HomeMy WebLinkAboutBPW-03-09-94CARMEL BOARD OF PUBLIC WORKS
MARCH 9, 1994
6:15 P.M.
CARMEL CITY HALL/ONE CIVIC S QUARE/COUNCIL CHAMBERS
The meeting of the Carmel Board of Public Works was called to order
by member Steve Brown. Board member Rick McKinney was in
attendance and Mayor Ted Johnson was absent. Clerk-Treasurer Susan
Jones and City Attorney Gordon Byers were also in attendance.
SEWER AVAILABILITY AND 2 CURB CUTS/WORLD-WIDE MOTORS/96TH STREET:
Rick McKinney made a motion to approve sewer availability in the
amount of 4.43 EDU's as per the sewer ordinance not to exceed the
average daily flow of 1,329 gallons. The motion also included two
curb cuts onto Marie Drive. The motion was seconded by Steve
Brown. All members voted aye. Motion carried.
SEWER AND WATER AVAILABILITY FOR QUAIL RUN AT HAVERSTICK, SECTION
Steve Brown made a motion to approve water and sewer
1:
availability in the amount of 59 EDU's each not to exceed an
average daily flow of 17,700 gallons as per sewer and water
ordinance contingent upon the property being annexed into the City
and construction begin within 12 months of said approval. The
motion was seconded by Rick McKinney. All members voted aye.
Motion carried.
SEWER AND WATER AVAILABILITY FOR UNION 76/ENVIRO-MART, 116TH AND
Steve Brown made a motion to grant a different
RANGELINE ROAD:
amount of sewer and water availability than was granted at the
February 23, 1994 BPW meeting. The new amount of availability
would be 4.4 EDU's. The motion was seconded by Rick McKinney. All
members voted aye.
Since the previous meeting, Mr. Johnson has decided to install
different equipment which will recycle the water and possibly cause
his usage to be 40,000 gallons per month or 4.4 EDU's which will
amount to a total fee of $3,552 rather than $8,896. The $3,552
would be the fee Mr. Johnson wants to pay now and then settle up
after 12 months of actual usage.
Carmel Police
PEBSCO CONTRACT/PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE 457 PLAN:
Chief Roger Conn addressed the Board with proposed amendments to
the current PEBSCO 457 deferred compensation plan. Conn's
recommendations for the amendments were as follows:
1. Amend the PEBSCO contract for non-elective contributions
to eliminate the hardship clause.
2. Amend the PEBSCO contract for all elective contributions
to designate the Board of Public Works and Safety as the
committee to determine hardships.
3. Amend the PEBSCO contracts for both elective and non-
elective contributions to read that the Plan Administrator
would be the Board of Public Works in place of the
Clerk-Treasurer and the Clerk-Treasurer will continue
to be responsible for the PEBSCO payroll deductions and
submitting them to PEBSCO.
4. Notify PEBSCO of these amendments to the plans
effective, April 1, 1994.
Steve Brown asked why the hardship clause was being removed from
the plan.
Conn explained that he wanted to remove the hardship clause from
the non-elective plan to insure the money would be there at
retirement and to preserve the original idea behind the deferred
compensation as a social security replacement when the police opted
out of social security years ago.
Steve Brown asked Conn if that is what the people want. Conn
replied he wasn't sure but that is way it was originally set up.
Conn also explained the proposal of the BPW being the hardship
committee. Conn explained that at this time, PEBSCO was reviewing
all the hardship cases.
Before discussion took place between the members of the Board, the
Clerk-Treasurer stated for the record that she didn't believe she
ever was the plan administrator and even if she was, she had
resigned that position last week and did not wish to remain in that
job until April 1, 1994. Jones explained there was a 60 day clause
for a resignation of a Plan Administrator but that was in the
Lincoln National 457 plan and not the PEBSCO plan.
Conn said the only reason they put the April 1st date was so that
he could make sure all the paperwork was appropriately signed and
there was someone watching over it. Conn said Jones was correct
that the BPW could waive the 60 period.
Jones stated there wasn't anything for the BPW to waive because
there is no 60 day waiting period in the PEBSCO plan. Jones also
stated the City doesn't have any documents signed stating she is
the Plan Administrator in the first place so what would make the
difference whether the BPW has signed paperwork or not because
there isn't signed paperwork now.
The clerk also stated that the contracts were not numbered #1408
and #1420 as the Chief had suggested and that #1408 and #1420 were
not plan numbers. The numbers 1408 and 1420 were only account
numbers assigned at the request of the her office in order to keep
tabs on the elective and non-elective amounts being deposited but
there was only one plan document for PEBSCO.
The clerk also stated for the record that the police were never in
social security. The police opted to not join social security and
have a 457 plan instead.
Rick McKinney said he saw copies where there was a 60 day waiting
period for the termination of a Plan Administrator. Jones stated
that was not the plan document for PEBSCO but was the plan document
for Lincoln National. She said she originally thought the same
thing but since that time Lincoln National has identified that
document as their original plan.
Steve Brown then moved to approve the proposal as presented and
written with the dates listed. Rick McKinney seconded that motion.
Rick McKinney called for the vote but before a vote was taken
Brown addressed Jones' concerns.
Brown said he wasn't trying to disregard what she had said with
respect to the withdrawal time but he thought it only made sense
and were only two or three weeks from that date any way.
Jones said she also understood but stated the BPW could not make
her do something especially when she wasn't even the Plan
Administrator to begin with and didn't need to be the administrator
until April 1.
Brown said the BPW would take over on April 1 and it would be in no
man's land until that time. Jones said that would be fine. Brown
questioned the clerk on reporting and accounting. Jones assured
the Board that she has to do the reporting and accounting any way
because that money is an asset of the City and she is the
treasurer.
Jones said she didn't like the idea of the Board of Public Works
telling her what she can or can't do when there is no statutory
authority for the Board to do that. Brown said it never hurt to
try.
Brown called for the vote but again no vote was taken because Byers
wanted to convey his concerns about removing the hardship clause.
Gordon Byers was concerned about taking out the hardship
designation. He questioned whether that would be for current
officers or just new officers.
Conn said this will effect all employees that are currently under
the non-elective plan and all new employees as well.
Brown said Gordon had raised a good point with respect to monies
that are already in PEBSCO and wanted to wait until March 21, 1994
to act on this.
Byers said his problem was with this hardship clause being in the
plan from the beginning. Conn said the hardship clause has always
been in the plan but PEBSCO was reviewing the cases. Conn thought,
at this point, that perhaps the hardship clause could remain but
the BPW could review the cases rather than PEBSCO or removal of the
clause totally.
Byers questioned if this clause was always stated in the plan.
Conn said there was always this clause.
Byers said that called upon as the City Attorney he would recommend
that the Board reflect on this and perhaps this is a proprietary
right and to remove it might take some form of notice.
Brown questioned not only the notice but perhaps the hardship
elements are in the IRS code or the regulations and he wasn't sure
the Board could universally do away with it. Brown said if Gordon
could find out about that he would be willing to go along with
removing the hardship clause provided it can be removed and doesn't
interfere with any proprietary rights issues.
Byers said he wanted to review this and asked the Board to remove
that portion of the proposed amendments concerning the elimination
of the hardship clause until he could report back to the BPW.
Jones questioned pushing this back until March 21st because then
the April 1st date would not be appropriate. Jones said if this
item was tabled then no paperwork could be signed and then the BPW
might push everything up until May 1st.
Steve moved to amend his original motion and delete item 1 and only
act on points 2, 3 and 4.
Gordon spoke to Jones and said he appreciated Jones' opinion and
that the record was pretty clear that she maintained and has taken
the position that she is not the administrator and never has been
the administrator on the PEBSCO plans. Jones said that was
correct.
Rick McKinney seconded Brown's motion to amend. All members voted
aye.
No vote was taken on the original motion to approve the amendments
to the PEBSCO plan.
No motion was made by the Board to postpone item 1 of the contract
amendments proposal.
NORTHWEST WATER MAIN IMPROVEMENTS, CONTRACT 5 AND NOTICE TO PROCEED
WITH KAJIMA ENGINEERING AND CONSTRUCTION, INC., AND TRAMCO INC.:
Rick McKinney made a motion to accept a contract and approve a
notice to proceed with Kajima/Tramco-Carmel, a joint venture, for
the northwest water main improvements. The original contract was
for #389,000. The motion was seconded by Steve Brown. All members
voted aye. Motion carried.
ENGINEERING SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH AMENDMENTS WITH DATA LINK
Rick McKinney made a motion to accept the above
SYSTEMS, INC:
referenced agreement with its amendments to Data Link Systems in
order to provide services for three phases of design and
implementation of an electrical control system that will tie all
existing water plants to Plant #5 and control all plants as a
system.
Amendment #1 not to exceed $13,567.95, Amendment #2 not to exceed
$32,066.13 and Amendment 3 not to exceed $71,029.44.
The motion was seconded by Steve Brown. All members voted aye.
Motion carried.
AMENDMENT NO 292 TO JONES AND HENRY ENGINEERING, INC/ $10,000:
Rick McKinney made a motion to approve amendment #292 in the amount
of $10,000 for Jones and Henry Engineering to review the agreements
the City has with Hamilton Western Utilities, Clay Waste District
and the Town of Westfield, review flow charts, request additional
capacity in the North-South Interceptor and to meet with all three
entities. McKinney stated this is a preliminary requirement for
the current overall rate study being done by Katz, Sapper and
Miller.
The motion was seconded by Brown. All members voted aye. Motion
carried.
CLEANING SERVICE CONTRACT FOR CPD HEADQUARTERS/M & R ENTERPRISE:
Rick McKinney made a motion to approve the cleaning service
contract with M & R Enterprise. The original contract called for
a $1,500 monthly fee payment and this contract called for $750
every two weeks. Chief Conn explained that M & R was being paid in
advance of services rendered and the Clerk-Treasurer and the State
Board of Accounts suggested he amend the way payment was being made
and suggested this method. The motion was seconded by Brown. All
members voted aye. Motion carried.
Steve Brown made a motion to
PROMOTION OF MARIE L. SCHOELLER/CPD:
approve the promotion of Marie Schoeller to Administrative
Assistant II with a base salary of $1,006.62. The motion was
seconded by Rick McKinney. All members voted aye. Motion carried.
Chief Conn stated that right now Marie was working for the SID and
also takes care of the Hamilton County Drug Task Force. Conn said
it has been made clear to this employee that should the federal
grant money cease, sometime in the future, that the Administrative
Assistant II portion of her job description would no longer be
necessary and she would drop back to a 1st Class Civilian with the
Police Department.
Rick McKinney made a motion to
EXECUTIVE SESSION/MARCH 9/1994:
direct the City Attorney to proceed with a private letter ruling to
the IRS with respect to the Haymaker request for withdrawal.
Brown stated this is the decision the Board is now making based on
information received and reviewed in the Executive Session. The
motion was seconded by Brown. All members voted aye. Motion
carried.
REQUEST FROM THE INDIANA POLICE AND FIRE FIGHTERS ASSOCIATION:
Steve Brown moved to defer item 8a until the next meeting or until
it makes a subsequent agenda. McKinney said okay but the motion
was not seconded and no vote was taken on Brown's motion to defer.
(See last paragraph.)
PERMISSION TO USE THE GAZEBO ON JUNE 25, 1994 FOR THE INDIANA DANCE
Steve Brown moved to approve the request by the
AMBASSADORS:
Indiana Dance Ambassadors to use the gazebo on June 15, 1994 from
7:00 p.m. until 9:30 p.m. The motion was seconded by Rick
McKinney. All members voted aye. Motion carried.
Rick
TRAFFIC LIGHT APPROVAL FOR RANGELINE AND EXECUTIVE DRIVE:
McKinney told the petitioner that the Board had not had time to
look at the proposal and would be tabling this item until the next
meeting. No motion was made to table or postpone.
Jones wanted to state
INDIANA POLICE AND FIREFIGHTERS ASSOCIATION:
for the record that she has already talked with the sales people
from Indiana Police and Firefighters Association and that she did
not have a problem with payroll deductions. Jones said her only
problem was with the request for the police and firefighters to
contact her about payroll withholding. Jones said the state law
already allowed her make deductions and she was willing to do that.
Brown said that was okay but he didn't want anything to do with it
and if the BPW was not supposed to be doing it, that was fine.
McKinney said the request was for permission to just talk to the
Clerk-Treasurer and that is all it said.
Jones disagreed and said the permission was for the police and
firemen to talk to the sales people because the payroll
withholdings had already been set up and there was no need for the
employees to talk to her.
Brown moved to table this item. McKinney seconded the motion. All
members voted aye.
There being no further business before the Board the meeting was
duly adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
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Susan W. Jones, Clerk-Treasurer
Approved,
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ATTEST:
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Susan W. Jones, Clerk-Treasurer