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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes PC 11-16-21 G>��kitTNEks \ NCity of C 1 DIA� CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION NOVEMBER 16, 2021 1 MEETING MINUTES Location: Council Chambers Room,2nd Floor,Cannel City Hall Members Present: Jeff Hill,Nick Kestner,Joshua Kirsh,Alan Potasnik(Vice President,acting Chair), Kevin Rider, Sue Westermeier,Christine Zoccola Members Absent: Carrie Holle,Brad Grabow(President) Staff Present: Mike Hollibaugh,Alexia Lopez,Rachel Keesling,Joe Shestak Legal Counsel: Sergey Grechukhin,Jon Oberlander Time of Meeting: 6:00 PM Declaration of Quorum:Vice President Potasnik: 7 members present,we have a Quorum Approval of Meeting Minutes: A Motion made by Kirsh and seconded by Rider to approve the Oct. 19,2021 PC meeting minutes.Approved 7-0,absent Grabow,Holle. Communications,Bills,Expenditures,&Legal Counsel Report 1. Council Resolution CC-11-01-21-01: Sergey Grechukhin: This CC Resolution directs the Plan Commission to prepare and hold a public hearing regarding an amendment to the Village of West Clay PUD ordinance. 2. Plan Commission Resolution PC-11-16-21-a: Bruce Donaldson, Barnes&Thornburg LLP: CRC Resolution 2021-21 proposes to amend the Declaratory Resolution and Development Plan for the Old Town Economic Development Area to 1)remove an area from the Smoky Row and Monon Allocation Area,2)designate this area as a separate allocation area to be known as the"Smoky Row and Monon Phase II Allocation Area,"3)remove a parcel from the Smoky Row and Monon Allocation Area,and 4)adopt a supplement to the Plan. A Motion made by Rider and seconded by Kirsh to adopt PC Resolution PC-11-16-21-a. Approved 7-0,absent Grabow, Rolle. Reports,Announcements&Department Concerns: Rachel Keesling,Dept.of Community Services: • Suspension of Rules needed regarding public notice in the paper for agenda items Guidepost Montessori and Artistic Composite Pallets since 14 days' notice was only provided instead of full 21 days due to Staffs error. A Motion by Kirsh and seconded by Rider to suspend the Rules of Procedure. Approved 7-0,absent Grabow,Holle. • Outcome of Projects at Committees: Rachel Keesling: a. Commercial: Cancelled due to no items to review b. Residential: Cancelled due to no items to review c. Comp Plan Review Committee: Discussed then continued to Nov.29th Committee Meeting Rachel Keesling: The Dec. 7th Commercial Committee will start at 5:30pm, since the Comp Plan Review Committee will be meeting at 6pm. Public Hearings: 1. TABLED TO DEC. 21 -Docket No.PZ-2021-00160 CA: W.Main St.Block C2,Commitment Amend. 2. Docket No.PZ-2021-00164 DP/ADLS: Guidepost Montessori. The applicant seeks site plan and design for a new daycare facility. The site is located at 10216 North Michigan Road within West Cannel Commons Subdivision,Lot 3. It is zoned B-2/Business and located within the US 421 Overlay Zone(original development 11120029 DP/PP). Filed by Chris Homey of Murphy Real Estate Services. 1 Plan Commission Meeting Minutes 11-16-21 Petitioner: Chris Homey: • Murphy Real Estate services is a National Real Estate Commercial Developer • There are 90 Guidepost Montessori's located around the country • The existing Montessori facility in Fishers is very similar to the one we are proposing here in Cannel • 10,700 sq. ft.,9 classroom facility on a 1.6 acre behind the Outback and First Merchant's Bank on Michigan Road • Presented an aerial view and site plan • Access will be from Retail Pkwy,through the rear parking lot of Merchant's Bank. We do not have direct access to our site. We have talked to both owners of the Outback and Merchant's Bank about using the rear of their parking lot/property. • Operating hours are lam to 6pm. Class starts at 9:15am. The school day ends at 3:30pm,and pickup is available till 6pm. We won't see a large pickup and drop-off rush like traditional schools, since the times are flexible. • 41 parking spaces will be available on site • Presented colored elevations, materials will consist primary of masonry and hardboard offsets • The owners are signing a 20-year building lease Public Comments: None Department Report:Rachel Keesling: • This new daycare facility will take the last available parcel of the West Cannel Commons subdivision • Access will be through the existing curb cut from the Merchant's Bank site. Staff will need to discuss with the Petitioner about making any access changes to the existing stub streets. • RCI owns the land to the west and adjacent to this parcel,so the Petitioner cannot continue the access road • The Petitioner will connect to the existing asphalt path along the access road and provide 6 bike parking spaces • The building design is reflective of the Georgian Style,with decorative columns,window design,and cornice ascents. It will be constructed of brick and stone,with decorative lighting on the building. • All lighting requirements meet the UDO's requirements and limits • There's space for a sign on the existing ground sign off of Michigan Road • Staff needs the lot coverage percentage calculated,and a variance is needed for the building height. The min. height allowed is 20',and they are proposing 16'. • Staff recommends this is forwarded to the Dec. 7 Commercial Committee for further review and final voting authority Committee Comments: Nick: Will the parents be required to go inside to pick up their kids or will they drop-off and pick up at the entrance? Chris Homey: Yes,the parents will be required to go inside to drop off and pick up their kids. They will have to park and walk inside to check in and get their kids. Nick: What are the actual widths of the paths?Can you show them on the site plan? Chris Horney: Yes, we can show the 10-ft wide path labeled on the site plans. Jeff: Are we impacting any of the required landscaping along the Outback property?Chris Homey: We can make certain we bring them back to compliance if any landscaping area is lost. Josh: Can Staff see if the asphalt path can be installed on RCI's property instead of taking down any existing trees?Can this access road extend any farther west?Rachel Keesling: It's in the City's Thoroughfare Plan to have this road(Retail Pkwy)extend west to Mayflower Park Drive but RCI owns the property. Alan: Do each of the classrooms in the rear have access to outside?Chris Homey: Yes,each classroom has an access door to the outside. There will be a fence that will enclose their outside area.Alan: Can you bring an exhibit of how the fence will look like?I have concerns that the kids can run outside the access door and get through the fence.Chris Homey: We will bring in pictures of the actual fence.The Indiana Health Department regulates what type,height, and spacing of the fence we can have installed. Christine: How will the parking lot entrance look so that parents will need to know where to go,since they are driving through another parking lot. I want to make sure it's wide enough. Chris Homey:Shows the aerial view of the site and 2 Plan Commission Meeting Minutes 11-16-21 parking lot. It will be a traditional two-lane,25' wide entrance. Jeff: If the access road does get extended in the future,will there be enough room to do so?Chris Homey: We don't Iknow what the future holds with RCI's property. We prefer to have a direct connection to the access street. A Motion made by Hill and seconded by Kirsh to forward PZ-2021-00164 DP/ADLS to the Dec.7 Commercial Committee with them having final voting authority. Approved 7-0,absent Grabow,Holle. Kevin: I would make a motion to reorder the agenda to hear the VOWC Ordinance Amendment next,instead of last,since all the people in attendance at tonight's meeting are here for this item. Seconded by Hill. Approved 7-0,absent Grabow,Holle. 3. Docket No.PZ-2021-00191 OA:Village of WestClay Ordinance Amendment. The applicant seeks to amend Z-330-98,the Village of WestClay(VOWC)Planned Unit Development(PUD) District,as amended to remove the sale of gasoline and other petroleum products as a principal permitted use within the district.Filed by the Department of Community Services on behalf of the Cannel Plan Commission per Council Resolution CC-11-01-21-01. Kevin: The City Council would like to take the 20-year-old VOWC PUD and apply the new Unified Development Ordinance(UDO)standards to the VOWC PUD.The petitioner for the proposed VOWC gas station is vested in their development.Anything we vote on here will not affect a future gas station. The City Council are asking the Plan Commission not to pursue excluding a use out of their PUD,but to apply the current UDO. Petitioner: Jon Oberlander,City of Carmel,Corporation Counsel: • The alternative version of this Amendment applies the 500' setbacks for gas station fuel pumps and would apply to the VOWC PUD. • Since we are using an alternative version,then what was submitted in the packet,I will read it into record: Section 15.15 of the WestClay PUD, as amended, is hereby amended to read as follows: 15.15 Where gasoline II sales are permitted,pumps and light standards may be located in any yard,provided that the pumps,pump islands and vent pipes for underground storage tanks meet the five hundred(500)foot setback from residentially used property as required by the use-specific standards for automobile service stations in Ordinance Z-669-21. Sergey Grechukhin,Plan Commission Legal Counsel: Just to be clear,the request is to apply a portion of the UDO as it relates to the setback and not the entire UDO to the PUD. Jon Oberlander: Yes,that is correct. It wouldn't be the entire UDO,just the setback requirements for a gas station. Alan: How many people wish to speak during the public hearing? 7 people raised their hands. We will allow 3 minutes for each speaker,where 20 minutes total is allowed for a public hearing in front of the Plan Commission. Public Comments: Sebastian Zavoian,VOWC resident: In support. I'm concern of the health and safety implications of the gas station near to a neighborhood.Children should not be allowed to play around a gas station. Lisa Fletcher,VOWC resident: In support. I would like to speak on behalf of Dr. Heather Misra. The City recognized the health risks imposed by gas stations,and recently passed a 500' setback of gas pumps from residential properties. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Please protect Cannel residents. Kevin Fletcher,VOWC resident: We ask for your support of this PUD amendment. We have spoken to the most vulnerable residents who couldn't attend this evening.The gas station was part of the original PUD plans. This PUD is over 20 years old,and there's more studies out now about the harmful effects of gasoline sales.This proposed gas station is less than 60 ft from The Stratford, 700 ft from the Primrose School,and 300 ft from residential homes. Ilene Smith,VOWC resident: We are asking you to amend the PUD to reflect the recent ordinance amendment passed by the CC. A gas station was listed in the original plans 20 years ago.Research now tells of the dangers of gasoline fumes. Eric Mora,VOWC resident: In support. Local traffic patterns would change,and traffic would increase with this gas station and location. WestClay elementary is nearby,and the majority of the kids walk and bike to this school due to the shortage of bus drivers.The last thing that anybody wants is a child getting hit by a car. 3 Plan Commission Meeting Minutes 11-16-21