HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes PC 07-16-19 Lots 33 &34 garage and driveway would be on the north-end. Lot 1 drive and garage would be on the east side. Jon
Dobosiewicz: We will take a look at it and we can accommodate this. Brad: Adding amenities would be helpful.The
aerial views of the surrounding neighborhoods shows more open space in Bear Creek and Overbrook Farms than what is
Ibeing proposed in Troy Estates. I would like the lot sizes,density,and open space to be more proportional to the adjacent
neighborhoods. Jon Dobosiewicz: The open area(green space)you see in the neighborhoods that border 146th Street
will eventually become developed as a part of the 146th Street expansion
Carrie: I agree with more amenities. Grannan Grove has 14 lots and does not have any amenities. It hard to sell homes
to families because of the lack of sidewalks and playground. Revisit the landscaping requirements. I understand it will
be hard to add four sided architecture due to the high costs. Instead you can include more landscaping and it will look
much better.
Nick: I have concerns with the distance between the homes. When they are this close,they have trouble landscaping it
and usually put up privacy fencing. How can this be an attractive area instead of putting up privacy fences? Jon
Dobosiewicz: We will look into this and provide an exhibit/rendering of the side by side homes. Wood privacy fences
are prohibited.Lennar does not want this look. Wrought-iron fences will be allowed. Brad: Make sure the architecture
standards explain wood privacy fences are not allowed,and open-style fences are allowed.
Sue: Can you provide more renderings showing all sides of the homes? They do look a lot alike.
A Motion by Josh and seconded by Tom to forward Docket Nos. 19050020 Z, 19050021 PP,and 19050022 V to the
August 6 Residential Committee and will return to the full Plan Commission with final voting authority.
Motion passes 7-0,absent Campbell,Adams
10. Docket No. 19050026 Z: Rezone S-1 to B-3
11. Docket No. 19050027 DP/ADLS: Take 5 Quick Lube
The applicant seeks rezone, site plan and design approval for a new auto service/oil change facility on 0.66
acres. The building will be approximately 1,500 sq. ft.,about 32' tall,and will have 8 parking spaces provided.
The site is located at 9799 N.Michigan Road. The site is currently zoned S-1/Residential with a proposed
change to the B-3 zone,and is within the US 421 Overlay. Filed by Elliot Smith of Baldwin Capital Partners.
Petitioner: Elliot Smith:
• We are local franchisees with Take 5. There are none currently in the Indianapolis area.
• Drive-thru oil change concept. Customers stay in their car during the oil change. The average bay time for an oil
change is 9 minutes.
• Presented a site plan
• It's the last residentially zoned parcel that will be rezoned to business/commercial use
• The access drive is not off of Michigan Road. There will be an access drive off of 98th Street.
• We are working with the Urban Forester to preserve as many trees as possible and plant new trees where needed
• Presented elevations,the building will consist of 95%brick
• Next week we will be heard in front of the BZA for a Use Variance
• We will have one brick monument ground sign on the corner on Michigan and 98th Street
• We are working on a photometric plan and will submit one that is compliant
• We will update our trash enclosure to be more in line with the design of the building
Public Comments:
Javid Rastegar,3741 W 98th St.: My home is one lot east of the proposed site. The neighborhood to the east uses
Commerce Drive to access Michigan Road. I have concerns with the lot size and the traffic. 98th street doesn't have a
Ishoulder. 90%of the houses in this area are on well water. We have septic and well water. If the oil contaminates the
soil,this is a concern. I am for this area to be developed,but not for an oil change service. I don't think enough public
notice was given out to the neighborhood. The HOAs should have been included.
Rebuttal to Public Comments: Elliot Smith:
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• The size of the lot is smaller than 3 acres,but it was grandfathered in
• For traffic flow,we only do 35-50 cars a day. A restaurant or car wash business will see 150 or more cars a day.
• We capture all the oil. There are tubes that transfer the oil directly into a container that is picked up by a truck
and taken off site to be recycled.
• This is different than your full service auto-shop. We don't use jacks. There's hardly any noise. We close at 8
PM.
• We complied with the instructions given to us for the public notice. Rachel: The requirement is to notify two
properties deep or 660' away from the subject property. They received an official properties owners list from the
Hamilton County Surveyor's office,which they submitted to us. They fulfilled the public notice requirements.
Department Report: Rachel Keesling
• This is a very small site compared to other commercial sites
• This parcel is part of the North Augusta subdivision that was platted in 1949
• The Ordinance states if you are platted prior to a certain date,you are exempted from the 3 acre requirement
• This is the last residentially zoned property that directly borders US 421
• The variances that will go before the BZA are front yard stacking and building size
• The customer will stay in their car during the oil change and that's why they don't need a lot space
• They will be preserving 10 trees on the south and east border
• They will construct the building entirely of brick which complies with the 421 Overlay
• The site plan meets the B-3 and 421 Overlay zoning requirements for setbacks,height, and lot coverage
• There are platted setback requirements part of the North August subdivision
• They submitted a replat request to Staff. We are supportive of this request.
• There will be an access drive from 98th street. No cuts are being proposed on Michigan Road
• They will provide sidewalk connectivity and bicycle parking
• We have a few outstanding items such as the lighting, landscaping,and signage plans.
• We recommend this goes to the Commercial Committee on August 6 with them having final voting authority
Committee Comments:
Nick: I have concerns with the drainage. The water-table in this area is very high. The detention pond that you will be
using holds a lot of water. I owned this pond at one point,and it was like a swamp. Elliot Smith: We are currently
working with the Engineering Department on the drainage.
Brad: Is there any internal or up-lighting proposed on the monument sign? Elliot Smith: There's a light facing the sign
to show the words and logo. Rachel: They are allowed lighting on the sign. A sign permit is needed.
Josh: I would like a thorough explanation of your oil containment policies,and the State laws involved. Bring this info
to the Commercial Committee.
A Motion by Sue and seconded by Josh to forward Docket Nos. 19050026 Z and 19050027 DP/ADLS to the August
6 Commercial Committee with final voting authority.
Motion passes 7-0, absent Campbell,Adams
12. Docket No. 19050030 PP Amend:Plum Creek Farms Common Areas
The applicant seeks primary plat amendment to remove commitments on their common areas. The original
primary plat was approved with public access allowed to the common areas of the subdivision,but the
neighborhood would like to remove that requirement to only allow Plum Creek Farm resident access. The site is
located northeast of Hazel Dell Pkwy and 126th St on 84.88 acres. The site is currently zoned S-1/Residential.
Filed by William Ranek,HOA President on behalf of the Plum Creek Farms HOA.
Petitioner: William Ranek:
• Presented an aerial photo
• We are proposing to remove the requirement that our common areas remain open and accessible to the general
public for use. We would like to restrict that use to residents only.
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