HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes RES 05-04-21 • They will meet the minimum requirement for the amount of parking spaces. There's no net decrease in parking.
• We asked them to move the path to the northside of North End Blvd., since that was originally shown on the
approved PP. They did not receive ROW permission from the State Highway Dept.to have the path and
landscaping on the northside of the road. So,they moved the path to the southside of the road. Staff wants to
know if they can move the path back to the northside since they are removing that strip of parking spaces.Justin
Moffett: We do not have ROW that is consistent from end to end. We do not have enough ROW to accomplish a
continuous stretch of the path,refers to site plan.
• We ask the Petitioner to enlarge the openings in the garage to resemble more of a storefront and further break up
the first floor
• Additional landscaping along the building base in providing some taller species of plants and some evergreen
species that will nice even during the winter months
• Staff would like to hear the Committee's feedback on the landscaping and architecture
Committee Comments:
Carrie: A great suggestion I received from another development would be having a living wall. The plants would be
attached,easy to maintain,and ventilation would still be possible. It would not take up any additional ground space.
Justin Moffett: I like this idea on the southside of the building.I would have to ask our Landscape Architect about what
our options are. Carrie: Irrigation would have to be installed. Justin Moffett: The primary goal is to obtain more space
for ornamental trees. I would want green for all year long for the base of the building.Josh: I agree with the Committee's
comments on the landscaping. I love a living wall,but I don't think it's practical.Ornamental and arborvitae trees are
going to work. I'm willing to move to approve tonight if the Petitioner can work with the City's Urban Forester on the
landscape plan. Christine: I agree with all landscaping comments to enhance this area.
Christine: Does this request eliminate the surface parking?Justin Moffett:Refers to Site Plan, it would eliminate one
row of surface parking.It's a wash for the number of spaces added compared to what we are removing.Josh: Can you
place some of the street parking spaces to diagonal to gain some space?Justin Moffett: We had this conversation with
Carmel Engineering. They want them at 90 degrees.We need to have proper amount of space for the ability for people to
maneuver their cars in and out of these spaces.Josh: Did the 6' sidewalk path get eliminated on this side of the street?
Justin Moffett: Correct,we just have the 10' multi-use path and the landscaping strip.
A Motion made by Kirsh and seconded by Holle to approve Docket No.PZ-2021-00070 ADLS Amend subject to
final approval of the Landscape Plan for Building C. Approved 3-0,absent Westermeier.
2. Docket No.PZ-2021-00013 DP: Ambleside Point Subdivision Development Plan.
The applicant seeks Development Plan approval for 256 lots on 60.4 acres. The site is located at 2135 W 146th
Street. It is zoned Ambleside Point PUD/Planned Unit Development(Z-659-20). Filed by Jim Shinaver and Jon
Dobosiewicz of Nelson and Frankenberger on behalf of Hoffman Developer,LLC.
3. Docket No.PZ-2021-00032 ADLS: Ambleside Point Townhomes.
The applicant seeks ADLS approval for 130 new townhomes on 60.4 acres. The site is located at 2135 W 146th
Street It is zoned Ambleside Point PUD/Planned Unit Development(Z-659-20). Filed by Jim Shinaver and Jon
Dobosiewicz of Nelson and Frankenberger on behalf of Hoffman Developer,LLC.
Petitioner:Jon Dobosiewicz:
• With me tonight are Jim Shinaver, Tim Walter, Rex Ramage, Steve Pittman,Kyle Eichhorn
• Passed out Exhibits of updated DP
• We are extending the sidewalk along the 146th frontage road to our property lines,shown in yellow in exhibit
• The speed table will remain at Megan Drive
• We have added 3 crosswalks on Mauldin Street to connect the pedestrian paths
• We have provided a TPA exhibit,along the west,east,and south perimeters of the site
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• We have provided an updated landscape plan that show 4 additional trees on the rear lots that are adjacent to
Saddle Creek(SC). We will also be providing additional trees on the eastern perimeter lots in SC.
• The two signs at the entrances are now shown out of the easement. The details of the entrance signs are provided.
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• Landscaping will be installed during Phase I of the construction
• We received a few comments during the PC meeting about the ADLS about the trim requirements on the
windows,the alignment of windows, and architecture elevations
• We have updated the side elevations adjacent to the common areas and the ROWs that now show added masonry,
4-sided trim,and headers on the windows.
• In the bathroom,the buyer will have the option of either a transcend window or a real window
• Presented Site Plan, the townhome units facing 146th will have enhanced features on the elevations
• Pulte Homes stated they have buyers with kids who do not care for enhanced landscaping placed between the
open space of the townhome units. These buyers prefer an open space between the units with minimum
landscaping requirements so it's more open for the kids to play in.
• We will agree to install 39 bicycle parking spaces
• The mailboxes will be located in a gang box style with bike parking next to it
• We will meet the PUD ordinance requirement of the masonry requirements
• We are asking for smoke/darked out glass under the dormers
• The A/C units will be screened by landscaping,a minimum of two shrubs per unit
• The exhibits and details of the gang mailboxes and bicycle parking are not located in our site plan yet but will be
included in our next filing
Kyle Eichhorn,Engineer
• The legal drain/ditch exists in the middle of the southern pond,and that is where it discharges into the pond in SC
• We will not disturb the legal drain or its outlet in Phase I
• During Phase II,the legal drain will be removed,and an additional pipe will be installed to take in all the
additional drainage
• The drainage will improve since we are developing half our site and retaining half of our site. The discharge rate
into the SC detention pond will not increase.
Department Report: Alexia Lopez:
• They have addressed extending the sidewalk along 146th frontage road, enlarging the TPA easement,showing the
required trees in the rear lots along the eastern perimeter,and removing the entrance signage out of the ROW
• The PUD asks for native plantings around the ponds,will it be showed on the landscape plan?
• The sidewalk on Beaument Blvd is not connecting to the sidewalk on Maudlin St. We want this shown on the DP.
• Cannel Engineering does have concerns about the fundamental design approach for the drainage system. They've
communicated this to the Petitioner and requested them to construct the drainage in phases.This includes the
master drainage plan demonstrating the drainage consultant's concerns have been addressed,phase construction
plan showing each section of the southern pond and how it will be constructed,and phase 1 drainage report
demonstrating phase 1 detention is adequate if it stands alone.They will want to see this addressed before full PC.
• Phase I currently shows the entire pond, is this correct?Kyle Eichhorn:No. We will revise our plans to show the
difference of the construction of the ponds in each phase.
• They addressed the window treatment,and two windows per floor on each visible facade
• Staff will need to show where the mailboxes and bike parking are shown on the site plan
• Staff would like to see clear glazed windows that are under the dormers instead of a smoke/darken window
• We would like to see mulch and landscaping between the driveways instead of just river rock
• We are asking for a front porch option on some of the units
• We would like to see some fountains,hardscape, landscape,artwork,and benches along the pedestrian paths
• Staff is comfortable with forwarding the DP to PC,but having the Townhome ADLS stay at Committee
Committee Comments:
Christine: Is the TPA along the western perimeter wide enough for our standards? Alexia Lopez: Yes,the plans have
been updated and the landscape easement is now wide enough. Christine: During the PUD hearings, it was brought to our
attention that there would be two football field sized common areas. Since the pond has been added,how much
Igreenspace/common area is now being proposed between the townhome units?I want to make sure there's enough space
for the kids to play in. Tim Walter: The pond in the middle of the development was always shown in our plans. It now
covers 3 more lots than it used to. So,we've taken away 150'.Christine: Can the areas around the townhome section be
enhanced with more landscaping?Your plans currently just show two shrubs around the A/C units,and just river rock
between the driveways. Jon Dobosiewicz: We can look into this and bring some options to the next Committee meeting.
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Carrie: I'm not a fan of the rear elevations of the townhomes. Can we see more wainscotting and masonry?Can we see
1"floor brick wraps for all the units,and not just the exterior units?It will give it more character.Rex Ramage: We can
take a look at this and bring you some options. Carrie: I think the smokey and darked glazed glass is spooky and does not
fit in.I would like to see a clear window under the dormers and not a glazed window. I agree with Christine with more
landscaping and trees in the open space areas between the townhome units. I would guess there would be more
townhomes without children then with children, so I would want to see more trees than open space.
Josh: I want to have bike parking,but what really makes sense?I don't like having all 30 bike parking spots at one
location. Can you break the mold and find out how bike parking really works?Have bike parking at different locations
and in front of the townhomes. Having 30 bike parking by the mailboxes meets the requirement but will not solve the
problem. I want to see improvements to the elevations,as stated by my fellow Committee members. Can you identify the
unique playground equipment?Steve Pittman: More equipment is coming,but we will just identify the unique pieces.
We will have to wow the marketplace,so we will try our best to bring in some unique equipment.Josh: Will the
pedestrian paths connect to the existing path network of the adjacent neighborhoods?Tim Walter: We will connect to the
existing paths that surround our development.Josh: Can someone explain the native plants that will be used around and
in the ponds?Tim Walter: We will work with John Thomas of the Cannel Engineering Dept. and take in his suggestions.
Josh: Have you considered to let the grass naturally grow around the ponds?Work with John Thomas on his suggestions.
Josh: Can we discuss front porches on the townhome product?Rex Ramage: These townhomes are not designed to have
front porches. It's just not an option.We can explore the fronts and overhangs.Josh: Can your development preinstall
internet conduits?Explore this option. When a new internet provider comes to an established neighborhood,they rip and
mess everything up to install their conduit. Steve Pittman: If we could reduce our front yard setback to 5'then we don't
have to worry about this.We are required to provide utility easements.There are legality issues involved.Jim Shinaver:
We would have to bring this in front of City Council to examine it. Federal regulations would be involved. Tim Walter:
We can add underground duct banks,for multiple conduits. The thing is they need their own equipment and transformer
above grade.Josh: In the lawn alleys between the townhome units,these will become areas littered with dog poop.
Consider adding dog dropping collection bags or hire a service to clean it up.
A Motion made by Zoccola and seconded by Holle to forward PZ-2021-00013 DP to the full Plan Commission with
a favorable recommendation contingent upon Engineering approval. Approved 3-0,absent Westermeier
PZ-2021-00032 ADLS will continue to the June 1st Residential Committee meeting.
4. Docket No.PZ-2021-00036 PUD: Bedford Falls PUD Rezone.
The applicant seeks PUD rezone approval for a new subdivision consisting of single-family detached residential.
The site is located at 947 W 146th St. on approximately 16.87 acres. It is currently zoned S-1 and R-3/Residential.
Filed by Steven Hardin of Faegre Drinker Biddle&Reath,on behalf of Less Impact Development.
Petitioner: Steve Hardin:
• With me tonight are Mark Leach- land planner, Scott Schutz,and Stan Schutz-the developers
• We have had continued discussions with the adjacent neighbors about their concerns of the onsite drainage.We
will be improving the drainage with the development of this site
• The redlined changes and updated PUD was distributed to the PC members and Staff
• We received a letter of support from the adjacent West Chase subdivision
• We agreed to remove the existing farm fence along the perimeter of this site
• We have agreed to connect to the existing pedestrian trail from West Chase to our pedestrian trail
• There are 4 floor plans and 3 elevations to select from
• A parking area has now been added for the community clubhouse
• We have added the specific locations for our streetlights and those are shown on the site plan
• The community clubhouse elevations have been updated
Department Report: Alexia Lopez:
• The Petitioner have made the changes we requested at the PC meeting
• The developer confirmed that the color palate is now available for all elevations
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