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CARMEL CITY COUNCIL
JULY 6, 1987
The meeting of the Carmel City Council was called to order by Mayor
Reiman at 7:00 P.M. on July 6, 1987, with Council members Miller,
Doane, Johnson, Garretson and Fleming present. Also present was City
Attorney Andrews and Asst. Clerk-Treasurer Hiatt.
Mr. Johnson made a motion to approve the minutes of June 15, 1987.
Motion seconded by Mr. Miller and passed unanimously.
Ms. Debbie Gangsted, immediate past president of Tri Kappa Alpha,
presented to the City of Carmel a picture of the current City Hall done
by Henry Bell in honor of the Sesquicentinial.
Old Business
Annexation Ordinance C-108 Cedar Lake Section 2 - A location map was
attached to the Ordinanle WlliCll was introduced at the last meeting.
Mr. Garretson made a call for the question. Ordinance C-108 passed
unanimously
Carmel Drive and Keystone Way - The Council was in receipt of a report
fro the Carmel Police Dept. with regard to the intersection at Carmel
Drive and Keystone Way. Mr. Johnson stated he was not interested in
doing anything that wasn't professional. I feel at this point a
professional study needs to be done. Mr. Johnson stated it was the
businesses along these streets that were going to be affected and that
he was not infavor of a one-way street without advice from people who
professionally do so. The statistics were read from the police report.
Mr. Steve Harlow, 4609 Somerset Way S., Carmel, Attorney representing
TGr. Barnes, owner of properly along Keystone Way, spoke to the
Council. Mr. Harlow reminded the Council of an agreement between ~Ir.
Barnes and the Board of Public Works in November 1980, of which
indicated Keystone Way and Carmel Drive would remain two way streets.
Mr. Harlow stated Mr. Barnes suggested a stop sign at Keystone Way and
Carmel Drive with con junction of better control of the stop light at
Keystone and Carmel Drive.
Mr. Norm Rothenburg, McDonalds 750 E. Carmel Dr. Carmel, felt the
possi bility of making Key stone Way a one-way street would have a
negative affect on the business community and eliminating left turns
would hurt business. Mr. Rothenburg felt a stop sign on the southwest
corner of Carmel Drive and Keystone Way, making the corner a 3-way
stop. He also suggested a delayed signal at Keystone and Carmel Drive
for westbound traffic could be the aniwer. Mr. Rothenburg asked that
the City appoint a task force, to take suggestions and the funds set
aside to traffic engineers for their review and modification , then
meet with the State Dept. of Transportation for answers to the problem.
Mr. Harold Egger, agent for Keystone Square Shopping, 1350 Greyhound
Ct., Carmel, stated he endorses the Mayor and Mr. Johnson's letters
and Mr. Rothenburg's comments, and is agreement with the idea of a
professional study.
Mr. Harry Reasner, Jim Dandy restaurant chain, stated they endorse and
fully support Mr. Rothenburg's suggestions. He said they had given 4
feet of their property for curbing to assist the traffic problem, with
the understanding it would not become a one-way street.
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Mr. Phil Oreste, representative of Noble Romans, stated their
wish was that Keystone Way could not become a one-way street and
would endorse a professional study being done.
Mr. Russ Hagerman, representing True Value Hardware, stated they
would like to go on record as being in favor of the suggestion
of having a professional study done . Mr. Hagerman said they
would like to be certain that whatever is done is only done once
and that they are not called back in three or four years making
other changes .
Ms. Joy Stafford, Manager of the AHM Graves office on Keystone
Way, stated they were again it a one-way street and were in
favor of a professional traffic study being done.
Mr. Tom Wilson, Wilson Office Plaza, 969 Keystone Way, endorsed
a professional study and feels the right turn arrow on Keystone
should be eliminated.
Mr. David Marsh, representing Marsh Supermarkets, stated they
were in favor of a professional study and do not want one-way
streets.
Mr. Jim Mahnke, owner of the Pub Deli on Keystone Way, stated he
agrees with Mr. Rothenburg and the Mayor's suggestions of a
professional study. He is very strongly opposed to a one-way
street.
Mr. Wayne Euriga, owner of Sargent Bruning Paint Store, said he
would like to go on record as being in favor of a professional
study but would be wholeheartedly against a one-way street and
a"no left turn" sign. Mr. Euriga asked what was the ruling or
what was required to have a traffic light a: the intersection of
Carmel Drive and Keystone Way? Mr. Johnson told Mr. Euriga that
the State of Indiana determines where traffic signals are to be
installed, where turn lights are placed.
Mr. Kevin Miller, representing Browning Investment, 650 E.
Carmel Dr., stated they thought a ])rofessional study was needed
and that it was important that the problem was fixed once and
only once.
A Task Force was formed with Harold Eggers, Tom Wilson, Jim
Mahnke, Norm Rothenburg, Harry Reasner and Council members
Johnson and Fleming. Mayor Reiman asked thal she sit in on the
meetings. Mr. Garretson asked that the Clerk-Treasurer come back
in two weeks with an answer on where there might be available
funds for the study.
The meeting recessed al 7:45 P.M.
Reconvened at 7: 52 P.M
Request for Stop Sign at Crestwood Dr. and Carmel Dr. - Dr.
Robert Nelson 3729 Carmel Drive, Carmel, came before the Council
with a request for a stop sign at the interc ection of
Crestwood- Dr. and Carmel Dr. Dr. Nelson felt that due to the
n~mber of children in the area, the drag racing he had observed
and the accident that had occured at his home, the place ment of
a stop sign wac much needed. It was the consensus of the Council
that the City attorney prepare an ordinance and the Police
prepare a report and ccme back at the next meeting.
Ms. Pat Grose, 3718 Cambridge Ct., Carmel asked the Council
could a stop sign be removed. Mayor Reiman stated that once a
sign was installed it
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Public Hearing - Ordinance Z-219, Amendment to Zoning Ordinance Z-160 -
Chuck Kiphart, Director of Department of Community Development,
appeared
before the Council Witl some revisions to the Zoning Ordinance. Mr.
Kiphart explained the changes; cul-de-sac, the definition
changes so
that a cul-de-sac street has to intersect with a thru street:
fences,
due to the high cost of land, builders are putting storm
retention and
detention facilities bring put in the rear yards of lots
instead of a
separate large water facility being set aside in a sub-
division, the
problem is once the lots sell off there's nothing that
prohibits owners
from putting fences down these drainage ways, and this could
affect
the ability of the drainage way to work properly in future
years. The
ordinance prohibits owlers from putting fences in these
areas: identifi-
cation signs for churches, the ordinance would allow a church
to have
identification signs ol two road frontages: provisions for
financial
performance and guarantees for sub-di-visions, the sub-
divider would have
to provide the Dept. of Community Development with two as-
bllilt drawings
with the public facilities we put in, i.e. streets,
sidewalks, water,
sewage and drainage facilities: parking requirements-
restaurants, this
applies to restaurants that are going into commercial centers
and permits
oile space per every 2.5 patron seats, plus one space per
employee per
largest shift: sidewalk,, requires the installation of
sidewalks in all
subdivisions within the jurisdictional area shall be
mandatory, being
installed on both sides of the street in front of the house.
This includes
sidewalks on existing roads within and bordering a
subdivision.
Mr. Dick Albright, President of the Plan Commission was also
present
for this item.
Mayor Reiman opened the meeting for a public hearing on Ordinance Z-
219. There was no one that spoke to the ordinance, it was then closed.
Mr. Garretson made a mo:ion to introduce Ordinance Z-219, suspend the
reading of same and suspend the rules and act on Ordinance Z-219 thls
evening. Motion seconded by Ms. Doane and passed unanimously. Vote was
taken on Ordinance Z-219 which passed unanimously.
Ordinance D-518, Amending Garmel City Code Section 12.06, Junk ~ Junk
Car~s Mr. Garretson made a molion to introduce Ordinance D-518 and
suspend the reading of same. Motion seconded by Mr. Miller and passed
unanimously. Mr. Johnson made a motion to amend line 3 of paragraph 3
to say "and/or". Motion seconded by Mr. Garretson and passed
unanimously. Mr. Garretson made a motion to suspend the rules and act
on Ordinance D-518 this evening Motion seconded by Mr. Miller. Vote was
taken on Ordiannce D-518 which passed unanimously.
Ordinance D-519, Establishing Limited Parking on Beechmont, Alwyne and
Lexington Avenues- Mr. Johnson made a motion to introduce Ordinance D-
519 and suspend the reading of same. Motion seconded by Miss Doane. Mr.
Garretson suggested that the ordinance be sent to the school
administratio telling them Council would be acting on the ordinance in
two weeks if they would like to make a comment. City Attorney Andrews
stated he had not de fined the parimeters of no parking on these streets
and that Council would have to fill this in. Ordinance D-519 was shown
as introduccd.
Mr. Garretson asked that a resolution be prepared commending the
Sesqui_ centinnial Commission ard presented at the next meeting.
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The Council agreed the Sesquicentinnial celebrations were all great and
especially liked the community picnic held at Civic Square on Sunday.
Mr. Badger arrived at this point.
There being no further business to come before the meeting, the same
was duly adjourned at 8:45 P.M.
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