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Carmel Plan Commission
COMMERCIAL COMMITTEE
Tuesday, February 5, 2019 Meeting
Location: Carmel City Hall Caucus Rooms,2nd Floor, 1 Civic Square,Carmel,IN 46032
Members Present: Tom Kegley,Alan Potasnik(Committee Chairman),John Adams, Laura Campbell
Staff Present: Rachel Keesling(Planning Administrator),Nathan Chavez(Recording Secretary)
Legal Counsel:John Molitor
Time of Meeting: 6:00 PM
The Commercial Committee met to consider the following items:
1. Docket No. 18100014 DP/ADLS: Bank of America
The applicant seeks site plan and design approval for a new bank on 7.54 acres. The site is located at about 10850
N. Michigan Rd. The site is zoned B3/Business and is within the US 421 Overlay. Filed by Zak Klobucar of
Gensler on behalf of Bank of America.
Petitioners: Bert Boldizsar(Gensler),John Pearson(Pearson Nottingham,LLC),&Russ Webster(Weihe
Engineers)
Bert Boldizsar:
• This petition was last seen at Plan Commission(Commission)on December 18,2018.
• Most of the comments received at Commission were addressed. Other comments were subjective and
pertained to the building appearance.Our understanding is that the architecture does not meet the intent of
the Unified Development Ordinance(UDO). Some of the elements were a little too modern. Direct
federal detail was added to the building.
• Beginning on page 6 of the submitted Packet you can find street views of the building.Most of the glass
1st story was replaced with brick in a traditional sense.A gable front was included,with a palladium style
window. Quite a bit of detail was added to the copping and cornice of the building.The massing is similar
and emphasizes the center of the building.
• Others comments regarding the rear of the building were made.A joke was made that it looked prison-
like. Because of the layout of the interior more glass was unable to be included.Quite a bit of detailed
brick work is present.
• One of the Commission member's primary concerns was the flatness of the rear façade.This has been
improved.
• Signage remains the same.It is modest and low key. The Bank of America sign may be illuminated in the
evening with the Bank of America colors,red and blue,on the logo.
• The rest of the design stayed essentially the same. Our clients are happy with the design.
Department Report: Rachel Keesling
• Rachel passed around the previous version of the bank located in the Packet for PC 12-18-18.
• The revised design is in line with a strict federal style building with the extra detailing and ornamentation.
The building is warmer,as far as more approachable.There is more details and depth to the window
areas.The architectural design of the roof above the front entrance speaks to the federal style,as well as,
the molding and windows.The architecture is true to the UDO requirements.The petitioners have gone
above and beyond.
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• I was unsure how the Commercial Committee(Committee)would feel about the backside of the building
with the window detailing. Staff is comfortable with the detailing.
• Tom Kegley-Is that the old or the new rendering?
• It is the new elevation. I will show you the old elevations.
• Bert Boldizsar-There is an option to add a window and essentially build a wall behind the window. There
are issues with security and condensation then.
• Rachel showed the old elevations.
• There is a lot more depth and a rhythm to the west façade even though there are not windows.The
original façade looked flat and plain.
• The petitioner worked hard to address Staff's concerns. Does the façade look less jail-like?I hope so.It is
prettier to say the least.
• Overall,the site layout was always acceptable with Staff,with parking in front.The site meets all
applicable requirements.
• There are outstanding comments:
o Staff still needs the trash enclosure design.
o Bicycle parking is actually shown on the site plan. Staff initially missed this on the plans.
o The lighting plan needs adjustments in order to comply.
o The landscape plan has been approved.
o The petitioner needs to work with Staff and the property owner to the north to add a connection
point to Redd Road,two properties north of the subject site. To the north is the old Walmart site.
There should be a road that comes down through that site and connects to this site.Apartments
are now planned in Zionsville on their portion of that site. We are working with both landowners
to connect the roads.
• In the Department Report Staff recommends this petition is continued to the March 5th Committee
meeting. However, if the Committee is agreeable to the rear façade changes, Staff can secure the design
of the trash enclosure and lighting plan compliance before the next meeting.
• Staff is supportive of the petition and the work that has been done.The windows were not added to the
rear of the building as requested.
Committee Comments:
Alan Potasnik:
• At the December 18th Commission meeting a few comments were made.Nick Kestner wanted a path
from the building entrance to Michigan Rd.This should be marked.Josh Kirsh noted that the back of the
building looked like a prison and the landscaping needs upgraded.Another Commission member stated
there is no light at Nottingham Way and Michigan Rd.
• Rachel Keesling-A light at Nottingham Way and Michigan Rd. is not planned. Striping will need to be
updated to more clearly show the path,but it does exist.
John Adams:
• Was landscaping and lighting included in the original packet?The packet for this meeting just shows
changes?
• Rachel Keesling-Yes. This submission includes mostly the architecture.
• Were there significant changes for the landscaping or other sections of this petition?
• Rachel Keesling-The landscaping has been approved and there were no significant changes.The lighting
plan does not meet the 0.3 foot-candles at the property lines.Adjustments need to be made.
• Bert Boldizsar-We can meet the lighting requirement.
• I believe Committee is ready to move this forward. I trust Staff with figuring out what type of trash
enclosure design is best, as well as,any other minor detail.
Laura Campbell:
• Are there any glass windows on the drive-thru?
• Bert Boldizsar-There are none.
• Are there any tellers?
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• Bert Boldizsar-There are not. I believe it is all automated.
• Alan Potasnik-At the Keystone at the Crossing branch it looks like there is a kiosk. Wil this location be
similar?Have you built similar sites in Hamilton County?
• Bert Boldizsar-I am not familiar with that location. We have not.This program is relatively new and
typically begins with smaller locations.
Tom Kegley:
• I have nothing to add. The overall improvements are quite good and the outstanding issues,that still exist,
are approachable in the time frame.
Tom motions to forward Docket No.18100014 DP/ADLS to full Plan Commission with Favorable
Recommendation,with the conditions that landscaping,sidewalk striping,trash enclosure design,and the
lighting plan is addressed,John seconds,motion passes 4-0.
2. Docket No. 18100012 DP/ADLS: Freddy's Frozen Custard & Steakburgers
3. Docket No. 18100013 SP:Replat,North Augusta,Lots 8&9
The applicant seeks site plan and design,as well as replat approval(from two lots into one lot)for a new
restaurant building on 1.38 acres.The site is located at 9701-9703 North Michigan Road. It is zoned B-
2/Business and is within the US 421 Overlay Zone. Filed by Eric Gleissner of Civil Site Group on behalf of the
owner.
Petitioners: Eric Gleissner(Civil Site Group)&Blake Epperson(Freddy's Frozen Custard&Steakburgers)
Eric Gleissner:
• This project went to Commission on January 15th and was sent to Committee with full voting authority.
• The architect has worked diligently with Staff to address all issues.
• Nearly all comments have been addressed.
• Outside of administrative items,with the Engineering Department,everything is ready to be finalized.
Department Report: Rachel Keesling
• The petitioner has completed the entire ProjectDox process.
• The only outstanding items were for the secondary plat,which has been addressed today and the need for
some percentages added to the signage. This has also been completed.
• Rachel showed the new building design(page 14& 15 of the submitted packet).
• Staff worked with the architect trying to simplify the design and pick different material other than stacked
stone.Joshua Kirsh felt this material was overused.
• A simple limestone base was added.As one moves up the tower elements,both larger and smaller brick
was added. This adds softness to the building design.
• The colors of the gooseneck fixtures are now black instead of red.
• There is a softer limestone.
• Nick Kestner had concern about the bricked in windows on the south and east facades.It is important for
the façade, in order to provide pedestrian scale detailing on an otherwise empty façade with a back-of-
house type uses, such as bathrooms and a kitchen.A darker brick and nice pattern has been included. This
also blends well with the brick detail above the awnings. I did disagree with Nick Kestner on this.
• John Adams-It looks like glass block,but it is brick?
• Correct,and in a basket weave pattern.
• Alan Potasnik-I also did not like the brick windows. It looks like a window was knocked out and then
bricked in. It would look less like if it was bricked in if glass block were used.
• What if it were the same brick color?
• Alan Potasnik-That would address your issue.As proposed the façade is no one single color,but this
does not break up the façade in a good way. If it were the same color all the way around, I would say the
façade should be bricked. Is there a reason glass block isn't used?
• Eric Gleissner-The spandrel glass sometimes causes a maintenance problem.Moisture may get behind
the glass and cause condensation.
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• Once brick is used, it is not an issue moving forward.
• Alan Potasnik-What is behind this wall?
• Eric Gleissner—The kitchen,food prep,and storage.
• Laura Campbell-Alan can you please elaborate on the bricked in area?
• Alan Potasnik-To me,personally, it looks like there were windows at these locations that were broken
enough times where they blocked it off.
• Maybe we could look at it with the same color brick?
• Laura Campbell-I wouldn't wish glass block on anyone. It is high maintenance.
• John Adams- Some pattern needs to be put in there to break up the wall. It is just a matter of what goes
there.
• Alan Potasnik-The corners, soldier course, and what is proposed may look nice. A sample was not
brought.
• John Adams-We would like to request something to break up that elevation. We do not want to keep this
in Committee.
• Maybe it is the pattern?The architect could try another pattern or use a different color.
• In working with the architect there will also be lighting underneath the awnings to illuminate the
driveway area,sidewalk,and front entrance. We reduced the amount of lighting in half.There are more
security lights on the drive-thru façade.
• Signage is good.
• The Secondary Plat is good,with all the changes to make it one lot instead of two.
• Everything is done on ProjectDox.
• Staff recommends approval tonight,contingent upon seeing other options for the bricked in areas.
• Tom Kegley-How do we approve this?
• John how can this be approved via the emails?
• John Molitor-Will this be sent back to the Commission?
• The Committee has final voting authority.
• Alan Potasnik-I do not want to hold this petition up.If everyone is satisfied with the proposal then we
can approve this.
• John Molitor-The condition would be that Staff can approve the final appearance of the building.
Committee Comments:
Laura Campbell:
• There is no longer the stacked stone around the building,but it is present at the drive-thru station.
• Rachel Keesling- I believe that is a rendering issue. It will also match the building.
Alan Potasnik:
• Did Josh Kirsh bring up to Staff a concern about the position of the building on US 412/Michigan Rd.
• Rachel Keesling-Josh spoke to me about connectivity issues later on,but nothing about this location.
John motions to approve Docket Nos. 18100012 DP/ADLS& 18100013 SP,with the condition that the final
materials used and cutouts on the facade will be mutually agreed upon by Staff and the petitioner,Laura
seconds,motion passes 4-0.
Rachel Keesling:
• I will also run the new brick options by the Committee members.
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4. Docket No.#19010009 ADLS Amend: Circle K#2275.
The applicant seeks design approval in order to rebrand an existing gas station including signs,canopy ACM
(metal panels),building color,and fuel pumps.The address is 1230 S.Range Line Rd. It is zoned B-3 and is
within the Range Line Road Overlay Zone.Filed by Justin Schleicher of Midwest Maintenance on behalf of
Mac's Convenience Stores,LLC.
Petitioners: Justin Schleicher(Midwest Maintenance)&Tim Wallace(Circle K)
Justin Schleicher:
• Circle K is going through a global rebranding. They are moving away from the existing Circle K logo and
instead with the red,white,and tangerine logo.
• In the submitted Packet,on page 3 and 4 are the proposed ground sign changes.
• Page 5 contains the building elements. We want to install a new Circle K building sign with the red,
white,and tangerine stripe.The only thing that will be illuminated is the Circle K logo and copy.
• Page 6 and 7 shows are two options for the canopy.The first is the Circle K tri-color and a red option.
Staff also had some different options. We are open to suggestions.
• On page 8, underneath the canopy is a basic image change for the fuel pumps. The balance would be
orange with Circle K on it.The dispensers will not be changed and will remain the same. The packet is
slightly deceiving.No video screen will be present.
• On page 9 is additional signage for the air and vacuum machines.The old logos are being replaced with
the new logos.
• Page 10 and 11 is for the car wash that is present on the property.The entrance and exit signs/imagery are
being replaced with new branding.
• John Adams-I am unclear in what is being proposed.Is it a fair assessment that only colors and signs are
being changed?No new equipment is being added?
• Correct,the gas station canopy fascia will receive a color change,new graphics on dispenser,a new color
scheme on the building,and new signage is being proposed.
• John Adams-What about lighting?
• No.
• Page 12 contains points of clarification.The upper building color options included neutral brown.This is
an option in different markets.The packet is a brand book from the sign company. The egret white is the
color of choice for the upper portion of the building in this market.
• There are no bollards in this location.
• All signs proposed will either be a vinyl,non-illuminated decal,or will have only copy and logos
illuminated.
• There were mentions in the Department Report about the sidewalk connection,bicycle parking,and
refreshing and replacing the landscaping that was a part of the previous plan.Circle K is willing to bring
everything up to code.
Department Report:Nathan Chavez
• The site is located at the southwest corner of Range Line Rd.and Cannel Dr.The site is an important area
for Cannel because of the high traffic volume and visibility. Three of the four corners are developed or
under development, including the Proscenium to the north.
• Staff recognizes the petitioner's right to remain at the location in their existing form,but also understand
that the site needs to be brought into compliance and meet the desired aesthetic of the area.The
petitioners have been willing to work with us and comply with Staff's requests.
• Staff is requesting that all outdoor products and storage is removed per the Range Line Rd. Overlay
requirements.This is not permitted.There is also a commitment from 1988 limiting outdoor product
storage. Removal of such items will help with American Disability Act(ADA)compliance because
propane tanks and ice machines are on the sidewalk hindering ADA mobility.
• With regards to alternative transportation,the petitioners are working with David Littlejohn,Alternative
Transportation Coordinator. He has reached out to you all?
• Justin Schleicher-I do not believe so.The only conversations I have had are with the Urban Forester.
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• I will give David your contact information. Staff will need to see additions of bike racks, a sidewalk
connection from Cannel Dr.to the gas station,and removal of the products stored on the sidewalk.
• The petitioner seeks to change the canopy colors.One of the proposals is red,but Staff would like to see
white to match the rest of the building. This should also help match the aesthetic of the area.
• Justin Schleicher-Is that the same as the egret white on the building?
• Yes. If there are other shades of white you would like to propose,please send that to Staff.
• Tim Wallace-There is no option at all to have Circle K's colors on the canopy?
• Staff is strongly recommending the white for the canopy. The final color approval is in the hands of the
Committee members. Staff will defer to them.
• The petitioner is also requesting to swap the existing ACM panels on the north,east,and south elevations
of the building for their new corporate identify.
• Staff is comfortable with the east elevation change. It is just a non-illuminated sign replacement.
• On the north and south elevations both proposed signs are larger than 3 sq. ft. and will need to be reduced
in order to remain.Just the copy is measured. Staff is also requesting that the ACM is reduced in length as
well.
• Staff is also requesting that the roof fascia is also painted the egret white. On page 5 of the Submitted
Packet the roof fascia is shown as grey. Is that something that can be changed?
• Justin Schleicher-Yes.
• Another sticking point for Staff is the visibility of the rooftop mechanical equipment. Currently,you can
see satellite dishes and other items. Staff needs cut-sheets with the proposed screening method and
material to hide these items.
• Will the curb remain around the pumps?
• Justin Schleicher-At the base of the islands?
• Correct.
• Justin Schleicher-Yes I believe those were retrofitted with the stainless steel.A lot of islands,over time,
have a tendency to fail. The stainless steel eliminates all the rusting and peeling from the concrete.
• They won't be painted at all?
• Justin Schleicher-No.
• In that case, Staff is also requesting the grey trim at the bottom of the canopy columns are painted to
match the nuthatch brown color on the building. This would tie the canopy columns with the principle
building.
• The petitioners are working with the Urban Forester. Staff does ask that landscaping is installed around
the ground signs,which is a requirement of the sign ordinance.
• Lastly,five sign permits will need to be submitted.The two ground signs and east facing wall sign are
acceptable as proposed.The north and south facing signs will need to be reduced in size. Staff is
comfortable with the fueling pump signage. It is less than 3 sq. ft. and is considered incidental.
• Staff recommends approval with the conditions that the petitioner receives approval from the Urban
Forester,Alternative Transportation Coordinator,and submits new renderings with approved changes and
colors.
Committee Comments:
Laura Campbell:
• Can you please elaborate the on the satellite dishes and the screening?
• Nathan Chavez-Per the Range Line Rd. Overlay district,rooftop equipment requires screening.
Currently, from both Range Line Rd.and Cannel Dr.you can see satellite dishes and air conditioning
units.
• I was surprised to see so many satellite dishes for the gas station.
• Tim Wallace-Back in the day credit card networks,the lottery,and phone booths were run through
satellites. We can go through and eliminate one or two of those.
• Alan Potasnik-But they need to be screened correct?
• Rachel Keesling-Anything that is on the roof needs to be screened.
• Tim Wallace-The biggest thing that will need to be screened is the HVAC unit.
• Rachel Keesling-The screening of those materials will drastically improve the look of the building.
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• Justin Schleicher-As far as the screening goes,typically how much is needed?
• Rachel Keesling-It is all four sides.In a perfect world the building design of the building would include
parapets to hide any equipment. For retrofitting,such as this,screening is the best method.
Alan Potasnik:
• I want to make certain of what will occur with the outdoor storage. Will this be eliminated?
• Nathan Chavez-The outdoor storage will need to be removed in order to comply with the Overlay district
and a previous commitment. The commitment can be found on Laserfiche(titled Commitment Letter
Docket#097-88).
• John Adams-Is this for this particular site or all sites?
• Nathan Chavez-The commitment is for the current site,but the Circle K to the north is also within the
Range Line Rd.Overlay district.
• John Adams-It will certainly approve the appearance. Is it possible to put propane inside?
• Tim Wallace-No.
• John Adams-If.you can't put it outside then you'll have to quit selling it.
• Alan Potasnik-It is not that they can't put it outside;they need to have it enclosed and not just out.
• John Adams-It's in a cage and locked up.
• Tim Wallace-Some municipalities where they don't allow outdoor displays,we have been able to find
another outdoor location and screen it. We erect a wall or fence and then store the product so it's not
visible.
• Rachel Keesling-Think of the GetGo's in Carmel. They have brick enclosures screening propane cages.
A screened area can certainly occur on these sites.
• Justin Schleicher-This would be more or less an exception for the propane cages?
• Alan Potasnik-You won't have stacks of Coke on the sidewalk. There are a lot of things besides propane.
• Justin Schleicher-I was curious because of the ice machines.
• Tim Wallace-This particular store has a small footprint with no freezer space inside. If screening occurs
we would like the ability to include the propane and ice bunkers behind the screen.
• Alan Potasnik-I do not see an issue with that.
• Rachel Keesling-The Range Line Rd. Overlay stipulates that"product storage shall occur within the
Principal building or an Accessory building."(UDO 3.78.A.1)
• Alan Potasnik- Staff is requesting that the canopy is all white?
• Nathan Chavez-Correct. Staff would prefer a white canopy to match the building and light poles. Staff is
not opposed to another color,maybe a red or tangerine.
• Rachel Keesling-Think of the Turkey Hill just northeast of the subject site.The canopy had a decorative
cornice rather than tied to a specific color or branding element. It was more tied to the design of the
building.
• Alan Potasnik-I believe that is the way it was with Rickers too.
• Rachel Keesling-Granted this is an existing canopy with existing ACM,which is why Staff is leaning
more towards white than a color in order to tie it into the building design rather than bright in lieu of a
new canopy with more decorative features.
• Rachel Keesling-The definition of Accessory Building reads;"A Building subordinate to another
Structure or Use located on the same Lot which is not used for permanent human occupancy..."(UDO
Definitions: Building,Accessory). I think it has to have a roof. The definition refers to structure which
reads;"...enclosed by walls and a roof."Could you put a roof on it?
• Alan Potasnik-It is what it is.
• Justin Schleicher-As far as the propane tanks and ice machines?
• Rachel Keesling-Yes. If it going to be housed in an accessory building.
• John Adams-We will need to check code for that.
• Tim Wallace-I think when it comes to propane, it cannot be in a fully enclosed structure.
• John Adams-I think that's why in most cases propane tanks are exposed to air.
• Alan Potasnik-You all may want to check that out. If worse comes to worse, go to the Board of Zoning
Appeals and apply for a variance.
• Rachel Keesling-That is a true hardship.
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• Alan Potasnik-Nathan,you mentioned that the signage on the pumps was incidental. The submitted
Packets shows a picture of the existing pumps with advertising. It is my understanding that advertising
has to be relative to what is taking place on the property. I do not see any proposed signage on the
proposed fuel pumps. Is this an accurate depiction?
• Justin Schleicher-The intention is to leave the merchandising pump topper,advertising what is inside the
store. The proposed elevation is misleading.Only the dispenser will be changed.The graphics will be
switched to the Circle K graphics.
• Alan Potasnik-There will be advertising on the pumps?
• Justin Schleicher-Yes.The merchandising pump topper will remain.
• Alan Potasnik-That's incidental?
• Nathan Chavez-Correct.
• Alan Potasnik-Does the same thing apply to the vacuum and air pump?I didn't know Circle K air is
different than other air.They can have those signs?
• Nathan Chavez-They are also treated as incidental and are just being refaced. Staff is not opposed to the
signage being removed entirely though.
John Adams:
• Looking at what looked to be a change of signage and other things,now there are a lot of things occurring
and changing. How does the petitioner feel about all of the changes?
• Tim Wallace-Overall,we plan on working with Staff as much as possible. We want to get our name and
color on as many items as we can.Overall we are proud of our image and want to show as much as we
can.
• Putting myself in the shoes of a business owner; Circle Ks are all over the place,and if this location is the
only exception to their branding, it could be a detriment to people who are used to all their branding and
miss the store. I am not sure how firm we should be when requiring a certain color that is not consistent
with their branding. The proposed branding is consistent with the other locations?
• Tim Wallace-Correct.Typically,most of the rebranded sites, involved tweaking signage illumination,but
they have allowed us to keep the Circle K colors.
• I have mixed feelings. I can see the argument to keep the brand image and is consistent with each location
and is important for the business. I also see the side where the City does not something to stand out.
• Nathan Chavez-With this site in particular, it is important to note that it is a pivotal part for the City and
Staff would like to bring it up the next level of aesthetics. People who do frequent this Circle K will see
plenty of signs. There are two ground signs with Circle K and the Circle K colors are on three sides of the
building.Additionally,there is downlight under the canopy illuminating the Circle K brand.
• Alan Potasnik-I do not have an issue with the Staff recommendations for conformance purposes.Not a
lot of things are changing, it's just a rebrand. Residents of Cannel will know what it is.
• If you are familiar with it you'll visit this site. If you are not familiar with the area and you're looking for
a convenience store/gas station you look for the colors and symbols. Are we doing an injustice to the
business?
• Alan Potasnik-You right now want to do the red?
• Justin Schleicher-Ideally,the canopy would encompass some form of the tri-color,which is the red,
white,and orange. There was one suggestion to scale down the proposal on the canopy. We understand
that each community is different.
• Alan Potasnik-When I look at the canopy, if it's in a red,white,and orange,which is basically what the
signage is,then that becomes a big pole sign. I do not have a problem with just red. I am struggling with
why it has to be white. I do with the tricolor.
• What are we looking at for approval,a white canopy?
• Rachel Keesling-It is ultimately up to the Committee.
• Is what is proposed in the Packet?
• Nathan Chavez-On page 6& 7 of the Packet are the two proposals by the petitioner.
• Rachel Keesling-There are three options on the table;tricolor, solid red, and a request for solid white.
• Staff is requesting solid white?
• Rachel Keesling-Yes.
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• Alan Potasnik-The petitioner is proposing solid red and Staff is proposing solid white.The choice is up
to us.
• John Adams-I am still a little confused.
• Nathan Chavez-John,there are three options that the Committee can move forward with.They are the
tricolor;red,white,&tangerine, solid red,or as Staff proposed,and not present in the packet, solid white.
• The proposed solid red,251 linear feet of ACM panels;that is a second option?
• Tim Wallace-On page 6 of the Packet is the original proposed option. Based on comments from Staff we
reverted to the solid red in hopes to come up with a mutual agreement.
• Alan Potasnik-Does anyone here have a feeling about the red or white canopy color.
• Laura Campbell-I am fine with the red.
• John Adams&Tom Kegley-I am too.
• Nathan Chavez-Can I go review what Staff would like the approval conditioned on?
• Alan Potasnik-You would like to let us know how to formulate the motion?
• Nathan Chavez-Correct.
• Alan Potasnik-Go ahead.
• Nathan Chavez-Staff recommends approval with the conditions that the petitioner receive approval for
the landscape plan from the Urban Forester,receives approval for the transportation plan from the
Alternative Transportation Coordinator, Staff receives updated renderings for signage,canopy,&rooftop
screening,and removal of outdoor storage.
• Alan Potasnik-How does the Committee feel about that motion.
• I am ok with it,but how does the petitioner feel?
• Justin Schleicher-The red canopy, landscape plan,ADA transportation plan,and rooftop screening is
something that can be accomplished.The only point of contention is the propane tanks and ice machine.
• Tim Wallace-We will work through the Board of Zoning Appeals on that.
• Rachel Keesling-You agree that it needs to be addressed and you will address it?
• Justin Schleicher&Tim Wallace-Yes.
Laura motions to approve Docket No. 19010009 ADLS Amend,with the conditions that the landscape plan
is approved,transportation plan is approved,updated renderings are submitted to Staff,and outdoor
storage is removed appropriately,John seconds,motion passes 4-0.
5. Docket No.#19010010 ADLS Amend: Circle K#2368.
The applicant seeks design approval in order to rebrand an existing gas station building ACM(metal panels).The
address is 545 S. Range Line Rd. It is zoned B-1 and is within the Range Line Road Overlay Zone. Filed by Justin
Schleicher of Midwest Maintenance on behalf of Mac's Convenience Stores,LLC.
Petitioners: Justin Schleicher(Midwest Maintenance)&Tim Wallace(Circle K)
Justin Schleicher:
• The plan is to not change the canopy.
• The imagery is similar on the price sign.All we are requesting is changing the Circle K to the new image;
red,white and tangerine. Only the logo will illuminate.
• I believe sign permits were approved for the K.On page 3 of the submitted Packet there is a proposed
change from the gas station prices to scrollers.This provides a traditional look while allowing employees
to change the price easier.
• The building will remain similar.The building fascia has two canopy columns against it.The red Circle K
aimers are between the two columns.The area will be rebranded with the tricolor panels and signage.
There will not be an illuminated sign because the illumination has no effect.
• The painting scheme is similar.The building is egret white with 30"nuthatch brown trim.
• There are no proposed changes to the canopy. Everything is remaining Shell.
• The kerosene sign will remain the same. The graphics are being changed over.
• There has been discussion with Staff about the landscape plan and outdoor storage similar to the Circle K
on Cannel Dr.and Range Line Rd.These are items we are willing to work with Staff on in order to meet
code.
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• Again the Range Line Overlay prohibits outdoor storage and we can move in the same direction as the
previous item on the agenda(Docket#19010009).The petitioner can apply for a variance for the propane
tanks. The other pallets and materials can be place inside or within an accessory structure.
• The Alternative Transportation Coordinator will be working with the petitioner to install bike racks. Staff
would like approval conditioned on approval condition on installation.
• The canopy is not being changed and Staff is in support of the tricolor non-illuminated ACM.
• The petitioner is working with the Urban Forester on the landscape plan. Staff would also like approval
conditioned upon approval of the landscape plan.
• Staff is requesting that landscaping is added to the ground sign,per the sign ordinance standards.
• Will there be any lighting change, like LED installed to the light poles?
• Tim Wallace-Typically energy monies are allocated each year. I cannot promise that it will occur right
away, but it is on the list to upgrade to LED.
• When this does occur, Staff needs to make sure that the foot-candle at the property lines is 0.5.
• With regards to signage;the wall and ground sign have been approved by Staff.A sign permit will need
to be submitted for the scrollers.This will be handled by the Sign Administrator.
• The kerosene sign has been approved already. The red pump topper was removed. The decal was
approved.
• Staff recommends approval with the conditions that the Urban Forester&Alternative Transportation
Coordinator approve their plans and that all outdoor storage is removed or a variance is sought after.
Committee Comments:
John Adams:
• Will the outdoor storage include the salt?
• Nathan Chavez-Correct.
• That's a shame. It is convenient for customers to pull up and throw in their vehicle.
• Rachel Keesling-It is beyond his control.
Laura Campbell:
• Where would the bicycle parking be placed?
• Nathan Chavez-Bicycle parking needs to be placed within 50 ft. of the front entrance. I am not sure what
the Alternative Transportation Coordinator would suggest,but I would recommend on the north side of
the building because there is no parking there.There is parking on the south side of the building,
including handicap parking.
• Rachel Keesling-Wherever it would be safest.
Alan Potasnik:
• Nathan would you want to read the recommended approval with conditions?
• Nathan Chavez- Staff recommends approval with the conditions that the petitioner receive approval for
the landscape plan from the Urban Forester,receives approval for the transportation plan from the
Alternative Transportation Coordinator,and removal of outdoor storage occur appropriately.
Tom motions to approve Docket No. 19010010 ADLS Amend,with the conditions that the landscape plan is
approved,transportation plan is approved,and outdoor storage is removed appropriately,John seconds,
motion passes 4-0.
Meeting adjourned at 7:30 PM.
Nathan Chavez Recording Secretary Alan Potasni; Committee Chairman
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