HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes PC 04-16-91CARMEL PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - APRIL 16, 1991 1
The regular meeting of the Carmel Planning Commission was brought
to order by Jeff Davis, President on April 16,, 1991 at 7:30 P.M.
at the Carmel City Council Chambers. The meeting was opened with
the Pledge of Allegiance.
The board members present were: Alan Potasnik, Richard Klar,
Caroline Bainbridge, Michael Nardi, Tom Whitehead, Jim O'Neal,
Annabelle Ogle, Tom Welch, Jeff Davis, Ron Houck, Henrietta Lamb,
Sue McMullen, Henry Blackwell and Sharon Clark, Hamilton County
Plan Commission representative. Annabelle Ogle and Max Moore
were not present.
The staff members present were: Wes Bucher, David Cunningham,
Rick Brandau, Mike Hollibaugh, Terry Jones and Dorthy Neisler.
Mrs: McMullen moved to approve the March 19, 1991 minutes as
amended on Page 2, 1st paragraph, line 13 should read: talked to
State Senator Bill Soards and another Plan Commission.
Mr. Klar seconded.
Unanimously approved.
G. PUBLIC HEARINGS
1g-. Commission to consider Docket No. 15-91 P.P., a primary
plat application for Cherry Tree Subdivision. The
primary plat consists of 1 lot located on the west side
of Cherry Tree Road approximately 950' south of 146th
Street. Site is zoned S-1 residence district.
Petitioner request approval to plat a .95 acre lot r
subdivision for the development of a single-family
residence. The petitioner is also requesting the
following Subdivision Regulation variance:
8.9 - Installation of sidewalks
The petitioner has also filed the Secondary plat and is
seeking a simultaneous approval of the Primary and
,Secondary plats - docket No. for the Secondary plat is
16-91 S.P.
Filed by Stanley and Dorothy Hirschfeld.
The public hearing was opened at 7:35 P.M.
Mr. Stan Neal of Weihe Engineering,150 College, Indianapolis,
made the presentation, a copy of which is on file at the Carmel
Department of Community Development.
Mr. Hirschfeld was present.
An aerial photograph was shown.
Mr. Robert Cotton, 14535 Cherry Tree Rd., stated his concerns
regarding this project. His concerns are the city utilities,
septic system, building a home which is closer then the 45'
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setback. He wanted to know what provisions have been provided
for the sewage and what is the basis for waiving the setback? He
personally objects to the approval on the basis that it is less
than the other properties in the area.
Mr. Tim Ayres, 14444 Cherry Tree Rd., spoke in opposition to the
project, stating that this lot in unsuitable for a home of this
size with that type of septic system in front. He is not opposed
to them building on this lot.
Mr. Bob Petner, lives directly across from this project. He
stated that his biggest objection is to the less than 1 acre lot
size.
Mr. Kurt McKinley, 14519 Cherry Tree Rd., stated his concerns and
objections which are similar to previous remonstrators. He
requested that the board not grant this petition.
Mrs. Jennifer Ayres, 14444 Cherry Tree Rd., spoke in opposition
to this project. Her concerns was the preservation of the rural
settings of the neighborhood.
Mr. Richard Smikle, 14400 Cherry Tree Rd. lives across the
street, stated his concerns regarding the easement and the
widening of the road which will bring the road back closer to the
homesite..
Mr. Greg Clancy, 14415 Cherry Tree Rd., spoke in opposition to
this project and his concerns.
The public hearing was closed at 8 P.M.
Mr. Stan Neal stated that regarding the septic system it has been
approved with a Wisconsin Mound which the only thing they are
waiting on are detailed plans of that mound for its approval. A
building permit cannot be issued on the lot until they do have a
valid septic permit. Mr. Neal showed where the sand mound would
be located and where the home would be set. (was not using mike)
There was further discussion regarding the wisconsin mounds.
Mr. Neal stated that the piece of ground platting is .95 of an
acre including the right-of-way. Your ordinance provides for a
piece ground can have an area of less than 1 acre on a lot as
long as it has adequate drainage. The lot size with adequate
drainage is 38,560 square feet. Our lot size as platted is
36,010 sq.ft..
There was further discussion regarding the lot size.q
This item will be sent to the Subdivision Committee, on May 14,
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1991 at 7:30 P.M. at the Carmel City Chambers.
H. OLD BUSINESS
1h. Commission to consider Docket No. 1-91 CP, an amendment
s to Ordinance D-454, entitled the Comprehensive Plan
Update, City of Carmel/Clay Township, 1985, effective
September 30, 1985. The amendment for review is
presently captioned as the "Amendment to Comprehensive
Plan Update, City of Carmel/Clay Township, 1990."
Filed by William E.. Wendling, Attorney for the
Carmel/Clay Plan Commission:
This has been acted upon and sent to City Council.
2h. Commission to consider Docket No. 4-91 O.A., an
ordinance amendment to Ordinance Z-160, the proposed
r amendment is to regulate outside storage and displays.
Filed by William E. Wendling for the Carmel/Clay Plan
Commission.
This item was tabled at Land Use Committee.
3h. Commission to consider Docket No. 5-91 OA, an ordinance
amendment to Ordinance Z-160, the proposed amendment is
to regulate swimming pool fences.
Filed by William E. Wendling for the Carmel/Clay Plan
Commission.
Mr. Wendling,. Jr. stated that this ordinance was discussed at the
Sub -committee meeting and then was mailed to the Plan Commission
members to review. This reflects what the City Council requested
to incorporate a 6' high fence-. The main part of the statue
states that they have to have a 6' high fence. They may have a
pool cover also, if so desired.
Mr. Ron Houck has a concern regarding the language in the
ordinance, point 2 of the amendment, stating "other means not
less than 6' high deemed impenetrable by the enforcing authority
at the time of construction and completing surrounding the pool
and deck area when the pool is not used", does that mean it
doesn't -have to be surrounded when it is not being used? It is a
safety concern.
Mr. Tom Whitehead asked what about the pools that are in
existence right now?
Mr_.. William Wendling, Jr. stated that they would be grandfathered
in and when there is a significant change the new ordinance would
be adapted.
Mr. Klar moved to approve Docket No. 5-91 OA as presented.
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Mrs. McMullen seconded
Approved 12-1. Mr. Davis opposing.
4h. Commission to consider Docket No. 9-91 Z, a rezone
application for Harry & Richard Morgan. Site consists
of 1.77 acres of land located on the west side of
Rangeline Road, south of Winona Drive, north of Gradle
Drive and east of the Carmel/Clay Fire Dept. -Station 1.
Site is currently zoned B-4 (Business). Rezone request
is to zone this property to B-1 (Business) for a
development of a retail center.
Filed by E. Davis Coots for Harry & Richard Morgan.
Mr. Potasnik noted Land Use minutes (which is a part of the
official minutes and attached to the Master Copy).
Mr. Potasnik moved to approve Docket No. 9-91 Z as presented.
Mrs. McMullen seconded
Unanimously approved.
5h. Commission to consider Docket No. 11-91 PP, a primary
plat application for Windemere subdivision. The
primary plat consists of 97 lots on 81.66 acres of
land. The site is located on the south side of 106th
Street approximately one half mile west of Ditch Road.
Site is zoned S-1 residence district. Petitioner is
requesting approval to subdivide the property into 97
single family lots. The petitioner is also requesting
the following Subdivision Regulation variance:
6.3.7 - Cul-de-sac length exceeding 600'
6.3.21 - Subdivisions consisting of more than 15
lots to have two points of access.
Filed by Steve Wilson for Windemere Corporation.
Mrs. Bainbridge moved to approve Docket No. 11-91 PP variance
6.3.7 as presented.
Mr. Klar seconded.
Findings of facts were completed by all board members.
Unanimously approved.
Mr. Blackwell moved to approved Docket No. 11-91 PP variance
6.3.21 as presented.
Mr. Klar seconded
Findings of Facts were completed by all board members.
Unanimously approved.
Mr. Blackwell moved to approve Docket No. 11-91 PP as presented.
Mrs. Bainbridge seconded.
Findings of Facts were completed by all board members.
Unanimously approved.
6h. Commission to consider Docket No. 12-91 PP, a primary
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plat application for Bentley Oaks subdivision. The
primary plat consists of 49 lots on 18.63 acres of
land. The site is located on the south side of 136th
Street approximately one quarter mile west of Oakridge
Road. Site is zoned.S-2 residence district..
Petitioner is requesting approval to subdivide the
property into 49 single family lots. The petitioner is
also requesting the following Subdivision Regulation
variance:
6.3.3-Certain proposed streets shall be stubbed
for future development.
6.3.6 - Minimum Residential street width of 30'
Filed by E. Davis Coots for Weiper/Reagan/Copenhaver
Mrs. Lamb moved to approve Docket No. 12-91 PP variance 6.3.3 as
presented.
Mr.Klar seconded.
Findings of Facts were completed by all board members..
Unanimously approved.
Mr. Blackwell moved to approve Docket No. 12-91 PP variance 6.3.6
as presented..
Mr. Klar seconded.
Findings of Facts were completed by all board members.
Unanimously approved..
Mr. Klar moved to approve Docket No. 12-91 PP as presented.
Seconded.
Staff recommendations were noted.
Findings of Facts were completed by all board members.
Unanimously approved:
7h. Commission to consider Docket No. 13-91 DP (Amend), a
Development Plan Amendment for the Conseco Office
Center. Site is located at 11815 North Pennsylvania
and is zoned M-3 Manufacturing District. Petitioner
seeks approval to amend the previously approved
Development Plan for Blocks 10 & 20 of the Carmel
Science and Technology Park.
Filed by James J. Nelson for Lincoln Income Life
Insurance Company.
Mr. Potasnik read Land Use minutes (which is a part of the
official minutes and attached to the Master Copy).
Mr. Potasnik moved to approve Docket No. 13-91 DP as presented.
Mrs. Lamb seconded.:
Unanimously approved.
Mrs. McMullen and Mr. Potasnik concerned their concerns regarding
the signs in the community and the sign ordinance.
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Mr. Davis requested that Mr. Bucher send a letter to the Plan
Commission stating what the staff's plans are regarding the sign
ordinance and the lighted window signs.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:05 P.M..
President Secretary