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CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION
JULY 20, 2021 I MEETING MINUTES
Location: Council Chambers Room,2nd Floor,Cannel City Hall
Members Present: Brad Grabow,Carrie Holle,Nick Kesiner,Alan Potasnik,Kevin Rider,Sue Westermeier,Christine Zoccola
Members Absent:Jeff Hill,Josh Kirsh
Staff Present: Mike Hollibaugh,Adrienne Keeling,Rachel Keesling,Alexia Lopez,Joe Shestak
Legal Counsel: Paul Reis
Time of Meeting:6:00 PM
Declaration of Quorum:President Grabow: 7 members present,we have a Quorum
Approval of Meeting Minutes:
A Motion made by Zoccola and seconded by Westermeier to approve the June 15,2021 PC meeting minutes.
Approved 7-0,absent Hill,Kirsh.
Communications,Bills,Expenditures,& Legal Counsel Report: Paul Reis:Nothing to report.
Outcome of Projects at Committees: Rachel Keesling:
1. Commercial:
• Docket No. PZ-2021-00062 OA: Gas Station Setback& Standards Amend.—Favorable Rec.to PC 4-0
• Docket No. PZ-2021-00048 DP/ADLS:Napleton Auxiliary Lot and Detail Center—Fay.Rec.to PC 4-0
• Docket No. PZ-2021-00075 DP/ADLS: Bank of America—The Bridges—Favorable Rec.to PC 3-1
2. Residential:
• Docket No.PZ-2021-00032 ADLS: Ambleside Point Townhomes—Favorable Rec. to PC 3-0
• Docket No. PZ-2021-00073 PP: Albany Village Subdivision—Approved 3-0
Public Hearings:None
Old Business:
1. Docket No.PZ-2021-00032 ADLS: Ambleside Point Townhomes.
The applicant seeks ADLS approval for 130 new townhomes on 60.4 acres. The site is located at 2135 W 146d'
Street It is zoned Ambleside Point PUD/Planned Unit Development(Z-659-20). Filed by Jim Shinaver and Jon
Dobosiewicz of Nelson and Frankenberger on behalf of Hoffman Developer,LLC.
Petitioner: Jon Dobosiewicz:
• Present with me tonight are Rex Ramage, Steve Pittman,and Rick Lawrence
• Presented Landscape Plan,fully complies with the standards of the PUD. Pedestrian benches,postal kiosk, short-
term bike parking,and enhanced landscaping at the entrances are now shown in the landscape plan.
• 4-, 5-,and 6-unit townhome buildings with all having rear loading garages with access from the alley
• Presented Color Scheme elevations, primary building materials on all the townhomes will consist of brick and
stone masonry,multiple hardy plank exterior material variations,and significant window treatments
• We believe we meet the architecture design requirements of the PUD Ordinance and ask for your approval
Department Report: Alexia Lopez:
I • They are proposing to develop 130 townhomes in 30 buildings
• Staff and the Petitioner worked together to improve the architecture standards, so this can be the best project it
can be. These improvements include adding a more decorative window treatment and gray siding to break up the
long expanses of white siding on the rear elevations.Additional brick was added to the sides of the internal units.
• More amenities have been added in the common areas between the townhome buildings,that include a sidewalk
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across the green space,benches, bike racks and some flower beds around the bench and bike parking areas.
• Staff requested the Petitioner to provide a variety of front elevations building by building instead of having them
all follow the same pattern, since there are 30 buildings in this project,and to bring back the 3-story brick option
of some of the units,that was provided in the character images of the PUD. Staff and the Committee felt these
updates would make this townhome development even better.The Petitioner did not agree with our architectural
improvements.
• Staff recommends after all comments are discussed,to approve this item
Residential Committee Recap: Sue Westermeier:
• Staff gave a great summary. The Committee was very disappointed that the Petitioner would only commit to the
minimum requirements in the PUD. We would like to discuss this further with the full Plan Commission.
Committee Comments:
Sue:Presented character images that were presented in the PUD. We are not getting the design and architecture that is
shown in the PUD.But,as Staff confirmed,they are meeting the minimum standards of the PUD. I would ask the
Commission during the PUD process is to drill down the details and specifics of what we really want in a development.
The Petitioner stated they didn't know who the builder would be at the time of the PUD. This is a lesson learned. The look
of 130 units is overwhelming.Our hands were tied during the Residential Committee meetings,and I would welcome any
input from the full Plan Commission at this time.Kevin: If our minimum standards are not high enough,then we need to
raise them. We approved this PUD,and if we didn't ask enough,then shame on us. Let's stop beating up the developers
for what we didn't ask for.It's too late in the game.
Christine: When this project came through, it was discussed that these townhomes will offer an affordable product in
Cannel. What are the starting prices for these townhomes?Jon Dobosiewicz: 300k.Presented illustration of Pulte
townhome product. Monotony and enhancements were discussed in our PUD presentations to the Plan Commission and
City Council. Enhancements were made to the side elevations that are most visible to 146th. These building illustrations
were used as a pattern for developing a product that is being proposed now and is not an identical,but similar in character.
Brad: We have 130 units with three or four elevation options. Context is everything.At most,there are 6-units in a single
building.The buildings are set well back from the new 146th highway. There will be a pedestrian path and rows of trees in
between the highway and buildings.The concern of monotony, if any, is mitigated by the layout of this project.Only 18
units will face each other. The breakup of the buildings into 4, 5,and 6-units helps.A recent Pulte project off of 161st and
the Monon,has multiple townhome buildings,but the layout,and the variety of colors and building materials,help deviate
from any architectural monotony issues.
A Motion made by Rider and seconded by Potasnik to approve PZ-2021-00032 ADLS.
Approved 7-0,absent Hill,Kirsh.
2. Docket No.PZ-2021-00048 DP/ADLS: Napleton Auxiliary Lot and Detail Center.
The applicant seeks site plan and design approval for a new auxiliary parking lot and detail and service center.
The site is located at 4538 E.96th Street(north of the Napleton Hyundai dealership).It is zoned B-3/Business
District. Filed by Jon Dobosiewicz and Rick Lawrence of Nelson&Frankenberger on behalf of EFN Crossroads
Property,LLC.
Petitioner: Rick Lawrence:
• With me tonight are Katie Napleton,Richard Brandstatter,Tim Dimmit,and Bill Butz
• We received a favorable 4-0 vote from the Commercial Committee
• Presented an aerial view and an updated site plan
• Updates since the May PC meeting were sidewalk connectivity,bike parking,trash dumpster enclosure,on-site
crosswalks,concrete panels will be painted white,windows added to east elevation,and landscape plan
• The easement area around the detention pond has been reduced,and does not extend in the 50' preserved wooded
area
• We will install a sidewalk along Randall Drive between the existing mature trees and property line
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