4 Got Error from scanning process. Staff could correct
easily. How about some assistance from Staff for the
schools? This was not part of HNTB contract.
49 5 Ott 4014001644004001Passistance from Staff? This was not
part of HNTB contract.
50 page /a How about some assistance from Staff? This was not
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part of HNTB contract.
51 pageStaff? This was not
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52 page u Staff? This was not
part of HNTB con ract.
53 &54 0 Staff? This was not
part of HNTB contract.
55 - 61 � p Staff? This was not
rt of HNTB contract.
61 3 � Staff? This was not
part of HNTB contract.
62 1 Staff could correct easily. This was not part of
HNTB contract.
62 3 k\ Staff could correct easily. This was not part of
HNTB contract.
63 3 Staff could correct easily.
64 2 ,\ Staff could correct easily. This was not part of
HNTB contract.
65 6 A Staff could correct easily. This was not part of
HNTB contract.
66 1 1. Staff could correct easily. This was not part of
HNTB contract.
66 4 tN Staff could correct easily. This was not part of
HNTB contract.
67 2 \\ Staff could correct easily. This was not part of
HNTB contract.
68 3 47410 Error from scanning process. Staff could correct
easily
b8-72 40JWM should check to see if counts for Rangeline,
116th, Main, Carmel, and 126th are included in text,
if these were investigated as part of his efforts.
71 2 Na JWM should verify and correct text to reflect new
findings.
73 2 ` "1' What is JWM's opinion on this statement?
76 2 Error from scanning process. Staff could correct
001 . easily
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76 3 �� Error from scanning process. Staf�.f
could correct
easily
77 ? Could not read comment on faxed copy.
78 1 \XII JWM?
78 4 WO JWM please review and change as appropriate.
g
79 1 \k JWM?
79 2 11 JWM?
80 2 \3 JWM?
81 3 * Discussion needed by Steering Committee. HNTB's
V opinion is that is should be utilized for some
public purpose in the future as stated in Amendment
text.
82 3 , Needs to be checked by JWM
854 4 lt JWM should check and make appropriate change
88 2Od0 404100001161101111assistance from Staff? Staff could
easily make the change.
88 3 ])\ Investigations of the CBD and the Original Downtown
Plan was not part of HNTB contract. We support the
idea of a special committee/study effort for this
due to the unique nature and specific needs of this
area.
94 4 040b This is HNTB' s recommendation and should be
. discussed by the Steering Committee. This is HNTB' s
; recommendation to achieve what the steering
committee has been talking about in terms of
concerns about public spaces behind private lots.
107 1 Nt What would be the best way to qualify the term
"overall"?
108 hilik0 .The text does read residential for both west and
east of Spring Mill. As per consensus at the
November Steering Committee meeting, densities are
to be generally lower to the west and more moderate
to the east.
108 Eas - 41
Agreed. The fourth bullet item from "Western Section
Consensus Items" should be repeated under the
"Eastern Section" .
108 Rationale This issue of an appropriate planning horizon was
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first discussed at the May and July Steering
Committee meetings. ETTB understood that the
committee wanted to plan for a time when the
community had no more vacant land for development
so that infrastructure and road rights-of-way could
be sized appropriately now, to protect for future
needs.
118 A. At 441Abig604114opeoassistance from Staff? In general,
assumptions and description from the 1985 Update
remain the same. If you compare the actual plans,
they are virtually the same with the addition of
item (i) - networks of open spaces and the
elimination of the "Transition Zone" designation.
Overall, the distribution of land uses and densities
remain the same. (See graphs on summary poster
comparing land use distribution between 1985 Plan
and 1990 Plan) . Accordingly, information originally
presented in Item 4; "Supportable Population Growth"
remains valid. There have been no investigations
of historic population growth and trends as part of
the 1990 Amendment.
122 1&2 `� Actually, HNTB recommends deleting paragraph 1 as
indicated by strike outs. What is wrong with
suggested edits to paragraph 2?
123 3 Agreed. The "Land Use and Circulation Plan" refers
to the exhibit where the two plans are combined.
This is found on the Executive Summary Poster. In
the past document, this combined plan was the
"Official" plan and represents the legal instrument
which is what is being referenced in this paragraph.
125 3 4,412 Apip HNTB will correct typographical error.
125 2 Implementation technique questions for S-i, S-2 are
valid. Densities were agreed to at January Steering
Committee.
125 5 Paragraph does refer to buffering between "LDR" and
more intense residential such as "HDR" as well as
commercial areas. At no time did the committee
indicate that "LDR" should be buffered from Moderate
Density Residential ("MDR") . Is this Staff's idea?
Does the Committee support this?
126 2 Yes, by density definition. (Where there enough
question marks after this comment?)
126 6 4J. HNTB will correct typographical error.
127 5 Perhaps "HDR" and "LDR" should be included. Perhaps
language should be revised to read that commercial/
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office areas are "buffered" from all, types of
residential uses.
128 2 Is staff suggesting the use a blue asterisk to
indicate combined facilities?
128 4 What is the correct reference?
134 5 HNTB was not under contract to amend the 1985
Housing Plan. Accordingly, no changes were made to
text under Section C: Housing Plan, pages 134
through 136.
135 5 See comment above.
136-170 JWM should check these items.
171 Agree. This item needs to be discussed by committee.