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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes RES 10-02-18 photos,I can go either way. Paul Rio: How do you all feel about it? Josh Kirsh: I don't feel strong about it as the Department does. Refers to the photo example, I don't want to see a bunch of concrete in the front yard. Paul: My reason I don't like it is because of the look and aesthetics. Alexia Lopez: Aesthetically,I don't see it as a negative. If people park in the street,then they aren't forced to go to the driveway. They can use the sidewalk to the front porch. It creates a more traditional neighborhood design. Paul Rio: If Staff wants it,we will include it. Alexia: We could eliminate the sidewalk along the home if we include the porch to curb sidewalk. Josh: This would encourage people to park in the street and use the sidewalk connection to the front porch. Let's move forward for curb to porch sidewalks. Paul: Ok. Josh: We don't have a requirement for driveway to porch sidewalks? Paul: No. Someone might opt to put one in than the other,depending on the architecture of the house. Josh: They can decide to put in both if they want but I do not want to make a requirement of both. Susan Westermeier: What about the lighting plan and location? Alexia Lopez: We want to see the location of the light at the intersection at Towne Road in the plans. Jon Dobosiewicz: It will be part of the secondary plat. Jim Rinehart: There will be a light on the entrance sign. Josh Kirsh: The future barricade between Kingsmill and this development can be removed by the City Engineer, Board of Public Works, DOCS,or Kingsmill HOA. A motion made by Susan Westermeier and seconded by Josh Kirsh to move to Full Plan Commission with favorable recommendation. Approved 3-0, 1 Absent-Kestner 9. Docket No. 18070015 Z: 2724 E 136th St.PUD Rezone The applicant seeks approval to rezone 59 acres to PUD/Planned Unit Development in order to develop approximately 100 single-family dwellings and 100 condominiums/townhomes. The site is located at the NE corner of Keystone Parkway and 136th Street. It is zoned R-1/Residential within the Keystone Parkway Overlay Zone. Filed by Justin Moffett of Old Town Design Companies LLC. Petitioner: Justin Moffett • Steve Fehribach with A&F Engineering is here to discuss the traffic report • Passed out exhibits of the site plans • An easel map exhibit was presented to show the current site plan • One of the main concerns from the adjacent neighbors is the buffering between us and them • We were asked to eliminate the unit that is east of the creek(referring to the map) • We were asked to make a commitment to not have any building construction within 100' of the historic home • We were asked to make a road connection to Mill Gate Dr. • The 20' property line buffer has been changed to a 40' buffer,which will be a tree preservation area • Density was decreased to 100 units of single family and 100 units for multi-family. Our initial request was a total of 238 units. • We were asked to not have any 3 story multi-family structures • Most of the negative comments were about density and traffic and not about the architecture • Passed out the traffic report summary • We committed to include a 2 story max height, and no condo buildings east of the Main Blvd Steve Fehribach,A&F Engineering • The traffic report showed the amount of trips that will be made entering and exiting the site(Did he mention if this project would have a significant negative effect on 136t St?) • The numbers we factored in are for 103 single family residence units and 134 townhomes,which is larger than the new commitment of 100 units of single family and 100 units of townhomes. • The volume of traffic that would be generated would be small enough where it would not affect the through traffic on 136t Street • If we can elongate the roundabout at 136`h and Keystone, it will help move traffic through 136`h Street 3 Residential Committee Minutes 10-2-18 • This new roundabout design creates a driveway that has a right in and right out. There would not be a left turn in • We had conversations with Jeremy Kashman about the meter light signals coming on and off at this roundabout • Passed out exhibits on the new roundabout design proposal • The development will have three connections,from the east,north,and west. The connections do not go directly to 146t Street or Carey Road. • Carey Road will probably see a decrease of traffic because the County is building a ramp connection from Lowes Way to Keystone,and will tie into south bound Rangeline • With all the road additions and changes,the intersection at 136th and Keystone will get better • Our goal would be to lose the traffic light signals at the roundabout Department Report: Alexia Lopez: • There have been changes from the original submittal and we reviewed them as positive • They show a stub-street connection to Yorktown Woods • They show the multi-use path along Keystone that is required but they need to connect this path to the Hagan Burke Trail. • There's a natural buffer of the pond along Keystone • The elongated roundabout will be a key aspect of this development. Jeremy Kashman will have the final review. • They need to show more architecture design details in the PUD wording and present those to us • They need to show more detail on the internal signage. Show us how the signs will look like in the neighborhood and where the signs will be located at. • We are still working through our original comments in the PUD • We recommend this to go forward to the next(Nov. 8)Residential Committee meeting Committee Comments: Josh Kirsh: Would the proposed second connection to the east impact your traffic study? The Plan Commission could ask the petitioner to build it. Steve Fehribach: I haven't run the exact travel times. People will make this neighborhood more of the cut through,than cut through the existing neighborhoods. N j Josh Kirsh: We can reduce the traffic at 136th and Keystone if we can we make this a 55 years and older community? Steve Fehribach: This would reduce the amount of vehicle trips. Josh: I believe this is one of the busiest intersections in the morning hours. Steve: With this being close to the high school,I could see that. Josh Kirsh: Add more architecture standards to the language of the PUD. Add the details. Increase architecture on street facing facades. Josh Kirsh: Why are we not making a connection to Smokey Ridge Trail(to Smokey Ridge Subdivision)? Justin Moffett: The plans have changed and that area is dedicated as park space. There's a commitment that we have no less than a 3 acre park. We envision this as a park,and the adjacent neighbors did not want a connection. Josh Kirsh: Why are some of the trees outlined (in the site plan)? Justin Moffett: These are the trees that are worthy saving for preservation. Michael Casati: Did we ever have a plan to work out a connection with the path(with the previous project?)? Susan Westermeier: There was a lot of discussion,but nothing was resolved. Justin Moffett: We support to provide the space and cost as long as the path connects to somewhere. We want to make sure there's the ability by the neighboring HOA to allow a path through their property and it doesn't stop at the property line. Josh Kirsh: Referring to map. We can propose to build your part of the path and connect it to here. Alexia Lopez: Referring to map. We walked this route.The grades start to change and it drops,but there does seem to be a feasible route.Josh: We can explore our options with the Parks Department and Hamilton County. Justin: I want to make sure a path is possible. In a past experience,we agreed to a path,but then it was physically impossible to do a path. Alexia: What kind of study would it take to see if it's physically possible to construct a path? Justin: We can ask HWC Engineering to do topography of the area and research what groups we need to go through. 4 Residential Committee Minutes 10-2-18 Susan Westermeier: Did you ever think of having this as a 55 and older development? Justin Moffett: People don't want to be stereotyped into their housing type. They like the ability for inter-generational living. Based on our floor plans,the majority appeals to the 55 and older group but some younger families may move in this development. Alexia Lopez: Can you describe the floor plans,and why you see more of the buyers at 55 years and older? Justin Moffett: All main levels have master floor plans. We offer smaller lots. We also limit outdoor play equipment. Susan Westermeier: Can you explain what you meant by not doing anything near the historic home area? Justin Moffett: We are not proposing any homes or structures east of the creek. We will draw a 100' line off the historic home and not build within that. This was mainly driven by the Indiana Landmark Foundation. We will not add additional structures to the historic home. We can add parking and improvements to the historic home. Susan: You will need to add commitments what can and can't be allowed around the historic home. Justin: Correct. Alexia Lopez: The uses will need to be added to the PUD. Some uses will be excluded. Justin: We would be required to go through the Historic Preservation Commission to do anything. They have their own ADLS. They would be very restricted. Susan Westermeier: Can we add commitments about construction traffic? Alexia Lopez: We can add it to the PUD. Josh Kirsh: I want to limit the amount of construction traffic entering. Justin Moffett: There's an existing gravel path accessible on Keystone that was used for farm equipment. We would want to keep this open for construction traffic if allowed by City Engineering. Michael Casati: Would you build all the roads at once? Justin: We would likely phase it out. First,we would have to build the main Blvd. The goal is to limit the construction on traffic on Matt Street till the very end. Susan Westermeier: What's the time frame you have on the extended roundabout being developed? Josh Kirsh: Jeremy Kashman would have final say. Justin Moffett: The roundabout buildout would be a package deal with this development. Josh: We could have Justin ask Jeremy Kashman for a letter to explain when the roundabout would need to be constructed. Justin: We would want the new roundabout constructed before the first model home is built. Susan Westermeier: Is there anything in the commitments addressing rentals? Justin Moffett: We are comfortable to committing to a max percentage of rentals. These units are really hard to rent. There's usually a limited amount that are rentals. This item will be continued to the next Residential Committee on Thursday,November 8,2018. The meeting adjourned at 8:05 p.m. t-7^1*-- (Shestak—Secretary Michael Casati—Chairman 5 Residential Committee Minutes 10-2-18