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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes COM 02-05-19 44. otrix v. 8 City o f C 1/N.,/F Carmel Plan Commission COMMERCIAL COMMITTEE Tuesday, February 5, 2019 Meeting Location: Carmel City Hall Caucus Rooms,2nd Floor, 1 Civic Square,Carmel,IN 46032 Members Present: Tom Kegley,Alan Potasnik(Committee Chairman),John Adams, Laura Campbell Staff Present: Rachel Keesling(Planning Administrator),Nathan Chavez(Recording Secretary) Legal Counsel:John Molitor Time of Meeting: 6:00 PM The Commercial Committee met to consider the following items: 1. Docket No. 18100014 DP/ADLS: Bank of America The applicant seeks site plan and design approval for a new bank on 7.54 acres. The site is located at about 10850 N. Michigan Rd. The site is zoned B3/Business and is within the US 421 Overlay. Filed by Zak Klobucar of Gensler on behalf of Bank of America. Petitioners: Bert Boldizsar(Gensler),John Pearson(Pearson Nottingham,LLC),&Russ Webster(Weihe Engineers) Bert Boldizsar: • This petition was last seen at Plan Commission(Commission)on December 18,2018. • Most of the comments received at Commission were addressed. Other comments were subjective and pertained to the building appearance.Our understanding is that the architecture does not meet the intent of the Unified Development Ordinance(UDO). Some of the elements were a little too modern. Direct federal detail was added to the building. • Beginning on page 6 of the submitted Packet you can find street views of the building.Most of the glass 1st story was replaced with brick in a traditional sense.A gable front was included,with a palladium style window. Quite a bit of detail was added to the copping and cornice of the building.The massing is similar and emphasizes the center of the building. • Others comments regarding the rear of the building were made.A joke was made that it looked prison- like. Because of the layout of the interior more glass was unable to be included.Quite a bit of detailed brick work is present. • One of the Commission member's primary concerns was the flatness of the rear façade.This has been improved. • Signage remains the same.It is modest and low key. The Bank of America sign may be illuminated in the evening with the Bank of America colors,red and blue,on the logo. • The rest of the design stayed essentially the same. Our clients are happy with the design. Department Report: Rachel Keesling • Rachel passed around the previous version of the bank located in the Packet for PC 12-18-18. • The revised design is in line with a strict federal style building with the extra detailing and ornamentation. The building is warmer,as far as more approachable.There is more details and depth to the window areas.The architectural design of the roof above the front entrance speaks to the federal style,as well as, the molding and windows.The architecture is true to the UDO requirements.The petitioners have gone above and beyond. Commercial Committee Minutes 02-05-19 1 • I was unsure how the Commercial Committee(Committee)would feel about the backside of the building with the window detailing. Staff is comfortable with the detailing. • Tom Kegley-Is that the old or the new rendering? • It is the new elevation. I will show you the old elevations. • Bert Boldizsar-There is an option to add a window and essentially build a wall behind the window. There are issues with security and condensation then. • Rachel showed the old elevations. • There is a lot more depth and a rhythm to the west façade even though there are not windows.The original façade looked flat and plain. • The petitioner worked hard to address Staff's concerns. Does the façade look less jail-like?I hope so.It is prettier to say the least. • Overall,the site layout was always acceptable with Staff,with parking in front.The site meets all applicable requirements. • There are outstanding comments: o Staff still needs the trash enclosure design. o Bicycle parking is actually shown on the site plan. Staff initially missed this on the plans. o The lighting plan needs adjustments in order to comply. o The landscape plan has been approved. o The petitioner needs to work with Staff and the property owner to the north to add a connection point to Redd Road,two properties north of the subject site. To the north is the old Walmart site. There should be a road that comes down through that site and connects to this site.Apartments are now planned in Zionsville on their portion of that site. We are working with both landowners to connect the roads. • In the Department Report Staff recommends this petition is continued to the March 5th Committee meeting. However, if the Committee is agreeable to the rear façade changes, Staff can secure the design of the trash enclosure and lighting plan compliance before the next meeting. • Staff is supportive of the petition and the work that has been done.The windows were not added to the rear of the building as requested. Committee Comments: Alan Potasnik: • At the December 18th Commission meeting a few comments were made.Nick Kestner wanted a path from the building entrance to Michigan Rd.This should be marked.Josh Kirsh noted that the back of the building looked like a prison and the landscaping needs upgraded.Another Commission member stated there is no light at Nottingham Way and Michigan Rd. • Rachel Keesling-A light at Nottingham Way and Michigan Rd. is not planned. Striping will need to be updated to more clearly show the path,but it does exist. John Adams: • Was landscaping and lighting included in the original packet?The packet for this meeting just shows changes? • Rachel Keesling-Yes. This submission includes mostly the architecture. • Were there significant changes for the landscaping or other sections of this petition? • Rachel Keesling-The landscaping has been approved and there were no significant changes.The lighting plan does not meet the 0.3 foot-candles at the property lines.Adjustments need to be made. • Bert Boldizsar-We can meet the lighting requirement. • I believe Committee is ready to move this forward. I trust Staff with figuring out what type of trash enclosure design is best, as well as,any other minor detail. Laura Campbell: • Are there any glass windows on the drive-thru? • Bert Boldizsar-There are none. • Are there any tellers? Commercial Committee Minutes 02-05-19 2 • Bert Boldizsar-There are not. I believe it is all automated. • Alan Potasnik-At the Keystone at the Crossing branch it looks like there is a kiosk. Wil this location be similar?Have you built similar sites in Hamilton County? • Bert Boldizsar-I am not familiar with that location. We have not.This program is relatively new and typically begins with smaller locations. Tom Kegley: • I have nothing to add. The overall improvements are quite good and the outstanding issues,that still exist, are approachable in the time frame. Tom motions to forward Docket No.18100014 DP/ADLS to full Plan Commission with Favorable Recommendation,with the conditions that landscaping,sidewalk striping,trash enclosure design,and the lighting plan is addressed,John seconds,motion passes 4-0. 2. Docket No. 18100012 DP/ADLS: Freddy's Frozen Custard & Steakburgers 3. Docket No. 18100013 SP:Replat,North Augusta,Lots 8&9 The applicant seeks site plan and design,as well as replat approval(from two lots into one lot)for a new restaurant building on 1.38 acres.The site is located at 9701-9703 North Michigan Road. It is zoned B- 2/Business and is within the US 421 Overlay Zone. Filed by Eric Gleissner of Civil Site Group on behalf of the owner. Petitioners: Eric Gleissner(Civil Site Group)&Blake Epperson(Freddy's Frozen Custard&Steakburgers) Eric Gleissner: • This project went to Commission on January 15th and was sent to Committee with full voting authority. • The architect has worked diligently with Staff to address all issues. • Nearly all comments have been addressed. • Outside of administrative items,with the Engineering Department,everything is ready to be finalized. Department Report: Rachel Keesling • The petitioner has completed the entire ProjectDox process. • The only outstanding items were for the secondary plat,which has been addressed today and the need for some percentages added to the signage. This has also been completed. • Rachel showed the new building design(page 14& 15 of the submitted packet). • Staff worked with the architect trying to simplify the design and pick different material other than stacked stone.Joshua Kirsh felt this material was overused. • A simple limestone base was added.As one moves up the tower elements,both larger and smaller brick was added. This adds softness to the building design. • The colors of the gooseneck fixtures are now black instead of red. • There is a softer limestone. • Nick Kestner had concern about the bricked in windows on the south and east facades.It is important for the façade, in order to provide pedestrian scale detailing on an otherwise empty façade with a back-of- house type uses, such as bathrooms and a kitchen.A darker brick and nice pattern has been included. This also blends well with the brick detail above the awnings. I did disagree with Nick Kestner on this. • John Adams-It looks like glass block,but it is brick? • Correct,and in a basket weave pattern. • Alan Potasnik-I also did not like the brick windows. It looks like a window was knocked out and then bricked in. It would look less like if it was bricked in if glass block were used. • What if it were the same brick color? • Alan Potasnik-That would address your issue.As proposed the façade is no one single color,but this does not break up the façade in a good way. If it were the same color all the way around, I would say the façade should be bricked. Is there a reason glass block isn't used? • Eric Gleissner-The spandrel glass sometimes causes a maintenance problem.Moisture may get behind the glass and cause condensation. Commercial Committee Minutes 02-05-19 3