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Carmel Plan Commission
RESIDENTIAL COMMITTEE
Tuesday, May 4, 2021 Meeting Minutes
LOCATION: Caucus Rooms,City Hall
Members Present: Christine Zoccola
Carrie Holle
Josh Kirsh—acting Chair
Members Absent: Sue Westermeier-Chair
Staff Present: Alexia Lopez-Planning Administrator
Joe Shestak-Administrative Assistant
Mike Hollibaugh—Director of DOCS
Legal Counsel: Paul Reis
Meeting Time: 6:00 p.m.
1. Docket No.PZ-2021-00070 ADLS Amend: North End Building C Podium Garage Addition
The applicant seeks ADLS Amendment approval to add podium garage parking as the first floor of the building
with the apartments above. The site is located at approximately 827 Rohrer Rd. It is zoned UR/Urban
Residential. Filed by Rebecca McGuckin with Old Town Companies.
Petitioner:Justin Moffett,Old Town Companies
• With me tonight are Rebecca McGuckin and Nick Alexander of Studio M
• We were in the design development phase when this project was previously reviewed for the initial ADLS
approval.We were in the process of trying to eliminate some costs while working out our budget. So,for Building
C,we elected to do all surface parking.We are now determined to find the funds for podium garage parking. We
are seeking permission to change our previous proposal from surface parking to podium garage parking.
• Presented Site Plan,Building C gives us the best option for podium parking
• The podium will stick out mostly out of grade. Staff wanted to bring up the impacts of having a garage sticking
above grade. Our design is taking a building sitting flush with grade and we are proposing lifting that floor up a
level with parking below it.Our goal is to hide the parked cars from the street front with a landscaped buffer. This
is an area you would not typically see a store front.
• We have a requirement for a 10' width path and the planting strip is only 6' in width. We did not find ROW that
is consistent along this stretch. We have included the Carmel Engineer,Jeremy Kashman in our conversations for
this request.
• We ask if we can have a 6' path instead of the 10' path
• We can bend the road into the original alignment
• We ask for suggestions for more landscaping or more masonry since there won't be visible store front and the
podium will be hiding the parked cars
IDepartment Report:Alexia Lopez:
• The ADLS,PP, SP were previously approved for this site.This proposal is just an amendment for Building C.
• The only site changes are to remove the perpendicular parking on the northside of the road and add an entrance to
the garage at the northside of Building C
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• They will meet the minimum requirement for the amount of parking spaces. There's no net decrease in parking.
• We asked them to move the path to the northside of North End Blvd., since that was originally shown on the
approved PP. They did not receive ROW permission from the State Highway Dept.to have the path and
landscaping on the northside of the road. So,they moved the path to the southside of the road. Staff wants to
know if they can move the path back to the northside since they are removing that strip of parking spaces.Justin
Moffett: We do not have ROW that is consistent from end to end. We do not have enough ROW to accomplish a
continuous stretch of the path,refers to site plan.
• We ask the Petitioner to enlarge the openings in the garage to resemble more of a storefront and further break up
the first floor
• Additional landscaping along the building base in providing some taller species of plants and some evergreen
species that will nice even during the winter months
• Staff would like to hear the Committee's feedback on the landscaping and architecture
Committee Comments:
Carrie: A great suggestion I received from another development would be having a living wall. The plants would be
attached,easy to maintain,and ventilation would still be possible. It would not take up any additional ground space.
Justin Moffett: I like this idea on the southside of the building.I would have to ask our Landscape Architect about what
our options are. Carrie: Irrigation would have to be installed. Justin Moffett: The primary goal is to obtain more space
for ornamental trees. I would want green for all year long for the base of the building.Josh: I agree with the Committee's
comments on the landscaping. I love a living wall,but I don't think it's practical.Ornamental and arborvitae trees are
going to work. I'm willing to move to approve tonight if the Petitioner can work with the City's Urban Forester on the
landscape plan. Christine: I agree with all landscaping comments to enhance this area.
Christine: Does this request eliminate the surface parking?Justin Moffett:Refers to Site Plan, it would eliminate one
row of surface parking.It's a wash for the number of spaces added compared to what we are removing.Josh: Can you
place some of the street parking spaces to diagonal to gain some space?Justin Moffett: We had this conversation with
Carmel Engineering. They want them at 90 degrees.We need to have proper amount of space for the ability for people to
maneuver their cars in and out of these spaces.Josh: Did the 6' sidewalk path get eliminated on this side of the street?
Justin Moffett: Correct,we just have the 10' multi-use path and the landscaping strip.
A Motion made by Kirsh and seconded by Holle to approve Docket No.PZ-2021-00070 ADLS Amend subject to
final approval of the Landscape Plan for Building C. Approved 3-0,absent Westermeier.
2. Docket No.PZ-2021-00013 DP: Ambleside Point Subdivision Development Plan.
The applicant seeks Development Plan approval for 256 lots on 60.4 acres. The site is located at 2135 W 146th
Street. It is zoned Ambleside Point PUD/Planned Unit Development(Z-659-20). Filed by Jim Shinaver and Jon
Dobosiewicz of Nelson and Frankenberger on behalf of Hoffman Developer,LLC.
3. Docket No.PZ-2021-00032 ADLS: Ambleside Point Townhomes.
The applicant seeks ADLS approval for 130 new townhomes on 60.4 acres. The site is located at 2135 W 146th
Street It is zoned Ambleside Point PUD/Planned Unit Development(Z-659-20). Filed by Jim Shinaver and Jon
Dobosiewicz of Nelson and Frankenberger on behalf of Hoffman Developer,LLC.
Petitioner:Jon Dobosiewicz:
• With me tonight are Jim Shinaver, Tim Walter, Rex Ramage, Steve Pittman,Kyle Eichhorn
• Passed out Exhibits of updated DP
• We are extending the sidewalk along the 146th frontage road to our property lines,shown in yellow in exhibit
• The speed table will remain at Megan Drive
• We have added 3 crosswalks on Mauldin Street to connect the pedestrian paths
• We have provided a TPA exhibit,along the west,east,and south perimeters of the site
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• We have provided an updated landscape plan that show 4 additional trees on the rear lots that are adjacent to
Saddle Creek(SC). We will also be providing additional trees on the eastern perimeter lots in SC.
• The two signs at the entrances are now shown out of the easement. The details of the entrance signs are provided.
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