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Home My WebLink AboutCCM-07-02-79 MINUTES OF CITY COUNCIL MEETING July 2, 1979 The regular meeting of the City Council was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Mayor Pickett who presided. All council members and Clerk- ~reasurer were present. City Attorney was not present. Councilwoman Doane gave the invocation. Mayor Pickett led the pledge of allegiance. Councilman Meacham moved to approve the minutes of the last regular meeting, Councilman Horvath seconded it and it passed unanimously. OLD BUSINESS : AGENDA ITEM #1 RE PORT FROM COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN : Councilman Garretson reviewed the memo he had passed out regarding City building site study as attached to original minutes. When the report from the architect is finished he will call a meeting. Councilman Swift stated a meeting of the budget Committee would be held Thursday, July 5 at 7:30 p.m. Mr. Fred Hohl passed out a memo regarding additional outlets from Carmel Knoll/ Inngate Apartment Complex located west of L & N Railroad and North of West Main Street as attached to original minutes. Mr. Hohl stated there was no happy solution to coming up with another exit out of the complex. He stated the 4th Street alternate appears to be the most logical. Councilman Garretson stated this would be a Board of Works decision and if additional money needed to be appropriated then it should be brought to the council. Mr. Charles Morrow was present and stated there was a real problem on Meadow Lane with the traffic burden and he urged the City to check the traffic with a traffic Counter. Mayor Pickett stated all streets in Carmel have increased their traffic load. He stated a traffic survey is getting underway and all these things will be considered. AGENDA ITEM #2: SECOND READING STOP SIGN ORDINANCE #DL215 : Mayor Pickett read stop sign Ordinance 215 by title. Ordinance had been introduced at last meeting. Councilman Meacham moved to approve proposed ordinance, Councilman Garretson seconded it and it passed 6-1. Councilman Horvath voting nay. AGENDA ITEM #3: FARM BUREAU PROPERTY : At the recommendation of City Engineer, Mr. Hohl, Councilman Garretson moved that the Mayor be authorized to issue a letter of committment for a purchase price of $110,000.00 to Farm Bureau with the understanding that we be allowed a period of up to six months to wind our way through the payments. Councilman Meacham seconded it and it passed unanimously. NEW BUSINESS : AGENDA ITEM #1: PUBLIC HEARING-ORDINANCE #D-216 : Mayor Pickett opened public hearing for purpose o£ passing ordinance #D-216 authorizing expenditures totaling $325,000.00 from Revenue Sharing and Cumulative Capital Improvement Fund. Mayor Pickett read proposed ordinance. Councilman Garretson stated he didn't believe the City could hope to retrieve the money from the re sale of the building that we were going to put in it. He stated further that to the best of his knowledge they would be clearly in violation of 7/2/79 the City's zoning codes in that for City office buildings there should be one parking spot for every 125 feet and he believed we would have to have 53 parking spaces on that site for the size of expansion we were planning and he felt we would be 15 or 20 short of that. He stated he felt the police department needed more space but he didn't think we should correct one wrong by doing another. Councilman Coots stated he didn't believe - - the zoning codes counted basement footage for parking space needs. Councilman Horvath read from a publication stating conversions were less expensive than new building. Police Commissioner requested a report on the Board of Works public hearing. Clerk-Treasurer stated a public hearing was held. There were 21 people present and 21 people were in agreement the Revenue Sharing funds should be spent on expansion of police facilities. Mr. Ted Johnson of Concord Lane was present and stated he didn't believe a thorough examination of temporary facilities had been made but he did agree that the police department was in immediate need of additional facilities. Mr. Jim Smith stated he would like to go on record as favoring using the funds available for this project rather than go to a bond issue. Police Commissioner Murphy stated they did consider a modular structure but that in no way met the minimum security required. Mr. Richard Peet, Gray Road, sales associate with a Carmel real estate firm, stated he was for the expansion but in no way did he believe the City would get their investment back. Mayor Pickett closed the public hearing. Councilwoman Doane moved for adoption of proposed ordinance, Councilwoman Reiman seconded it. Councilman Meacham moved to suspend the rules, Councilman Horvath seconded it. Motion to suspend the rules failed. 6 ayes, 1 nay. Councilman Garretson voting nay. Ordinance was shown as being introduced. AGENDA ITEM #2: TRANSFER FUMDS ORDINANCE #B-145 : Mayor Pickett read proposed ordinance B-145 transferring funds within the MVH and Plan Comm;ssion budgets. Fire Chief Swails requested the council to add a transfer from his department but Councilman Garretson suggested he wait until next meeting. Councilman Coots moved to adopt proposed ordinance, Councilman Meacham seconded it. Councilman Meacham moved to suspend the rules, Councilman Coots seconded it and it passed unanimously. Motion to adopt passed unanimously. Meeting was recessed at 8:50 p.m. Meeting was re-convened at 8:55 p.m. AGENDA ITEM #3: ADOPTION ON ZONE MAP: Proposed ordinance #Z-159 was read by Mayor Pickett which includes a new zoning map for Clay Township. Councilman Coots moved for adoption, Councilman Horvath seconded it. Ordinance was shown as being introduced. ADDED ITEMS : Councilman Meacham stated it had been brought to his attention over the week-end that the people we had picking up the trash for the City quit and John Brunson has been picking it up. Mayor Pickett stated he was aware of the situation. The company has not been discharged and Mr. Brunson has taken it upon himself to empty the barrels. Councilman Coots stated he had received numerous inquires regarding use of real estate in Keystone Square Shopping Center. There is presently nothing prohibiting commercial usage in a temporary fashion. He suggested pre paring an ordinance requiring licensi ng or Board approval for such usage. Dottie Smith, representing the Chamber, suggested working with the Chamber before preparing the ordinance. Page 3 7/2/79 There being no further business the meeting was adjourned at 9:15 p.m. Approved: OFFICE OF THE CITY ENGINEER July 2, 1979 Memo to: Mayor Pickett and City Council Members From: Fred Hohl, City Engineer Subject: Additional outlet from Carmel Knoll/Inngate Apartment Complex located West of L & N Railroad and North of West Main Street. I have done some preliminary investigation of the question of providing another street outlet in this area. There are pos- sibilities. Scheme I. Extend 4th Street N.W., East across the L & N Railroad to 1st Avenue N.W. Advantages - Shortest route, requires about 450 ft of new road . Disadvantages - Will require deep fill on East side of Rail road. The street R/W East of the Railroad is only about 30 ft. More R/W would be required. The existing pavements and drives appear to be off center at present and there are houses built very close to the existing R/W. It is very un likely that the Railroad and Public Service Commission will permit the crossing, particularly, since it is certain one or more residents will remonstrate against this crossing and street extension. This extension would encourage the most use of any proposal and therefore will create a significant traf fic increase on 1st Ave N.W. (a poor street for heavy traffic) and on 4th Street which has no traffic. Scheme II. Extend Meadow Lane about loo ft North, then West 200 to 600 ft and thence South 1400 ft for a total of 1700 to 2100 ft of new road, exiting on W. Main Street 200 to 600 ft West of Meadow Lane. Advantages - Traffic exits on a fairly good road. Disadvantages - Longest route, all R/W would have to be purchas- ed, probably would not encourage much change in traffic pattern Definitely not recornmened. page 2 of 2. Scheme III . Extend Lark Drive 860 feet straight North to Smokey Row Road (~th Street or 136th Street). Advantages - Second shortest route, would lie on apparent P/L between two undeveloped tracts of ground. Would create less traffic problem than 4th Street scheme. Would probably en- courage change in traffic pattern in project. Disadvantages-AlliR/W would have to be obtained. R/W would go through heavy woods. R/W would be outside City at present, which would probably require county to build road. Smokey Row Road is narrow and in poor condition. Road would exit .50 feet West of a bridge which would probably require re construction of bridge to provide adequate visibility and safety. Might encourage excessive through traffic in the project if any population growth occurs in vicinity of Smokey Row Road. Recommendations The route to Smokey Row Road is probably the best choice if all obstacles could be overcome. None of the choices are totally attractive. If a connection can not be found and/or in the inter- im, I would suggest strongly, that parking on all streets in the project be limited to one side only. A traffic study might also be in order at the entrance to determine if any type of traffic control device would be warranted and effective. (Should be done in conjuction with a study at Guilford and West Main Street). Thank you, Fred Hohl City Engineer FH/dlc