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HomeMy WebLinkAboutLetter #07 Steve & Rosanne Burge - third submission c\`� o� CggMF Cit of Carmel �NDIAtip CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION MARCH 15, 20161 MEETING MINUTES Revised Members Present: Bruce Kimball, John Adams, Dennis Lockwood, Michael Casati, Alan Potasnik, Brad Grabow, Joshua Kirsh, Susan W estermeier, Nick Kestner, Tim Moehl, Tom Kegley Staff Present: Rachel Keesling, Adrienne Keeling, Lisa Motz, Mike Hollibaugh, John Molitor D. Declaration of Quorum, Elections & Appointments - We had a quorum with 10 members at the start of the meeting. E. Approval of Minutes - Sue motioned to approve, Joshua seconded, motion passed. Communications, Bills, Expenditures, & Legal Counsel Report - John Molitor - House Bill 1025 passed. It creates an alternative procedure for rezonings. I recommend that Carmel adopt this. It allows the Council to reduce the number of days that it has to act on a rezone proposal from 90 days to 30 days or fewer. This is optional to adopt. House Bill 1386 passed also. It allows the Alcohol and Tobacco Commission to issue for additional liquor permits in Carmel. It allows the Council to impose commitments on those new permits which are similar to zoning commitments. This does not create a role for the Plan Commission. 1. Update on City Council Ordinance Z-610-16 (Plan Commission Docket No. 15110017 OA: C-2/Old Town District Text Amendment.) Adrienne Keeling • Last week on March 7d' the City Council approved an amended version of the C-2 Zoning District (Chapter 20F of the Carmel Zoning Ordinance) and has sent it back to Plan Commission. You have 45 days to act on the following amendments. • Amendment #1 - lg story is IOft and the minimum height of 8ft at the 2nd and P stories. Council clarified that it should be the Yd and higher stories. • Amendment #2 - Council added a perimeter buffer yard requirement for new developments adjacent to single family residential. This would only apply to where a rear or side lot line of a new development would be adjacent to or abutting a rear or side lot line of a detached residence. It would extend the entire length of the lot line. The width of the buffer yard would be a 1-1 ratio to the building height up to 3511. The minimum planting standard would be buffer yard C which is 7 shade or evergreen trees, 3 ornamental trees and 25 shrubs per 100 linear feet of that property line. • Amendment #3 - Principle buildings must be faced on all sides with brick, stone or similarly detailed precast concrete. That is a change from just front and sides to all sides. The next Section 23F 0803 would have allowed a different material on the rear. That section has been deleted. • The department is in agreeance with these amendments and request approval tonight or you have until April 21g to make a decision on these amendments. Brad Gralww • I look to the Special Studies Committee for any input. Members of the Special Studies Committee are in agreeance with these amendments. • I do have a question for clarification. For perimeter buffer yard adjacent to single family, that's both internal to the C-2 zoning (not just when a taller structure is proposed on the perimeter of that zoning district and there is a single family home adjacent and happens to be in a different zoning classification). Adrienne - it would apply against an existing neighborhood whether it was in a C-2 district or not. Alan motions to approve, Joshua seconds, motion passes. Minutes Plan Commission March 15, 2016 G. Reports, Announcements & Department Concerns — Rachel Keesling listed all the tablings and withdrawals for this evening. H. Public Hearings 1. TABLED TO APRIL 19 - The site is 'oeated 321 W. Main Street. it is euffently zoned R 2oResidential and lies within Old Town Oveflay, Y.- .\I •. 3. (2nd Public Hearing) Docket No. 15120026 DP Amend/ADLS Amend: Carmel Drive Self Storage. The applicant seeks site plan & design approval for six self -storage warehouse buildings, containing 78,457 sq. ft. on 3.82 acres. The site is located at 765 W. Carmel Dr. and is zoned M-3/Manufacturing. It is located in Carmel Science & Technology Park, Block 6, Lot 2, and was also part of Carmel Drive Executive Office Park. Filed by Adam DeHart of Keeler -Webb Associates, on behalf of Shamrock Builders, Inc. Committee Report Michael Casati • Changes were made per request of committee • Overall everyone was pleased with design • We would have preferred to see another use but this property has been undeveloped for many years. The proposed use complies with the ordinance. • 3-1 recommendation back to Plan Commission Department Report Rachel Keesling • Petitioner has done a great job designing the building to match the surroundings • We are pleased to see that someone is interested in it and is investing in the property • Vote to suspend rules tonight and approve Joshua motioned to suspend rules to vote tonight, Michael seconded, motion passes. Bruce Kimball • I was the one member who opposed it at the committee meeting • 1 would just like to see the garage doors moved to the east side so they are not visible at all from the street • I would also like a commitment that we have no U-Haul or moving trucks permanently at the facility Tom Kegley • I also had concerns about the appearance • Once I viewed the renderings I liked the project more • 1 also would like to see the garage doors not viewable from Carmel Drive • The size of the signage is not appropriate • 1 have also considered what else could be built at that location ' Minutes Plan Commission March 15, 2016 Petitioner Steve Hardin ' • Mr. Kimball and I did speak after the committee meeting and he shared his concern about rental trucks • Shamrock Builders has agreed to no rental or loaner trucks shall be stored in the parking lot on a permanent basis • We have made changes to the color of the doors and also added brick columns • The garage doors are high end and we are pleased with the look of the doors Joshua Kirsh • I like the doors. I think it breaks up the monotony of the brick. • 1 appreciate Mr. Kimball's comments • Mr. Hardin, can you please display the signage detail on the overhead for me? What is allotted, what scaled down looks like and where you ended up? Mr. Hardin displayed the document on the overhead. Josh is not sure how much more they can scale down. Rachel Keesling • They have a choice between wall sign and ground sign. The ordinance allows them to choose either or as long as they meet the sign ordinance. Brad Grabow • Can you tell me what the permitted use is for boats, RV's etc? Rachel — I will check on this. Alan Potasnik • Will outdoor storage be allowed? Rachel — no, outdoor storage is not allowed • Is there a time element on this? Steve — no and Shamrock Builders has no intent to have outdoor storage. However we don't know what will happen if they no longer own the business. Joshua Kirsh • Rachel - does anything prevent them from putting boxes outside with a sale sign on them? Rachel — they could have signage within their windows. That could be up to 30% of their windows. They could not place boxes as signs outside of their facility. John Adams • Regarding the overhead doors, will you be going with the arch? Steve — the arch element will be around the doors but the doors will be square Nick Kestner • What does the back of the building look like? They will be seen from City Center Drive? Steve — the west and south elevation will be all masonry. Sue motions to approve with condition that no rental or loaner trucks shall be stored within the exterior parking area and a copy of the Recorded Commitment be sent to DOCS, Joshua seconds, motion passes 8- 3 with Kimball, Potasnik and Kegley objecting. Minutes Plan Commission March 15, 2016 5. Docket No. 16010007 DP Amend/ADLS: Midtown Carmel, Blocks 1 & 2. , The applicant seeks site plan & design approval for a 5-story tall office building and parking garage for Allied Solutions, as well as two future commercial buildings (to have future ADLS reviews). The site is located near 320 1" Ave SW, east of the Monon Greenway, straddling future 0 Street SW. It is zoned PUD/Planned Unit Development. Filed by Andrew Greenwood of Old Town Development, LLC. Petitioner: Justin Moffitt • This project is mainly for Allied Solutions • Mr. Moffitt gave recap of the previous happenings • Proposed roundabout at 4'h and Range Line with approved bond in place. Will be working on construction plans this year. • Midtown East is everything to the right of the Monon Trail • Midtown West is the piece of ground that we are working on with Barrett and Stokley • Blocks 1-3 are immediately to the right of the Monon Trail • JC Hart has partnered with us on Block 3 for Multi -family use • Changes were made as the project progressed • We are focusing on the Allied Solutions building • Site plans for Block 1 & 2 were shown on overhead • The small building on Block 1 will be on a separate filling • Because this is part of a TIF package the Redevelopment Commission will be managing through a design build program the garage construction for Allied Headquarters. They will be managing the design building process, managing construction and funding the garage. We will be involved' in the process but the Redevelopment Commission will have the final say. • Main level footprint was shown on overhead • We are attaching from Block 1 A to Block 2 a bridge between the Allied Solutions Headquarters and the parking garage • No on street parking will be under bridge for safety reasons • Possible tenants in place for main level • Main level is smaller than levels 2-5 • Premium bike parking along with Zagster will be provided • Remaining level plans were shown on overhead • Design description of parking garage, bridge and office building was given Department Report Rachel Keesling • Many changes from the last time we saw this project • Depth of garage caused 4'h Street to move north • Roundabout caused some changes also • Bike parking is an addition • We would like to continue working with petitioner on the architecture • There are 3 distinct styles on each of the buildings but ultimately CRC finalizes the design of the garage • Signage will be done administratively through the department ' • Recommend going to Subdivision Committee Minutes Plan Commission March 15, 2016 Nick Kestner • You said there will be no parallel parking. I see a few on the plans. Justin — the only parking we removed is underneath the bridge for safety reasons and for having the column in the right of way • Parallel parking causes a traffic issue. I would like to see no parallel parking. Justin — we would prefer to have no parallel parking along 0 coming off of Range Line. Susan Westermeier • I understand that we are not approving anything on Block 2 (garage) due to CRC approving Block 2? Justin — we might need to get assistance from Mr. Molitor on this. It is my understanding that we have filed for Blocks 1 & 2 for ADLS. The Redevelopment Commission reminded us that they will be reviewed architecture and approving it. However we have a PUD process in place. We are working together. We hope to get a conceptual approval from Plan Commission. If we cannot reach consensus on a plan for the garage then maybe agree to table that so we can move forward with the Allied Building itself. I'd like approval for the package. • So they won't be doing any design build until this out of Plan Commission? Rachel — when I spoke with Come Meyer she said it would probably be this fall that the design build process would start. Justin — it will start in the month of April but finalized in the fall. It's about a six month process. Rachel — we could still make suggestions but our approval could change. Michael Casati • I look forward to more details on the metal panels that go over the street. Please bring more ' details about the panels. • Could you get us more details on the window please? Justin — yes, we will bring materials to the committee meeting Joshua Kirsh • The sky bridge/building is a good use of space • I want to make sure that we won't lose the outdoor space • I would like to see the building commitments from the PUD come through • Does Allied Solutions need two signs? I think everyone will know it's the Allied Solutions building. • I'd like to talk about what this building will do for the community Alan Potasnik • What floor do you access the sky bridge? Justin — You can access the bridge from the 2°d floor of the office building. • Is there anything else besides a walkthrough that will be in this? Justin — about 30,000 sf of office space. • We are just focusing on the Allied Building at this time correct? Justin — yes, primarily the Allied Building • Is the sky bridge considered part of the Allied Building? Justin - correct Sent to Subdivision Committee on March 29, 2016. Minutes Plan Commission March 15, 2016 Old Business ' Docket No. 15120013 DP/ADLS: One One Six Apartments, Phase 2. The applicant seeks site plan & design approval for three 3-story multi -family buildings, totaling 81 apartment units. The site is located east of College Ave., north of 116th St., near 800 E. I I6th St., with frontage on Guilford Rd. It is currently zoned R-I/Residential, pending rezone to 1160, Street Centre PUD/Planned Unit Development. Filed by Steven Hardin of Faegre Baker Daniels LLP, on behalf of Schneider Management Corp., owner, and J.C. Hart Company, Inc., applicant. Petitioner Steve Hardin • This is the 4`h time this project has been in front of the Plan Commission • Additional masonry (25%) was added per request of committee members • We also made a few updates to the architectural design: o Fiber cement panels to fiber cement lap siding o Stone under Juliet balconies was changed to fiber cement panel due to structural reasons o On side elevation of building type I the tower element that had fiber cement panels has been changed to stone o On building type 2 the panel color has changed from a contrasting color to the same color as the other side Department Report Rachel Keesting • There were a few areas on the building where we wanted to make more changes after additional review ' • The final elevations are matching up well • Recommend approval tonight Committee Report Michael Casati Storage was a big issue with the committee and was addressed Interior design changes were based upon Phase I Joshua motioned to approve, Tom seconded, motion passes 11-0. Docket No. 15110020 DP: Hyatt Place Hotel. The applicant seeks site plan approval for a 60,000 sq. ft. 4-story hotel with 90 rooms on 2.29 acres. (The ADLS petition will be .submitted later.) The site is located south of the Ritz Charles between US 31 and Illinois St. (near 11900 N. Meridian St.) and is zoned B-6 within the US 31 Overlay Zone. Filed by Ravi Patel of Sohum Development, LLC. Petitioner: Dave Coots • Mr. Coots gave recap of past meetings • Parking along frontage road was a concern and we worked out a cross parking easement agreement with the Ritz Charles that was executed and submitted to the Department and is prepared for recording • Additional screening of headlights on Illinois Street is also a concern. We worked with the Engineering Department and staff to provide additional plantings in the median for automobiles exiting the hotel. I • Request approval tonight Minutes Plan Commission March 15, 2016 Department Report Rachel Keesling ' • We brought this forward with only the DP to make sure we could get the drainage, site plan and parking worked out before the architecture of the building came through • Shared parking agreement was also agreed upon • Engineering approval of landscaping within the Right of Way was decided upon as well • We feel this is a good use for this site and very complimentary for the hospital and Ritz Charles • We look forward to receiving the ADLS package for the architecture in the future • Request approval tonight Committee Report Alan Potasnik • Parking issues were solved by the parking agreement and removal of spaces • Headlights will be screen by additional landscaping being placed in median Brad Grabow • Who is responsible for the plantings in the median? Dave — I assume the City. Rachel — I think they would work with the Urban Forester on installation, upkeep and possible replacement if necessary. • If the residents in Spring Lake Estates see that the plantings have failed do they have claim against the petitioner or City for replacement? John Molitor — if this was to be included in a written commitment from the Hotel then enforcement privileges could be granted to the residents. That is not typical but I have seen it happen on occasion. I concur with Rachel that is seems that the City will undertake the ongoing maintenance once they are in the City's ROW and not expect private land owners to come back and make changes. Tim Moehl ' • I'm still concerned about the parking. Can you give me some sort of explanation of how this shared parking is going to work? Dave Coots — we did an analysis of what the ordinance requires for various categorizations of uses for the Ritz Charles. The number of parking spaces that are subject to the easement are up to 30. Actually 22 parking spaces are being eliminated from the hotel site plan and that are being allocated on the Ritz Charles property for the hotel's required number. The analysis that was done concluded that of the 432 parking spaces at the Ritz Charles [which also has a cross parking easement with AT&T] that there were 100 more parking spaces available to the Ritz Charles than it's zoning ratio for its various uses would require. Knowing that information the ownership of the Ritz Charles and the department were willing to sign off on the allocation of up to 30 of those spaces [22 will be used] for use by the hotel if needed. Nick Kestner • Mr. Lazarra has stated that he has 2-3 events that are full each year Brad Grabow • The point was made at the first presentation of the Public Hearing that these are complimentary uses and the business owners are entering into this in partnership that the two businesses help each other. I am confident that the two owners will work together on this concern. Alan Potasnik • The bottom line is that when Mr. Lazarra came to the committee meeting he mentioned that the Ritz Charles has in excess of 90 spaces more than what is required for the ordinance for their facility. With that overage the hotel will now have what they require. ' Sue motions to approve with commitment for the Petitioner to work with Urban Forester on the selection and installation of landscaping within the median of Illinois Street adjacent to the hotel site, Joshua seconds, motion passes 10-0, 1 Absent Casati. Minutes Plan Commission March 15, 2016 7 3. Docket No. 15120009 DP/ADLS: Carmel Lakeside Retail. The applicant seeks site plan & design approval for a one-story 10,424 sq. ft. multi -tenant retail building.' The site is located at the northeast comer of Carmel Dr. and Guilford Rd., at approximately 630 W. Carmel Dr. It is zoned Atapco PUD/Planned Unit Development. Filed by Jim Shinaver of Nelson & Frankenberger, PC on behalf of Atapco Carmel, Inc. Petitioner Jon Dobosiewicz Mr. Dobosiewicz gave recap of meetings Changes were made under Tab 1 o Drive behind building was eliminated o Bollards have been added for protection of the outdoor seating area o Color palette and building materials were revised to match other buildings o Alternate layout of the building was proposed with outdoor seating on both sides of building. This request will require a variance. If variance not approved by BZA, the first layout will be built. Specific parking space called for additional attention Voted 4-0 from Special Studies Committee Request approval tonight Department Report Rachel Keesling • We request an alternative plan for parking space • We are in support of project and possible moving of building • Recommend approval ' Committee Report Alan Potasnik • Other than parking space we support this project Petitioner Jon Dobosiewicz • We feel that the space is maneuverable. We will monitor the space and are willing to make changes as needed in the future Committee Comments Joshua Kirsh • Please explain this parking space issue. Jon described the parking space and its ability to be parked with Joshua and Brad. Sue Westermeier How does the building being moved effect parking? Jon - Only building is moving not concrete pad I think we should stripe that last parking space Further discussion took place over whether to stripe the space or monitor the issue. Joshua motions to approve as is, Tim seconded, motion passes 9-1 Westermeier, 1 Absent Casati. I Minutes Plan Commission March 15, 2016 4. Docket No. 15120010 DP/ADLS: Citimark - Wagner Reese Office Building. ' The applicant seeks site plan & design approval for a three-story 61,062 sq. ft. office building. The site is located at 11939 N. Meridian St. It is zoned B-6Business and US 31 Corridor Overlay Zone. Filed by Jim Shinaver of Nelson & Frankenberger, PC for Citimark Realty Partners, LLC. Petitioner: Jon Dobosiewicz Mr. Dobosiewicz gave a recap of the previous meetings The committee concerns were the following and changes were made: o Asphalt path was widened and sign would be placed to indicate entrance to path o Pollinators planting mix was added to pond area o Bollards extend to pond o Dumpster roof has been extended to cover bicycle parking o Mechanical screen from tower element has been changed to painted metal material Lighting would be limited to areas with storefront Forwarded from committee with 4-0 approval Request approval tonight Department Report Rachel Keesling • Project was designed well from the start • Small concerns were addressed • We are in support of this project and recommend approval tonight ' Committee Report Alan Potasnik • I have no further comments Committee Comments Nick Kestner • Will you be putting up a guard rail around the east and south sides of the pond? Jon - yes, there are bollards • You have the same parking on the west side. Will you put bollards there as well? Jon - yes, if the Plan Commission feels necessary we will do it. • Will there be a sign at the main entrance on Pennsylvania also? Jon - yes, we will do that. • What is the width of the sidewalk on the north side? Jon - 5 feet concrete sidewalk • I would like to have that 6 ft wide. Alan Potasnik • That was brought up at the meeting. I understand your concern Nick. 5 ft sidewalks are required. The petitioner agreed to put in a 10 ft sidewalk and narrow it down to 5 ft at the building. So it really is a wider walk and that is what is required. • Regarding the bollards at the pond at the internal location, I don't see where it will make a difference. • What are the measurements from the parking space ends to where the start of the green area of the pond begins? Jon - approximately 20-2 2ft ' Brad Grabow • What is the curbing at the edge of those parking spaces? Jon - chair curb. Minutes Plan Commission March 15, 2016 A Bruce Kimball • I am excited about the project and have met the owners • I am still concerned about the bicycle parking at the dumpster regarding rain, snow etc. • I would like to see it wider with plexiglass and enter from the south John motions to approve, Alan seconds, motion passes 8-2 Kestner, Kimball, 1 Absent Casati. Jon Dobosiewicz stated that a sign was to be placed at the entrance per verbal agreement. Nick is acceptable to this addition. New Business Adjournment Lisa Motz Plan Co Sion Secretary /B " 6� -- -\-- Brad Grhkp4W President Minutes Plan Commission March 15, 2016 10