HomeMy WebLinkAboutCorrespondence Conn, Angelina V
From: Erik Dirks <erik@oldtowndesigngroup.com>
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2019 10:20 AM
To: Conn,Angelina V
Cc: Casey Shinaver(casey@oldtowndesigngroup.com)
Subject: Re: Docket No.Assignment: Miller Auto Care, 969 N. Rangeline Rd. (18110007 UV,
18120019 V)
Attachments: resto mod signage.pdf
Hi Angie,
Sony for the delay, I'm just back in from holiday vacation. I just left you a VM, but wanted to follow up. We
will not be seeking at sign variance at this time. The signage shown in the concept drawings are
placeholders. The signage will probably be one of the last things we finalize during the design process. We
anticipate complying with the sign ordinance and filing an ADLS amend for the sign permit. Please confirm
that is the correct process.
In a somewhat related issue, the Stockbergers (owners of Miller Auto Care) have asked if they can add some
lettering to their existing facility signage(see attached proposed clouded in blue) to help advertise their
relocation. They are launching a new restoration/modification business that will be operating out of the existing
building at 969 N. Rangeline Rd., which will happen prior to the new adjacent Miller Auto Care facility being
completed/relocated. Do they need to go through a formal permit/variance process for this or is there something
I can do to help them expedite as it's "temporary" in nature?
Thanks,
Erik
Erik Dirks
Old Town Companies
317-447-0119
erik@oldtowndesigngroup.com
On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 9:10 AM Conn, Angelina V <Aconn@carmel.in.gov>wrote:
H, Erik—
I see that were you able to get the legal ad run in The Current for Docket no. 18110007 UV, but Docket No.
18120019 V was not included. Are you going to have another ad run by next Tuesday, and then seek a
suspension of the rules or procedure from the BZA in order for public notice for that one item to be published
late?
(This would also go for the mailings to the neighbors; it needs to include both docket nos.)
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Conn, Angelina V
From: Keesling, Rachel M
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 12:56 PM
To: Conn, Angelina V
Cc: Chavez, Nathan
Subject: Miller Auto
Angie,
It looks like Miller has addressed site plan concerns. But sign size is still an issue.The west facing sign now has red swirls
that extend beyond the spandrel panel. I'm hoping they can remove these, but I don't know their take on it. The Miller
Auto Care sign in the back also needs a variance for height, because it exceeds the spandrel panel height. So one
additional variance for sign size could cover both of these signs. Let me know if you need anything else.
Thanks,
Rachel
Rachel Keeslin8
Planning Administrator
City of Carmel, Indiana
1 Civic Square
3rd Floor—DOCS
Carmel, IN 46032
317-571-2417
rkeesling@carmel.in.gov
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Conn, Angelina V
From: Erik Dirks <erik@oldtowndesigngroup.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2018 8:52 AM
To: Conn, Angelina V; Casey Shinaver
Subject: Fwd: FW: Miller Auto
Angie, See responses to Rachel's comments in the traffic below(yellow). Thanks,
Erik Dirks
Old Town Companies
317-447-0119
erik@oldtowndesigngroup.com
Forwarded message
From: Erik Dirks <erik@oldtowndesigngroup.com>
Date: Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 12:17 PM
Subject: Fwd: FW: Miller Auto
To: Rachel Keesling<rkeesling(c�carmel.in.gov>
Rachel,
I've got some revised site and architectural drawings to address some comments below. I also have revised
applications with correct owner information and signatures on them. I went to ProjectDox and it doesn't appear
that document upload is an available task for me at the moment. Am I doing something wrong, or do you need
to enable that for me?
See responses below in your original traffic(yellow).
FYI, I've received a comment from Carmel Water about meter sizing, materials,backlow, etc. That information
won't be available until later in the design process. Do I need to respond to that comment in ProjectDox
somehow, directly to Carmel Utilities via email or to you through email?
Thanks,
Erik Dirks
Old Town Companies
317-447-0119
erik@,oldtowndesigngroup.com
Forwarded message
From: Lee, Mike E <mlee@carmel.in.gov>
Date: Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 4:50 PM
Subject: FW: Miller Auto
To: Justin Moffett<justin@,oldtowndesigngroup.com>, Kris Farrar<kris@oldtowncompanies.com>, Erik Dirks
<erik@oldtowndesigngroup.com>
Cc: Mestetsky, Henry<hmestetsky@carmel.in.gov>, Fairman, Jenell <ifairman@carmel.in.gov>
Old Town Team, Please see below the initial comments from DOCS regarding the Miller design.
Thanks,
Mike
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From: Keesling, Rachel M
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2018 9:24 AM
To: Lee, Mike E
Subject: RE: Miller Auto
Hi Mike, Here are our review comments for the Miller Auto building thus far. Please let me know if you have
any questions.
Thanks,
Rachel
Land Use:
• The C2 District does not include Automobile Repair as a permitted use, thus, a Use Variance will be
required, petition to be heard by the Board of Zoning Appeals. The Board does not meet in December, so it is
most likely that petition public hearing will occur in January.
For CRC projects, it is normal practice that DOCS waive the acreage fee that accompanies the normal
Filing/Review fee for such.
Process:
• The C2 District requires a Plan Commission public hearing for Development Plan/ADLS petitions. This
hearing would be via Hearing Officer similar to the recent Kent Building hearing in the DOCS conference
room.
Architectural:
• Red color metal panel cladding—We like this color as an accent, but in the northeast corner of the building
where it is carried all the way to the ground, it seems a bit out of place. Did you explore carrying the white color
through in this area? This has been revised to include more white color facade and kept red as an accent
color. See revised drawing A8.
• Column details—vertical material changes can be challenging to execute, and the mid-column material
change, from brick to siding, is not an acceptable material transition as proposed. Our recommendation is to
complete the column(s) in brick, by carrying the brick to the edge of the garage door. This detail is proposed on
both the north and south façade near Range Line, as well as the south façade near the office area. This has
been revised per comment, see revised A7
Site:
• Parking lot drive aisle widths—24' and one 23.9' is proposed, 25' is required These have been revised per
comment, see revised C1.1. We will not seek a variance.
o others are 36.6' on the south side of the building, 28' on the north side of the building
o Variance will be required for drive aisle width unless they can be adjusted to meet the
ordinance
• Parking space size—9' x 20' —could go down to 9' x 18' to get more room for the drive aisles These have
been revised per comment, see revised C1.1
Signage: We started to make some modifications in revised A6 per the comments below, but the final
proposed signage won't be done until later in the design process. We will comply with the signage
ordinance and file an ADLS amend for the sign permit if required.
• Is there going to be more than one tenant? The way the signage is situated facing Range Line it looks like a
second tenant would get a sign on the other side of the Miller name.
• We would propose to change the design so that the Miller name is in the middle with two smaller
rectangles/medallions on each side. Then the Miller name would have more prominence and it would not look
like a second tenant sign will go in that other space.
• CRC standards allow sign placement and number—so the signs in the back are ok and will not need a
variance for total number of signs or signs not facing a right-of-way
• However, City standards do apply to size and design. So these two signs—Miller Auto Care and Entrance
will need a variance for height,because of exceeding the spandrel panel height.
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• The Wrench logo on the Range Line façade is also too tall for the spandrel panel size, and will need a
variance as currently proposed
o It extends above the brick architectural detail which governs the size it can be
o 70%of the height and 85% of the width inside the brick detail area is allowed for size of the
sign
Rachel Keesling
Planning Administrator
317-571-2417
rkeesling@carmel.in.gov
From: Lee, Mike E
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 2:20 PM
To: Keesling, Rachel M
Subject: Miller Auto
Hi Rachel,
Do you have the rest of your questions and comments related to Miller's new building that you can send me?
Thanks!
Mike
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