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Home My WebLink AboutLetter from John Myers HTNB to JeffDavis 3/19/91 IJ...r.�../.r. TAMMQN G QCRUCNDOPp ARCHITECTd GNOINCGR■ PLANNe1:18 ::SNr/17/I Newfindy Vire/ March 19, 1991 l►ur/u. ,r,ur rul K►! ► l4uru 46204,./.t f Mr. Jeff Davis, President �•�»)41b-16x1 (i17) Carmel-Clay Plan Commission1•r6.i9•nsus 40 E. Main Carmel, IN 46032 Re: Comprehensive Plan Update 116th Street Recommendations Keystone Ave. to White River Dear Mr. Davis: We recognize and appreciate that the Plan Commission (and Cit Counc ultimately decide on components of this y il) must addition to the technical input of HNTB. , considerin g many factors in We are aware of the recommendations of the 116th announced last week, and offer the following review of Street Committee as and options, planning background 1• HNTB has recommended a minimum of 4 section of Street based on estimated future travelanes demandfrandis network continuity. y. 2. HNTB recommendations are based on technical analysis of trips e by future land use represented in the comprehensive plan. p generate site specific corridor studies were not conducted, As you know, 3. As a parallel activity, the Mayor's 116th Street Committee available technical data in the context of corridor-specific issues and recommended a reviewed th improvements) fora thissection rof 116th Streeee lanes t selected intersection PLAN Gll211§..cYny ;;t...•_.,o 1. Show four lanes in the Thoroughfare Plan, recognizing that the long-term, and all plan recommendations are subject to demonstratedan eis d and more detailed engineering studies. Indicate right-of-way limitations ns to full four-lane parkway construction, Q 2. 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In a technical sense, this option is designed to serve modest future residential development in Eastern Clay Township, Recent studies by others indicate that the need is not immediate to serve existing traffic. 2. Short-term improvements such as intersection modifications and three-lane sections are not inconsistent with the long-range focus of the plan, but a potential for additional future need is recognized, 3. The technical basis of plan development, relating type and intensity of land use to areawide traffic demand, is maintained in the plan, 4. The draft Thoroughfare Plan and Comprehensive Plan document would require no adjustment at this stage other than indicating right-of-way restrictions to full parkway construction, bion 2: Thr N T tut 1. This option would not necessarily refute the technical findings of the Thoroughfare Plan study. Rather, it would represent a value judgment which considers public input and localized impacts in addition to future mobility needs. 2. This option would affect future distribution of east- west trips in the area, and may warrant provision of additional capacity on alternate routes. This scenario is not considered in the current recommended plan. 3. Given the overall importance of adopting a revised plan in the near term, it may be bast to defer consideration of additional capacity on alternate routes to the next update. Future needs on 116th Street could be reconsidered as well, if the need is indicated by changing conditions, 4. Thoroughfare Plan text and recommendations in thifa update would remain largely unchanged. In a technical sense, HNTB long-range recommendations are the same. We would add a paragraph citing extensive community review of the 116th Street issue and would relate the judgment of the Mr, Jeff Davis,,.President Carmel-Clay Plan Commission Page 3 March 19, 1991 Plan Commission that traffic demand issues are considered to be outweighed by corridor-specific issues , leading to the designation of a three-lane section for this portion of 116th Street. Reference could be made to additional review of alternate routes in future studies. After all this time and effort, I regret my inability to attend this important meeting. Hopefully, you will find these comments helpful. We have been pleased to provide technical input to the Steering Committee and Plan Commission in developing this Plan. We hope you find this review helpful as the process nears completion. Very truly yours, HOWARD NEEDLES TAMMEN & BERCENDOFF QrA /J..4 John W. Myers , P.B. Project Engineer JWM/l j c cc: Mr. Wee Bucher Ms. Joann Green