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City of Carmel Technical Advisory Committee September 20, 2017
CARMEL TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MEETING MINUTES
Date: Wednesday, September 20, 2017
Place: Dept. of Community Services Conference Room, 3rd Floor, Carmel City Hall.
Time: 9:00 a.m. (Approximate start times for each item are listed below)
9:00 a.m. (UV,V) 9975 N. College Ave. Office.
The applicant seeks use variance and development standards variance approvals for a financial
services office on 0.60 acres:
Docket No. 17080005 UV ZO Ch. 7.01.01 – Permitted uses, Office use requested.
Docket No. 17080006 V ZO Ch. 27.03.02 – Parking lot curbing required, No curbing
requested.
Docket No. 17080007 V ZO Ch. 33.05.A – Reduced perimeter bufferyards requested.
Docket No. 17080008 V ZO Ch. 2.09 – Compliance with Transportation Plan required, 3-ft
Reduction in 101st St. half right of way requested.
The site is located at 9975 N. College Ave. in the College Hills Subdivision and is zoned R-
1/Residence. Filed by Steven Hardin of Faegre Baker Daniels LLP, on behalf of Financial Plans &
Strategies, Inc.
India Olson with Faegre Baker Daniels presented the project. Ms. Olson said this project will be
converting a home into an office building, which will include installing a door and making the
property handicap accessible with a ramp. The garage doors will also be removed.
Greg Hoyes – Hamilton County Surveyor’s Office
- Mr. Hoyes said since the parking lot is fairly small he will not need any additional storm water
controls.
Joanie Clark – Vectren Energy
- Ms. Clark said since there is already gas service to the building, the owner will only need to call
Vectren to have it changed into their own name.
David Lucas – Hamilton County Highway Department
- Mr. Lucas asked if anyone from the City of Carmel knows the right-of-way width that the City
has on record. Ms. Conn said the full width is 56 feet but it is platted at 50 feet. Mr. Lucas said
101st Street is a local road so by the County standards the full width would be 70 feet. Mr. Lucas
said the County does have a slight concern with the proximity to College Avenue. He also added
that if the variance is granted and there is an office building allowed, the County will require a
commercial drive permit.
Ryan Hartman – Clay Township Regional Waste District
- Mr. Hartman said he sent an email on August 11. He added that the only concern is there may be
additional fees due to the change of use and additional usage. Ms. Olson said there will be four to
six employees, so it will not be a very large office.
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Daren Mindham – City of Carmel Urban Forestry
- Mr. Mindham said he sent review comments asking for buffers on the ends of the property.
Chris Ellison – City of Carmel Fire Department
- Mr. Ellison said since the structure would be changing from residential to commercial use, the
project would need to comply with the current commercial building codes.
David Littlejohn – City of Carmel Alternative Transportation
- Mr. Littlejohn said there are two comments. First, he asked for a sidewalk connection to the
front of the building from either the sidewalk along 101st Street or the path along College Avenue.
Also he said there is a requirement for bicycle parking for office use.
Nick Mishler – City of Carmel Building & Code Services
- Mr. Mishler said the project will need to go to the State of Indiana and be approved prior to
applying for permits.
Rachel Keesling – City of Carmel Planning & Zoning
- No comments.
Alexia Lopez – City of Carmel Planning & Zoning
- No comments.
Angie Conn – City of Carmel Planning & Zoning
- Review comments sent. Ms. Conn said there are a handful of review comments left.
9:10 a.m. Docket No. 17080014 Z: Gramercy West PUD Rezone (with Primary Plat)
The applicant seeks approval to rezone 27.76 acres to PUD/Planned Unit Development in order to
develop approximately 270 dwellings. The site is located south of 126th Street just east of Auman
Drive E. It is zoned Gramercy PUD, Z-493-06. Filed by Jim Shinaver and Jon Dobosiewicz of
Nelson & Frankenberger, on behalf of Mohawk WB, LLC and Paul Rioux with Platinum Properties.
Jim Shinaver with Nelson & Frankenberger, Tim Walter with Platinum Properties, Corey Williams
with Buckingham, and Gordon Kritz with Stoeppelwerth Engineering presented the project.
Greg Hoyes – Hamilton County Surveyor’s Office
- Mr. Hoyes said none of this section would fall within a regulated drain water shed.
Joanie Clark – Vectren Energy
- Ms. Clark said she emailed Gordon Kritz on September 7th. Ms. Clark said there are no
objections to the plat. She added that Vectren would typically prefer easements to be 10 to 15 feet,
but some of the easements on this plan are only five feet.
David Lucas – Hamilton County Highway Department
- No comments.
Ryan Hartman – Clay Township Regional Waste District
- This project is outside CTRWD service territory.
Daren Mindham – City of Carmel Urban Forestry
- Comments sent addressing the PUD as well as some of the common area plan sheets.
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Chris Ellison – City of Carmel Fire Department
- Mr. Ellison asked how the structures will be configured. Mr. Shinaver said a significant portion
of the units will have a front door facing the street, and a garage facing an alley running behind the
house. Mr. Ellison said the Department will need to look at the fire hydrant locations very
carefully to make sure the layout will work. Mr. Ellison also asked for an emergency vehicle
circulation plan to be provided.
Dave McCoy – City of Carmel Addressing Coordinator
- No comments.
David Littlejohn – City of Carmel Alternative Transportation
- Mr. Littlejohn said he has questions about the bike lane shown along the main street. He said if
these have not been determined, he would be happy to work with the developers to provide input.
Also, Mr. Littlejohn said there were at least one or two sidewalks that were indicated as 4.5% but
PUD shows that the minimum for a sidewalk is 5 feet which matches the City standards. Also,
Mr. Littlejohn said there are a few ADA crosswalks that are noted. He added that there are alleys
which are labeled as streets, and even if the streets are private, they would require a sidewalk on
both sides, as well as pathways to the front of the buildings. Finally, Mr. Littlejohn said that the
developers will probably want to place these in pedestrian easements so people can walk on them
without restrictions.
Nick Mishler – City of Carmel Building & Code Services
- No comments.
Rachel Keesling – City of Carmel Planning & Zoning
- No comments.
Alexia Lopez – City of Carmel Planning & Zoning
- Ms. Lopez asked for a plot plan to be provided for each lot type. Ms. Lopez said since this
property was already somewhat redeveloped, the Department will require the road to be extended
south to connect with the south end of the property.
9:20 a.m. Docket No. 17090001 DP/ADLS: Carmel Office Building.
Docket No. 17090002 ZW: Ch. 23B.09.B Architectural Design Requirements: Materials – More
than 70% glass proposed
Docket No. 17090003 ZW: Ch. 27.03.02 Additional Parking & Loading Requirements – Flush
Curbs proposed for drainage purposes
The applicant seeks site plan & design approval for one new five story (81’ tall) office building
totaling 250,000 sq. ft. and one new parking garage structure (3 stories, 1,093-1,199 spaces
TBD). The site is located at approximately 11299 Illinois Street, at the northeast corner of 111th Street
and Illinois Street. It is zoned B-6/Business and is located within the US 31 Overlay Zone. Filed by
Brian J. Tuohy, Attorney, of Doninger Tuohy & Bailey LLP, on behalf of the owner, Karmel
Property LLC.
Greg Snelling with Snelling Engineering, Drew Sanders with Pure Development, Chris Boardman
with Ratio Design, and Frank Duck with Shiel Sexton presented the project.
Greg Hoyes – Hamilton County Surveyor’s Office
- Letter sent. Mr. Hoyes said there are some areas included in the plan which are already detained,
and added that these areas should not be included in the drainage plan.
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Joanie Clark – Vectren Energy
- Ms. Clark asked what the timeframe will be for construction. Mr. Duck said the project would be
looking for gas service in about a year, or the third quarter of 2018. Mr. Snelling said there is a
little bit of site work as it relates to Vectren such as grading and drainage.
David Lucas – Hamilton County Highway Department
- No comments.
Ryan Hartman – Clay Township Regional Waste District
- Comments sent. Mr. Hartman said he will need mechanical, electrical and plumbing plans and
will also need to know exactly what will be going through the grease interceptor. Mr. Duck said
there will be a kitchen but he is not sure what the scope of the kitchen will be and the type and
amount of food it will be producing.
Daren Mindham – City of Carmel Urban Forestry
- Mr. Mindham said he has marked the landscape plans in Project Dox, and he will also be sending
an email. Mr. Mindham said the number one comment was how to preserve the trees on the
perimeter in relation to the grading, retaining walls and drainage which will be added in these
areas. Mr. Duck said there are many dead trees but he said he believes they are exceeding the 50%
rate for preservation for the buffer yards.
Chris Ellison – City of Carmel Fire Department
- Mr. Ellison said he met with Greg Snelling several months ago to address fire code items, which
have all been addressed. Mr. Ellison reminded the petitioner to submit detailed drawings which
will make the review move much faster.
Dave McCoy – City of Carmel Addressing Coordinator
- Mr. McCoy said he had already assigned an address on Illinois Street and wanted to verify with
Mr. Duck that this was acceptable. Mr. Duck said the address he has in his records is 11299
Illinois Street.
David Littlejohn – City of Carmel Alternative Transportation
- Mr. Littlejohn said he submitted comments on Project Dox and has no further comments at this
time. Mr. Littlejohn said the frontage on Illinois Street plans appeared to stop short, and the path
was also shown as 8-foot, but the minimum requirement is 10-foot. Mr. Littlejohn said he would
like to see details on the garage bike parking, as well as signage directing people to the bike
parking area. Mr. Littlejohn said there is short term bike parking at one entrance, but another door
is shown as the main entrance. Since the ordinance requires bike parking within 50 feet of the
main entrance, this will need to be updated or the parking would need to be disbursed closer to the
entrance. Mr. Littlejohn said there is bike sharing station listed on the plans, and he said he would
be happy to put the developers in contact with Zagster, who the City works with for bike sharing.
Finally, Mr. Littlejohn asked if there are shower and locker room facilities for commuters. Mr.
Duck said this would be part of the interior details package that will come out at a later time.
Nick Mishler – City of Carmel Building & Code Services
- Mr. Mishler said once the interior layout is finalized, he would like to sit down with the
developers, as well as Fire Marshal Bruce Knott to discuss suite numbering. The City typically
would like input into these numbers to make the site easier to navigate if there is ever an
emergency call.
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Rachel Keesling – City of Carmel Planning & Zoning
- Ms. Keesling said she is still finalizing the review in Project Dox, and said the Fire Department
and I.S. Departments will also need access to this. Ms. Keesling also said she will need drawings
of the building elevations for all four sides, and added that the more detailed the drawings, the
better.
Alexia Lopez – City of Carmel Planning & Zoning
- Ms. Lopez said one of the benefits of the new software is it allows you to see the changes that
were made between the original and revised plans.
9:35 a.m. Docket No. 17090004 DP/ADLS: Meijer Outlot C.
The applicant seeks site plan & design approval for a new one story (25’ tall) multi-tenant building
totaling 11,760 sq. ft. The site is located at approximately 1424 W. Carmel Drive, along the west side
of the Meijer property. It is zoned OM-M/Old Meridian Meijer and is located within the Old
Meridian District. Filed by Gabe Schuchman of Alrig USA.
Jon Sheidler with Woolpert presented the project. Mr. Sheidler said this project will be a multi-tenant
retail building next to the Meijer garden center, along Pennsylvania Street. He added that the largest
tenant on the south end of the project would likely be a restaurant, with a fairly large outdoor patio
addition. Mr. Sheidler said there is currently a 4 to 5-foot tall berm with evergreen trees along
Pennsylvania and he is currently working with the Planning Department to find ways to make this
building more visible. The ideas which were originally considered included moving some of the trees
and lowering the berm in certain areas. However, after discussion, the Department suggested moving
the building closer to the Pennsylvania Street right-of-way. Because of this, the site plan will
eventually be changing.
Greg Hoyes – Hamilton County Surveyor’s Office
- Letter sent. Mr. Hoyes said an outlet permit will be required.
Joanie Clark – Vectren Energy
- Comment letter sent.
David Lucas – Hamilton County Highway Department
- No comments.
Ryan Hartman – Clay Township Regional Waste District
- This project is outside CTRWD service territory.
Daren Mindham – City of Carmel Urban Forestry
- Mr. Mindham asked to be kept updated when the plans are revised.
Chris Ellison – City of Carmel Fire Department
- Mr. Ellison asked for details regarding utilities and sprinklers. Mr. Sheidler said the building
will be sprinkled, so he will be revising the plumbing plans to reflect this. Mr. Ellison said he will
need details on the locations of the Post Indicator Valve, Fire Department Connection, and fire
hydrants.
Dave McCoy – City of Carmel Addressing Coordinator
- Mr. McCoy said this project will need an address at some point, and added that he will propose
an address off Pennsylvania Street.
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David Littlejohn – City of Carmel Alternative Transportation
- Mr. Littlejohn said the Bike & Pedestrian plan shows a 10-foot path along Pennsylvania Street.
Also, Mr. Littlejohn said on buildings such as this, the Department would like to see dispersion of
bike parking, which would entail racks on both the north and south sides.
Nick Mishler – City of Carmel Building & Code Services
- No comments.
Rachel Keesling – City of Carmel Planning & Zoning
- Ms. Keesling said as previously discussed, this site will require four variances, mostly having to
do with parking. Ms. Keesling said the Old Meridian zone requires buildings to be brought to the
street, and direct access to the tenant spaces. For this reason, the Department is discussing moving
the location of the building or adjusting the configuration.
Alexia Lopez – City of Carmel Planning & Zoning
- No comments.
Angie Conn – City of Carmel Planning & Zoning
- Ms. Conn said the next filing deadline is October 13.