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CITY COUNCIL MEETING
NOVEMBER 6 1981
The meeting of the City Cbuncil was called to ordex by Mayor
Reiman at 7:3n P.M. on November 16, 1981. Council members Kerr,
Shepherd, Walker, Johnson, McMullen, Fleming and Garretson were
present. Also present was City Attorney, Mike Howard and Asst.
Clerk-Treasurer.
Mr. Garretson asked that the Clerk-Treasurer listen to the tapes
concerning the item on 116th St. & Meridian Expansion he had
asked tabled indefinitely rather than to the Nove. 16th meeting.
Mr. Garretson made a motion to approve the minutes of the
November 2, 1981. Motion seconded by Mr. Fleming and passed
unanimously.
Mayor Reiman announced that the items for rezone on Carmel
Research and Devolopment Park and Tutweiler Cadilac had been
withdrawn from the agenda. Mr. Johnson read a letter from Leroy
K. New, Atty, representing Carmel Research & Development Park
asking for withdrawal.
New Business
Transfer of Funds - Fire Dept. - Mr. Johnson made a motion to
introduce Ordinance B-206, Transfer of Funds for Fire Dept.
Motion seconded by Mrs. McMullen. Mr. Garretson stated he had a
problem with the transfers, in that purchases were made before a
request was submitted for transfer. Chief Swails spoke to the
Council and explained some of his advance purchases were made
becau.se of roofing problems at Station #3 that had to be
repaired immediately. He went on to say that Some other purchases
that would normally have gone under the Go Bond, were handled in
his budget Mr. Garretson made a motion to delete the transfers in
the Fire Dept. from 1-132 Overtime to 5-51 Insurance; 2-213
Traveling Expense to 5-51 Insuranse; 2-264 Copy Machine to 5-51
Insurance; 5-54 Clothing Allow. to 5-51 Insurance and 5-58 Auto
Allow. to 5-51 Insurance totaling $3300.no. Motion seconded by
Mr. Shepherd. Mr. Garretson made a motion to suspend the rules
and act on Ordinance B-206 as amended. Motion seconded by Mr.
Johnson. Vote was taken on amended Ordinance B-206 which passed
unanimously.
Old Business
Ordinance Z-180 - Frye Rezone - Mr. Garretson made note that the
property in question was surrounded by residential zones and that
it would be his intention not to vote for the rezone. Mrs. Kerr
felt a domino effect would develop and that it would not be
appropriate to vote for the rezone. Mrs. McMullen stated even
though her vote was cast the other way in the Plan Cbmmission,
she felt that she would have to change and vote against the
rezone. Mr. Walker stated his vote would be against the rezone.
Mr. Johnson made a call for the question. Vote was taken on
Ordinance Z-180 which failed on a vote of 0-7.
Mayor Reiman stated that Rangeline Road was not built at that
point to accommodate business and when Clyde E. Williams layed
out plans several years ago for Rangeline Road, it has to
accommodate right and left turn lanes. Mayor Reiman asked that
this be a part of the record.
New Business
Public Hearing - Ordinance Z-183 - Smokey Row Road Rezone - Mr.
Walker made a motion to introduce Ordinance Z-183. Motion
seconded by Mr. Johnson. Mrs. McMullen made a motion to waive
the reading of same. Motion seconded by Mr. Shepherd and passed
unanimDusly. Mr. E. Davis Coots, attorney for the petitioner
spoke to the Council.
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He explained this piece of property in question is a 10 acre tract
located at the northwest corner of Smokey Row Road or 136th St. Mr.
Coots stated the proposed rezone is to R-4 for multi-family unit
dwellings of 10,000 Sq.Ft. lots. He said the request for the rezone as
to why this piece of property is the economics of this size of the
parcel of real estate.
Mr. Al Oak from Cripe Engineering spoke to the Council concerning the
transportation aspect in a subdivision of this sort. Discussion
ensued.
Mayor Reiman opened the public hearing at 8:45 P.M. Mr. Joe W.
Ricketts, 2922 E. 136th St., a land owner on Smokey Row Rd., spoke
against the rezone. Mayor Reiman closed the public hearing at 8:54
P.M. Discussion Ensued. Mr. Walker made a motion to suspend the rules
and act on Ordinance Z-183 tonight. Motion seconded by Mrs. Kerr. Vote
was taken on Ordinance Z-183 which failed on a vote of 5-2; Garretson
and Johnson voting nay.
Transfer of Funds - Engineering Dept. - Mr. Johnson made a motion to
introduce and suspend with the reading of Ordinance B-207. Motions
econded by MR. Fleming. Mr. Garretson moved to suspend the rules and
act on Ordinance B-207 tonight. Motion seconded by Mr. Walker and
passed unanimously. Vote was taken on Ordinance B-207 which passed
unanimously.
Transfer of Funds - MVH - Mrs. McMullen moved to introduce and
dispense with the reading of Ordinance B-208. Motions econded by Mr.
Walker. Mr. Garretson made a mDtion to delete the amount of $2114.79
fro l m e item 4-424 (Bitumlnous Materials) to 2-262 (Street & Alley
Resurfacing) and place $1000.00 in same. Motion seconded by Mrs.
McMhllen. and passed 6-1; Walker voting nay. Mr. Garretson moved to
suspend the rules and act on Ordinance B-208 as amended. Motion
seconded by Mr. Walker and passed unanimously. Vote was taken on
Ordinance B-208 which passed unanimously.
Transfer of Funds - Dept. of Community Developement - Mr. Johnson made
a motion to introduce Ordinance B-209 and dispense with the readinq of
same. Mbtion seconded by Mrs. Kerr. Mr. Johnson moved to suspend the
rules and act on Ordinance B-209 this evening. Motion seconded by Mr.
Walker and passed unanimously. Vote was taken on Ordinance B-209 which
passed unanimously.
Discussion of Sign Ordinance - Mr. Johnson stated some time ago he had
acted as a one of several petitioners on behalf of his church. He
explained that after going through the regular procedural route of
platting & discussing construction, etc through the BZA and Plan
Commission the subject of signs came up. They were told that any
emblem on a building was considered a sign or logo. Mr. Johnson, as
well as the other people involved, felt a cross or emblem similar to,
was part of the architect of the church. He stated that regardless of
what was thought, the people involved in his petition left the meeting
feeling as though they had been attacked.
Mr. Johnson explained that what bothered him was the fact that these
People, or petitioners, were citizens of this community and were
treated like outsiders or wrongdoers. His feeling was that if all
petitioners or remonstraters or just citizens that came before any
governing body of the City left feeling the same way as he and the
people involved with him did, then it was sad and are these bodies
really trying to help. Mr. Johnson requested Attorney Howard to
research the Plan Commission A joinder and report back to the Council
his findings.
Announcements
Mr. Garretson read a letter to the Council expressing his feelings on
the growth of Carmel,the advantages of having the Industrial Park and
the annexing of Guilford. (See letter attached to these minutes) Mr.
Garretson made a motion to move that the City Council request formally
that the Plan Commission take up the creation of an
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I-3 zoning classification as soon as possible and that every effort be
expended to bring together the view of all those affected and
interested in its outcome and also to annex Guilford in the City.
Mr. Garretson made a motion to add this item to the agenda. Motion
seconded by Mr. Johnson and failed on a vote of 6-l; Mrs. Kerr voting
nay.
Mr. Walker extended his congratulations to the Carmel Football Team.
There being no further business to come before the meeting, the same
was duly adjourned at 10:02 P.M.
APPROVED:
ATTEST
NOVEMBER 16, 1981
THIS ISSUE HAS HAD NEARLY A TEN-MONTH HEARING IN OUR COMMUNITY
AND HAS GENERATED EARNEST AND VOLATILE CONVERSATION. ON THE ONE HAND
WE HAVE PERCEIVED COMMUNITY NEEDS FOR INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL
EXPANSION, AND ON THE OTHER, SINCERE CITIZENS CONCERNED THAT SUCH
GROWTH AND EXPANSION NOT IMPACT THEIR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS IN A
NEGATIVE MANNER WHERE PROPERTY VALUES ARE LOWERED AND THE AESTHETIC
AND ENVIRONMENTAL NATURE OF THEIR COMMUNITY IS ALTERED.
THERE IS LITTLE DOUBT THAT THE PROPOSED PETITION COULD HAVE FOUND
THE SUPPORT OF A MAJORITY OF THIS COUNCIL IN ITS PRESENT FOPM, LET
ALONE A ~/3 MAJORITY.
UNQUESTIONABLY, THE EMOTIONAL INVOLVEMENT OF SO MANY PEOPLE
CONVINCED OF THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THEIR CAUSE, HAS LED TO PERSONAL
ACRIMONY, THE DECISION BY MR. ~EW TO WITHDRAW HIS PETITION TONIGHT
SHOULD PROVIDE US A SPAN OF TIME TO COOL EMOTIONS, BUT IT DOES NOT
PUT AN END TO THE ISSUE, FOR SURELY HE AND HIS ASSOCIATES WILL BE
BACK AGAIN. AND IN A BROADER SENSE, THE ISSUE IS DEEPER THAN A
SPECIFIC ~55 ACRES AND THE WELFARE OF THREE OR FO~R SUBDIVISIONS.
THE ISSUE IS ONE OF "QUALITY OF LIFE', OF COMMUNITY BALANCE AND OF
COMMUNITY VIABILITY.
AS CIVIL OFFICIALS WE AT THIS TABLE, HAVE TO LOOK
DOWN THE PATH FOUR, EIGHT, TWELVE, TWENTY YEARS ON MANY OF OUR
DECISIONS. IN THE PAST WE HAVE BEEN GAUGHT IN THE TRAUMA OF
UNRESTRAINED GROWTH; BUT OUR ONCE THRIVING GROWTH HAS BEEN ABATED BY
A SICK ECONOMY AND SPIRALING INTEREST RATES. BUT SURELY THE LONG
TERM PATH WILL SEE A REDUCTION IN INTEREST RATES AND A PERIOD OF
ECONOMIC RECOVERY, llE CANNOT ESCAPE THE INEVITABLE REVIVAL. IN
DEED, THE CITY IS PRESENTLY EXPANDING ITS SEWERS
AND WATER FACILITIES SO THAT WHEN GROWTH DOES RESUME, UTILITIES WILL
BE AVAILABLE. WE ARE PROBABLY VERY FOURTUNATE TO HAVE THIS ECONOMIC
PAUSE AT THIS TIME.
BUT NEITHER THE CITY, NOR THE TOWNSHIP, NOR THE COUNTY
CAN PROVIDE PERMANENT JOBS FOR OUR ADULTS OR PARTTIME JOBS
FOR OUR YOUTH . SEVENTY-FIVE PERCENT OF OUR HIGH SCHOOL
STUDENTS WORK DURING PART OR ALL OF THE SCHOOL YEAR.
GOVERNMENT CANNOT UNDERWRITE THE DAD'S CLUB PROGRAMS, THE
CARMEL CLAY EDUCATIONAL FOUNDATION, THE CARMEL CLASSIC, THE
BAND, THE SWIM CLUB, THE BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL LEAGUES, THE
CHURCH BOUTIQUES AND RAFFLES, AND THE HOST OF VOLUNTARY
EFFORTS THAT HAVE MADE CARMEL UNIQUE IN THE PRIVATE
SERVICES OFFERED ITS CITIZENS. TO ALLOW GROWTH THAT SPURNS
ALL BUT RESIDENCES WILL SURELY BRING AN INCREASE IN
POPULATION AND A DILUTION IN PRIVATE SUPPORT OF SERVIACES FOR
THAT POPULATION.
AND FROM A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, AS ONE SURVEYS THE
FINANCIAL CONDITION OF THE STATE, OF LOCAL UNITS OF
GOVERNMENT AND OF SCHOOL COPORATIONS, AND UNDERSTANDS THE
EVOLUTION OF THE TAXING SYSTEM USED IN INDIANA, WE MUST
REALIZE THAT NO TAX LAW IS ANCHORED IN CONCRETE. THE 1973
TAX FREEZE IS THAWING. THE PROPERTY TAX
REPLACEMENT FUND WHICH WAS BEEN PAYING 20%-30% OF EVERY
PROPERTY OWNER'S TAX BILL IS NEARLY BANKRUPT. LOCAL OPTION
INCREASES IN BOTH PROPERTY AND INCOME TAXES ARE NOW BEING
BANNERED ABOUT OPENLY BY NUMEROUS INFLUENTIAL LOBBYING
GROUPS. WESTFIELD AND WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP HAVE GONE A STEP
BEYOND TO AN "IMPOSED" PROPERTY TAX INCREASE TO BAIL OUT ~TS
SCHOOL SYSTEM FROM FINANCIAL CHAOS. WE CANNOT SIT HERE
TONIGHT, THEN, AND COMPLACENTLY BELIEVE
THE PROPERTY TAX BURDEN IN OUR COMMUNITY WILL NOT INCREASE.
LIKEWISE THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT PROPERTY TAXES FROM RESIDENTIAL
HOMES CANNOT SUPPORT SCHOOL AND COMMUNITY SERVICES IN A QUALITY MANNER
BY THEMSELVES.
NOW, THE QUESTION (IT SEEMS TO ME) IS ONE OF HOW DO WE ACHIAEVE
THE BALANCE IN A MANNER THAT HAS THE LEAST NEGATIVE IMPACT ON
ESTABLISHED HOMESTEDS. THROUGHOUT THIS TEN MONTH DEBATE PEOPLE FROM
BOTH SIDES VOICED A WILLINGNESS TO COMPROMISE.
I WOULD MAKE THIS RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT AS A STEP TOWARD ADDRESSING
THE PROBLEM. THE PETITIONER FOR THE INDUSTRIAL PARK HAS ALREADY
INDICATED HIS INTENTION OF RETURNING TO THE PLAN COMMISSION. RATHER
THAN WAIT AND THEN REACT, WE SHOULD TAKE THE INITIATIVE. MUCH TALK HAS
BOUNCED BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE TWO SIDES ABOUT THE DESIRABILITY OF
AN I-3 ZONING CLASSIFICATION. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE PLAN COMMISSION
AND ITS APPROPRIATE COMMITTEES BEGIN IMMEDIATELY THE RESEARCH AND
DISCUSSIONS NECESSARY TO CREATE SUCH A ZONING CLASSIFICATION. THE PLAN
COMMISSION SHOULD SOLICIT THE VIEWS OF THE PETITIONER AND OTHE
POTENTIAL DEVELOPERS, OF REPRESENTATIVES OF JOHNSON SUBDIVISION,
WILSON VILLAGE, THORNHURST AND OTHER POTENTIAL AFFECTED AREAS.
SUCH CLASSIFICATION SHOULD ENABLE THE PLAN COMMISSION TO PASS UPON
FUTURE PETITIONS WITHOUT THE NECESSITY OF ADDING COUNTLESS COVENANTS
WHOSE ENFORCAB1LITY HAS COME INTO QUESTIAON DURING THESE HEARINGS.
THEREFORE, MADAMN r;AYOR, I WOULD MOVE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL REQUEST
FORMALLY THAT THE PLAN COMMISSION TAKE THE CREATION OF AN I-3 ZONING
CLASSIFICATION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND THAT EVERY EFFORT BE EXPENDED
TO BRING TOGETHER THE VIEWS OF ALL THOSE AFFECTED AND INTERESTED IN
ITS OUTCOME.