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Shestak, Joe
From:Hollibaugh, Mike P
Sent:Monday, July 6, 2020 2:12 PM
To:Conn, Angelina V; Shestak, Joe
Subject:fyi
Attachments:RE: Dimensions Emails
From: Hollibaugh, Mike P
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 12:30 PM
To: 'Soori Ardalan' <amardalan@sbcglobal.net>; Brainard, James C <JBrainard@carmel.in.gov>
Cc: Chavez, Nathan <nchavez@carmel.in.gov>
Subject: RE: Shahram’s Kitchen
Soori,
We have discussed this on multiple occasions. When we met initially about the sign for Shahram’s Kitchen in February,
we had a similar misunderstanding which I tried to clarify per the attached email, and in subsequent conversations.
At the time, in February, my offer to assist you with getting the sign approved, was not an approval. There is nothing
‘sudden’ here with the requirement to get a variance. We have talked about it and I followed up last Thursday with an
update and guidance. Now your email below to Angie, which is very confusing and disappointing.
As for the Kuaba Gallery sign, that is an entirely different situation. The Monon and Main PUD allows for sign area to be
calculated at 1.5 square feet per 1 linear foot of building frontage. The building where Kuaba is located has
approximately 70 feet of combined frontage on Main Street and Harlin Blvd. With more frontage, more signage is also
allowed. The building frontage for 246, site of Shahram’s, it has approximately 22 feet. There is quite a difference
between the two situations.
That a sign permit was issued for Kuoba Gallery, an upper floor tenant without a variance is a result of what may have
been a miscommunication with DOCS staff, but you were allowed the sign because the total sign area for 404 W. Main
Street allowed up to 32 square feet of additional signage. That was ultimately my mistake, but it is not a mistake I will
replicate in this instance. Especially when the ordinance for Monon & Main is so clear about signage being for first floor
tenant , and sign area being calculated at 1.5 square feet for every 1.0 feet of frontage.
A second sign at 246 W Main is not allowed without a variance. If you would like assistance with the variance
application process, I am happy to assist, but I am not willing or able to grant an exception or see a way for additional
signs at 246 other than by getting the correct approval from the BZA.
Sincerely,
Mike Hollibaugh
From: Soori Ardalan <amardalan@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 10:14 AM
To: Shestak, Joe <jshestak@carmel.in.gov>; Conn, Angelina V <Aconn@carmel.in.gov>; Hollibaugh, Mike P
<MHollibaugh@carmel.in.gov>; Brainard, James C <JBrainard@carmel.in.gov>
Subject: Shahram’s Kitchen
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**** This is an EXTERNAL email. Please exercise caution and Do Not open attachments or click links from
unknown senders or unexpected email. ****
Good morning
This morning I received email from Ks Angie Conn which confused me,
For your information these are the steps I have taken:
1)- my husband and I met Mr Mike Hollibough and asked for second sign for 246 W Main St. and asked him to grant the
sign permit the same way he did for KUABA Gallery 404 W Main st., with exception that CRC paid 100% of the sign cost
including the permit fee , but we ARE NOT ASKING FOR GRANT.AND WE WILL PAY FOR ALL THE SINGN COST INCLUDING
PERMIT,
Mike gave us The Allowed sign size which we present to Signcraft ,
Suddenly I was told I have to get VARIANCE!
This sign is at the same NONON AND MAIN COMMUNITY,
It is under same Covenant,
Just tell me why you are making it hard for me?
Why you don’t treat me The same As you did with the KUABA GALLERY?
I’m very disappointed,
Mike is doing his best getting this sign permit done,
But after reading your today email and requirements,
I SAID NO WAY,
You want me to go through torturing by public,
I am attaching Mike email which was sent me last Thursday July 02,20.
I WANT YOU TO EXPLAIN WHY YOU DIDN’T REQUIRED KUABA GALLERY ANY OF THESE REQUIREMENT?
UNFORTUNATELY IHAVE TO SAY YOU HAVE DOUBLE STANDARD.
I’m sad and disappointed.
Mike Hollibaugh Email dated 07,02,20
Soori, good afternoon.
The variance application for Shahram’s Kitchen sign is on file now but we still have a few things to handle for it to move
forward.
One is the application and review fee for the Hearing Officer Variance which is $371 . That is something we can’t avoid,
but is less than the normal amount for commercial variance at the Hearing Officer which is normally $749. The fee
needs to be paid no later than July 17.
I will be working on the public notice to the Current for you which will also have a cost to it. That is due this coming
th
Monday July 7 by noon. I will have the notice prepared and email it to you in the morning of the 7 at the latest. I will
try to have a ball park cost to you so you know in advance.
Written notice to neighbors is due by July 17, I will handle that and sign placement, although I will need your signature
on the letter.
You and will need to prepare your explanation and packet, that is something I can help you with.
th
Think that is all for now. I hope you have a nice 4 of July holiday.
Mike H
PS The login and password to the City’s portal where your application is located
Login: amardalan@sbcglobal.net
Password: Soori&Hamid
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Shestak, Joe
From:Soori Ardalan <amardalan@sbcglobal.net>
Sent:Monday, July 6, 2020 10:14 AM
To:Shestak, Joe; Conn, Angelina V; Hollibaugh, Mike P; Brainard, James C
Subject:Shahram’s Kitchen
**** This is an EXTERNAL email. Please exercise caution and Do Not open attachments or click links from
unknown senders or unexpected email. ****
Good morning
This morning I received email from Ks Angie Conn which confused me,
For your information these are the steps I have taken:
1)- my husband and I met Mr Mike Hollibough and asked for second sign for 246 W Main St. and asked him to grant the
sign permit the same way he did for KUABA Gallery 404 W Main st., with exception that CRC paid 100% of the sign cost
including the permit fee , but we ARE NOT ASKING FOR GRANT.AND WE WILL PAY FOR ALL THE SINGN COST INCLUDING
PERMIT,
Mike gave us The Allowed sign size which we present to Signcraft ,
Suddenly I was told I have to get VARIANCE!
This sign is at the same NONON AND MAIN COMMUNITY,
It is under same Covenant,
Just tell me why you are making it hard for me?
Why you don’t treat me The same As you did with the KUABA GALLERY?
I’m very disappointed,
Mike is doing his best getting this sign permit done,
But after reading your today email and requirements,
I SAID NO WAY,
You want me to go through torturing by public,
I am attaching Mike email which was sent me last Thursday July 02,20.
I WANT YOU TO EXPLAIN WHY YOU DIDN’T REQUIRED KUABA GALLERY ANY OF THESE REQUIREMENT?
UNFORTUNATELY IHAVE TO SAY YOU HAVE DOUBLE STANDARD.
I’m sad and disappointed.
Mike Hollibaugh Email dated 07,02,20
Soori, good afternoon.
The variance application for Shahram’s Kitchen sign is on file now but we still have a few things to handle for it to move
forward.
One is the application and review fee for the Hearing Officer Variance which is $371 . That is something we can’t avoid,
but is less than the normal amount for commercial variance at the Hearing Officer which is normally $749. The fee
needs to be paid no later than July 17.
I will be working on the public notice to the Current for you which will also have a cost to it. That is due this coming
th
Monday July 7 by noon. I will have the notice prepared and email it to you in the morning of the 7 at the latest. I will
try to have a ball park cost to you so you know in advance.
Written notice to neighbors is due by July 17, I will handle that and sign placement, although I will need your signature
on the letter.
You and will need to prepare your explanation and packet, that is something I can help you with.
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Think that is all for now. I hope you have a nice 4 of July holiday.
Mike H
PS The login and password to the City’s portal where your application is located
Login: amardalan@sbcglobal.net
Password: Soori&Hamid
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Shestak, Joe
From:Hollibaugh, Mike P
Sent:Wednesday, February 19, 2020 3:18 PM
To:Soori Ardalan; Chavez, Nathan; Finn, Rachel
Cc:Keesling, Rachel M
Subject:RE: Dimensions Emails
Soori, I think we have a bit of a misunderstanding here. When you asked to meet last month to meet, after our
discussion, we agreed a handful of things including:
That the meeting was very short notice and it wasn’t practical to ask staff into the meeting because they were
attending to city business,
that DOCS was supportive of what you wanted to do, and would find a way to accommodate new signage
that Nathan was the best person for you to work out the location and design details for the new signage, since
that is his role in DOCS and he had the most knowledge about what is allowed by the PUD, including where new
signage can be placed.
I am sorry if you left thinking your sign was approved. That is certainly not my recollection, as I don’t recall seeing a
proposed sign design, only a general discussion around the current sign, and that Nathan was best to work this out with
you.
Please know that having my support, or Department support, is not the same as having an approved sign design or an
approved sign permit. DOCS (and you) have to operate within the approved PUD for the project; Let me assure you that
Nathan and I will do our best to work out an acceptable location for the new sign that is within the parameters of the
PUD.
Sincerely yours,
Mike Hollibaugh
p. 317 571 2422
From: Soori Ardalan <amardalan@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 2:08 PM
To: Chavez, Nathan <nchavez@carmel.in.gov>; Finn, Rachel <rfinn@carmel.in.gov>; Hollibaugh, Mike P
<MHollibaugh@carmel.in.gov>
Cc: Soori Ardalan <amardalan@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Dimensions Emails
**** This is an EXTERNAL email. Please exercise caution and Do Not open attachments or click links from unknown
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Good morning
Dear Nathen:
As I wrote you per previous email ,
My husband and I met Mr Mike Hallibaugh on February 4th. regarding Shahram’s Kitchen Blade sign which Mr Mike
Hallibaugh approved it and asked Nathen to provide dimension for the blade sign.
February 07,2020 Mr Nathen Chavez emailed us (below email) providing us the Sign’s dimensions and identifying the
position of blade sign.
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February 07,2029 We met the sign company sales person and provided all the information and asked her to start
fabricating the Shahram’s Kitchen sign.
Suddenly February 14 Mr Nathen Chavez sending us changes which isn’t possible for few factors.
1)-Rain pours down due to malfunctioning of the highest level facets ( repair has tried still same issue) and its dangerous
bc of The electrical component of the sign.
2)-The sign will be posted less than 8 feet from the ground .
3)-There is no space since there’s second floor black balcony railing.
4)-The electrical access is limited .
5)-KUABA gallery is the second sign for the building too which was approved.
I like to meet you on site when we come back to Indy March 06,2020 since We are back to Denver bc of my son’s health
issues .
I hope above explanation answered your last email dated Friday February 14,2020.
Thanks
Soori
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On Feb 7, 2020, at 2:54 PM, Chavez, Nathan <nchavez@carmel.in.gov> wrote:
From: Chavez, Nathan
Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 2:48 PM
To: 'Soori Ardalan' <amardalan@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Dimensions Emails
Importance: High
Soori,
I just realized the email was in my drafts.
The sign may be up to 15.8 sq. ft. in size.
Staff prefers the sign to be on the opposite side of the building, opposite of the existing sign.
This has been a hectic week and I apologize for not getting to this as quickly.
Thank you,
Nathan F. Chavez | Sign Administrator
Dept. of Community Services | Planning & Zoning
City of Carmel | One Civic Square, Carmel, IN 46032
nchavez@carmel.in.gov | 317-571-2478
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