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MINUTES
June 11, 1991
COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT: Hank Blackwell, Henrietta Lamb, Caroline
Bainbridge, Tom Welch
STAFF PRESENT: Dave Cunningham
Mr. Blackwell called the subdivision committee meeting to order and introduced the
first item.
Item 1. Docket No. 23-91 PP-Waterston Primary Plat
Petitioners present: Jim Nelson, George Sweet, Richard Henderson, Dave Sexton, Tom
Ford, Ila Badger
Mr. Nelson located the proposed plat by referencing an area photograph of the plat
area and adjoining properties. Mr. Nelson then described the three sections, to be
known as Windpointe, Bayhill, Stonewick of the development and their styles and
types of housing propsed for the three sections. Mr. Nelson described the entrances
for the project: one on 116th, one on Gray Road, one on 126th and two stubs to the
east for future development. He then pointed out that a community center will be
centrally located within the project and that the petitioner will be returning for
Special Use approval from the Carmel\Clay Board of Zoning Appeals, at a later
date. Mr. Nelson described the. pedestrian access and variance that is being
requested. The petitioner will be providing sidewalks on all areas of the project
that abut the adjoining street on the perimeter of the project and will be installing
sidewalks along all interior streets, except for one area (approx. 1100') along the
western property line, where Gray Road abuts the property and an interior sidewalk
would be duplicating the exterior sidewalk at that point. There will be no lots
platted between the western side of the interior road and Gray Road. The
petitioner will be installing a pedestrian pathway within the development to allow
access for residents to the lake and other amenity areas.
Mr. Blackwell asked how these areas are to be maintain and described on the plat?
Mr. Sweet stated that they will be common areas for the entirety of the project and
will be maintained by the Homeowners Association, similar to the entrance signage
and perimeter landscaping.
Mr. Sweet further described the walking path system and the concept behind it.
Mr. Nelson described the roadway improvements that the petitioner will be doing as
a part of this development; they are as follows:
- 116th Street - dedicate 50' half ROW, and specific roadway improvements
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per plans on file with DOCD
- Gray Road - dedicate a 40' half ROW
- 126th Street - dedicate a 40' half ROW, and at the point that the
development is 50% built out will install an additional lane to the south side
of street - to allow a center turning lane be marked for left turn movements
- In addition all entrances will be dual lanes with center landscape islands -
conceptual renderings were shown.
Mr. Nelson stated that the petitioner had appeared before TAC and distributed a
letter for their engineer stating the applicable responses to each TAC listed items.
Mr. Nelson then referred to the concern brought up at the Public Hearing from Mr.
Kendall, on the possibility of the petitioner training the emergency response
departments of the City in water related incidents. He stated that Mr. Sweet had
met with Fire Chief Couts and that they would be working and assisting the Fire
Dept. with water rescue training programs.
Mrs. Bainbridge asked if the petitioner was willing to make improvements at 126th
and Gray Road.
Mr. Nelson stated that he felt a majority of the traffic problem in the area will be
corrected when the intersection of 116th and Gray Road is realigned. He further
stated when the project is 50% built out the petitioner will be installing a third lane
to 126th Street to allow the marking for a center "suicide" left turn lane. Mr. Nelson
then asked Tom Ford to address the possibility of a traffic signal at 126th and Gray
Road.
Mr. Ford stated that at this time the stop signs are all that are warranted and should
be a sufficient until the time of 50% build out of the development, the additional
lane improvement would adequately handle the increased traffic flow. He has been
in contact with the City Engineer and does know that 126th and Gray Road is one
of many intersections within the City that is being studied for signalization.
Mr. Blackwell asked who typically pays for the signalization of a intersection.
Mr. Ford stated typically if the signal is at the entrances of a development, the
developers are typically responsible for the cost of installation; however, when the
signal is at the intersection of two public roads, the governmental bodies who
control those roads are responsible.
Mr. Blackwell asked if the development will be built all at once or in phases.
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Item 2. Docket No. 24-91 PP -Primary Plat for Williamson Run-Section 6
Petitioners present: Mark Boyce, Richard Henderson, Dave Sexton
Mr. Boyce presented and located the plat for Williamson Run, Section Six to the
committee and stated that all the TAC concerns had been addressed and
distributed a letter responding to those concerns. Mr. Boyce indicated that this
section would follow the same guidelines and covenants of the previously approved
Williamson Run sections.
Mr. Boyce further explained the future development of the project to the south
once the creek is bridged.
Mr. Blackwell asked if there were any other questions from the committee, if not he
would entertain a motion to approve.
Motion: To approve Docket No. 24-91 PP, Primary Plat application for Williamson
Run, Section 6 as submitted. Henrietta Lamb
Second: Caroline Bainbridge
Action: Approved, 4-0
Item 3. Docket No. 25-91 SP, Secondary Plat for Ashbrooke.Section 1
Petitioners present: George Sweet, Richard Henderson, Dave Sexton
Mr. Sweet presented the final design and secondary plat for Ashbrooke, section 1 to
the committee. Mr. Sweet indicated that his plat was previously named Carwinion.
Mr. Sweet stated that this is the final design and construction drawing submittal.
They have appeared before TAc and have been and will continue to work with the
ii County and staff during the development of this project.
Mr. Sweet presented signage and landscaping plans for the development and was
not sure if the committee could approve these tonight or if he had to return at a
later date.
Staff indicated that at the time of the primary plat similar conceptual drawings were
presented and that these were simply refinements of those, therefore the petitioner
could receive final approval from the committee on landscaping and signage
tonight.
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Mr. Sweet stated that all three entrances will be developed at the same time and
each of the three individual areas will be phased, due to the fact each area will be
for different segments of the market.
Mrs. Lamb asked the approx. depth of the ponds.
Mr. Sweet stated that the ponds will range between 8' and 15' deep.
Mr. Nelson explained to the committee the change in the commitment from the
rezone approval, and the reasoning behind the change.
Mr. Tom Kendall then asked to be recognized and asked that the project be
delayed until the entrance intersections and their alignments were further studied
for exact design and engineering.
The petitioner indicated that the intersection center lines will be aligned, as stated
at the public hearing they have agreed to study the geometric of the entrance
intersections prior to secondary platting stage and construction drawing
development. Mr. Sweet further stated that the primary plat stage by State statute
is a conceptual filing of plans to indicate the general concepts of the proposed
development and that the project as submitted does meet those criteria and the
Carmel\Clay Subdivision Regulations for a primary plat filing. In addition the
statute states that at the time of the secondary platting all roads, lots and
engineering will need to be done and construction drawings developed. Once those
plans are developed they will be submitted and reviewed by the Technical bodies of
the Plan Commission, the staff and ultimately this committee of the Plan
Commission, who by procedure has right of final approval of those plans. Mr.
Sweet did say that they are aware of the problem and would be investigating
possible solutions to this as indicated at the public hearing.
Mr. Blackwell asked if there were any other questions from the committee; if not he
would entertain a motion to approve.
Motion: To approve Docket No. 23-91 PP, Primary Plat application for Waterstone
as submitted, with the variance for the elimination of sidewalk in the area
previously described and with the change in commitments. Caroline
Bainbridge
Second: Henrietta Lamb
Action: Approved, 4-0
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Motion: To approve a Docket No. 25-91 SP for Ashbrooke, section 1 as submitted.
Caroline Bainbridge
Second: Henrietta Lamb
Action: Approved, 4-0
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FOR: SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE
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BY: STAFF
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SPECIAL COMMENTS
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