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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes PC 09-15-20 \ F ,i QtTNJ y/„ • 1 Cityof C MA % CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION SEPTEMBER 15, 2020 I MEETING MINUTES Location:Carmel City Hall Council Chambers,2nd Floor, 1 Civic Square,Cannel,IN 46032 Members Present: Brad Grabow,Jeff Hill,Carrie Holle,Nick Kestner,Alan Potasnik,Kevin Rider,Sue Westermeier,Christine Zoccola Members Absent: Josh Kirsh Staff Present:Adrienne Keeling,Rachel Keesling,Alexia Lopez,Joe Shestak,Mike Hollibaugh, Legal Counsel: John Molitor Time of Meeting:6:00 PM Declaration of Quorum: President Grabow: 8 members present,we have a Quorum Approval of Meeting Minutes: A Motion made by Rider and seconded by Westermeier to approve the August 18,2020 PC meeting minutes. Approved 8-0,absent Kirsh. Communications,Bills,Expenditures,&Legal Counsel Report:John Molitor • We held an Executive Committee to update to Rules of Procedure in regarding lockout periods • A Petitioner would have to wait a minimum of 6 months to file again if they were previously denied • We will add this restriction to Article 10,Section 3 in the Rules of Procedure A Motion by Rider and seconded by Westermeier to amend the Plan Commission Rules of Procedure. Approved 8-0.Absent Kirsh Reports,Announcements&Department Concerns I. Outcome of Projects at Committees: a. Commercial i. Docket No.PZ-2020-00076 DP/ADLS: Avant Phase II—Favorable Recommendation to full PC 4-0 b. Residential i. Docket No.PZ-2020-00069 PUD: Ambleside Point PUD Rezone—Discussed then continued to Oct. 6 ii. Docket No. 19090013a OA: Group Home Ordinance Standards—Fay.Recommendation to full PC 4-0 iii. Docket No. 19090013b OA:Accessory Dwelling Ord. Standards—Tabled to Oct. 6 Committee Public Hearings: Brad: Explained the Rules of Procedure for a Public Hearing 1. Docket No.PZ-2020-00006 OA: Clay Terrace PUD Amendment The applicant seeks PUD Amendment approval to modify the existing Clay Terrace PUD in order to foster redevelopment of a portion of the site.The site is located generally at the SW corner of 146th Street and US 31.It is zoned Clay Terrace PUD Z-386-02. Filed by Steven Hardin of Faegre Drinker Biddle&Reath LLP. Petitioner: Steve Hardin: • With me from Washington Prime Group are Lisa Callahan,India Olson,and Jennifer Jones • Presented an aerial view of the subject site • Clay Terrace was originally proposed and approved 20 years ago • We have seen changes in the retail landscape and Washington Prime has looked at ways to adapt to those changes • Washington Prime is a spinoff from Simon Property Group • We have been working on plans and strategy for about a year. The Pandemic stopped our progress for a while. Plan Commission Minutes 9-15-20 1 • There are existing tenants that will need to relocate. The Pandemic has forced some businesses to shut down • Presented a site plan, our redevelopment plans include an office building,parking garage,4 story multi-family structure with first floor retail&restaurants,and a hotel • We will have to come back to the Plan Commission for DP and ADLS approvals • Presented renderings of the proposed buildings • Our goal is to make this area more pedestrian friendly by reducing Clay Terrace Blvd.to one way north and one way south between the existing roundabouts in Clay Terrace • Clay Terrace Blvd.north of the roundabout will remain the same,3 lanes outbound and 3 lanes inbound • We will invite Jeremy Kashman of Cannel Engineering Dept.to the Committee meeting to discuss the traffic.A traffic memo was done by Kimberly-Horn,the engineering consultant. • We are proposing to include an outdoor gathering greenspace • We hosted a neighborhood meeting on Sept. 10. Top issues brought up by the neighbors were concerns about traffic,noise from live music events,and drainage. We will come back to the Committee meeting with some answers to their concerns. Public Comments: Peter Griffin,co-owner of Sola Salons, 14179 Clay Terrace Blvd.: We have a lease until 2035. We are excited about this project,but we have concerns about the parking. The existing parking lot is usually full. Today we counted 47 parked cars. The existing parking will be removed and replaced with an office building. I know they are proposing a parking garage. We are asking consideration for additional parking. Our clients will not want to walk from the parking garage in the middle of winter. What are the min.requirements for parking?How does the handicap parking get calculated?During construction,where will our employees and clients park? Brent Beecher,224 John Street: We had a good neighborhood meeting and communication within our community. We are excited with this project,but we have some concerns. We want to maintain the integrity of our neighborhood. We are concerned with the proposed building heights. We would like consideration to maintain a 45' building height for buildings adjacent to the residential areas. The taller buildings can be closer to US 31. The orientation of music and public events should be faced away from the neighborhood. There's an existing 50' wooded buffer,but can you increase the height of the 8' privacy fence along the parking at Clay Terrace?Traffic is a concern. Can a curbed median be installed to prevent U-turns on 146th Street?400-600 people will be added to this site with the hotel and multi-family units,can the security be improved?Can we add another entrance,entry way for hotel only users? Dave Taylor,Stonehedge Estates: I would want to second everything Mr.Brent Beecher has said. I was part of the original Clay Terrace development. We are in favor of this process of including the neighbor's input. Rebuttal to Public Comments: Steve Hardin • We will digest their comments and report back to the Committee meeting • I don't have a parking number to provide Mr. Griffin and Sola Salons,but we will research and report back with an answer at the Committee meeting Department Report: Rachel Keesling: • Originally approved in 2002,and they had the foresight to include uses such as working, dining, and living • They are proposing to add more office and residential living space • Overall building heights will increase • Amount of parking has been changed from what is allowed in the ordinance,and will be determined by a parking study for all the uses • Signage will be changing to allow many types of signs.The size and height allowed will increase. • We need to look at the all the proposed new uses and also look closely at a drive-up/pick-up lane for call ahead restaurant orders • How many apartments are they proposing? There's no number specified in the PUD. • There's an existing 50' tree buffer along the west and south and we want to preserve that area • We will continue to work with the petitioner on the PUD language,and Staff recommends this goes to the Commercial Committee with it coming back to the full Plan Commission for a final recommendation to the CC Plan Commission Minutes 9-15-20 2 Committee Comments: Kevin: When is the next neighborhood meeting? Steve Hardin: Next Tuesday at the former Forever 2 in Clay Terrace. ISue: This is a great project. I want the Commercial Committee to look at the traffic and the existing entrances,as well as the possibility of adding another entrance to this development. Carrie: Can you go over the layout of the site plan? What the existing site looks like now and what will be removed and added? Steve Hardin: Presented the existing layout and the proposed concept plan. Carrie: I've experienced a full parking lot at Clay Terrace. Parking is a real concern to consider. Jeff: With the two buildings being demoed,what's the net retail? What's being removed and added? A traffic memo would be helpful. How many apartment units? How tall is the building? How many hotel rooms?How many parking spaces for the parking garage?A pedestrian trail from the existing neighborhoods?Can you bring us renderings of how the greenspace is going to look?Steve Hardin: The amount of retail will decrease. The pedestrian trail will remain and go further into this development. We will bring the details to your questions to the Committee. Kevin: Before the Committee meeting,can Staff and the Petitioner meet with Engineering Department to discuss the possibility of another access point/entrance?Brad: Currently there are two access points and they create some challenges. A right in and right out has been discussed. We know it's difficult to work with Hamilton County on 146th Street and INDOT on US 31. We need to investigate if there's a possibility of another access point. Brad: What does the current PUD require for parking? Are those standards appropriate for the new uses?What are the net changes in the existing PUD compared to the amended PUD?We need to make sure we have an adequate level of parking. Christine: What are the heights for each proposed building?Steve Hardin: Approx. 85-95' for the mixed-use building, Ioffice building,and hotel. We will need to check on the height for the parking structure. Christine: Can the Committee look at the signage because some of the proposed signage is increasing and are quite large. Brad: We can look at other opportunities for signage on the proposed buildings and the east facade of the parking garage. Rachel Keesling: We don't allow signage on accessory structures,so we will need to discuss this.Brad:As for the garage,we will need to look at the 4-sided architecture,design, and color of the parking garage since it's in a high-profile location along US 31. Nick: The City has no regulations for the kiosks.I would like to see how these would work and the proposed locations. Come up with requirements on the kiosks.Make sure bike parking are in the right spots. Alan: Can you point out where the buildings are in relationship to the entrances?Can you bring a more detailed depiction of what you are proposing? Steve Hardin: The existing entrances and 3 lanes in and out will stay the same.Only between the two roundabouts the boulevard will go from 4 lanes to 2 lanes. We will bring additional renderings and info to the Committee meeting. Brad: Is there an opportunity to have any of the parking below grade?Steve Hardin: Our plan is not to over-park or under-park this site. The original plan for the parking garage was double the size as we are proposing it now. The City encouraged us to decrease the size of the garage. The proposed parking garage has 480-500 parking spaces. We will bring more details about the parking to our next meeting. A Motion by Hill and seconded by Zoccola to send PZ-2020-00006 OA to the Commercial Committee with the full Plan Commission having final voting authority. Approve 8-0,absent Kirsh. 2. Docket No.PZ-2020-00084 DP/ADLS: AT&T Maintenance Building 3. Docket No.PZ-2020-00118 ZW: Max.Accessory Bldg.Height 18 ft.,20 ft. proposed The applicant seeks site plan and design approval and waiver approval for a new accessory building and parking expansion.The new accessory building will be 20' tall and 1,920 sq. ft.42 new parking spaces will be added. Plan Commission Minutes 9-15-20 3