HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes PC 07-20-21 across the green space,benches, bike racks and some flower beds around the bench and bike parking areas.
• Staff requested the Petitioner to provide a variety of front elevations building by building instead of having them
all follow the same pattern, since there are 30 buildings in this project,and to bring back the 3-story brick option
of some of the units,that was provided in the character images of the PUD. Staff and the Committee felt these
updates would make this townhome development even better.The Petitioner did not agree with our architectural
improvements.
• Staff recommends after all comments are discussed,to approve this item
Residential Committee Recap: Sue Westermeier:
• Staff gave a great summary. The Committee was very disappointed that the Petitioner would only commit to the
minimum requirements in the PUD. We would like to discuss this further with the full Plan Commission.
Committee Comments:
Sue:Presented character images that were presented in the PUD. We are not getting the design and architecture that is
shown in the PUD.But,as Staff confirmed,they are meeting the minimum standards of the PUD. I would ask the
Commission during the PUD process is to drill down the details and specifics of what we really want in a development.
The Petitioner stated they didn't know who the builder would be at the time of the PUD. This is a lesson learned. The look
of 130 units is overwhelming.Our hands were tied during the Residential Committee meetings,and I would welcome any
input from the full Plan Commission at this time.Kevin: If our minimum standards are not high enough,then we need to
raise them. We approved this PUD,and if we didn't ask enough,then shame on us. Let's stop beating up the developers
for what we didn't ask for.It's too late in the game.
Christine: When this project came through, it was discussed that these townhomes will offer an affordable product in
Cannel. What are the starting prices for these townhomes?Jon Dobosiewicz: 300k.Presented illustration of Pulte
townhome product. Monotony and enhancements were discussed in our PUD presentations to the Plan Commission and
City Council. Enhancements were made to the side elevations that are most visible to 146th. These building illustrations
were used as a pattern for developing a product that is being proposed now and is not an identical,but similar in character.
Brad: We have 130 units with three or four elevation options. Context is everything.At most,there are 6-units in a single
building.The buildings are set well back from the new 146th highway. There will be a pedestrian path and rows of trees in
between the highway and buildings.The concern of monotony, if any, is mitigated by the layout of this project.Only 18
units will face each other. The breakup of the buildings into 4, 5,and 6-units helps.A recent Pulte project off of 161st and
the Monon,has multiple townhome buildings,but the layout,and the variety of colors and building materials,help deviate
from any architectural monotony issues.
A Motion made by Rider and seconded by Potasnik to approve PZ-2021-00032 ADLS.
Approved 7-0,absent Hill,Kirsh.
2. Docket No.PZ-2021-00048 DP/ADLS: Napleton Auxiliary Lot and Detail Center.
The applicant seeks site plan and design approval for a new auxiliary parking lot and detail and service center.
The site is located at 4538 E.96th Street(north of the Napleton Hyundai dealership).It is zoned B-3/Business
District. Filed by Jon Dobosiewicz and Rick Lawrence of Nelson&Frankenberger on behalf of EFN Crossroads
Property,LLC.
Petitioner: Rick Lawrence:
• With me tonight are Katie Napleton,Richard Brandstatter,Tim Dimmit,and Bill Butz
• We received a favorable 4-0 vote from the Commercial Committee
• Presented an aerial view and an updated site plan
• Updates since the May PC meeting were sidewalk connectivity,bike parking,trash dumpster enclosure,on-site
crosswalks,concrete panels will be painted white,windows added to east elevation,and landscape plan
• The easement area around the detention pond has been reduced,and does not extend in the 50' preserved wooded
area
• We will install a sidewalk along Randall Drive between the existing mature trees and property line
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Department Report: Rachel Keesling:
• Four spandrel glass windows will be added to the east elevation
• Urban Forester stated the roots of the existing mature trees will not be disturbed by the newly installed sidewalk
• The dumpster is now orientated away from Randall Drive
• Additional trees will be planted along the northern property line
• Staff recommends approval at tonight's meeting
Commercial Committee Recap: Alan Potasnik:
• Staff did a great job recapping our Committee meetings. All of our comments were addressed.
Committee Comments:
Christine: How tall will the 24 evergreen trees be at planting?Rachel Keesling: Typically,6'. Christine: Are plantings
included at the dry detention pond?Rick Lawrence: Just native grasses,no actual plantings at the dry detention.
Sue: Will there be any loudspeakers on site?Rick Lawrence: We committed to no loudspeakers.
Nick: How do we assure these sidewalks will be built to our City standards?Rachel Keesling: We have inspectors that
go on site to inspect this project as it moves along.
Brad: Have there been any code violations reported on these 96th Street auto dealerships from having their vehicles
displayed in the ROW or in the grass?Rachel Keesling: I'm not aware of any violations.
A Motion made by Rider and seconded by Westermeier to approve PZ-2021-00048 DP/ADLS.
Approved 7-0,absent Hill,Kirsh.
3. Docket No.PZ-2021-00062 OA: Gas Station Setback& Standards Amendment
The applicant seeks to amend the Unified Development Ordinance in order to amend the standards for
Automobile Service Stations and associated definitions.Filed by the Department of Community Services on
behalf of the Carmel Plan Commission.
Petitioner:Adrienne Keeling,Department of Community Services
• This proposes to increase the setback of gas pumps and pump islands from residential zoned and used properties
• The current setback is 80' and this OA proposes to increase the setback to 500'
• Several questions were raised at the public hearing, such as applying this setback to schools,retirement and
nursing facilities,and grocery store gas stations
• We had discussions in how to apply this OA to all of Cannel,including existing PUDs
• Schools,nursing homes, grocery and convenient store gas stations will be protected by this Ordinance
• An applicability paragraph has been added as Subsection A(lines 45-48)to apply the standards to any district in
which a Use Variance is granted
• The standards for setbacks and lighting were placed under a new Subsection B,titled"Standards"
• We specified the under-canopy lighting shall use full cut-off,recessed luminaires with flat lenses to minimize
glare and light trespass
• This does not affect any existing PUD Ordinance, however the 500' setback standard can be incorporated into any
newly proposed PUD
• Staff recommends this is forwarded to the City Council with a favorable recommendation
Commercial Committee Recap,Alan Potasnik:
• Staff did a great job recapping our meetings
ICommittee Comments:
Brad: How do we not include paint stores and charcoal lighter fluid sales in the definition of Storage or Sale of Petroleum
Products in lines 84-85?Adrienne Keeling: We are consolidating the use of fossil fuels and added a new definition of
fossil fuels. Brad: Where does the defmition of Store and Sale of Petroleum Products have significance elsewhere in the
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