HomeMy WebLinkAboutBPW-03-18-91CARMEL BOARD OF PUBLIC WORKS AND SAFETY
MEETING MINUTES
M3kRCH 18, 1991
5:15 P.M.
ONE CIVIC SQUARE/COUNCIL CHAMBERS
The meeting of the Carmel Board of Public Works and Safety
was called to order at 5:20 p.m. by Mayor Dorothy Hancock.
Board members present were David Taylor and Billy Walker.
City Attorney Steve Andrews and Clerk-Treasurer Susan W.
Jones were also in attendance.
MINUTES/NLARCH 4. 1991: Mayor Hancock asked for a change on
the next to the last page where Taylor moved to refer this
matter to the council for the city and have it brought back
under old business next week, council was meant to mean the
city attorney as in counsel.
The Hayor asked the clerk-treasurer why the difference in the
signing of the minutes.
Clerk-Treasurer Susan Jones stated that she was following
Roberts Rules of Order as adopted by the BPW at the last
Board of Public Works meeting. Jones stated Roberts Rules of
Order does not call for a second signature unless dictated by
the Board.
Billy Walker stated that in the past we have always had two
signatures. The Mayor stated there has always been a place
for the presiding officer to sign and then attested by the
clerk-treasurer.
Walker stated he didn't have a problem with what was done in
the past and moved to have two signatures on the minutes. The
motion was seconded by David Taylor. Ail members voted aye.
Walker and Taylor stated they were pleased with the detail in
the minutes this time and thought they were very good.
Taylor moved to approve the minutes as changed. Mayor Hancock
seconded the motion. Ail members voted aye. Hotion carried.
CLAIMS: Walker moved to approve claims dated 3-12-91, pages
1-16,
in the amount of $795,992.84. The motion was seconded by
Taylor. Ail members voted aye. Motion carried.
Taylor moved to approve the claims dated 3-13-91 in the
amount of
$113,937.38. The motion was seconded by Hayor Hancock. Ail
members voted aye. Hotion carried.
REQUEST FOR OFFICE SPACE/TOWNSHIP TRUSTEE AND ASSESSOR. Mayor
Hancock asked City Attorney Andrews if any headway had been
made on this matter. Andrews replied, no.
Taylor moved to remove this item from the agenda indefinitely
until the attorney brings it back. The motion was seconded by
Hancock. Ail members voted aye. Motion carried.
Walker asked how soon the city attorney expected to have
something to bring back to the Board. Andrews stated a study
committee of the City Council was studying all the surplus
property and there has been no recommendation from that
committee. Andrews stated he served on this committee as city
attorney and Council President Adams and he were to have met
on this with the committee and, to date, no meeting has been
set. There is a proposition, in draft form, for the committee
to come forward with but he wasn't sure of the timetable for
that draft. Andrews hoped that within the next 30 days they
would have something for the Hensels to consider.
Walker stated his only concern is when the Hensels made the
comment at the last meeting that we had surplus materials to
go out to people in need within the community and we didn't
have any place to store them. That bothered him a great deal.
Walker wants to make sure the city provides a place to store
and distribute these items.
ASHTON SUBDIVISION/STREET LIGHTING PLAN: Jennifer Shea,
representing Safco Inc. (Developers of Ashton Subdivision)
presented a street lighting plan to the BPW. Mayor Hancock
stated
she was very excited and pleased about this request. Hancock
stated this is one of the things she is trying to get done.
The
mayor wants to see the developer installing the street lights
as
part of the project rather than have the homeowners come back
in at
a later date and request the lights.
Safco proposed entry street lighting in the Ashton
subdivision. Six lights would be installed at the 146th
Street entrance and six street lights at the Hazeldell Road
entrance. The street lights are of a traditional design and
will enhance visual images of facilities during daytime hours
as well as high efficiency nighttime lighting. The homeowners
association will be responsible for all maintenance and
illumination costs.
Taylor asked Shea if plans were being made to put street
lights throughout the entire subdivision. Shea stated she is
working with the Department of Community Development on some
type of agreement for that between the City, PSI and Safco.
Walker asked about doing something like this at the entrance
and then a different design throughout the remainder of the
subdivision. Shea stated the street lighting would be pretty
traditional and should match whatever is decided for the rest
of the subdivision.
Billy Walker moved to approve the plan as submitted. The
motion was seconded by Taylor. Ail members voted aye. Hotion
carried.
COHHUNICATIONS CENTER/AMENDMENT TO NLATERNITY LEAVE: City
Attorney Andrews explained the nature of this request and the
actual make-up of the Communications Center. Andrews stated
the Communications Center is an outgrowth of the Police and
Fire Departments. Andrews said the Police and Fire
Departments are statutorily different agencies under Indiana
Code and are treated substantially differently. They have
their own sets of rules and regulations. What has happened
is, by the establishment of the Communications Center, that
distinction has ended. He explained these employees are now
civilian employees and are not statutorily designated
officers of the Police or Fire Department.
Andrews stated the bottom line is, they have no rules or
regulations that are separate and apart from the city's
personnel rules and regulations. Unless the BPW intends to
amend the city's rules and regulations that are not ordinance
form, there is no need to consider this agenda item.
Andrews recommended the BPW the remove this item from the
agenda and he will review it further and bring back a formal
finding within the next 60 days. Walker so moved. The motion
was seconded by Taylor. Ail members voted aye. Hotion
carried.
ADDITIONAL SEWER AND WATER AVAILABILITY/WEAVER WERKS ADDITION
/511 INDUSTRIAL DRIVE: Billy Walker moved to grant sewer and
water availability to Weaver Werks, 511 Industrial Drive in
the amount of .31 EDUs not to exceed an average daily flow of
93 gallons. This availability was granted contingent upon
construction or development beginning within 12 months or
said approval expires.
The motion was seconded by Taylor. Ail members voted aye.
Hotion carried.
ADDITIONAL SEWER AND WATER AVAILABILITY/ENGINEERED COOLING
SYSTEM ADDITION/201 WEST CARMEL DRIVE: Walker moved to grant
additional water and sewer availability to Engineered Cooling
Systems Additional at 201 West Carmel Drive in the amount of
3.47 EDUs not to exceed an average daily flow of 31,022
gallons. The motion was seconded by Taylor. Ail members voted
aye. This motion was contingent upon construction or
development beginning within 12 months or said approval
expires.
WATER AVAILABILITY/OUTLOT/TIMBER CREST BEND: Billy Walker
moved to approve water availability in the amount of 1 EDU
for a single family dwelling to be located on the parcel of
ground between Carrington Woods and Timber Crest Bend. The
motion was seconded by Taylor. Ail members voted aye. Hotion
carried. This approval was approved with the stipulation that
annexation would begin as soon as possible.
PERFORMANCE BOND RELEASE/TIMBER CREST BEND/ WATER LINES
Billy Walker made a motion to approve Resolution 3-18-91-1
granting a performance bond release for water lines, bond
343, $34,050.00 for Timber Crest Bend. The motion was
seconded by Mayor Hancock. Ail members voted aye. Motion
carried.
WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IMPROVEMENTS/JOB NO. S8815/CHANGE
ORDER ~4/NET CHANGE/NET INCREASE S24,876.00: Don Silvey of
Commonwealth Engineers described the eleven changes in order
~4 for job ~S8815, Wastewater Treatment Plant Improvements.
The net increase for the change order was $24,876.00.
Walker asked about elevation and changing of elevation and
why this wasn't in the original bid. Walker was concerned
about the elevation changes in items 3 and 4. Walker also
asked Silvey for an explanation on the request for power and
putting in a probe or something like to measure and what
would we have to use as back-up if that didn't work?
Silvey explained the procedure for the dissolved oxygen
probe. He stated right now they will either take a portable
probe to measure the dissolved oxygen and physically check
what is coming out, manually log in a record of the number or
they will go down to the river, take a sample and take it to
the laboratory. Two ways are used at that time to measure
dissolved oxygen. Again, they can use a probe or what is
called the wet or Winkler method of chemically measuring how
much oxygen is in water. The addition of the probe to sense
what the oxygen level going out to the stream continuously
will do, is save the man having to go down to the river and
that came out in the permit after the job had been designed
and bid. This probe will provide a continuous chart and that
would make a better record.
Walker asked Silvey to review item ~4. Walker asked if the
entire project was going to be 30" Silvey stated no. Silvey
said there was an existing 20" line that would be
disconnected and would be connecting the new 30". In the
course of installing the new 30" line, Silvey thought they
were going to have some conflicts with the force mains that
come through that area. He said they found that did not have
the problems they thought they were going to have when they
went to connect the 20" but did have some problems with the
30" but it was a matter of just making it a fitting and a
shift and adjustment. Those particular force mains come from
the 106th Street lift station. That lift station is
approximately 30 feet deep. When the force mains were brought
from that lift station up to the plant, for some reason,
parts of that force main were laid on a continuous grade up
hill which meant since they were starting deep, they are
deeper than normally anticipated coming up through that area.
Silvey said there was not just one main but two mains. Their
relationship of how they were laid has been a on going
challenge anytime work has been done in that area. It could
never be determined where it could be.
Walker stated his bottom question is, why weren't some of
these things included in the original bid? Silvey stated that
on the items regarding elevation, no one could see below
grade level and could not have found any record of where it
was. Silvey stated these lines were built in 1974. The bottom
of the slab (item #7) was a case where without excavating
down and digging back under, there was no way of knowing
where the bottom slab was. In this
particular case, Silvey stated, when re-routing was done from
the primaries and through there, we were trying to match
elevations at either at two or three points and in trying to
get that piping lined up and to have it work, it may not have
been feet worth of difference in elevation on the bottom slab
and in this case, not that many inches were enough to throw
it off to where it did create a problem and a difference in
expense. Silvey stated this was underneath and could not be
measured.
Hayor Hancock asked Silvey if this addition of $24,876 is
provided for in the budget. Silvey stated it is and
apologized to the Board for not bringing additional copies of
the project budget. Silvey said they were still well within
the budget and would bring back other requests at a later
date. The project is close to the end and at least 90%
complete and are down to the point of picking up odds and
ends that had been left basically to the end to make sure
funds would be available to cover them. These costs are
shared by all of the entities and all of the contracts with
the other entities do provide for changes such as this.
Taylor asked about item ~10 and if the water softener had
already been moved from the Digester Building to the
Haintenance Building. Silvey stated yes. Silvey said they had
to move the softener in order to do some things that the city
staff people were extremely anxious to do.
Silvey then asked the Board to consider the next item on the
agenda, the partial substantial completion certificate.
Silvey explained this substantial completion certificate is
different than any other certificate he has brought before
the Board. This one is dated for acceptance for the date of
substantial completion of Harch 15, 1991. Silvey had specific
requests from the city operating staff that they wished to
have access and use of that building last weekend. They had
work they needed to do with an area that was of a greater
area than they had in any of there other buildings. What they
were doing was painting a truck.
There is a list of work to be completed attached to the
substantial completion of work needed to be finished on the
maintenance building with exceptions. Silvey stated the
contractors were trying to get all the work completed and not
have any exceptions so it was a case of trying to work with
the operation staff so they would be able to get in and use
the building at a time they deemed they needed it very badly.
City Attorney Andrews asked Don Silvey if it was his
recommendation, for the record, as to item ~8, this change
order as the architect engineer, that the Board approve the
change order request in eleven parts as presented? Silvey
stated it was his recommendation for the Board to approve
change order ~4 with all eleven parts as presented.
Hayor Hancock moved that the Board accept the recommendation
of the engineer to accept change order ~4 in eleven parts as
presented in the net change of an add of $24,876. The motion
was seconded by
Taylor. Hancock and Taylor voted aye. Walker voted nay.
Hotion carried.
CERTIFICATE OF SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION/WASTEWATER TREATMENT
PLANT IMPROVEMENTS/PROJECT #S8815: Silvey stated this
certificate picked up the sludge thickener feed pump, the
thickened sludge pump and the maintenance building. The
exceptions to the building are not major items (list attached
to the substantial completion certificate) but are items that
he will continue to make sure are completed. Silvey
recommended the execution of the certificate of substantial
completion to the Board.
Billy Walker moved to approve the certificate of substantial
completion. The motion was seconded by Taylor. Ail members
voted aye. Hotion carried.
Walker asked for a date for completion. Silvey stated he
thought it would be done within the next 60 to 90 days but
the contract still has 8 more months.
Hayor Hancock then requested a motion to authorize her to
sign this certificate. Walker so moved. Taylor seconded that
motion. Ail members voted aye. Hotion carried.
ROLLING MEADOWS AND WALTER~S ROLLING ACRES
SEWER IMPROVEMENT PROJECT/PERMISSION FOR AN ASSIGNMENT OF
SUBCONTRACTOR: Don Silvey explained to the Board that at the
time the city bid this project, F.E. Harding Paving Company,
was awarded the low bid. F.E. Harding does not want to do
this work now. They have contacted and worked out an
agreement with Atlas Excavating, who, Silvey stated, is a
qualified water and sewer contractor. Harding would still do
the paving and restoration work and they would still be
responsible and under their bonds for all work. As part oP
the contract documents, the city requires that the contractor
not subcontract more than 50% of the work without BPW
approval. Silvey recommended the approval of Atlas as the
subcontractor. Billy Walker so moved. Mayor Hancock seconded
the motion. Ail members voted aye. Hotion carried.
ADDITION OF THREE ITEMS TO THE AGENDA BY MAYOR HANCOCK CALL
FOR A 10 MINUTE RECESS: Mayor Hancock moved to add the
following three items to the agenda and requested a 10 minute
recess before they were discussed. The items were:
1. Use of City Hall after hours.
2. State tax exempt number.
3. Water and Sewer Utility budgets.
The motion was seconded by Taylor. Ail members voted aye.
Hotion carried.
There was a 10 minute recess.
USE OF CITY HALL AFTER HOURS: Mayor Hancock asked for
direction from the Board on use of city hall after hours.
Hancock stated there hasn't been a policy but perhaps it is
now needed. The building has been used specifically for
governmental use only and has not been open to outside
groups. The mayor said the city is now getting into a problem
where weddings are being held in the building. It creates
extra staff because rice, lights are being left on and is a
cost to the city but the city is not being reimbursed. The
mayor stated there are only three people who have the
authority to perform weddings and the mayor guessed her
thinking is if you don't have a problem, maybe what we need
to do is keep the policy and perhaps make it a written policy
about groups other than governmental groups using the
building for meetings and also that weddings be held in our
private offices unless the Board gives specific permission.
The mayor went on to say the building has even been left
unlocked and felt this was bad policy.
Walker quoted his favorite Bible verse that said, "God so
loved the world, he didn't form a committee." Walker stated
in this instance he thought the Board ought to get some
feedback from some other cities of comparable size or even
larger as to what their policies are. Walker thought that if
weddings are being done here where rice or bird seed is being
thrown, there ought to be a cost. He said the school charges
a fee.
Mayor Hancock stated one of the problems was that Dave
Brandt, the janitor, has been doing all this work and there
is no money in the budget for overtime. Hancock said that
regardless, the budget probably needs to be changed in order
to pay the janitor after fees are received. The mayor stated
a line item needs to be established for overtime for this
position.
Andrews asked what would be wrong with establishing a
maintenance fee to charge for weddings that would cover the
cost of the janitorial service.
Taylor said the janitor should schedule and coordinate these
activities. The three people who do these weddings should
coordinate that with Da~e.
Hancock said she would have her staff research this and come
back with a report at a later date.
STATE TAX EXEMPT NUMBER: Mayor Hancock asked the clerk-
treasurer what the status was on getting the state tax exempt
number.
Jones stated she talked with the State Sales Tax Department
today and they said the application has been processed and
the number is in the mail.
Hancock said she was told it would take 6 to 8 weeks unless
someone went downtown and applied for it in person.
Jones said she didn't know anything about that but the girl
she talked with today assured her the number was in the mail.
1991 UTILITY BUDGETS: Mayor Hancock said that according to
the ordinance, the Board submits the budget to the Council.
The Board has had a chance to look at this and it has been
put together by the utilities manager and H.J. Umbaugh.
Hancock stated that the budget this year, in both instances,
has just gone up a few dollars or even gone down from last
year's budget. Hancock said there was money unspent in both
those budgets. That was one of the reasons, Umbaugh was hired
to look at this overall.
Taylor wanted it clearly stated for the record, that the
reason Umbaugh was hired and why they were engaged, was to
review the budgets since there was a surplus for the last two
fiscal years. This was Taylor's understanding and asked the
Hayor to confirm that understanding. Hayor Hancock said yes
it certainly has.
The mayor felt very good about the results that were being
proposed.
Taylor wanted it stated for the record that it has always
been the intention of this Board to provide a budget and that
is why they engaged Umbaugh and Associates. Mayor Hancock
said she thought that was so.
Walker asked Silvey which budget was up and which one was
down. Mayor Hancock answered that for Silvey stating that
sewer was up slightly and water was down. Walker said that
basically we were spending about what was spent last year
between the two budgets.
Silvey said the budgeting was about the same as last year but
spending was a little bit more in some areas and a little
less in others. Silvey stated that last year spending was
significantly under budget.
Walker asked Silvey if he saw a need for a rate increase.
Silvey stated no. Walker thought that was an important point
for the press to hit especially since everyone is complaining
about all the spending in the city. Walker had no problems
with either the water or sewer budgets and recommended that
the budgets be forwarded for their endorsement.
Taylor stated if that was a motion, he would second that
motion. Walker said it was. Ail members voted aye. Hotion
carried.
BULLETIN FROM STATE BOARD OF ACCOUNTS David Taylor stated he
received a copy of a bulletin put out by the State Board of
Accounts from the clerk-treasurer's office, entitled "Feuding
and Fighting Prohibited Among Elected Officials, Appointed
Officials." This bulletin addresses the State Board of
After the clerk-treasurer read the bulletin, Mayor Hancock said she
thought it was very good advice and henceforth everything would go
to Steve Andrews.
There being no further information before the Board the meeting was
duly adjourned.
Respectfully submittedf~k
/~s~n-W. Jones, Cler~reasurer
Approved:
Presiding ~f.f-'icef
/s~-n W. Jones, Clerk-~surer