HomeMy WebLinkAboutCCM-05-18-92CARMEL CITY COUNCIL
MEETING MINUTES
MAY 18, 1992
7:00 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS/ONE CIVIC SQUARE
The meeting of the Carmel City Council was called to order by
Mayor Ted Johnson. Council members in attendance were Jim Quinn,
Frank Fleming, Alan Potasnik, Luci Snyder, Chris Painchaud, and
Tim Story. Tom Kendall was absent. Clerk-Treasurer Susan W. Jones
was also in attendance.
The invocation was given by Councilman Quinn, followed by the
Pledge of Allegiance.
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RECOGNITION OF OUTSTANDING CITIZENS:
Fleming made a motion to approve the
MINUTES: MAY 4, 1992:
minutes of May 4, 1992. The motion was seconded by Snyder. All
members voted aye. Motion carried.
RECOGNITION OF CITIZENS WHO WISH TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL:
Marshall Andich, 11 S. Rangeline Road, made a
CARMEL DOWNTOWN PARK:
presentation outlining the need for parking in the downtown Carmel
area. Andich asked the Council to consider conversion of the
Carmel Downtown Park which, he felt, had virtually no use. Andich
reviewed various parking needs for downtown business versus
available parking facilities in the downtown Carmel area and
presented a petition requesting Council consideration to convert
the Carmel Downtown Park to a parking lot.
Sam Yau, 11 W. Main Street, presented a suggested plan to convert
the Carmel Downtown Park to a parking lot. The plans included two
schemes, the first, a partial conversion and the second, a complete
conversion. Yau stated he believed it was his duty to make every
attempt to help the downtown Carmel businesses resolve their
parking problems.
Discussion concerning the downtown area ensued among Council
members. Johnson stated the preliminary presentation by Ball State
University, to study downtown revitalization, indicated there was
too much controversy among the citizens involved to proceed with
the study. Johnson stated Ball State withdrew based on their
findings from their preliminary presentation. Johnson stated it
would be imperative for the businesses, residents and patrons of
Downtown Carmel to begin to help themselves by attempting to
establish common goals before the City would be able to help.
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Painchaud stated the Council would take the request under
advisement to determine what type of response could be formulated
after further study. Johnson stated a comment about where the City
would consider going with this problem would be made at the next
meeting.
Lisa Durnil, Larry Wesmer and Shep Cutler,
WOODLAND TRACE:
representing the Woodland Trace Apartment complex, presented a
petition and appealed to the Council for a traffic light between
Rangeline Road and Keystone Avenue on 116TH Street. The residents
stated due to the volume and speed of traffic on 116TH Street it
was extremely dangerous and practically impossible to leave the
building complex and head east. Woodland Trace manager,
Lisa Durnil stated several attempts to request action had failed.
The residents stated accidents and near-accidents have alarmed them
enough to beg the Council's consideration of a traffic light to
slow traffic and give them the opportunity to safely leave their
homes. Discussion took place among Council members concerning the
area. Story made a motion to direct the City Engineer to complete
a traffic study and to advise the Council of his recommendation
when the study was completed. The motion was seconded by Potasnik.
All members voted aye. Motion carried. Potasnik asked for an
additional study at a selected entrance to the Keystone Shopping
Center along 116TH Street.
Kathi Puntenney, President of Habitat for
HABITAT FOR HUMANITY:
Humanity, Hamilton County, Inc., addressed the Council and stated
the goal of the organization was to eliminate poverty housing
throughout Hamilton County. Puntenney stated people from all walks
of life set aside their differences of race, religion and creed
because people agree that everyone should have a decent place to
live. Puntenney stated people who qualified for homes were those,
the organization believed, to be living in sub-standard housing and
who cannot qualify for a normal conventional mortgage. Puntenney
stated Habitat for Humanity did not accept donations from
government entities but would accept land donations and waivers of
any fees required for building construction.
Puntenney stated Habitat for Humanity needed to make the necessary
contacts to help encourage county-wide participation, particularly
in the Carmel and Fishers area. Puntenney stated fund drives,
telethons and school participation would be critical to the mission
of the organization. Puntenney stated 4% of Hamilton County was
living under the poverty level which justified the need to ask for
financial support and appeal for donations from an area that was
one of the wealthiest in the state of Indiana. Puntenney asked for
support from the citizens, government officials and businesses of
the Carmel area.
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Puntenney stated a family could apply for selection consideration
by writing to PO Box 572, Noblesville, Indiana to request an
application for housing. Puntenney stated the family would be pre-
screened and selected by a committee based on need, income, and
credit history.
Johnson stated Puntenney might like to set up a booth at the 4TH of
July, Carmelfest to make local citizens aware of their efforts in
the county.
Story made a motion to approve the claims of 4/29/92 in
CLAIMS:
the amount of $150,311.47, 4/30/92 in the amount of $349,588.76,
4/30/92 in the amount of $161,156.00 and 5/11/92 in the amount of
$584,355.55. The motion was seconded by Painchaud. Painchaud made
a motion to table the claim dated 4/30/92 in the amount of
$161,156.00 until the City Attorney could answer specific questions
later in the meeting. The motion was seconded by Quinn. All
members voted aye. Motion carried. Call for the question. All
members voted aye. Motion carried.
None.
OLD BUSINESS:
PUBLIC HEARING:
ORDINANCES D-770, D-771, D-772, D-773, D-774, D-775 AND D-776 /
REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATIONS MISCELLANEOUS FUNDS:
Quinn made a motion to introduce Ordinances D-770, D-771, D-772,
D-773, D-774, D-775, D-776 and to dispense with the reading
provided an explanation of the requests were provided. The motion
was seconded by Potasnik.
Mayor Johnson explained the following Ordinances:
D-770: School Lights totaling $15,000.00 from MVH-201 to Street
for 6 lights (2 each) at Mohawk Trail, Forest Dale and
Cherry Tree elementary schools.
D-772: Hoosier Equip. Svc. totaling $3,162.00 from GEN-101 to BPW
for work done in 1991 at the Communications Center for
underground storage tank removal and that was not
encumbered into 1992.
D-773: Hamilton County Economic Development totaling $60,000.00
from GEN-101 to Council for the City's contribution to that
corporation.
D-774: 116TH Gray Road Intersection balance of work totaling
$400,000.00 including the right-of-way from LR&S-202.
D-775: Johnson Controls totaling $1,624.55 from GEN-101 to BPW
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for costs incurred in 1991 that were not encumbered into
1992.
D-776: Contaminated Soil Removal totaling $15,000.00 from GEN-101
to BPW.
Quinn made a motion to withdraw Ordinance D-771 from consideration.
The motion was seconded by Story. All members voted aye. Motion
carried.
Johnson opened the ordinances to public hearing. Hearing no
request to speak, the mayor closed the public hearing and opened
discussion to the Council. Story made a motion to suspend the
rules and act on Ordinances D-770, D-772, D-773, D-774, D-775 and
D-776. The motion was seconded by Quinn. All members voted aye.
Motion carried.
Discussion of the ordinances occurred among Council members. Call
for the question. All members voted aye. Motion carried.
NEW BUSINESS:
ORDINANCE D-799 / AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING NO-SMOKING AREAS IN
Story made a motion to introduce Ordinance
CARMEL RESTAURANTS:
D-799 an ordinance to provide no-smoking areas in restaurants in
Carmel, Indiana. Story read the ordinance. The motion was
seconded by Painchaud.
James Steckley, Carmel, Indiana appealed to the Council to allow
the restaurant owner to determine the no-smoking accommodations for
their own patrons. Steckley stated the proposed ordinance exceeded
federal, local and state norms for restaurants. Steckley stated he
provided 16 seats non-smoking on a regular basis out of 225 seats,
which 99% of the time was more than adequate. Steckley stated 23%
were set aside on Mother's Day and they were never entirely used
that day. Steckley stated the policy of the restaurant was to
request smoking or non-smoking and to provide non-smoking when
required. Steckley stated the proposed ordinance would burden the
restaurant owners to meet a need that was not required by patrons
making Carmel restaurants victims of competitive restaurants in the
area.
Steckley stated the Council was exceeding their authority by
placing a required percentage of seats aside that would never be
used. Steckley stated he hoped the Council would allow the
restaurant owners to meet the needs of their own patrons, since it
would be obvious if they were not meeting their patrons smoking and
non-smoking needs they would be out of business.
John Livengood, representing the Restaurant & Hospitality
Association of Indiana, asked the Council to consider allowing the
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restaurant owners to accommodate the needs of their own patrons.
Livengood stated flat percentages like the 50% shown in the
ordinance before the Council was extremely difficult to enforce.
Livengood stated white-cloth, fast-food, cafeteria, casual dining
and tavern-type restaurants all drew different clientele with
individual needs.
Livengood stated by forcing all types of restaurants to meet the
Council's criteria for non-smoking areas could financially burden
the individual owner who would be unable to meet the needs of their
own patrons based on the City ordinance. Livengood stated local
government dictating this type of legislation has back-fired in
many communities, because government officials were not in tune
with the needs of the community. Livengood asked the Council to
appreciate the fact that the Carmel restaurants survival depended
on the individual owners ability to accommodate their patrons.
Livengood asked the Council to allow the Carmel restaurants to
determine and meet the needs of their customers and to not dictate
the needs of their customers through legislation. Livengood asked
the Council to consider the legislation burden placed on
restaurants from the American Disabilities Act and FDA and to not
add yet one more restriction which could financially burden one of
the main parts of the fabric of the Carmel community, its
restaurants.
Quinn stated his support for Ordinance D-799 and read a statement
from Councilman Kendall supporting the ordinance.
Snyder and Potasnik stated the impact of the ordinance should be
seriously considered, along with more input from Carmel restaurant
owners and more detail concerning definitions of "restaurant" in
the ordinance. Fleming stated he was reluctant to pass this type
of law on the City level and stated this type of legislating should
be made by the State Board of Health. Fleming stated he did not
want to impose on the rights of the owners and if those owners were
not meeting the needs of their patrons, they could choose not to
patronize those restaurants.
Johnson stated Ordinance D-799 would be brought back to the next
meeting for a second reading.
Johnson asked City Attorney, Steve Brown, who had the
CLAIMS:
authority to disperse funds for the Carmel-Clay Parks Board. Brown
stated the state statute allows the entity who contributes the
larger share of funds to control funds. Brown stated the Council
was entitled to contract-away those rights when entering into a
joinder agreement. Brown stated the joinder agreement was renewed
annually and would be reconsidered this fall. Brown stated the
Council would be bound by the agreement until the joinder was
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reconsidered in the fall of 1992. Story made a motion to approve
the claim dated 4-30-92 for $161,156.00. The motion was seconded
by Painchaud. Five members voted aye. Quinn voted nay. Motion
carried.
Story, Quinn and Painchaud reiterated their vow to allow the City
to control the funds for the Carmel-Clay Parks Board with the next
joinder agreement, as long as the City of Carmel contributed the
major portion of funds to the agreement.
OTHER BUSINESS:
City of Carmel
PRESENTATION OF CITY NEWSLETTER - THE ARTISAN:
Press Secretary, Rick Myers presented the first issue of the City
employee newsletter, The Artisan to the Council and thanked the
Council for providing the funds for its development.
Quinn asked the City Attorney about an
TERM LIMITATION ORDINANCE:
ordinance he requested, limiting the terms of City Council members.
Brown stated research into the legality of the ordinance was still
underway, but would be ready by the next Council meeting.
Story requested an amendment to the
AGENDA ORDINANCE AMENDMENT:
agenda placement Ordinance D-748 (City Code Chapter 3, Section 3-
18) to include between #7 and #8 the section entitled "Reports from
Council Committees". Quinn volunteered to draft the ordinance as
requested by Councilman Story.
Potasnik thanked the Hamilton
HAMILTON COUNTY PROGRESS COMMITTEE:
County Progress Committee for the fine program and speakers
provided during their Public Finance Education Conference held
earlier that week.
Potasnik asked for an addition to the June 1,
CARMEL HIGH SCHOOL:
1992 agenda to honor the Carmel High School students who won the
Academic All Star Team competition.
Jones stated the June 1, 1992 City Council
AGENDA DEADLINE:
meeting agenda deadline would be 12:00 noon, Tuesday, May 26, 1992.
There being no further business before the Council or
ADJOURNMENT:
requests from the public to speak, the meeting was duly adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
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Susan W. Jones, Clerk-Treasurer
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ATTEST: T.E. Johnson, Presiding Officer
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Susan W. Jones, Clerk-Treasurer
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ATTEST: T.E. Johnson, Mayor
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Susan W. Jones, Clerk-Treasurer
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