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The regular meeting' of the Carmel Plan Commission was brought to order by Jeff Davis,
President on June 119, 1990 at 7:30 P.M. at the Carmel City Meeting Hall. The meeting
was opened with the Pledge of Allegiance.
The board members present were: Caroline Bainbridge, Sue McMullen, Frank Fleming,
Henry Blackwell, Annabelle Ogle, Alan Potasnik, Ila Badger, Jeff Davis, Henrietta Lamb,
Ronald Houck, Richard Klar, Max Moore, Alan Potasnik, James O'Neal, and Sharon
Clark.
The staff members present were: Wes Bucher, Rick Brandau, David Cunningham, Terry
Jones, Wm. Wendling, Jr. and Charlene Kelsey.
Sue McMullen moved to approve the minutes for the May 15, 1990 meeting as
presented.
Dick K iar seconded.
Approved unanimously.
Sue McMullen inquired about APA and IPA memberships. Mr. Brandau gave a status
report.
G. PUBLIC HEARING
1 g. Commission to consider Docket No. 23-90 PP, a primary plat application
for the Enclave of Carmel subdivision. The primary plat consists of 50 lots
on 10.9 acres of land located on the north side of 126th Street just west of
Keystone Avenue. Site is zoned R-2 residence district. Petitioner requests
approval to subdivide the property into 50 single family residential lots.
The petitioner is requesting the following Subdivision Regulations
variances:
6.3.1 - street jogs less than 150'
6.3.15- curvature of streets less than 150'
6.3.16- min. distance between reversed street curves.
6.5.1 - min. frontage of lots at right-of-way of 50'
6.5.2 - irregular shaped lots
6.5.3 - planting strip of 20' for lots that back onto major
streets
8.9 - sidewalks on both sides of the street within the
subdivision and along adjoining streets
Filed by E. Davis Coots for Eaton & Lauth Community Development
Company
The public hearing opened at 7:37 p.m.
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Sheila Marshall, representing Dave Coots of Coots, Henke & Wheeler, made the
presentation on behalf of Eaton & Lauth, developer of the project, a copy of which is on
file at the Carmel Department of Community Development.
Ms. Marshall explained this parcel has appeared before the Plan Commission earlier as
a rezone.
Gary Weaver, Architect with Gary Weaver Associates, showed a conceptual site plan.
drainage plan, showing the landscaped lake in the center of the pattern, preserving
vegetation as much as possible, with the homes turned away from the busy intersection
and limiting frontages on busy streets, varying the streetscape. Average home size
intended to be 1450 sq ft to 2000 sq ft., 50' wide lots and 0 lot line.
Bob Medgekowsky, Woolpert Consultants, explained the proposed landscaping for the
interior, exterior, for the main entrance at 126th St (heavy with plantings), and for areas
abutting existing neighborhood areas with a concentration on plantings, also fencing
along the north, west, and east sides.
John Hart, representing the developer, was also present.
Jane Voss, 717 Hickory Drive, expressed concern about the height of fencing (5'
shadow box) abutting lots adjacent to this project, also with drainage and with traffic,
and with children walking to school. In addition, she also questioned when this project
might start (late summer). There is a neighborhood committee trying stay abreast. .
The public hearing closed at 7:52 P.M.
Mr. Weaver spoke to the drainage question and explained there will be an extra lane
along 126th to the entry way.
John Hart, Eaton & Lauth, said they offered to make the project self contained by not
opening Melark. Their preference would be to close it; they can do it either way. He
anticipates these homes willl appeal to empty nesters, and others who would not likely
generate a lot of traffic, with few families and children.
Mr. Davis explained that the Plan Commission and the City are required by Ordinance
to open Melark.
Sue McMullen asked for an explanation of what variances were obtained at BZA.
John Hart replied to this, explained that R-2 with variances seemed preferable to an R-4
zoning to accommodate neighboring areas. In case the project was not developed, the
R-2 was more agreeable.
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Norman Taylor, Engineer from Woolpert Consultants, spoke on the requested
variances. Sidewalks will be on both sides in the building areas.
Alan Potasnik asked about density. In R-2 a density of 4.6 lots per acre is permitted.
Mr. Cunningham explained under R-4, 5.2 units are allowed per acre.
Mr. Potasnik inquired about the palidwould enteatheretention
ek at Eden Woods, then to
discharging under Keystone, eventually
Cool Creek.
Mr. Weaver described the proposed landscaping, with the effect of a canopy along the
street.
Mrs. Badger asked about an erosion control plan during construction. That has not
been finalized yet. There is no maintenance on the property at the present time.
Mrs. Badger asked the subdivision committee to specify that requested variances run
with Eaton & Lauth Community Development Company only.
Mr. Houck questioned mounding on the north east lots abutting Keystone, and fencing
atop mounds. There is no planting on the Keystone side. Mr. Houck expressed the
feeling that a sterile fence may not be an appealing sight along a major thoroughfare.
Mrs. Badger mentioned 431 Overlay restrictions, and Mr. Cunningham pointed out
some of the restrictions that have been varied for this project (8.4.2;, 8.4.3;, 8.4.4;,
8.4.6;, 8.4.7;, 8.4.9;_and the Keystone Overlay Zone. There is a preliminary erosion
control plan on file..
Mr. Potasnik asked about proposed mound and wondered what the vote was when
variances were granted Mr. Cunningham said they were approved 4-0.
Mrs. Badger recommended that in the committe meeting, the motion be specified that
the street going to the north not be opened until the develpment is completed.
Mr. Davis suggested that due to the sensitive nature of this project, the committee be
very specific about landscape plans,that more detail is needed to shield and protect
others, especially on the north side, and including fencing and mounding on Keystone.
The landscape plan becomes very sensitive at this point. We realize that all landscape
plans show an area in the best light, and that the finished product doesn't always look
like the initial plans.
This will be the first item at the Subdivision Committee on July 3 in the Meeting Hall.
Interested members of the public are welcome then.
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2g. Commission to consider Docket No. 31-90 PP, a primary plat application
for Timber Crest Bend subdivision. The primary plat consists of 5 lots on
5.89 acres of land located on the north side of 126th Street, approx. one
half mile east of Gray Road. Site is zoned S-1 residence district.
Petitioner request primary plat approval to subdivide the property into 5
single family residential lots.
Filed by Thomas C. Barnes.
Mr. Davis excused himself from this project due to a posible conflict of interest. Sue
McMullen will conduct.
The public hearing opened at 8:15 P.M.
Stan Neal, Weihe Engineers, 10505 N. College, Indpls., made the presentation, a copy of
which is on file at the Department of Community Development.
Thomas Barnes was also present.
There were no questions from the public.
The public hearing closed at 8:20 P.M.
There being no questions from the Plan Commission members, this item will proceed to
the Subdivision Committee as Item 2, on July 3 in the City Meeting Hall.
3g. Commission to consider Docket No. 39-90 OA, an ordinance amendment
to Carmel/Clay Zoning Ordinance Z-160,
sections 5.3.2, 6.3.2, 7.3.2, 8.3.2, 9.3.2th10.4.2, and amendment16.3.2 of the
Carmel/Clay Zoning Ordinance. This is to amend the sections requiring a
6 foot fence to surround a swimming pool.
Filed by the Carmel/Clay Plan Commission.
The public hearing opened at 8:21 p.m.
Mr. Cunningham explained the current ordinance requirements, and the proposed
change, eliminating the 6' fence requirement.
Teresa Langenskamp, 12871 Northants Circle spoke against removing the 6 foot fence
requirement. Materials were distributed to Plan Commission members. Ms.
Langenskamp pointed out various facts addressed in these materials, and stressed the
safety factor by adding more barriers to accessingools. She indicated a probable
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a pool cover has to be closed, we need layers of protection, and the more barriers there
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are, the more accidents can be prevented. There are inadequacies in allowing a pool
cover, among them the fact that a pool cover is not a permanent barrier. Why whould
we change something that is working? The fact that there have been no drownings was
pointed out in her statistics.
The public hearing closed at 8:40 pm.
Mr. Potasnik asked that we have the Marion County ordinance available at the Land Use
committee meeting, and thanked Ms. Langenskamp for her efforts.
Someone in the audience said that Marion County recently changed its ordinance back
to its original form. That will be checked on.
Mr. Fleming pointed out numerous comments he has received from others, stressing
safety and urging that we keep a fence requirement around pools.
Mr. Davis explained that in granting ever esby intended as a sthe a, landscaping was only
considered visual buffering, and was not
Mrs. Badger invited Teresa to the Land Use committee meeting. This will be the first
item of business before that committee on July 3.
Mr. Blackwell commented that knowing where our children are at all times is one of the
best deterrents to drownings.
4g. Commission to consider Docket No. 40-90 Z, a rezone application for
39.68 acres of land located on southeast corner of Old Meridian Street
and Smokey Row Road (136th Street). Site is currently zoned R-2
(Residential). Petitioner is requesting to rezone 27.04 acres of the
property to B-6 (Entrance Corridor) for the development of a mental health
treatment center and the future development of ancillary and auxiliary
medical/health care facilities.
Filed by James J. Nelson for Pro-Med Limited.
Jim Nelson, 3663 Brumley Way, Carmel, IN representing the applicants, Pro Med, Ltd,
Owner and Tri-County Center, Inc, the contract purchaser, made the presentation, a
copy of which is on file at the Department of Community Development. He was assisted
by Chris White of Paul I. Cripe, Inc.
The public hearing opened at 8:45 p.m.
The presentation included site plans, explanation of compliance with the
Comprehensive Plan, description of each of the 6 parcels with present and future views
of the parcels. He also explained the tree preservation program (to preserve all trees
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with a diameter of 10" or more). It also includes a minimum of 30' greenbelts along a
portion of the south, east, and north perimeters by Smokey Row Rd. and Old Meridian.
Larry Birch, Executive Director of Tri County, a not for profit corporation, described the
comprehensive range of mental health services provided by Tri-County.
The Mental Health facility is proposed as a two story structure,
patient beds, and the petitioner will be back later for ADLS approval onit. sq ft. with 40
There are proposed substantial offsite improvements, roadway, etc.
Bill Fehribach (traffic analysis) addressed materials distributed by Chris White at this
time.
Larry Ulrich, administrator at the St. Vincent Stress Center,
spoke
indicating that some of the people served could very well be in this roomr of the project,
Nancy Blondin, Executive Director of the Carmel/Clay Chamber Commerce, 3241 E.
106th St. indicated this would be'an appropriate addition to the community. Also, the
economic impact could be great, and the full range of services could be advantageous.
David Taylor, 503 First AV SE, said mental health has received a lot of publicity. Many
companies are contracting such services, this would offer opportunities to businesses in
Carmel, including the high school, and would be an asset to the community.
Mr. Dick Bird, 90 Rogers Rd, Woodacre West, backs up to the property line, and he had
questions on internal security on the grounds, the time frame for the remainder of the
property, parcel 6 (pond and park), whether wildlife would be retained.
Frank Holland, 20 Wildwood Dr., said he had had a good meeting with Mr. Birch, would
like to meet re: aesthetics and security, open spaces (wants definition), wonders if there
is a covenant to stay B-6, and not go to some other use. Will petitioner request
annexation to the City of Carmel? Are there wetlands on the property?
Richard J. Reilly, 87 Rogers Rd., said Cool Creek and another creek converge on his
property. There already exists a drainage problem with floods of 4 1/2 - 5 ft. Also, how
much staff would be there at night to oversee patients.
Steve Harlow, 4609 Somerset Way S., Carmel, representing Ken Sebree, owner and
developer of adjacent property, expressed concern with the development of parcel 2.
He questi0ns 4 story buildings, would request the Plan Comrn ion restrict height. He
questioned the cut for an entrance near Kensington, would like a buffer of 50 ft. around
th prupdr ty tie atau asked for an explanation of how theark is
setback from property line (60 ft, per Jim iVefson p propowhat
it R-��. Mr. Harlow would likee it to be
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100 ft from property line. Also, is there room for expansion in future? If so, what kind?
Al Decker, 67 Woodacre, questioned drainage.
s
tructures
Betsy Lasky, II Wildwood Drive, agrees
Wsdwoodwith rres reow,sidents woutldsapprec ate a meeting re:
limited to 2 stories. She
fencing.
The public hearing closed at 9:45 p.m.
Mr. Chris White explained the conceptual drainage plan. He said there is reason to
expect improvement in adjoining areas re: drainage. Mr. Reilly asked about any
recourse if there is NOT improvement? Mr. Davis pointed out there is always recourse,
and advised that this is only a conceptual drainage plan at this point.
Drainage will require approval by the County Surveyor's office, according to Mr.White.
Mr. Birch addressed security, and indicated a willingness to work on the fencing. As far
as internal security, there would be two RN's, 4 psychiatric technicians, and additional
security. This would be a minimal staffing pattern.
Mr. Nelson agreed to install a fence between the facility and the south property line. If
the Land Use committee wants a commitment not to rezone again, that would be all
right. He felt that 4 story buildings are appropriate, asked that others consider
Kensington Place nearby. With the quantity of trees set aside, there is a lot of natural
screening. No portion of this site is designated as wetlands. The Tri County facility will
be two stories in height, is planned to not
exceed patients is in being Iconsideeed ane he "sno eans lective
clearing
r
the creek. A passive recreation area for
clearing area."
Mr. Nelson also indicated petitioner is not opposed to annexation.
Mr. Houck asked if there would be more than one phase in the building? That is not
anticipated. If it did happen, an addition would likely be for out-patient use purposes.
Mr. Potasnik asked about use. Mr. Bird's response was that 20 beds are for more
serious disabilities, and the average stay is 15-18 days. Admittance is usually stress
related. They do receive some court ordered patients, perhaps 15-20 %.
Mrs. Ogle asked about the rectangular sign area. (Parcel 2) and Mr. Nelson replied that
it is encumbered by rights-of-way and not suited for development, has been designated
as Sign area.
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Mr. Davis asked about the park. If deemed apropriate, the petitioner would be willin to
dedicate the park to the city. g
This item will go to the Land Use Committee on July 3.
5g. Commission to consider Docket No. 44-90 Z, a rezone application for 5
acres of land located at 1139 South Rangeline Road, Carmel. Site is
currently zoned R-2 (Residential) and B-3 (Business). Petitioner is
requesting to rezone to B-8 (Business).
Filed by James J. Nelson for Executive Commons, Inc.
Mr. Jim Nelson, 3663 Brumley Way, representing Mick Sheet of Executive
Commons,Mmade the presentation, a copy of which is on file at the Department of
Community Development.
The public hearing opened at 10:20 p.m.
Mr. Nelson explained the reason for the rezone request is to enable a unified
development of parcels, totalling approx 20 acres., and there would be 2 points of
access.
The public hearing closed at 10:28 p.m.
Donna Judd, 21 Shoshone Dr., acknowledged that she was attracted by the natural
beauty of the area, would not like to see commercialization in this area that makes
Carmel unique.
Buffering, per Jeff.Re: buffering, there is no development plan prepared at this time, a
30 foot greenbelt will be part of that plan.
Mr. Nelson explained that the uses in B-3 and B-8 are the same, but there is a
procedural difference between the two zoning classifications.
This will go to the July 3 committee meeting.
The public hearing closed at 10:35 p.m.
H. OLD BUSINESS
1 h. Commission to consider Docket No. 26-90 Z, a rezone application for
Grace M. Worley. Petitioner requests approval to rezone her property
from S-1 residence district to B-7 neighborhood business district. Site is
located approx. 200' west of North Augusta Drive on the north side of 96th
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Street (lots 17 and 18 of North Augusta subdivision). Site consists of 1.18
acres.
Filed by Sheila Marshall for Grace M. Worley.
Ms. Sheila Marshall„ Coots, Henke and Wheeler was present.
Mr. Potasnik moved for move approval of 26-90 Z as presented.
Mrs. Badger seconded.
It was noted that the committee vote was 4-2.
Ms. McMullen noted that committee comments fit B-7.
Approval was unanimous.
Commission to consider Docket No. 27-90 PP, a primary plat application
2h. plat consist of 146 lots on
for Claridge Farms subdivision. The primary approx.
120 acres of land located on the west side °Zoned S-1 lay nter res deme district.
one half mile south of 131st Sat approval to subdivide the property into 146
Petitioner request primary p
single family residential lots.
Filed by George Sweet for Sweet and Company.
Mrs. Badger removed herself from this and the following item.
Mr. Klar said the committee recommends adoption.
Mr. Blackwell seconded approval.
Findings of facts were completed.
Approved: unanimously.
3h. Commission to consider Docket No. 28-90 PP, a primary plat application
for Carwinion subdivision. The primary plat consists of 122 lots on 69.46
acres of land located on the west side of Shelborne Road, approx. one
half mile south of 106th Street. Site is zoned S-2 residence district.
Petitioner request primary plat approval to subdivide the property into 122
single-family residential lots.
Filed by George Sweet for Brenwick Development Co., Inc.
Mr. Klar moved for approval with the condition of the County Surveyor's final approval of
plans.
Second: Henrietta Lamb
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Findings of facts were prepared.
Approved: unanimously
4h. Commission to consider Docket No. 29-90 PP, a r'
for the Sanctuary subdivision. The rima primary plat application
acres of land located on the southwest corner of 131st Street primary plat consists of 14 lots on 36.4
Center Road. Site is zoned S-1 residence district. Petitioner and Clay
approval to subdivide the property into 14 single family residential lots.
The petitioner is requesting the following lots.
variances: Subdivision Regulations
6.3.7 - cul-de-sac length exceeding 600'
6.3.19- lots accessing directly to adjacent street
6.3.20- no private streets shall be platted
8.9 - sidewalks on both sides of the street within the
subdivision and along adjoining streets.
Filed by Chris White for Will Wright Building Corp.
*The petitioner has filed his secondary plat along with the
application and is requesting simultaneous a Primary plat
the Carmel/Clay Subdivision Ordinance, pproval per section 5.1.15 of
secondary plat is 43-90 SP. The docket number for the
The Commission was advised to act upon each variance separately.
P ely.
6.3.7 Mr. bar moved the commission accept.
Mrs. Bainbridge seconded.
Findings of Fact: approved unanimously
6.3.19 Mr. bar moved to approve.
Mrs. Bainbridge seconded.
Findings of Fact: unanimously approved.
8.9 Mr. bar moved to approve, Mr. Cunningham drew attention
to
recommendation comments. Petitioner has committed to internal sidewalks. Staff
Staff wants sidewalks along perimeter as well. Mr. Davis agrees with staff.
Henrietta Lamb seconded.
Findings of Facts: 8-5 against this variance. Badger, bar, Ogle, Moore, Fleming
in favor.
6.3.20 Mr. liar moved for approval.
Mrs. Bainbridge seconded.
Findings of Fact: unanimously approved.
Primary Plat: Mr. bar moved to approve the primary plat including sidewalks on the'
perimeter.
Henrietta Lamb seconded.
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Vote: unanimously approved.Bill y checked
acknowledged to Plan Commission members,
ber , that when is part of the Pe miry Plat.
approval of ick Plat, the condition of perimeter sidewalks
of Primary
Amend), and
Commission to consider Docket No.n 38-90
ADLS (Amend), for
5h. Ao Signage and Lighting Architectural Design, quadrant of 1-465 and
located in the northwest q revit of an
new office building approval to reduce a previously
Site is zoned approved
Meridian. Petitioner seeks app building (125,486 sq. )
seven story building to a six story
B-
1.
Filed by Kevin A. Miller for HRB Associates, LP.
Mr. Moore moved for approval
Mr. Blackwell seconded.
Vote: unanimous
an Architectural Design,
6h. Commission to consider 42-90 n�o S (Amend),
A Vincent's Hospital. Petitionerside
Lighting and Signage pp addition to the south
seeking the approval to construct a 3950 sq.ft.
of the existing hospital. The addition is to house a s srgi alte separzona gt6and
a connecting walkway to the medical office building
Filed by E. Davis Coots for St. Vincent's Hospital.
Sue McMullen removed herself from this project.
Mrs. Ogle moved for approval.
Mr. Moore seconded.
Mr. Moore suggested this project get with Mr. Jim Nelson (refer to previous project -
Tri-County Rezone) for fair share of the widening of Old Meridian. Sheila Marshall said
that is in progress.
Staff recommendations were mentioned.
Vote; unaniamous approval.
NEW BUSINESS
1 i. Commission to consider Docket No. 18-90 ADLS, an Architectural Design,
Signage and Lighting application for 301 East Carmel Drive. Petitioner
seeks approval for the construction of two single story retail buildings
(bldg.A - 10,200 sq.ft. and bldg. B-2,800 sq.ft.). Site is located a half mile
west of Keystone Avenue on the south side of Carmel Drive, site of the
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former Carmel Putt-putt, and is zoned B-8. 12
Filed by Mark Boyce for C.P.Morgan Development.
Mark Boyce, of C.P. Morgan, 1980 E. 116th ST., made ther
on file at the Department of Community Development. p esentation, a copy of which is
Mr. Richard Henderson, Schneider Engineering, was also r
Presentation showed how a Retail center fits into present.
plan was shown. 2 bldgs with building lightingelevationstrpinfrthe ddevelopment,development.
Mr. Potasnik asked if mechanical systems on p for the development.
Boyce will check. roof are completely concealed? Mr.
The sign board is internally illuminated, and the
occupy structure. Y anticipate 6-7 retail businesses to
This project will proceed to the Industrial and Commercial Co
complimented Mr. Boyce on the plan. mmittee. Mr. Davis
2i. Commission to consider Docket No. 20-90 ADLS
Architectural Design, Signage and Lighting application for L & M Lawn and
Garden. Petitioner seeks approval for a time extension for the established
1344 sq.ft. garden mart for tropical plant and garden sales. Site is located
at 2160 East 116th Street, Keystone Square Mall, just north of the existing
MCL Cafeteria and west of Keystone Way East, and is zoned B-8.
Filed by Lloyd Long and Mike Baumgartner for L&M Lawn and Garden.
Staff recommends suspension of rules.
Mike Baumgartner, 29 S. Byron, Cicero, IN. is asking for an extension for another
days. There have been no complaints on his operation. 90
Mr. Potasnik asked if he will go through the procedure for a longer time next year.
He also wondered if Mr. Baumgartner will ask for another extension after this
up? 90 days is
Mr. Baumgartner replied that he intends to wait until next spring.
Mrs. Badger wondered if petitioner pays taxes? The reply was yes, sales tax. and rent
to owner. Mrs. Badger questions if this is fair to established businesses in the
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Mr. Houck moved to suspend the rules.
Henrietta Lamb seconded.
Unanimous approval.
that there have been a variety of people in this spot, and
Mrs. Bainbridge commented
this man has maintained the property. Mr. Davis agreed with that. He has applied for a
permit, also, where others have not. This person has been more responsible.
Mr. Potasnik acknowledged he agrees with Mr. Davis. His concern is the long term
temporary structures/uses.
Vote: Against: 6
Aye, 7
Passes by I vote
3i. Commission to consider Docket No. 45-90 ADLS (Amend), and
Architectural Design, Signage and Lighting application for Lincoln Income
Life Insurance Company.
Petitioner seeks approval to construct a
covered parking facility for the 16 car executiveBt Barking lot.
Site is located
at 11825 North Pennsylvania and is zoned
Filed by Kevin Miller for Lincoln Income Life Insurance Company.
Kevin Miller, Browning Investments, subsidiary of Conseco, Inc., made the presentation,
a copy of which is on file at the Department of Community Development. He gave a
rendering of the proposed parking structure, showed the nature of carport, distributed
pictures.
Mrs. Badger wondered if the department has reviewed this. The department has no
problems with it, will be of same material as building (architectural pre-cast concrete).
Mrs. Badger moved to waive the rules and act on this petition.
There was unanimous approval of that motion.
Mrs. Badger moved for approval of 45-90 ADLS, as submitted.
Mrs. Bainbridge seconded.
Vote: unanimous approval.
4i. Commission to consider Docket No. 46-90 FDP/SP, a Final Development
Plan and Secondary Plat application for Technology Center Associates.
Petitioner seeks approval to construct a single story, 62,000 square foot
office/warehouse facility. Site is located at 801 Congressional Blvd. and is
zoned M-3 (Manufacturing).
Filed by Jim Nelson for Technology Center Associates.
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Jim Nelson, 3663 Brumley Way, made the presentation, a co
Department of Community Development. copy of which is on file at the
The location a 6 acre parcel on Congressional Blvd and 122nd
Club. St., near the Wholesale
He presented the final development plan for the office/warehuse, designed
701 building. g ed to mirror the
Mr. Potasnik indicated the staff recommends this proceed to the Land Use committee
but secondary plat approval requires consideration by the subdivision .
Rather than try to accommodate a joint meeting of Land Use and committee.
committees, Subdivision
Mr. bar moved for approval of the secondary
Mrs. Badger seconded the motion. plat.
There was unanimous approval.
5i. Commission to consider Docket No. 47-90 ADLS, an Architectural Design,
Signage and Lighting application for Carmel/Clay School Corporation
Petitioner seeks approval of the landscaping within the 120 foot Keystone
Avenue Overlay Zone. Site is located on the northwest corner of Smokey
Row Road (136th Street) and Keystone Avenue and is zoned R-1
(Residential).
Filed by Tim Stevens for Carmel/Clay School Corp.
Bill Wendling, Attorney, requests that legal questions on this petition be addraessed to
staff or Steve Andrews.
Tim Stevens, Land Use consultant, Campbell Kyle Proffitt, 198 S. 9th St., Noblesville,
made the presentation of the athletic field at the 56 acre site on the west side of
Keystone, in the Overlay Zone, including a site plan, a copy of which is on file at the
Department of Community Development.
Laura Myles, Everett I. Brown, Landscape designer, and Debra Farmer, Counsel
school Corporation were also present. for the
This 86,000 seat football stadium, including several practice fields within 431 Overlay,
includes plans for a landscape buffer along Keystone, with a variety of plant materials to
provide seasonal interest.
Staff indicates they have not reviewed this landscaping plan.
Ms. McMullen voted to suspend rules.
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Mr. Moore seconded.
Mr. Blackwell asked if the landscape is for aesthetics only. It is a visual buffer primarily,
there is likely no hope of shielding lighting.
Ms. McMullen moved to approve 47-90ADLS.
Henrietta Lamb seconded.
Ron Houck asked about areas that will not be screened.
It was confirmed that there will be permanent bleachers in the facility.
Unanimous approval.
6i. Commission to consider 48-90 ADLS (amend),
Henke & Wheeler. Petitioner is
Lighting and Signage application for Coots,
seeking the approval to place a sign at 255 East Carmel Drive. Site is
zoned B-6.
Filed by Sheila Marshall for Coots, Henke &Wheeler.
Sheila Marshall, 255 E. Carmel Drive, said this was denied by the BZA, made the
presentation, including an artist rendering of theground is sign,file whit thech would be off
limestone (similar to the Wedgewood sign), a copy of
of Community Development.
She indicated it is compatible with other ground signs along Carmel Drive.
Landscape alterations include relocating one existing tree.
Mr. Blackwell asked about ground lights within the shrubbery to illuminate the sign.
This will proceed 1:o the Industrial and Commercial Committee.
Confirmation was given that the committee meetings on July 3 will be in the City Meeting
Hall, and that the July 17 Plan Commission meeting will be in the new City Hall.
7i. Commission to consider the following ordinance amendments to the
Carmel/Clay Zoning Ordinance Z-160 as amended to the following
proposals:
1. outside storage and display - report from Industrial and
Commercial Committee
no report
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2. satellite dish and antennas - report from Industrial and
CommitteeCommercial
being prepared for public hearing
3. Plan Commission Rules of Procedure - report from the
Committee Executive
being prepared for public hearing
4. Garage Size
being prepared for public hearing
5. Additional height for setback
being prepared for public hearing
6. Cluster
Mr. Blackwell is committee chairman. There is lots of public
interest. Caroline Bainbridge and Ila Badger are additional Plan
Commission members, there are two members of a development
company Mr. Davis has asked. Names of others are being referred
to Mr. Blackwell, and a they would like a staff person on the
committee as well. Mr. Blackwell can structure the committee.
7. Comprehensive Plan Update
There will be no further public comment at the committee level. The
rest of the meetings should go on expeditiously. There should be
one more meeting. Other public comments will be at City Council.
8. Zoning Ordinance and Subdivision Regulations recodification
In a communication from Mr. Bucher, it is indicated that the
recodification of the Zoning Ordinance being done by Steve
Granner of Bose, McKinney & Evans, to update it to current state
code is over half done, and is on hold awaiting executive committee
direction. The Executive Committee saw no reason to proceed until
the Comprehensive Plan Update Committee completed its work.
The City Attorney indicates we should be receiving sometime in
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July a copy of the recodification contracted
io t e SouthBe ezoning
d firm
(to recodify the entire city ordinance,
ordinance).
9. Plan Commission Rules of Procedure
nothing to report from the Executive Committee. •
Sharon Clark expressed her appreciation at beinga liason
their from
compcounty,
complimented staff, and reported that the county is finished
withve
plan, subdivision and zoning ordinances.
Mr. Davis entertained a motion to adjourn.
Mr. Blackwell so moved.
Mr. Klar seconded.
The meeting was adjourned at 11:55 p.m.
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