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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes COM 11-07-19 {o�cam.\ Cityof C 0 MA Carmel Plan Commission COMMERCIAL COMMITTEE Thursday, November 7, 2019 Meeting Location: Carmel City Hall Caucus Rooms,2"d Floor, 1 Civic Square,Cannel,IN 46032 Members Present: Alan Potasnik(Committee Chairman),Joshua Kirsh,John Adams,&Laura Campbell Staff Present: Rachel Keesling(Planning Administrator),Mike Hollibaugh(Director),&Nathan Chavez(Recording Secretary) Legal Counsel: John Molitor Time of Meeting: 6:01 PM The Commercial Committee met to consider the following items: Alan Potasnik: Does the Department of Community Services(Staff)want to announce changes to the Agenda? Rachel Keesling: Item#2,Docket#19080009 DP/ADLS: Schafer Powder Coating—Building Expansion, has been tabled to December 3,2019. They wanted more time to work on their Thoroughfare Plan compliance. 1. Docket No. 19070003 DP/ADLS: Valvoline Instant Oil Change—US 421 The applicant seeks site plan and design approval for a new 2,077 sq. ft. oil change facility and 2 variances.The site is 0.98 acres in size. It is located at 9835 Michigan Road and is Lot IA of the North Augusta subdivision.It is zoned B-3 and is within the US 421 Michigan Road Overlay Zone.Filed by Richard Gallegos,III of Valvoline,LLC. Petitioners: Chris Duley(Valvoline), Pat Boyle(Midland Atlantic Properties)&Brian Cross(Civil Site Group, Inc.) Brian Cross: • We were at the October 1st Commercial Committee(Committee)meeting and presented the petition. • Two variances for vehicle staking in the front yard and a small gross floor area(19070017-18 V)were applied for and approved at the September 23`d Board of Zoning Appeals(BZA)meeting. • The petition is a three bay oil change facility just north of 98th St. It sits between the existing Prime Car Wash and Burger King. The site itself is just under one acre.The eastern portion of the site abuts Walnut Creek Dr.,a private drive,but public access easement. It was granted to the City of Carmel a few years back. • This particular lot contains a"no build"line bisecting the site and is indicated by a dash line on the site plan.It is only for structures. • The property is zoned B3/Business,which permits an oil change/automobile use facility. We have worked with Staff and the Carmel Engineering Department(Engineering)on the location of the driveway tying into Walnut Creek Dr., staking along the north side,and increasing landscaping on the north property line and internal landscape islands.There is an existing curb cut along N. Michigan Rd.,which is controlled by INDOT,and will extend into the site. It is a one-way right turn only. • Vehicles will enter the building from the north to receive service.Most of the time patrons will stay in their vehicles,unless tire service or brake service is required. Chris Duley: We don't do brakes. Brian Cross: There is a waiting area with customer restroom area in the building. • We submitted the landscape plan(page 11 of Packet for PC 09-17-19).The Urban Forester has worked with us to change certain plant and tree species.This has been approved. Commercial Committee Minutes 10-01-19 1 • Some minor outstanding engineering items remain. We resubmitted this week. • We brought a material and color board sample(titled Building Material 1 0-01-09).The building is primarily masonry and does have a dimensional shingle roof. The tower element is along N. Michigan Rd.,which gives us more presence. The building is brought forward towards N. Michigan Rd. and does comply with the US 421 —Michigan Road Overlay. • Signage will be limited to the west elevation with the Valvoline emblem in the blocked out brick area,as well as,the east elevation. • Two different brick tones along with different cornice and water table items around the perimeter of the building are used.Awnings are steel and are painted.The awning colors are on the color board sample. One item was to match the gutters with the HVAC and/or venting equipment or pipes protruding from the roof,which will all be matching paint. • The south elevation is the exit for the vehicles. • The lighting plan(pages 22-26)meets the lighting foot-candle requirements along the edge of the property. We are electing to use LED light fixtures. • There is no ground sign proposed,just the wall signs on the west and east elevations. • Chris Duley: I am the manager of preconstruction for Valvoline. We are excited to come to Cannel and have worked closely with Staff on this project. We have addressed every question that has been raised. Department Report: Rachel Keesling: • The petitioner went over everything very well. • There are no outstanding issues or concerns.The look and design is very nice.They have made all the changes and suggestions Staff has requested. • Signage, landscaping, lighting,pedestrian connectivity,bicycle parking,and number of regular parking all meets the requirements. • Staff recommends approval tonight. Committee Comments: Laura Campbell: • I raised questions and concerns to City Council about having two oil change facilities in the area and received various feedback. They believe it is a good use for the area. Laura motions to approve Docket#19070003,Joshua seconds,4-0. 2. TABLED TO DEC.3-Docket No. 19080009 DP/ADLS: Schafer Powder Coating—Building Expansion th- LLC. 3. Docket No. 19100006 ADLS Amend: Cottage Animal Clinic-Addition The applicant seeks site plan and design approval for a 391 sq. ft. building addition to the existing building (1,139 sq.ft.).The site is 0.32 acres in size. It is located at 420 N. Range Line Rd.It is zoned B-5 and is within the Old Town Overlay,Historical Range Line Sub-Area. Filed by William Brosius of William Gordon Group, Inc. Petitioner: William Brosius(William Gordon Group,Inc.): • This is a veterinarian clinic that has been here for around five or six years. It is a residential structure that has been converted for commercial purposes. • It is a simple project.A 390 sq. ft.addition on the rear of the property is proposed. • We are now adding it to the rear when originally the owner wanted to add to the front porch.This is a historically sensitive item and the original proposal was not permitted.There is an existing porch on the rear that is being replaced with the one-story addition with a shed roof. It juts 11.5' out from the building. • The exterior finishes will be matched with the building. It is vinyl siding with white trim. There is a mixture of wood,aluminum,and vinyl depending on the area. Commercial Committee Minutes 10-01-19 2 • There is a side entrance with a little stoop and covered bracketed support roof. • Only one can light is under the roof that is being added. • We are doing virtually nothing on the site.All the utilities are existing and will remain within the existing curbs. • Signage is remaining the same. • Landscaping has been approved after a few changes were suggested by the Urban Forester. Most landscaping remains the same,except new plantings around the new addition. • A trash enclosure is included.There are just three trash cans.A picture can be found on page six of the Submitted Packet. It is basically just a cedar fence painted white.It will be 60"tall and cover the trash cans without being too obtrusive.The railings on page six will used for the new stoop. Department Report: Rachel Keesling: • The petitioner touched on everything.The owner originally did want to fill in the wrap around porch.The rear addition,we can approve. It fits with the character of the existing building. It is a Character Building per the Unified Development Ordinance(UDO)and it is important that any additions do match the design of the original building.This addition could look as if it has always been there. • No landscaping, sidewalks,or parking will be altered.The petitioner is simply filling in a grassy area with the addition.They are not at risk of exceeding lot coverage. Everything meets the UDO requirements. • Staff recommends approval. Committee Comments: Joshua Kirsh: • Is this a final voting authority?Rachel Keesling: Yes. Joshua motions to approve Docket#19100006. John Adams: • I have one question. Will the addition have an entrance on the west side?William Brosius: The north side.This is the employee entrance only.The customers will enter from the front.John Adams: There is a sidewalk extension?William Brosius: Yes, it is only 7' long from the parking lot to the entrance. Rachel Keesling: The walk for the customers is on the south side of the property.John Adams: That will be marked for the customers?William Brosius: I think so.Joshua Kirsh: I think it is currently marked right now. William Brosius: There is a sign hanging inside the door that says"Employees Only." John seconds,4-0. 4. Docket No. 19050014 DP/ADLS: Avid Hotel 5. Docket No. 19050015 V: ZO Chapter 5.07(D)(3)—Meridian Corridor Architectural Standards, Massing requiring two principal buildings on a lot with over 300' in width,requesting one principal building The applicant seeks site plan and design approval for a new hotel(90 rooms)and mixed use building(up to 7 first floor tenants)on 1.23 acres.The building will be 51,518 sq.ft.,4 stories/55' tall,and will have 97+ parking spaces provided(shared parking with CMC Office).The site is located at about approximately 13300 Illinois Street(NW corner of Main Street and US 31).The site is zoned MC/Meridian Corridor and is not within any overlay zone. Filed by Jim Shinaver and Jon Dobosiewicz of Nelson&Frankenberger on behalf of Jim Jacob of Saamrajya,LLC. Petitioners: Jim Shinaver&Jon Dobosiewicz of(Nelson&Frankenberger)and Jimchacko Jacob& Sam Patel (Saamrajya,LLC) Jon Dobosiewicz: • This petition was last in front of the Plan Commission(Commission)on July 16,2019. Subsequent to that the project appeared in front of the BZA on July 22,2019 for a Use Variance request(19050016 UV)to allow a certain component of the hotel use on the first floor.A hotel is a permitted use,by right,but only on the second floor and above. We asked the BZA for consideration to allow the lobby and laundry Commercial Committee Minutes 10-01-19 3 facilities to be located on the first floor. The request was denied and we took a few months to readjust. The petitioner decided to move forward with the use on the second floor and above. • A couple of items on your agenda are different from the actual proposal.The agenda lists the building height as 155', it is approximately 55' in height. Previously there was 102 rooms and is now reduced down to 90 rooms. Square footage,as revised, is 51,518. • A couple of the items that came up at the Commission that we were asked to address with regard to the building: On page 11 and 12 of the Submitted Packet are the building renderings.Because of printer calibration or otherwise,you can see the red appears to be very vibrant. • Jon presented a brick sample(Building Materials 11-07-19). • The red is more of a muted brick(page 3 of Building Materials 11-07-19).(Page 2 of Building Materials 11-07-19)is the darker of the two shades. Tan brick represents the lighter of the two shades(page 1 of Building Materials 11-07-19). Lastly,the there is a small blue band under the awning. That color is similar to the light blue sticky note attached to the light brick sample(page 1 of Building Materials 11- 07-19). • The lobby and common services of the hotel are located in the space behind the second floor windows (page 11 of the Submitted Packet). If one enters the building from there they are taken to a vestibule and a stairway to the right will lead one to a bank of elevators and then there is a second bank of elevators and stairs further removed from the entrance.There is an elevator that goes to the second floor and a second elevator that goes from the first to fourth floor. Everything else, identified as commercial, is further removed to the right are all other uses that will occupy the first floor space with direct access to the outside from the north. • Other exhibits that were requested can be found under tab 5 (page 14 of Submitted Packet).This image is taken from someone standing on the US 31 and W. Main St. interchange.This is someone standing on the sidewalk overlooking the retention pond.This is not from a vehicle because a driver would have to look behind their right shoulder. • Page 15 is traveling northbound on Illinois St. • Page 16 is looking due east into the property from the entrance along Illinois St.There is a neighborhood entrance on the west side of Illinois St.which lines up with the development entrance.You can see the proposed building behind a single story office building. • Page 17 is further north on Illinois St.traveling southbound.The existing CMC building is brown and the proposed building is to the right. It is planned and approved for a pad and future building in the foreground. • Under tab 6(page 18)are the updated building elevations. • Tab 7(page 21)contains the floor plans. • Tab 8(page 26)provides the landscaping plan. One outstanding issue was identified in the Department Report for landscaping. This regards tree protection fencing detail. It is not that the fencing isn't specified, it is that there is not a detail on the landscape plan.This is an item we confirmed with Staff that can be addressed between now and the Commission meeting or even after. • There were two other outstanding comments.If you turn to tab 9(page 29).This is the lighting plan. We had not provided that previously. • Jon passed around the light fixture specifications(titled Lighting Fixtures/Specs). • The lighting fixtures will match across the parking lot. • Lastly,we needed Engineering approval. We have confirmed that this is regards to specification standards. It is not for site layout or plan. • We are requesting positive approval to the Commission meeting of November 19,2019. Department Report: Rachel Keesling: • Page 10 of the July 7,2019 Commission Packet(Packet PC 07-16-19)shows what the building looked like before the Use Variance request was denied. • The northwest corner of the proposed building has been brought up and now has more of a presence,with larger windows.This breaks up the facade and looks better than the previous proposal with the addition of the lights and windows. • The petitioners have addressed all of the concerns with the exception of the three outstanding items listed in the Department Report. The petitioner reviewed these. I wanted to know about building access lighting. Commercial Committee Minutes 10-01-19 4 It looks like there are can lights underneath the second story awning. Some of the drawings had red access lights at the top of the red tower and I had some additional questions.The overall lighting plan meets the foot-candle requirements. • This is a pad ready site in the overall CMC development.Another building can be built across the parking lot. • Staff wanted to see what color the bricks would be because the renderings were not as representative as they could be.Having the samples here helps us understand the brick won't be as bright as depicted. • The petitioners also provided views from the adjacent roads so Staff could better understand the building as one drives by. It appears we won't be seeing very much from Illinois St. It is setback and there are plenty of trees in the right-of-way and along the street and entrance.Jon Dobosiewicz: There are three intervening buildings,two offices at the entrance and the church,which is further removed from the south,with an area where the church plans to extend to the north of the existing building. • With the Use Variance denied they had to move everything to the second story. It took some time for the petitioners to decide how the project could proceed. Commercial tenants will be present on the first floor. The building will be mixed-use,which is what the UDO requires. • This project now meets the requirements for the MC/Meridian Corridor zoning. • Staff recommends this is sent to Commission with favorable recommendation subject to the three outstanding comments being worked out. Committee Comments: Laura Campbell: • Why was the Use Variance not approved?The hotel is an approved use,but this is not a walkable area for commercial uses on the first floor.This is set so far back.Jon Dobosiewicz: I can speak on that.Not to speak for the BZA,Alan Potasnik sits on the BZA and he may be able to elaborate also.There was remonstrance from surrounding property owners and generally they did not want the hotel use on the property. It was not whether or not it was on the first floor or second floor only and above. I believe that may have contributed to the decision that was made by the BZA. Laura Campbell: To me it seems like an odd location to have a mixed-use building. What type of commercial uses do you see for the first floor?Jimchacko Jacob: Originally we wanted just a hotel and not mixed-use. Because it did not work out we are searching for accountant offices,medical offices,and more service related businesses compared to sales. Like you said there will not be much foot traffic. Laura Campbell: You don't necessarily anticipate a restaurant?Jimchacko Jacob: Unless something arises that meshes well. Sam Patel: The corner section would be a great fit for a restaurant use,which faces the water. • I am glad you explained the color difference. It seemed really bright.The"AVID"name on the sign; is the color the brick red or bright red on the renderings?Jimchacko Jacob: It is more of the brighter red. Sam Patel: It is a brand color. Alan Potasnik: • Under tab 5,when you look at the foot print of the hotel(page 14),that is the east side?Jon Dobosiewicz: This faces the southbound ramp off US 31.You will never see this view if you are on US 31.Alan Potasnik: My concern is that you would see this view from US 31,but you are saying you won't?Jon Dobosiewicz: Because the ramp sits higher one is unable to view the front end of the office buildings because of the retaining wall.Alan Potasnik: It is not a pretty view and does not necessarily reflect Carmel,but if you can't see it then it doesn't make a difference. • What is the red line on the south elevation?Jon Dobosiewicz: That is a red access band. It will be the brick red color.Alan Potasnik: It is not a light?Jon Dobosiewicz: Yes. • In the sign,the word"AVID"is not the same color as the brick?Jon Dobosiewicz:No.Alan Potasnik: The sign will be lit?Jon Dobosiewicz: It will be internally illuminated letters. • You mentioned that you can access the building on the first floor. Will a person staying there have to use the stairs to access the second floor?Jon Dobosiewicz:No,there are two different elevators; one as you enter the vestibule. There is a stairwell immediately to the right and an elevator that accesses the second floor. If one proceeds down the hallway,there is an elevator that accesses all four levels of the building. If you are a quest at the hotel you do not have to go through lobby to access the rest of the rooms.Alan Potasnik: But if you are coming off the second floor,there is no escalator that is a stairway?Jon Commercial Committee Minutes 10-01-19 5 Dobosiewicz: You walk into the vestibule and there is a stairway,as well as an elevator that only goes to the second floor.There is another set of elevators that will access all the floors. • Because of the configuration change the number of rooms has changed from 102 to 90?What were the other changes?Sam Patel: It was originally 120+.Rachel Keesling: The height is 55' not 155'. That was a typo. The revised square footage is 51,518. John motions to forward Docket#19050014&#19050015 to Plan Commission with positive recommendation,Laura seconds,3-0,Absent Kirsh. 6. Docket No. 19090002 ADLS Amend: Firestone—Exterior Color Change The applicant seeks approval to paint the entire building two shades of grey and update signage. The site is located at 1314 S. Range Line Rd. It is zoned B-1Business and is within the Range Line Road overlay zone. Filed by Chris Nagy of BFRC,on behalf of the owner. Petitioner: Brock Long(Firestone): • I am the area manager for Firestone representing Bridgestone. • I was told the brick was painted when it was not supposed to be. Currently the paint is being removed. We are hoping to have that done by the end of next week or the week after based on the weather.Alan Potasnik: So the paint is being removed?Brock Long: Yes.Alan Potasnik: What will it be replaced with?Brock Long: The original brick.John Adams: How are you removing the paint?Brock Long: They are using a chemical on the paint and then power washing. I have a photo of the removal(titled Paint Removal Photo 10-07-19). Department Report: Nathan Chavez: • I spoke with Chris Nagy at Bridgestone and he informed me the brick would be removed and I would be updated when completed. I just found this out earlier this week and the reason this item is still on the agenda is because the item cannot be removed from Committee unless fully withdrawn. • Since the paint is being removed Staff's issue is resolved. • Brock Long: It is a little bit of a long process unfortunately. Laura Campbell: How long does it take? Brock Long: They started on Tuesday and have only finished part of the rear facade. Committee Comments: Alan Potasnik: • This will have no effect on signage or outside storage?Rachel Keesling: If the brick is removed then we can proceed with Nathan's approval.Nathan Chavez: One sign is proposed,which fits within the Spandrel Panel and two incidental signs,which are 3 sq. ft.or less,are being refaced.The light and dark grey on the upper fascia will remain,which Staff is in support of. • Nathan Chavez: Staff amends their recommendation for Committee to approve the item tonight.John Adams: What are we approving again?Nathan Chavez: We are approving a change in the sign, painting of the upper fascia to light and dark grey,and removal of the paint from the brick. John motions to approve#19090002 with the condition that the paint is removed from the brick,Laura seconds,3-0,absent Kirsh. 7. Docket No. 19100009 ADLS Amend: Ritz Charles-Renovations The applicant seeks site plan and design approval for exterior renovations including but not limited to modified entry into the site,new sidewalks, landscaping islands, outdoor gathering areas,drop off areas,etc. The site is 7.95 acres in size. It is located at 12156 N. Meridian Street. It is zoned MC and is not located within any overlay zone. Filed by Corrie Meyer of Innovative Planning, LLC, on behalf of Bill Nicholls with the Ritz Charles. Petitioners: Corrie Meyer(Innovative Planning, LLC)&Bill Nicholls(Ritz Charles) Corrie Meyer: • We are updating the property, including increasing the Ritz Charles' presence on Illinois St.The primary focus is to enhance the entrance experience,while keeping up with building types.Additionally,we wanted to bring more sunlight into the building. Commercial Committee Minutes 10-01-19 6 • The scope of work includes landscaping,creating a drive aisle drop off area on the west side of the building with pavers, similar to what exists outside Anthony's Chophouse.On page 3 of the Submitted Packet is a rendering of the drop off area.As you drive up to the drop off area there will be a new asphalt 111 drive with landscape islands. • We plan on screening the loading dock area. It will become its primary function;a loading docket only. • Just to the east we will create a brand new courtyard. • Currently, one is able to drive all the way through the property. This project will close the south drive and create a new courtyard experience on the south,which will open up to a brand new ballroom.This will no longer be a thru drive,but a lawn. Currently paving stepping stones leads people around the chapel to the reception area.A new walk will connect those two spaces. • The primary entrance is still the two Illinois St.entrances. We want to encourage the drivers to turn and drop off at the northwest corner of the building.As they come around we want them to be forced to turn around. We are proposing moving the existing entrance along Meridian St.be moved south. • We are not making any improvements to Meridian St. • The new Lauth hotel is to the north.Lauth will be installing a new walk all the way down. Staff asked us to include a walk across the landscape island.This addition has been made and we are happy to add sidewalks in the landscape islands to connect the building to the Illinois St. sidewalks. There are existing sidewalks in those landscape islands. We will meet the existing width on those sidewalks. • We are removing the drive aisle just to the south of the building. • Another courtyard is proposed on the northeast corner of the building. It will have access to another ballroom. Some parking will be lost as a result.The primary walk is to the side entrance or you can be dropped off at the front entrance. • A nice landscape hedge will surround the north courtyard, so users will not see the drives.Just to the east is the new drop-off area. String lights will be present,as well as airy trees.The courtyard will include seating,cocktail tables, or however the end-users plan to utilize the space. • The south courtyard will include art elements,especially a light feature meant for Instagram moments. These courtyards accomplish this. • We will be seeking a sign variance for a floating letter signs.This is near the main drop off facing west. • Page 11 and 12 of the Submitted Packet are precedence pictures we drew inspiration from.The proposed light fixture is similar to the image titled South Courtyard Light Art.The light fixtures will be shorter and won't have the large structure on the top. • The courtyards will have a combination of sidewalk and crush stone to create a soft space. • The type of screen wall we wish to create is in the image titled Screen Wall(page 11 of the Submitted packet). • We will introduce mixed materials on the site instead of all brick and asphalt. • The images titled Ballroom Window Walls(page 12)is our primary precedent photo for the ball rooms. Natural light will be further used in these spaces. Folding doors can be utilized to further increase the lighting while creating an indoor-outdoor space. • Another key element is that the brick will be painted a lime wash finish to brighten and soften it up.The precedent image titled Exterior Paint is the color we are aiming for.Additional landscaping will be added to balance all the materials on site. • Staff did ask for a lighting photometric plan.We shared with Staff the light rings and not the foot-candles. We will turn over a new lighting plan to show that we are not over the property line. • Staff also asked about the loss of parking.Currently the property has adequate parking over what is required. 340 spaces are required. We are losing,with the new courtyard,32 spaces.Because the landscape islands we are losing an additional 16 spaces. With those loses we are still providing 352 spaces.The Ritz Charles has expressed many times that they are not concerned with the loss of parking. Department Report: Rachel Keesling: • The petitioner touched on the major changes.The Committee recently approved the Lauth hotel and office building to the north(19060018 DP)and discussed shared parking between the two developments. I was a little concerned with parking,but am excited about the changes and the experience for users. I spoke with the petitioner about valet parking as an option,which is why it is mentioned in the Department Report. We spoke the possibility of valet parking in the loading area.The petitioner will look at this as Commercial Committee Minutes 10-01-19 7 they need to. The idea being out there makes me feel better.There is still enough parking for their required usage. Are you all still comfortable with the parking even with the parking agreements?Bill Nicholls: Yes. I'm sure several people at this meeting have visited during the ten peak days a year at the Ritz Charles. Yes people were required to walk quite a distance to reach the building,but out of the 365 days over the last 30 years this is not that much. Over the past two months the parking lot has been at its fullest because the Hyatt Place hotel has asked to use our parking for their construction workers.The north flank has been used by IU Health during their construction of the new cancer center.Typically these flanks sit fallow. We are confident that even with the Lauth buildings we will still be in good shape. • Outstanding items I included in which the petitioner provided to me via email are the photometric plan. I am not worried about this and the foot-candles should be down to 0.3 at the property line. The Urban Forester approval is good to go except for one tree. I asked for before and after images of the lime washing. We saw this tonight. I asked for a larger site plan showing the sidewalk connections. I asked for one last connecting piece along from Illinois St. sidewalk to the landscape islands. • I like how the sign is going to be redone along the Illinois St. entrance.The ballrooms are unique. The light exhibit is artwork and is permitted. • The signage does need a variance and will need to go through the BZA. It's unique and is tastefully done, especially with evergreen trees in the background. • Staff is in support of the project. I originally recommended the petition be continued to the next Committee meeting because of the number of outstanding items. Since all the items have been provided to Staff,we are amending our recommendation to approval pending the updated site plan with new sidewalk connections,photometric plan,and Urban Forester approval. Committee Comments: Laura Campbell: • I am excited for this petition.This will freshen up the Illinois St.view. • The outdoor pavilion,will there be any covered connection?Bill Nicholls:No. We are not really modifying it in any way. In a different phase of this project we may end up doing so because there is a demand for ceremony space. • For the courtyards,what size crowd could it accommodate?Bill Nicholls: We have designed them so that we end up with three private events at the same time.One wedding may use the wedding chapel to the garden pavilion.Then a second wedding will use the south courtyard with rooms A, B,and C. Room E will be used with the north courtyard for a third wedding. Room D would sit fallow. Everyone will feel as if they have their own area. We are also excited about turning the back door into a front door. • I am glad you talked about the parking spaces. That is always a concern. Even with all the events are you confident?Bill Nicholls: Yes.The goal is to grow the business to the point where more parking is required. Alan Potasnik: • Since you all are committed to sharing parking,how would a user for the new Lauth building access that? Corrie Meyer: We did not include the whole Lauth site plan. A drive is planned and will extend north into their property. We have accommodated for that in the parking space counts. • Can you please go over the loading dock area?Will the trucks remain there?Corrie Meyer: The trucks are visible today. We are adding a screen wall across the west side of the loading area.As you enter you will not see the loading area and trucks.There is adequate space for the truck to navigate and turn around. The dumpster will also be behind the screen wall. • The south dining room area,next to the south drive aisle,will be knocked out?Corrie Meyer: All the building edges will remain the same. We are punching in windows on that south elevation.Alan Potasnik: That will remain a ball room?Corrie Meyer: Yes.Bill Nicholls: We are trying to make it all glass. Corrie Meyer: The south façade will be all windows all the way across.The drive aisle will become a courtyard and is about the same size as the south ball room.Alan Potasnik: You won't be able to drive around the building at all. Corrie Meyer: From the south no,but from the north yes.Bill Nicholls: Because of the configuration of the thoroughfares, I am paranoid about drivers on the south drive aisle as a motor speedway. We installed speed bumps for our workers sake. Laura Campbell: I think it does improve the flow.Alan Potasnik: This will make a huge difference. • The north drive aisle will remain?Corrie Meyer: We are shifting it to the south.Alan Potasnik: Commercial Committee Minutes 10-01-19 8 Individuals won't be able to access from the north?Corrie Meyer: That entrance will remain.Bill Nicholls: We are hoping to have a separate entrance for a private event. The façade adjacent to the north courtyard will be replaced with window,folding door,and the limestone wash. • Having those hotels on either side are going to be an asset for you. Bill Nicholls: The corporate side of the Cannel base will be an interesting part of the future. We are excited. Laura motions to approve Docket#19100009 with the conditions of Urban Forester approval,updated photometric plan,and updated sidewalk connection is submitted to Staff,John seconds,3-0,absent Kirsh. 8. Docket No. 19100007 ADLS Amend: Penske Honda&Pre-owned buildings—Exterior Renovations The applicant seeks site plan and design approval for exterior renovations to the Penske Honda building and the Pre-owned building. Renovations include new signage and exterior façade materials. Combined,the sites are 11.25 acres in size.The buildings are located at 4140 E.96th Street and 4100 E.96th Street.The sites are zoned B-3 and are not located within any overlay zone. Filed by Matthew Hoener of TGD Architects on behalf of the owner. Petitioners: Matthew Hoener(TGD Architects): • We are doing required updates to the building,required by Honda corporate.The biggest change is the cylinder where the Honda logo is in the center of the 4140 E. 96th St,building. Currently,the cylinder stops and is open below.The new design is a full cylinder with open windows where you can walk under. The current site has 40' of canopy before one reaches the doors. • We are also proposing a new glass vestibule underneath the existing canopy to provide a weather break before one walks into the showroom. • There is an accent tile band that goes along the perimeter of the wall and roof line. This is being replaced with ACM metal panels.The blue is the same color,but is being updated. • All the EIFS will be fixed,repaired,and repainted. • The white metal coping will be replaced with silver metal coping. • The exterior pillars will have a new block base to match the Honda Express Service building,the old Harley Davidson building,we renovated last year(Docket#18020001 ADLS Amend). Some of those details will be used on this proposal, like the grey block base. • The wave will stay and will be refreshed with metal panels.New signage is proposed and we will be seen by the BZA on November 25th,2019(Docket#19100011 V). • For the pre-owned building,(4100 E. 96th St.)other than signage,a blue band is being added across the building,a block base on the columns is proposed,and EIFS will be repainted. • The EIFS is off yellow and will be white to match the Honda Express Service building. • The Express building renovation was completed at the beginning of this year. • Rachel Keesling: What happened to the service sign?Matthew Hoener: It was removed.All service signs were removed because all service is now at the Express building.Any quick service will be there. Any long-term service will take place at the Sales building(4140 E.96th St.). In the rear is long-term service for engine,transmission,or anything of that type of repair. • Behind the pre-owned building is the body/collision shop. • The old service area is now for new car delivery. Department Report: Rachel Keesling: • I have been to this site before to test drive a car.The building is set back.There is an awning and steps up to the building. Matthew Hoener: It is about 3' from grade to the sales floor. We will be redoing the steps. • The changes they are making are in line with what exists in the area,but with a fresh look.The building will be white to match the Express Service building.That is a positive. • The new cylinder element is more modern and gives the building a fresh look. • Signage has to be seen by the BZA.By separating them it becomes two signs."Penske Honda"is one sign and by separating them they are two separate signs.This becomes a total of three signs. • The changes for the pre-owned building changes are simple and a refresh. Commercial Committee Minutes 10-01-19 9 • Staff recommends approval. Committee Comments: John Adams: • Signage will be handled separately?Rachel Keesling: Yes. It has to be seen by the BZA and then the Sign Administrator will issue sign permits. 111 Alan motions to approve Docket#19100007,Laura seconds,3-0,absent Kirsh. Meeting adjourned at 7:35 PM. Nathan F. Chavez Recording Secretary Alan Po ik Committee Chairman Commercial Committee Minutes 10-01-19 10