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Carmel Plan Commission
COMMERCIAL COMMITTEE
Thursday, June 27, 2019 Meeting
Location: Cannel City Hall Caucus Rooms,2nd Floor, 1 Civic Square,Cannel, IN 46032
Members Present: Alan Potasnik,(Committee Chairman),John Adams,&Laura Campbell
Members Absent:Joshua Kirsh
Staff Present: Rachel Keesling(Planning Administrator)&Nathan Chavez(Recording Secretary)
Legal Counsel:John Molitor
Time of Meeting: 6:02 PM
The Commercial Committee met to consider the following items:
1. Docket No. 18120015 ADLS: Vine Health Care
2. Docket No. 18120016 V:UDO Section 5.28.E.2—Reduction of required curbs
3. Docket No. 18120017 V:UDO Section 3.62.A.1.c.ii.—Lot Coverage: 70% allowed,80% requested
4. Docket No. 18120018 V: UDO Section 3.62.A.2.a.—Additions shall not be added to the front of the building
except where the building is set back more than 20' from the setback line of its nearest two neighbors,
Addition to the front requested with 2' setback
The applicant seeks site plan and design approval with 3 variances for additions on the front and rear to an
existing medical office building totaling 1,445 sq.ft.on 0.25 acres.The site is located at 40 N. Range Line Road.
It is zoned B-2/Business and is within the Old Town Overlay District, Historical Range Line sub-area. Filed by
Adam DeHart of Keeler Webb on behalf of the owner,Vine Real Estate Holdings.
Alan Potasnik: The Carmel Plan Commission(Commission)gave the Cannel Commercial Committee
(Committee)final voting authority for this petition?Rachel Keesling: Yes they did.
Petitioners: Adam DeHart(Keeler-Webb&Associates), Stuart R. Shade(SRS Architects,Inc.),Ellen Antoine
(Vine Healthcare,LLC),&Scott Antoine(Vine Healthcare,LLC):
Adam DeHart:
• The variances were not discussed much at the June 18th Commission.
• The Packet for PC 06-18-19 submitted has a lot of petition information in it.The electronic submission
Packet for COM 06-27-19 is the same as the copy I am giving out currently.
• Additional detail is present in the Committee packet and pertains to variance 18120018 V. More detail
has been added to the front addition.
• One of the items discussed at the June 18th Commission was comparing the existing facility to the
proposed building additions. Pages 3-5 of Packet for COM 06-27-19 contain photos of the existing
building. The colored pictures provide a good idea of what is going on.
• The site is originally residential in nature and has been remodeled a few times for commercial use.A
brick addition lean-to is on the north side. On page 4 is a photo of the south side with an existing ADA
(Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990)ramp,which will remain in place.
• On page 5 a photo from the tea room front porch is present along with the north elevation where the brick
lean-to is.
• Also on page 5 is a photo showing the existing suspended sign,which will remain, but be relocated.
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• On the front façade,the east elevation,a wall sign is still proposed. There is a honey locust tree in the
City of Cannel(City)right-of-way(ROW). The wall sign on the building may not be installed right now,
but wanted it approved by the Committee and Commission, if the owner decides to pull a sign permit.
• There were some questions about the rain garden, but were answered. I have some submittals for the
Department of Engineering(Engineering)regarding some technical standards comments.
• More details have been added to the drawing to better define the proposed materials used on the building.
More glazing has been added around the front door. A teal blue awning is proposed above the rear door.
• We are required to maintain the existing façade on the north elevation. Right now it is painted white
brick.The proposed building scheme is grey with white trim. The intent is to match the color of the
composite so the whole building is a similar color.
• The door on the north elevation needs to be installed to comply with Indiana Building Code.
• One review comment was"Why are there are no windows around the north elevation door?"Because
Vine Health Care is a medical facility, HIPAA(Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act)
requirements prohibit windows. That is why that section is a brick façade with not many features.
• Minor revisions to the landscape plan, found under tab 2 in the Submitted Packet,have been made and we
believe it is in compliance.The inclusion of air conditioning units and relocation of landscaping,to utilize
as a buffer for mechanical equipment,has occurred.
• We have not received any comments from the neighbors.
• We are requesting the Committee votes this evening.
Department Report: Rachel Keesling:
• Did you figure out anything about the guy-wire and placement of the sidewalk?Adam DeHart: We are
in the process of working on that.The general contractor is working on it. Utility companies are slow to
respond. It is likely that the poles and guy-wires will be removed and there will be an underground supply
to the building,but are waiting to hear back from the utility company.
• The landscaping plan is generally fine. Every bit of landscapable area is landscaped. Moving some of the
landscaping around to cover some of the air conditioning units is good. If we make a vote subject to the
Urban Forester approval that will be fine.The Urban Forester did not have many outstanding comments.
• Signage is one of the last items. The overall spandrel panel dimensions are shown on the east elevation.
The proposed north sign was removed. The existing suspended sign they have now is fine,or they can
change it to a different design or post.A post and arm configuration(Suspended sign) is required.Two
signs are permitted.
• A comment from the Commission was how to improve the north elevation. A canopy entrance was added
over the door. That helps break up the façade. With a fresh coat of paint and additional landscaping it is
not detrimental to leave it as is. Tearing holes into the walls to add windows is not necessary. Windows
will be present and the building is broken into three parts. I like keeping the brick area brick with siding
on either side. It adds definition.
• All other requirements are met except the three items that are associated with the requested variances,
which the Department of Community Services(Staff)is supportive of.
• The reduction of the curbs request is to help with the rain garden and have the water flow into the rain
garden directly.
• The lot coverage percentage is just over the permitted allowance,but is very close to the existing lot
coverage. Staff is okay with this especially since improvements are being made to take care of the storm
water by including the rain garden.
• Overall the reorientation of the parking and access from the alley makes more sense than the current
configuration.
• The last variance is for additions to the front and rear of the building.Additions cannot occur unless there
is a 20' setback line from the nearest two neighbors.This is not detrimental to the area because adjacent
blocks are similar with buildings brought up to the street.A new project in the near future at the PNC
bank site across the street will be brought up to the street as well. This area will evolve.
• Staff supports this petition with the conditions that the landscape plan is approved by the Urban Forester
and updates are given regarding the guy-wire.
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Committee Comments:
Alan Potasnik:
• Is the guy-wire something that can be taken care of in the short term?I want to make sure Staff is
satisfied.Rachel Keesling: There is no sidewalk there now and the petitioner is proposing to improve the
area by adding a sidewalk. It won't be any worse if it stays the same. I doubt the controls would be put
underground(based on past resistance from Duke Energy).Adam DeHart: If you are looking at the site
plan the power pole with E dash lines coming up to it for the overhead to the power pole,underground to
our new service,which is basically in the same part of the building.The issue with the guy-wire is that
one or two of them are in or adjacent to the existing ADA ramp and the proposed curb-cut onto the street.
We are hoping either the guy wires will be redesigned and the pole will remain and the sidewalk will stay
the same except for the new curb cut or the pole will be removed and there will be an underground service
from the alley straight to the building.A file and permit were submitted with the utility company.
Laura Campbell:
• You referenced HIPAA laws in relation to the windows. Can you please elaborate?Adam DeHart: You
cannot have someone walking by and see patient's paper work through a window. Laura Campbell: This
is in regard to paperwork?Adam DeHart: Yes,the offices are located there.
John Adams:
• The guy-wire doesn't have anything to do with the ADLS approval?Worst case scenario is that the
developer is held up because the curb cut cannot be installed,but this has nothing to do with the ADLS
approval.Rachel Keesling: It does because the side walk and curb cut are infrastructure we are
approving and want to see put in.Adam Dehart: If we couldn't get it done,the sidewalk and curb cut
would remain and not change. It is on us to rectify the situation.John Adams: The only thing that is
pending is approval of the landscape plan.Rachel Keesling: Yes.
Alan Potasnik:
• Is the 6-inch trim noted on the elevation drawings; is that wood or aluminum?Adam DeHart:
Composite.
• The existing ramp on the west elevation is to remain.There is a ramp on the south elevation.Are there
two ramps there or do they tie into another?Adam Dehart: The ramp stems from the building on the
south side and extends to the west to the parking lot. It will be cleaned up,but works well now and works
well with the new design because it ties into an existing part of the structure that we aren't modifying.
John motions to approve Docket Nos. 18120015 ADLS& 18120016-18 V with the condition that the
landscape plan is approved by the Urban Forester,Laura seconds,motion passes 3-0.
5. Docket No. 19040006 DP/ADLS: Indianapolis Rehabilitation Institute
The applicant seeks site plan and design approval for a new medical building on 4.79 acres. The building will be
about 46,500 sq. ft.,31' tall, house 40 beds for patients,and will have 109 parking spaces provided.The site is
located at 12325 Pennsylvania Street within the City Center at Penn development. The site is zoned B3/Business
and is not located within an overlay zone. Filed by Alex Bennett of WB Development Partners.
Petitioners: Cory Griffin(Perkins&Will),Alex Bennett(WB Development),&Nathan Horgan(American
Structurepoint)
Alex Bennett:
• We are proposing a single-story inpatient rehabilitation hospital to be located on a vacant site behind the
Shoot Point Blank facility to the south and the Wellbrooke assisted living facility to the west. The
development is a single-story masonry building.
• This is a step down for a key care hospital and this is where patients will rehabilitate in order to return to
being able to be a productive member of society. Patients typically stay anywhere from 10-14 days.
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