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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes TAC 06-01-00 �u1llt 7 0co - -7-AQ lruae s -ek u r(J1- Long Branch Estates Subdivision (108-00 PP) The petitioner seeks approval (Primary Plat)to plat 150 lots on 119.6±acres. The site is located on the northwest corner of West 116th Street and Shelbourne Road. The site is zoned S-1/residence and is being developed as a Qualifying Subdivision under ROSO. Filed by Richard J. Kelly of Paul I. Cripe, Inc. for Pulte Homes. Rich Kelly, Paul I. Cripe, reviewed the primary plat filed as Park Side Preserve. The name has been changed to Long Branch Estates. He introduced Paul Rioux and Ken Brasseur, Platinum Properties, Sean Degen, Pulte Homes, and Gary Murray, Paul I. Cripe. The site is on the north side of 116th Street in Clay Township west of Shelbourne Road to 121St Street. There is an existing residence to the northeast that is not included in the subdivision. Long Branch Creek bisects the site. They propose to develop, under the open space ordinance, a 150-lot single family subdivision. Four waivers will be filed tomorrow. Two are subdivision control and two are open space related. The petitioner wishes to forego installation of a stub street to the eastern property line of the subdivision. This will be done primary due to the topography and existence of a residence and lake on that property where a stub street would be installed. They will plat a cul de sac in excess of 600 feet. It is Creekview Court. This is due to the relationship of the street to the entrance drive. They exceed the maximum by approximately 150 feet. The two other waivers are open space ordinance related involving the protection of conservation areas. They ask permission to clear more than 50 percent of shrub woodlands. The petitioner wants to protect the"young"woodlands. They will need to clear and re-grade more than 15 percent of steep slopes. They want to preserve the more important natural aspects of the site. Chuck Shupperd understands that gas service will start at 116th Street. Rich Kelly said the subdivision would be developed in three phases. The southwest quadrant will be constructed first during the fourth quarter of this year. Then the southeast and northeast quadrants will be developed. Steve Broermann stated the cul de sac would require a variance from the County Commissioners. The intersection of 116th and Shelbourne Road will be realigned. Matt Morasch, Hamilton County Highway Department, would like another meeting to discuss realignment. Sean Degen agreed to learn more about realignment. Carmel ordinance requires 30-foot streets. The question remains regarding the 26-foot cul de sacs. The petitioner will further discuss with staff. Jeff Rice does not have plans on this. He is not sure if there is service on 116th Street. A feeder may be needed. Development will start in late fall. Mr. Rice is not sure if there is existing service on 116th Street. A feeder may be needed. He will be given plans. Steve Cash stated the storm sewers need a petition for the county regulated drain. He questioned the drain direction of the 18-inch storm sewer. It will drain into the pond. The pipe at the entrance drive seems to be going the wrong direction. It will be corrected. Detention pond number 3 is in the flood hazard area. He asked how it would t • be handled as it needs to be 100 year. Rich Kelly said all storage would be above base elevation. A levee will need to be constructed between the pond and the receiving stream in order to allow it to elevate above natural grade. The contours are not labeled in a clear fashion. They will be above the flood elevation. A legal drain needs to be established on the plat. It could be in the common area. The easement will have to cover the floodway. John Lester does not see paths along 116th Street and 121St Street. He recommends a 10 foot path on both roads but would accept an eight foot path on 121st Street. The Shelborne Road path needs to be identified. Scott Brewer only saw one section of the plans, did not receive open space plans, and requested a meeting regarding open space and tree preservation. He wants to see a planting schedule, a planting specification, and a maintenance plan. There are too many red maples. Mr. Brewer would like to discuss alternate species. Gary Hoyt asked if this would be a gated community. It will not. The Long Branch Trail street stub will hook up with the proposed street under the Eagle Ridge Primary Plat. Connection will be required. This will be in the third phase and will probably be completed before Eagle Ridge. A temporary turn around will be needed. John South distributed a letter. He likes the green space protecting Long Branch and the main drainage from the north. The soils are suitable for development. They may need more funds for erosion control due to the soils and slopes. He urged the petitioner to minimize the grading as much as possible. The soils are shallow. This is an ideal location for individual grading of lots as they are sold. These semi custom homes all will have basements. A community benefit is the small amount of land disturbance. Some drainage along county roads needs to be better addressed. Rich Kelly requested a meeting with John South. Bill Akers talked to Rich Kelly about street names. Shadow Wood Court should be two words. He will wait for the secondary plat before addressing. Laurence Lillig said most of his comments have been addressed. An amenity area is planned to include a bathhouse, small pool, and open grassland area. Mr. Lillig commented that the BZA prefers neighborhood pools to be competition sized. They cannot place the pool in the common area that is set aside for drainage easement. The county and township have different requirements for the accel/decel lane length. Carmel lengths were used-100 foot for decel. In this case, Carmel will accept the lesser requirement if the County is willing to forego that. The amenity area must go through the BZA. Sean Degen commented that amenities are usually sized to the number of homes they serve. Laurence Lillig suggested reviewing previous approvals of Emerald Crest at Hazel Dell Summit and Lakes of Hazel Dell. A lifeguard is also needed for pools.