HomeMy WebLinkAboutCCM-10-07-91CARMEL CITY COUNCIL
MEETING MINUTES
OCTOBER 7, 1991
7:00 P.M.
CARMEL CIVIC SQUARE/COUNCIL CHAMBERS
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Dorothy Hancock. Members
in attendance were Alan Potasnik, Tom Irvin, Frank Fleming, David
Adams, Annabelle Ogle and Lee Lonzo. Member Minnie Doane was
absent. Also in attendance was Clerk-Treasurer Susan W. Jones and
City Attorney Steve Andrews.
The invocation was given by the Mayor followed by the Pledge of
Allegiance.
Councilor Potasnik asked that the memo minutes concerning
MINUTES:
the executive session held on September 16, 1991 include the fact
that Ted Johnson was also in attendance.
With that correction Councilor Ogle moved to approve the minutes
for both the regular meeting and the executive session. The motion
was seconded by Potasnik. All members voted aye. Motion carried.
President Adams stated that the
PROCLAMATION FOR RED RIBBON WEEK:
Council had been asked to declare the week of October 19-27, 1991
as Red Ribbon Week. Adams said this was a drug and alcohol abuse
awareness week. Adams asked the citizens in the community to
participate in various programs such as placing a red ribbon on the
antenna of their car to remind individuals not to drive after
drinking alcohol. Adams moved, at this time, as a Council to
proclaim the week of October 19-27, 1991 as Red Ribbon Week in the
Carmel community. The motion was seconded by Councilor Lonzo. All
members voted aye. Motion carried.
Street Department: David Klingensmith, street
TRANSFERS:
commissioner, presented Resolution 10-7-91-1 which called for a
transfer of $500.00 from Bottled Gas Account #314 into Oil Account
#312 (MVH Fund) and Resolution 10-7-91-2 which called for a
transfer of $7,000 from Street Striping Account #435 into Repair
Parts Account #330 (MVH Fund). Councilor Fleming moved to adopt
the two Resolutions allowing the transfers. The motion was
seconded by Potasnik. All members voted aye. Motion carried.
Communication Center: Major Robert Nibarger, Carmel Police
Department and Joe Bower representing the Carmel Communications
Center presented Resolution 10-7-91-3 which called for transfers
of $15,000 from Health Insurance #202 into #642 Other Equipment,
$3,500 from Account #465 Electricity into Account #642 Other
Equipment and $5,000 from Account #101 Full-time salary into
Account #120 Over-time Salary (General Fund.) Nibarger had
originally requested a transfer of $6,000 from #203 PERF into Other
Equipment but withdrew his request based on information he had
received from the clerk-treasurer's office. Lonzo moved to amend
Resolution 10-7-91-3 by striking the words $6,000 from Account #203
PERF into Account #642 Other Equipment and moved for its adoption
as amended. Potasnik seconded the motion. All members voted aye.
Department of Community Development and Plan Commission: Wes
Bucher, director of Community Development presented Resolution 10-
7-91-4 which called for a transfer of $600.00 from Account #252
into Account #250 Travel (General Fund). Adams moved for the
adoption of Resolution 10-7-91-4. The motion was seconded by Ogle.
All members voted aye. Motion carried.
Wes Bucher then presented Resolution 10-7-91-5 which called for
a transfer in the Plan Commission budget (General Fund) in the
amount of $500.00 from Travel #250 into #252. Potasnik moved for
the adoption of Resolution 10-7-91-5. The motion was seconded by
Adams. All members voted aye. Motion carried.
Police Department: Carmel Police Chief Gary Barney presented three
Resolutions for consideration:
10-7-91-6 $5000.00 from #475 Maintenance Contracts into
Account #252 Training & Instruction
10-7-91-7 $ 500.00 from #475 Maintenance Contracts into
Account #466 Water and Sewer.
10-7-91-8 $2000.00 from #475 Maintenance Contracts into
Account #472 Building & Structure Repair
Lonzo moved for the adoptions of Resolutions 10-7-91-6, 10-7-91-7
and 10-7-91-8. The motion was seconded by Councilor Irvin. All
members voted aye. Motion carried.
Board of Public Works: Mayor Hancock presented two Resolutions
calling for transfers of $3,565.00 from Account #465 Electric into
Account #483 Hydrant Rental/Carmel and $3,145.00 from Account #465
Electric into Account #482 Hydrant Rental/ Indianapolis (General
Fund). Fleming moved for the adoption of Resolutions 10-7-91-9 and
10-7-9-10. The motion was seconded by Irvin. All members voted
aye. Motion carried.
ANNEXATION ORDINANCE C-160/SECOND READING/REMAINDER OF WOODGATE,
Tom
WOODFIELD AND NORTHERN SECTION OF 146TH STREET RIGHT-OF-WAY:
Welch, city engineer stated that concerns had been raised at the
previous Council meeting concerning performance of the developers.
Welch stated performance bonds are held by the City on this
development and on others that have been in question.
Potasnik asked if the Board of Public Works had signed off on this
annexation. Welch stated it was the recommendation of the Board of
Public Works to the Council that this annexation take place.
Potasnik called for the question. Hancock asked for all those
members in favor of passing Ordinance C-160 to vote aye. All
members voted aye. Motion carried. Ordinance C-160 passed
unanimously.
REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATION/CARMEL POLICE
Police Chief Gary Barney stated he was
DEPARTMENT/800MHZ RADIOS:
presenting this request to seek an additional appropriation in the
amount of $114,556 for the balance of the 800 mhz radio equipment
on behalf of the Carmel Technical Committee.
Barney stated the Tech Committee recommended that the City go
entirely to the 800 mhz system this year, for the police
department, rather than the original five year plan. Barney and
Fleming both stated this recommendation has the support and
endorsement of mayor-elect Ted Johnson.
Irvin asked the clerk-treasurer if she thought the operating
balance could support this large of a request. Jones stated it
could. Irvin asked if this request would run the balance low.
Jones stated not at all. Irvin thought the request was commendable
and liked the idea of moving the project up from the original 5
year plan. Irvin suggested there might be a savings in doing the
project now. Fleming and Barney said the savings came from the
purchase of the hand-held radios but no cost savings had been
figured on the purchasing the radios for the cars now rather than
waiting and phasing in radios over the next 5 years.
Lonzo asked the clerk-treasurer what would be the approximate
operating balance in the General Fund. Jones stated she thought it
was somewhere around $750,000. Jones said she hasn't done a
financial statement for awhile in the General Fund for the State
Tax Commissioners but the last time she did one the operating
balance was sizable and the City's opperating balance was in great
shape.
Lonzo expressed specific concern about this request. Lonzo stated
that much was said a couple of meetings ago to this Council about
how, in effect, they were lame ducks and shouldn't even be
contemplating such things as trying to get a teen center
implemented before the current Council leaves office. Lonzo said
that it seemed to him the City was on a 5 year plan for this system
and it seemed to him that if there is a need or a particular
savings that is one thing but for the Council to vote on a special
appropriation of $114,000 it would take something rather
substantial for Lonzo to vote in favor of that at this particular
time. Lonzo said this particular Council has been under criticism
for being big spenders by some elements and he wanted some
justification in order to move forward with this at this time and
not stick to the five year plan.
Irvin moved to direct the clerk-treasurer to advertise for an
additional appropriation in the General Fund in the amount of
$114,556.00. The motion was seconded by Lonzo.
Lonzo asked the clerk-treasurer to have an accurate operating
balance figure, a report from the Technical Advisory Committee on
why there is some necessity to go forward at this time and finally
wanted hear from Mr. Johnson personally.
All members voted aye. Motion carried.
Fleming stated that
REMOVAL OF GASOLINE STORAGE TANKS/DISCUSSION:
two meetings ago, the Council appropriated $10,000 to remove the
buried gasoline tanks at the Communications Center. Fleming stated
that since then, contaminated soil has been found. Fleming then
turned over the discussion to Lee Dollen from the Utilities
Department to explain the requirements from the Indiana Department
of Environmental Management (IDEM) and the costs involved in
removing the contaminated soil. (An estimate of costs is attached
to the minutes.)
Dollen stated various reasons why there was contamination but
stated he could not be sure. He felt the contamination was due to
spills from overfilling the tanks. He stated there were no leaks
in the tanks that were removed. The total cost in order to satisfy
the IDEM would be approximately $50,465.75 plus back-fill which
would be approximately $5,600.00. Dollen stated he hasn't met with
IDEM officials as yet. Dollen also said that tests have indicated
some of the soil has tested very high and other soil has not, so it
was possible the cost for hauling could be reduced by half.
Dollen asked for another two weeks to get this all straightened out
with IDEM and Hoosier Equipment and report back to the Council and
give some type of figure. Dollen also brought up the original
appropriation ran over $186.08. The mayor stated she thought a
transfer could be sought for this small additional amount. The
mayor stated the Board of Public Works budget could not handle a
transfer in the amount of $50,000.
Fleming moved to table this item on the agenda until more
information is received. Irvin seconded the motion. Irvin wanted
to discuss the matter further but Lonzo stated he would have to
withdraw his second on the motion to table in order to have further
discussion. Irvin withdrew his motion.
Irvin asked if the tanks had been removed. Dollen stated they had.
Irvin asked what kind of tanks were they. Dollen stated they were
fiberglass. Irvin asked if they were leaking. Dollen stated they
were not. Dollen stated the only way gasoline could have gotten in
there was over-spills. Dollen said he was aware of those when they
happened. Irvin said he did not understand why there was so much
contamination in the pit and surrounding area. Dollen stated he
didn't understand it either other than the tanks were put in the
ground in the early 1970's and perhaps throughout the years the
over-spills have accumulated. Dollen also said that perhaps three
or four years ago when the pumps were replaced to in-tank pumps
that the new piping work that was done might have been done
incorrectly. Dollen said that all of the contamination was
contained to the pits except for one place in one of the pits at
the west end because when they pulled the dirt away from it hydro-
carbons came running out from the building towards it at a pretty
good clip.
Potasnik asked Dollen about the fact that Carmel may not have to do
this work until IDEM takes a look at this problem. Dollen said
that was correct. Potasnik asked if the $10,000 special
appropriation has already been spent to remove the tanks. Dollen
stated yes. Potasnik asked why those tanks had to be removed since
the City was no longer using them. Dollen stated the reason was
because of the contaminated soil. Potasnik also thought the reason
was because if the City abandoned the tanks they had to be removed
after 6 months. Dollen said that was correct. Potasnik said now
the City is looking at another $50,465.75 to remove the soil and
asked Dollen if this amount would be the absolute worse case
scenario. Dollen said yes. Dollen also said another $5,000 was
needed for back-fill.
Potasnik asked about quotes from other companies to do this work
besides Hoosier Equipment. Dollen stated that he planned to get
other estimates.
Potasnik asked Dollen about securing the area since removal of the
tanks caused substantial holes in the ground. Dollen stated that
the area is secure at this point with plenty of signs, lighting and
a fence but if it drags on much longer he is planning to put some
kind of a cover over the holes. Potasnik stated his concern was
with all the "what if's" involved in leaving these large holes
open.
Fleming asked the City attorney about the original contract with
Hoosier Equipment and wondered if anybody else could finish the
work. Andrews said he didn't have the contact in front of him but
would review it and let him know. Fleming said that before we go
and get bids from anybody else we should look at the original
contract. Potasnik said the Board of Works could have only signed
a contract for an amount equivalent to the appropriation of $10,000
and if that were the case, any additional work that was beyond that
first contract would certainly be open. Dollen said the only thing
that was bid on the first round that hasn't been used was a price
for hauling away the contaminated soil. Fleming asked if they
would have to be the ones to haul it away then since they were low
bidder. Dollen said yes that if we accepted the bid and they were
low bidder then we would have to use them. The mayor said that if
the project goes beyond $25,000 it must be let out on bid anyway
and that is by statute.
Adams seconded Fleming's motion to table this item. The motion was
seconded. All members voted aye. Motion carried.
At this time City attorney Andrews asked
ADDITION TO THE AGENDA:
that an item concerning Clay Township be added to the agenda and if
it was appropriate to do it before new business. The clerk-
treasurer said it was to be done after new business and before
other business.
Lonzo made a motion to suspend the rules and add this item to the
agenda at this time. Lonzo stated this item was simply a request
from Clay Township to ask for an amendment to the zoning ordinance.
Adams seconded the motion. All members voted aye. Motion
carried.
PUBLIC HEARING/ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATION/FIRE DEPARTMENT/HEALTH
Hancock stated this
INSURANCE/GENERAL FUND/$40,388.00:
appropriation in the amount of $40,388.00 was for the Fire
Department and was for additional health insurance premiums due
because of the mid-year increase.
The mayor opened the meeting to a public hearing calling for any
objections, comments and/or questions. Seeing none, the mayor
closed the hearing to the public and opened it to the Council
calling for the same.
Irvin asked the mayor if this additional appropriation would be
partially funded by the township. The mayor said it would be added
in at the end of the year if the department does not spend all of
their money then the township gets a prorated credit on next year's
pay. The mayor called for any final questions or comments from the
Council. There were none.
Irvin made a motion to approve D-725 and suspend the reading. The
mayor then stated that Ordinance D-725 had not been introduced and
asked for a motion to introduce Ordinance D-725 and suspend with
its reading. Lonzo so moved. The motion was seconded by Adams.
Irvin then moved to suspend the rules and act on D-725 tonight.
The motion was seconded by Lonzo. All members voted aye. Motion
carried.
The mayor called for the question. All members voted aye.
Ordinance D-725 passed unanimously.
ORDINANCE D-724/RATIFYING THE CREATION OF THE CARMEL/CLAY BOARD OF
Lonzo
PARKS AND RECREATION AND ABOLISHING THE CARMEL PARKS BOARD:
stated he would take great pleasure in introducing Ordinance D-724
and dispense with the reading. The motion was seconded by Adams.
Andrews stated this was a "housekeeping" ordinance in some
respects. Andrews said when the joinder agreement was approved and
sent on to Clay Township there was a provision that the City needed
to ratify the agreement by ordinance and that is what this
ordinance does. Andrews went on to say that it also instructs the
clerk-treasurer to transfer the monies that were being held under
the Carmel Park Board to the Joint Board and establish a line item
and an account. Andrews said the ordinance also calls for the
abolishment of the Parks Board since there is nothing under the
joinder agreement that establishes a separate Carmel Parks Board.
Lonzo asked if anyone from the Parks Board wanted to comment to the
Council. Lonzo moved to suspend the rules and allow the President,
Judi Jacobs or any member of the Park Board to address the Council.
The motion was seconded by Adams. All members voted aye. Motion
carried.
Jacobs thanked the Council for all of their help and stated the new
Board was very energetic and exited about getting started.
Adams moved to suspend the rules and act on Ordinance D-725
tonight. The motion was seconded by Lonzo. All members voted aye.
Motion carried.
Hancock called for the question. All members voted aye. Ordinance
D-725 passed unanimously.
Mayor Hancock thanked the Council for moving forward on this and
thanked the Park Board for being so enthusiastic and working
through some very tough meetings and spending so much time with
this.
Fleming requested approval of a
COMMUNICATIONS CENTER CLAIM:
claim from the Drexel Corporation in the amount of $351.20.
Potasnik so moved. The motion was seconded by Adams. All members
voted aye. Motion carried.
Jones presented
DISASTER RECOVERY PLAN/CLERK-TREASURER'S OFFICE:
the disaster recovery plan for her computer system to the Council
for their approval. Jones explained this request was born out of a
recommendation by the State Board of Accounts on their last audit
of the computer system. Jones said the plan calls for security
plans, off-site storage of back-up tapes and the working knowledge
of the accounting system without the aid of the computer.
Adams moved to approve the Disaster Recovery Plan for the clerk-
treasurer's office. The motion was seconded by Irvin. All members
voted aye. Motion carried.
RESOLUTION/INCREASE IN WATER AND SEWER BUDGETS/CITY ENGINEER AND
The mayor explained these requests were not transfers
UTILITIES:
but increases in the budgets. Unlike the General Fund, these
additional appropriations are for the utilities and are not
required to have a public hearing.
Tom Welch, City engineer and Lee Dollen presented the requests to
the Council. The increase to the water budget was for $36,091.21
and the sewer budget was for $30,629.63.
Potasnik said he could certainly understand the need for the $5,000
to repair the backhoe especially now with cold weather coming.
Potasnik said he could also understand the need for additional
money for health insurance and specifically addressed the need for
$8,000 to repair a water main at the plant. Potasnik asked if this
main was now repaired. Welch stated it was.
Lonzo asked if this increase could be done without an increase to
the rates. Welch stated this increase wouldn't have any effect on
the rates.
Irvin moved to approve Resolution 10-7-91-11. The motion was
seconded by Fleming. All members voted aye. Motion carried.
David Klingensmith, Street
NO LEFT TURN ON TO CIVIC SQUARE:
Commissioner, presented his recommendation to the Council.
Klingensmith basically stated that he would not put anymore signs
around Civic Square and stated the problem was enforcement.
Klingensmith stated that YIELD SIGNS and ONE WAY SIGNS are already
in place. It was the consensus of the Council not to put anymore
signs up around Civic Square and felt what was up there was
adequate. The mayor directed the police chief to enforce the
traffic laws around Civic Square.
REQUEST FROM CLAY TOWNSHIP FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING
The mayor stated the township is asking for an
ORDINANCE:
amendment that would exempt all city and township facilities and
buildings from the zoning requirements and procedures. Andrews
said he was contacted last week by Bob Campbell, attorney for the
Township and they are requesting the City of Carmel exempt them
from zoning requirements. Andrews said this was something that
needed to be referred by this Council to the Plan Commission for a
recommendation back to the Council. Lonzo so moved. The motion
was seconded by Ogle. All members voted aye. Motion carried.
The mayor asked who would do the actual "leg" work on sending this
to the Plan Commission. Andrews stated the best way was through
the clerk-treasurer.
Lonzo asked if anyone was hearing
PARKING AROUND THE HIGH SCHOOL:
problems of parking around the high school. Fleming stated he was.
Lonzo said he thought that if there were, the Council should be
looking at possible solutions. Fleming said he met with school
officials and city officials last week chief Barney and Dave
Klingensmith will be submitting a list of where there should be
more signs. Fleming said he felt that when cold weather arrived
there might be a possibility of kids seeking out other places to
park rather than taking the 10 minute walk from the football field
parking lot. Fleming thought the list might be presented at the
next Council meeting.
There being no further business before the Council the meeting was
duly adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
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Approved:
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ATTEST:
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