HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes COM 07-06-21 Committee Comments:
Alan Potasnik:
• In the Department Report it is mentioned that Engineering and Hamilton County Surveyor Office approval
is needed. Will that be a problem?Rachel Keesling:No.The Surveyors office is releasing their hold on it.
It is not their jurisdiction to govern,and Engineering is always a concern we bring up to remind everyone
that we will continue working through the review process.
Nick Kestner:
• I would still like to see pedestrian access from Randall Dr.Rachel Keesling: I think we could use striping
across the area but with the new sidewalk along Randall Dr.,we have the sidewalk connection which will
go from the building across the drive aisle,add more striping,and then connect to the existing sidewalk that
was installed when the Randall Dr. bypass was installed.Jim Shinaver: We will incorporate some cross
hatch striping on both of those areas for pedestrian safety.Nick Kestner: I know no pedestrian traffic is
planned but you never know.
Kevin Rider:
• I love the connectivity,but sidewalks and trails near trees is the reason I upgraded to suspensions on my
bike.Are we sure the roots from the trees won't tear up the sidewalk?Rachel Keesling: I don't know if we
could ever guarantee that.Kevin Rider: It is a concrete sidewalk or path?Rachel Keesling: Concrete
sidewalk. Kevin Rider: I would like to hear from the Urban Forester that he is confident that the sidewalk
will not be destroyed by the trees. The neighbors even said,"We would rather the trees survive and only
have the sidewalk on the other side."I understand putting a sidewalk on both sides,but unless the Urban
Forester can tell me that he is very confident that the sidewalk will not be destroyed by the trees,I don't
want the sidewalk. Otherwise, it is a waste of money.
• Unloading cars?Is that no longer going to happen on the street?Tim Dament: We are working through
that. Kevin Rider: That is not the answer.Jim Shinaver: The short answer is 'No".Tim Dament: We are
no longer going to unload into the street. Kevin Rider: I am going to come visit you the next time I get a
phone call that there is unloading in the streets. Tim Dament: There is a large distribution channel and there
are thousands of trucking companies and by habit some are unloading on the street. We are catching them as
much as we can to stop this behavior. The new site should help with this as well.Kevin Rider: Do you train
your sales drivers to not drive north?Tim Dament: Yes. I have given my number to the neighboring HOA
for whenever they see the plate back there. The human element is not the one thing I can't control. If they
decide to turn left instead of right.Jim Shinaver: I will email the Department of Community Services
(Staff)and you,Tim's contact information so it is on file.
Jeff motions to forward Docket PZ-2021-00048 to Plan Commission with Favorable Recommendation,Kevin
seconds,motion passes 4-0.
3. Docket No.PZ-2021-00040 DP/ADLS: Mexican Restaurant at Legacy.
The applicant seeks site plan and design approval for a new restaurant. The site is located at 7299 E 146th St.
between Community Drive and Beallsville Drive. It is zoned PUD(Legacy Z-501-07).Filed by Tami Lakes of
Versatile Construction Group,LLC on behalf of Don Rigo Properties LLC.
Petitioners: Trent Baxter(Versatile Construction Group,LLC):
• We feel that we have answered almost all of Staff's comments.
• A variance(PZ-2021-00100 V)was applied for to allow a third sign.It was denied and now we are
proposing to move the sign along Hopewell Pkwy.to where the main entrance is. Staff is in favor of this.
• The only remaining issue is with the light packs illuminating the westside parking lot. There is an existing
light pole there from when the road was built. It is being removed.We are now determining the best way to
light that parking lot without spilling over into the neighbor.
Department Report: Rachel Keesling:
• Three variances were seen at the BZA. Two were approved.The first was for front yard setback(PZ-2021-
00105 V),similar to the Yellow Dog Veterinary Clinic(PZ-2021-00011 DP/ADLS). This building is pulled
a little closer to the street.The parking variance was also approved(PZ-2021-00105 V). They were only
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seven spaces short for the restaurant. Signage was denied,but they are allowed two signs because they have
two Street Frontages.
• Staff still has a concern about the lighting. The petitioner did add the decorative wooden brackets
underneath the gable which adds a level of sophistication to the building design. The wall packs are still
there but they seem to take away from the ambiance that would be created by all of the sconces on the
building. Staff feels there is a different way to light this side of the parking lot because we typically don't
just have down lighting from the building. I propose that we don't install these lights now and if something
were to become an issue in the future with regards to lack of illumination,then we should look at it then.
Maybe it will need to cross over the property lines,which would be commercial to commercial.We would
be supportive of that. Since it is a shared entry,we could maybe relocate the light pole further into the
parking area. I think we could do something else beside the wall pack lights to light up this area. We can
design it to have the appropriate brightness without large lights shinning down into people.It is a shared
entry drive on the west side of the building. We could work with the next property owner over to relocate it.
Trent Baxter: We can do one on the north side landscape island or down on the south side.Our concern
was the foot-candles at the property line. If we are allowed to go over then we would be okay.Rachel
Keesling: Staff can work with you. Trent Baxter: We tried painting the wall packs to match the color of
the building so that they would only standout at night.Rachel Keesling: Maybe we could do less on the
elevation.
• Engineering final approval is still needed.
• Staff recommends approval, subject to the lighting concern and finalizing all the ProjectDox comments.
Committee Comments:
Alan Potasnik:
• Can you address the lighting issue again?Illumination of those wall lights,which I assume were added for a
reason,but I wonder if eliminating those, does that pose a security or safety issue?Trent Baxter: It will be
pretty dark if I eliminate those lights.There will be some sconce lighting but it is not enough. I think once I
am able to go across the property line with more foot-candles than allowed,that should work. Or if I could
work with the neighbor.Kevin Rider: We can get rid of the wall lights if you are allowed to put one or two
pole lights in?Rachel Keesling: The issue is,with the 0.5 foot-candles at the property line.Kevin Rider:
We can work with that. It is commercial and you are not shining it into someone else's living room.Would
it be on at each end?Trent Baxter: Yes.Kevin Rider: Would you be comfortable then without the wall
lighting?Trent Baxter: Absolutely.Kevin Rider: Staff?Rachel Keesling:Yes. If you look at the street
view,there are streetlights along Hopewell Pkwy. They are not on the north side of the site.Kevin Rider:
Are they going to install them on the north side?Rachel Keesling: Yes,as part of their project.
Kevin motions to approve PZ-2021-00040 subject to finalizing the lighting plan and completion of ProjectDox
comments,Jeff seconds,motion passes 4-0.
4. Docket No.PZ-2021-00075 DP/ADLS: Bank of America—The Bridges.
The applicant seeks site plan and design approval for a new bank branch on a new outlot within The Bridges. The
site is generally located at the SW corner of Illinois Street and Zotec Drive,with a planned address of 11530 N.
Illinois Street. It is zoned PUD—The Bridges(Z-550-11). Filed by Jon Sheidler of Woolpert on behalf of JLL.
Petitioners: Jon Sheidler(Woolpert),Brian Ma(JLL),Trent Burchett(Woolpert),Bill Arnold(BoA),Laurie
Pfeiffer(CBRE Property Manager),Kevin Curry(RS&H),&Buzz Weisiger(Gerhman Partners):
Jon Sheidler:
• There was one small addition to signage on the building elevations. Kevin Curry: We added percentages
for signage and the Spandrel Panels to the elevations. We were also asked to add a prairie style detail to the
facade. We chose a prairie flower detail that will be added to the elevations, specifically at each transition
point and adjacent to the signage. The rear of the building looked a little plain, so we added two additional
windows and extended the canopy over them.
• We provided a colored landscape plan(page 10 of the Submitted Packet)to better illustrate what is
proposed.
• The biggest change is removal of eight parking spaces. There are four along the north and four to the south
of the building that were removed. It was asked by us to increase the green space because there is so much
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