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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes PC 02-16-21 4 Plan Commission Meeting Minutes 2-16-21 Carrie: Can Staff show us where the additional rear window to be placed? Alexia Lopez: Presented Site Plan, third floor on Building 1, has a blank exterior wall facing and visible from 146th Street. Reviewing the floor plan, this wall is a bedroom. Brad: We need to look at the practicality use of the bedroom space. Builders typically leave a blank space along one wall which they can position the larger furniture of the room. Nick: Make sure there’s enough space to park a car next to the mailbox kiosk so other cars can pass by if a car is stopped/parked to pick up their mail. A Motion by Zoccola and seconded by Westermeier to forward Docket No. PZ-2020-00221 DP/ADLS to the March 2nd Residential Committee with them having final voting authority. Approved 9-0. 3. Docket No. PZ-2020-00223 PP: Jackson’s Grant Village Primary Plat. The applicant seeks primary plat approval for 19 lots on 22 acres. The site is located at the NW corner of 116th Street and Springmill Road. It is zoned Jackson’s Grant Village PUD (Ordinance Z-653-20). Filed by Douglas Wagner with Republic Development LLC. Petitioner: Doug Wagner: • With me tonight are Larry Moon of Republic Development and Gordan Kritz of Stoeppelwerth & Associates • Presented site plan, this PP proposal only includes the 19 single-family detached lots • The townhomes and commercial area must go through a separate DP/ADLS process • The criteria of the PUD is met in the single-family detached area • Staff has asked us to increase the buffer from 20’ to 25’ at the northwest corner where it abuts Dr. Noland’s property/home • Staff asked us to label the street light heights. Our streetlights will be 15’ height in our residential area. • “No Construction Traffic” signs will be placed at the intersections of Hamlet Drive/Springmill and Otto Lane/Hamlet. We will show this on the PP and construction plans • We received two concerned letters addressing the Tree Preservation Areas (TPA). We have committed to extend the TPA (tree row) along the northern property line that is just north of our pond. We responded to the two letters. Public Comments: Written comments were submitted by Jackson’s Grant residents, Jay Benjamin, and Jane Herndon. The Petitioner responded to their emails. The emails can be viewed in Laserfiche. Department Report: Alexia Lopez: • The PP is just for the single-family residential portion and the associated streets. Future phases of JGV will require DP/ADLS approval from the Plan Commission for townhome and commercial sections • The PP is in line with their concept plan. They will need to update their open space plan. • They will need to label any benches or pergolas along the pond and paths • Staff recommends this is continued at the March 2 Residential Committee for further review Committee Comments: Alan: What roads are included in this PP approval process? Doug Wagner: All the roads are included, but none of alleys or parking will be included in this process. Josh: I do like “No Construction Traffic” signs that are red in nature and that you provide a green sign that shows where the construction entrance is. Can you bring to the Committee the details of the areas around the ponds? I do not like when the grass is mowed all the way to the edge of the water. Doug Wagner: We have committed in our PUD to have 50% of native grasses and plants around our ponds. We do like mowing the grass to the edge of the water, so the pond is more visible and an amenity for the homeowners. We can bring our details to the Committee. Jeff: Do you intend to install angled parking along Village Creek Drive? Doug Wagner: We will provide angled parking along Village Creek Drive and Keaton Drive. We will also update our PP plans to show the angled parking along our common area along 116th Street. Jeff: Will there be any prohibition against west bound traffic on Village Creek Drive 5 Plan Commission Meeting Minutes 2-16-21 turning 120 degrees into a parking space? Doug Wagner: We have not heard any comments yet from Carmel Engineering Jeff: You are showing storm sewer being installed across the area you are not requesting approvals for. Doug Wagner: Some of the drainage pipe shown in the commercial area will not have to go in as a part of this PP. We will remove that in our PP. Brad: The drainage features require a 20’ wide along the easements. Is there room along the pond for the drainage, 20’ easement and the TPA? Doug Wagner: The 20’ wide easement is for algae control in our common areas. A Motion by Kirsh and seconded by Hill to forward PZ-2020-00223 PP to the March 2nd Residential Committee with the full Plan Commission having final voting authority. Approved 9 -0. Old Business: 1. Docket No. PZ-2020-00119 OA: Sign Standards Amendments. The applicant seeks to amend the Unified Development Ordinance in order to amend Section 5.39 Sign Standards, Sections 7.11 & 7.12 Entryway Feature Standards, Section 5.66 Food Stand Use Standards, Section 1.29 Filing Fees, and Definitions for signage. Filed by the Department of Community Services on behalf of the Carmel Plan Commission. Petitioner: Nathan Chavez, Department of Community Services: • We have gone through 3 Commercial Committee meetings and five major changes occurred • We removed the 15’ setback standard for building mounted signage – wall, blade, or projected signage • We introduced canopy sign standards. We have seen more canopy signs with our new mixed-use developments in Midtown. Sign graphics within the canopy signage can’t exceed the length of the primary signage. • Additional sign and square footage has been added if an establishment has two drive thru lanes • Construction fence sign shall not exceed the height of the actual construction fencing • Illumination levels shall not exceed 0.1 foot-candles at the property line for entryway feature signage • Staff recommends this is forwarded to the City Council with a favorable recommendation Commercial Committee Recap: Alan Potasnik, Chair: • Nathan did a tremendous job in his explanations, research and presentation • We did discuss the PC’s recommendations and questions at our Committee meetings Committee Comments: Brad: Construction fencing signage is allowed 20% of the total mesh area. What does mesh area mean? Nathan Chavez: The mesh area is referenced to the area used for a wind screen and not the actual fencing. A Motion by Rider and seconded by Kirsh to forward PZ-2020-00119 OA to the City Council with a Favorable Recommendation. Approved 9-0. 2. Docket No. PZ-2020-00155 Albany Village PUD. The applicant seeks PUD rezone approval to allow a new subdivision consisting of single-family detached and single-family attached residential. The site is located at 14407 Shelborne Rd. on approximately 36.7 acres. It is currently zoned S-1/Residential. Filed by Jim Shinaver and Jon Dobosiewicz of Nelson & Frankenberger on behalf of the Logan Group, LLC. Petitioner: Jon Dobosiewicz: • With me tonight are Steve Pittman of Pittman Partners, Paul Rioux of Platinum Properties, and Jim Shinaver of Nelson & Frankenberger • Presented site plan, as part of the review process, we have made significant changes project modifications and enhancements. • Landscape and buffer enhancements were added along the perimeter of this site 6 Plan Commission Meeting Minutes 2-16-21 • We added pedestrian amenities including benches, bike parking, multi-purpose field area, path connectivity, and pocket park • We will have pedestrian connectivity throughout our development, and a crosswalk on Shelborne Road to the new Carmel City Park. All paths will be 10’ in width. • Presented front and rear Elevations of the two-family dwellings. Architecture enhancements were added including 4-sided masonry, pitched roof line, and gables. • Maintenance plans were added to the OA that includes mulch beds and snow removal • A min. 50% of all single-family dwellings would include side-loading garage and a min. of 5 lots along the shared eastern property line with Tallyns Ridge will have side-loading garages • Enhanced landscape buffer treatment will be added to lots along Tallyns Ridge that includes 4 trees in the rear lots, in additional to the TPA along the eastern perimeter • Presented exhibits of 146th Street perimeter landscaping, appropriate buffering is required along this area • A negative recommendation was voted by the Residential Committee since the connection was not made at 146th Street frontage road. Carmel Engineering did not recommend this connection. • We would request that the PC forward this to the CC with a favorable recommendation Department Report: Alexia Lopez: • In general, Staff is in support of this PUD proposal at the corner of 146th Street and Shelborne Road • The developer is proposing a well landscaped buffer along 146th Street and Shelborne Road to help block the rears of the homes and has agreed to additional landscaping in the rears of homes along the eastern boundary along Tallyns Ridge. • They are providing public paths throughout the development and crosswalk on Shelborne Road that connects to the new Carmel City Park • Staff did ask for the cul-de-sac to connect to the 146th frontage road and 6’ deep front porches for the homes that have front porches. If the street connection and 6’ porches can be done, Staff would recommend a favorable consideration • If the changes cannot be made, then Staff cannot support this PUD and recommends a negative recommendation to the City Council Residential Committee Recap: Sue Westermeier, Chair: • We had three long committee meetings and a lot of improvements were made • Overall, we felt we’ve made this into a very nice development • I think it’s important to have the connection to the 146th frontage road. The only entrance is off of Shelborne. • 6’ deep porches is an Ordinance requirement for 20% of the homes • We voted 3-1 for a negative recommendation back to the full Plan Commission • We would ask the other Plan Commission members to weigh-in on these issues Committee Comments: Christine: All the other adjacent neighborhoods have a direct connection to 146th frontage road, not the main 146th highway. Carrie: I was the lone vote of the Committee in favor of this. To me, the connection at the 146th frontage road is more a detriment than an improvement. The connection would break up their landscape buffer and noise buffer. The Petitioner did everything we asked of them. I think this became out to be a beautiful project. I don’t think people will utilize their front porches like they would their back porches. Kevin: We need to listen to our City Engineers, and they recommended this connection is not necessary for this development. They would support this either way, but the connection is not needed. Alan: I agree with Carrie and Kevin. I’m having trouble seeing this connection through this landscape buffering. Also, the developer can seek a variance through the BZA for the front porches. Josh: I was in favor of a connection to the 146th frontage road. At some point in time, there will be a median on Shelborne Road which will prevent left-hand turns into this development. I have also spoken to residents along 146th Street and they aren’t happy with the increased levels of sound from the new 146th Street. An opening/connection would not make the sound situation better. Brad: Presented an aerial view of the subject site, the Unified Development Ordinance (UDO) or Carmel Clay Comprehensive Plan contains no requirement that would make the 146th Street connection mandatory. When the older subdivisions to the east were developed, they did connect to old 146th because that was the only street that existed. Now we have the new 146th Street. I think the we need to defer to the Carmel Fire Department (CFD). I don’t see this as a public safety standpoint of this connection to old 146th Street. The two nearest CFD stations would be coming from the 7 Plan Commission Meeting Minutes 2-16-21 south and travel north on Shelborne Road or Springmill Road, and then use 141st Street to enter Tallyns Ridge or Shelborne Road entrance to access Albany Village. Jeff: The landscape buffer along 146th Street will help maintain the highest value of this neighborhood. I don’t think this access point is necessary. Christine: I do want to thank the Petitioner to for adding the additional landscape buffers to the rears of the Tallyns Ridge homes. Does anyone have an opinion of the same color two-family dwelling homes? Jon Dobosiewicz: I believe we agreed to have the same color. Jeff: Can the Petitioner explain the pushback on the front porch depth? Paul Rioux: We had a lot of discussion at our Committee meetings. We have covered entry ways and not front porches. Porches are an architectural style that doesn’t go with our plans. Our builder Drees doesn’t have a single house plan with 6’ deep front porches. They have two plans with 5’2” deep porches. A Motion by Rider and seconded by Holle to forward PZ-2020-00155 PUD to the City Council with a Favorable Recommendation. Approved 6-3, Kestner, Westermeier, Zoccola. Meeting Adjourned at 8:08 p.m. _______________________________________ ________________________________________ Joe Shestak Plan Commission Secretary Brad Grabow President