HomeMy WebLinkAboutCCM-03-15-99 CARMEL CITY COUNCIL MEETING AGENDA
MONDAY, MARCH 15, 1999 -7 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS / CITY HALL / ONE CIVIC SQUARE
MEETING CALLED TO ORDER
INVOCATION
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
RECOGNITION OF CITY EMPLOYEES AND OUTSTANDING CITIZENS
a. Proclamation of Disabilities Awareness Month
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
a. March 1, 1999, Regular Meeting
RECOGNITION OF PERSONS WHO WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL
a. Presentation of Document; Clerk-Treasurer Diana Cordray
b. Dr. Judy Edwards, Carmel Clay Library Board
COUNCIL, MAYORAL AND CLERK-TREASURER COMMENTS/OBSERVATIONS
ACTION ON MAYORAL VETOES
CLAIMS
· Payroll
· General Claims
· Retiremere
COMMITTEE REPORTS
OLD BUSINESS
a. Second Readinll Ordinance C-197/Annexation of Hamilton Crossing East; Phillip A.
Nicely, Bose McKinney & Evans
*published in The Daily Ledger on FebruatZy 19, 1998
b. Second Readiml Ordinance Z-333/An Ordinance to Amend the Provisions of the
Carmel Clay Zoning Ordinance which Relate to the US Highway 31 Overlay Zone
(Section 23B); Paul Spranger, Carmel Clay Plan Commission/Steve Engelking, DOCS
* published in the Daily Ledger on February 4, 1999 and the Carreel News-Tribtme on
Febrttaty 10, 1999
c. Second Readiml Ordinance D-1407-99, As Amended/An Ordinance Amending Section
4-31 of the Carmel City Code (Pool Tables); Councilor Kevin Kirby
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Second Readinl~ Ordinance D-1408-99/An Ordinance Creating Section 8-38 of the
Carmel City Code (Speed Humps); Councilor Bob Battreall
Second Readinl~ Ordinance D-1409-99, As Amended/An Ordinance Amending
Sections 4-26, 4-43 and 4-52 of the Carmel City Code (Vendor Application Procedure);
Clerk-Treasurer Diana Cordray
PUBLIC HEARING
NEW BUSINESS
a. First Readinl~ Ordinance D-1410-99/An Ordinance Renumbering Section 2-72 and
Making Other Housekeeping Corrections to the Carmel City Code; City Attorney
Douglas C. Haney
b. Resolution CC-03-01-99-04/A Resolution Opposing the Addition of Any Members to
the Carmel Common Council That Are Not City Residents and Not Properly Elected by
City Residents; Councilor Luci Snyder
c. Resolution CC-03-15-99-01/Resolution Approving Payment of Construction Costs for
Hazel Dell Parkway ($70,268.47); Kate Boyle-Weese, City Engineer
d. Limousine License Renewal; John Sullivan, Best Limo Service, Inc.; Clerk-Treasurer
Diana L. Cordray
OTHER BUSINESS
ANNOUNCEMENTS
EXECUTION OF DOCUMENTS
16. ADJOURNMENT
CARMEL CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES
MONDAY, MARCH 15, 1999 -7 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS / CITY HALL / ONE CIVIC SQUARE
MEMBERS PRESENT: Mayor James Brainard; Council President Luci Snyder; Councilors Kevin
Kirby, Jim Miller, Bob Battreall, Norm Rundle and Ron Carter. Deputy Clerk Rebecca Martin also
attended. Councilor Billy Walker was absent.
Mayor Brainard called the meeting to order at 7:02 p.m. Councilor Carter gave the invocation. Mayor
Brainard led the Pledge of Allegiance.
RECOGNITION OF CITY EMPLOYEES AND OUTSTANDING CITIZENS: Mayor Brainard
called forward Robert Bill, director of Janus Developmental Services, Inc., and proclaimed March
National Disabilities Month.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Councilor Rundle moved to approve the March 1, 1999, regular meeting
minutes. Councilor Snyder seconded. The minutes were approved 5-0. Councilor Battreall abstained.
RECOGNITION OF PERSONS WHO WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL:
Judy Edwards, the council's appointment to the Carmel Clay Public Library Board, handed information
to the council (Exhibit A) and spoke about the progress of the library.
Sallie Peeler, 1136 Hialea Court, discussed issues regarding parks with the council (Exhibit B).
Russ Macdonald, 10905 Westfield Boulevard, asked why the tunnel underneath 126th Street for the
Morton Trail was to the west of the trail, not on it. Mr. Macdonald also presented information from
several sources about negotiations for the purchase of the land on which 126th Street was built. He asked
the mayor to explain if the land had been purchased, and if so, for how much.
Councilors discussed whether the mayor should address Mr. Macdonald now or wait until the next
section of the agenda. Councilors decided it was appropriate to wait until the next section.
Roger Conn, 736 E. Main Street, stated the newsletter from the City was really a campaign letter in
disguise. He also stated the City's operating balance was much lower than the City led citizens to
believe.
Dick Frost, 507 Stonehedge Drive, commended City employees for their hard work removing snow and
talked about the City's taxes (Exhibit C).
Mark Rattermann, president of the Clay West Action Council, explained the genesis of Senate Bill 628.
He explained that CWAC wanted to resolve the problem of Carmel City Council voting on zoning issues
for western Clay Township when the residents living there had no representation on council. He stated it
was not the organization' s intent for the bill to read as it does in its current form, but that CWAC
accepted the compromise to add four members to Carmel Council. He stated that CWAC never intended
to usurp the council' s authority. Mr. Rattermann asked the council to make a formal statement of
whether it would support Clay West residents forming their own town.
COUNCIL, MAYORAL AND CLERK-TREASURER COMMENTS/OBSERVATIONS:
Councilor Miller stated several of his constituents were concerned about the disparity in the cost of trash
removal. He stated that Ted Sholeff of BFI was supposed to be here this evening but couldn't because
his father had had a heart-attack. Councilor Miller stated that citizens who were concerned about the
cost of trash pick-up could call Mr. Sholeff at 823-6881, Ext. 539.
Mayor Brainard responded to Mr. Macdonald's questions. He explained the City had placed the tunnel
several feet west of the Monon so it wasn't covering the fiberoptic cable. He then explained the legal
procedure for purchasing land for a new road and the laws that dictated building the road. The mayor
also explained that the documents signed by the BPW and the Redevelopment Commission at their
previous meeting were for the purchase price of the Mueller property on which the 126th Street
extension was built, not for approval of the contracts. The mayor then responded to Mr. Conn's
comments on the operating balance of the City.
Councilor Kirby responded to Mr. Frost's comments against the council for budgeting by additional
appropriations. He stated this council took a stand against that kind of budgeting and planned to use
additional appropriations only for emergencies. He also stated the two items listed on the agenda under
Citizens Who Wish to Address the Council should have been listed under Committee Reports.
CLAIMS:
Councilor Snyder moved to approve claims for $197,800.83, $356,970.34 and $188,390.96. Councilor
Battreall seconded. Claims were approved 5-0. Councilor Rundle had left the room.
OLD BUSINESS:
Mayor Brainard announced Ordinance C- 197, annexation of Hamilton Crossing East. Ordinance C- 197
was approved 4-0. Councilor Battreall abstained because he was absent from the previous meeting.
Councilor Rundle was out of the room.
Councilor Rundle returned to the meeting.
Mayor Brainard announced Ordinance Z-333, an ordinance amending the provisions of the Carmel Clay
Zoning Ordinance that relate to the US 31 Overlay Zone, Section 23B. Councilor Carter moved to
amend the zoning ordinance as revised by the Department of Community Services (DOCS). Councilor
Snyder seconded. The mayor stated that state law required an amended zoning ordinance to go back to
plan commission.
Steve Engelking, DOCS director, explained each of the amendments and stated they were made so the
ordinance would conform to the council's wishes. He answered questions from the council.
Councilor Carter commended the DOCS staff and recommended an amendment to 23B. 5A. specifically
excluding typical fast food restaurants. Councilor Snyder seconded. Councilors discussed the best way
to word the amendment. Mayor Brainard recommended that Councilor Carter amend his motion to add
the words and &ive-thru window sales of food after the words fast food restaurants. Councilors Carter
and Snyder amended their motions to consist of the language recommended by the mayor. The amended
ordinance was approved 6-0. Mr. Engelking stated he would ensure the ordinance was returned to plan
commission in time for its first meeting in April.
Mayor Brainard announced Ordinance D-1407-99, an ordinance amending Section 4-31 of the Carmel
City Code regarding pool tables. He explained that this ordinance would remove the licensing fee and
eliminate the requirement that pool tables must be seen from outside the premises. He stated the City
Code currently contained an outdated law from the Prohibition era. Councilor Kirby suggested deleting
all of Section 4-31, stating the City probably wouldn't enforce the proposed ordinance which required
proprietors to be responsible for ensuring their patrons complied with curfew law. Councilor Kirby
moved to delete Section 4-31 from the City Code. Councilor Snyder seconded. City Attorney Douglas
C. Haney confirmed the only item addressed in Section 4-31 was pool tables. Councilor Rundle stated
he wasn't necessarily opposed to imposing the responsibility of curfew compliance on the proprietor.
Councilor Carter called for the question. The amendment was approved 4-0. Councilors Battreall and
Rundle abstained. Councilor Carter called for the question. The amended ordinance was approved 4-0.
Councilors Battreall and Rundle abstained.
Mayor Brainard announced Ordinance D-1408-99, an ordinance creating Section 8-38 of the Carmel
City Code regarding speed humps. Councilor Battreall asked the council to table the ordinance. He
stated he, the street commissioner and city engineer were refining the wording. Councilor Battreall
moved to table the ordinance. Councilor Miller seconded. Ordinance D-1408-99 was tabled 6-0.
Mayor Brainard announced Ordinance D-1409-99, an ordinance amending Sections 4-26, 4-43 and 4-52
of the Carmel City Code regarding the vendor application procedure. Ordinance D-1409-99 was
approved 6-0.
NEW BUSINESS:
Mayor Brainard announced Ordinance D- 1410-99, an ordinance renumbering Section 2-72 and making
other housekeeping corrections to the Carmel City Code. Councilor Rundle moved to introduce the
ordinance. Councilor Kirby seconded. Ordinance D- 1410-99 was carried over to the next meeting.
Mayor Brainard announced Resolution CC-03-01-99-04, a resolution of the Carmel Common Council
stating its opposition to adding four non-elected members to the council to vote on zoning items.
Councilor Snyder explained she had put together this resolution to provide an official response to Senate
Bill 628. She explained the City and Clay Township regularly have signed joinder agreements for
services such as zoning and fire protection since 1960, and that these agreements are renewed yearly.
She stated the Township has always had the ability to change the provision in the zoning agreement that
allows the plan commission and then the city council to make zoning decisions for western Clay
Township. Councilor Snyder offered three solutions for residents in western Clay Township: 1 ) break
the joinder agreement and be under the county's planning jurisdiction; 2) break the joinder agreement
and form a municipality; or 3) ask to be annexed by the City of Carmel because state law mandates that
the City has to accept the application for annexation. Councilor Snyder stated she was not against
annexation, but that she was opposed to annexing without the proper information.
Councilor Kirby stated he wasn't sure that appointing representatives to an elected council was legal. He
also stated the City needed to work with people in Clay West to learn their fears and concerns, stating
that Mr. Rattermann was mostly concerned about the road situation, not tax issues. Councilor Kirby
stated that Clay West forming it's own city probably was not the best option and stated the City had
been clear about not doing any forced annexations. He added that the council wanted to hear feedback
from CWAC. Councilor Snyder talked about the Residential Open Space Ordinance, several plans
coming through plan commission under this ordinance and its benefits for all of Clay Township.
Councilor Miller stated he was proud of Carmel and considered members of Clay West part of Carmel.
He stated he wanted to take time to achieve the best results for everyone, but that he did not favor
adding appointed members to the council. He stated he wanted to receive more information about Clay
West incorporating. Councilor Snyder moved to introduce the resolution. Councilor Kirby seconded.
At the council' s request, Mr. Rattermann explained that Mike Claytor, an accountant and resident of
Clay West, figured what it would cost residents to form their own town. Mr. Rattermann explained that
if the Village of WestClay was annexed into Carmel, Clay West would lose the heart of its proposed
city, which was from 96th Street to the Boone County line to 146th Street to Spring Mill Road. Councilor
Carter pointed out the irony that if Clay West residents chose to incorporate, they would have to do the
equivalent of a hostile annexation in bringing the Village of WestClay into their town.
Councilor Carter also stated the bill before the legislature was problematic and didn't solve the problem,
which was Clay West' s need for infrastructure. He suggested taking one or two months to examine the
figures. Councilor Kirby stated the council was willing to work with Clay West residents to solve the
problem. Mayor Brainard thanked Mr. Rattermann for coming and agreed the City wanted to work with
the homeowners in Clay West. Mr. Rattermann asked the council to make a formal statement at the next
meeting as to whether it would support Clay West forming its own town. Councilor Battreall stated that
two weeks was not enough time to make that kind of decision. Councilor Kirby suggested the council
could have a special meeting with Clay West residents to discuss the issue. Councilor Battreall and Mr.
Rattermann discussed how many people of western Clay Township CWAC represented.
Councilor Battreall moved to open the meeting to other citizens who wished to speak on this topic.
Councilor Kirby seconded. The motion was approved 6-0.
Jose Kreutz, Brenwick Development, stated the Village of WestClay had no intention of belonging to
any other municipality besides the City of Carmel. He stated that Brenwick would oppose attempts to be
annexed by another municipality (Exhibit D).
Wayne Wilson, 24 Wilson Drive, stated the City had lost the trust of residents in Clay West, and that
something needed to be done to achieve the best for both sides.
Michael Roccaforte, 11497 Nicole Court, stated he didn't care if he lived in Carmel and said Clay
West's biggest concern was zoning. He confirmed that Clay West residents did not trust the City. Mr.
Roccaforte stated he would feel more comfortable under the jurisdiction of the county plan commission.
Councilors and the mayor discussed the City' s tax rate.
Susan Jennings, 21190 Bayhill Court in Noblesville, dean of the Hamilton County Leadership
Committee, stated this issue was not just a Clay West and City of Carmel issue. She stated that what was
decided on this issue in the next several months would have precedence for the rest of the county. She
stated that the senate bill represented only a small portion of residents in Clay West and that the council
should not even discuss this issue unless it received a formal petition from residents in the township.
Mr. Macdonald stated he was surprised councilors were unaware that township residents didn't trust
them.
No one else from the public wished to speak.
Councilor Snyder stated the cost estimates she had seen for Clay West to incorporate were inaccurate
and need to be refined. Resolution CC-03-01-99-04 was approved 4-0.
Councilor Battreall moved to approve Resolution CC-03-15-99-01, a resolution approving payment of
construction costs for Hazel Dell Parkway ($70,268.47). Councilor Carter seconded. Resolution CC-03-
15 -99-01 was approved 6-0.
Councilor Battreall moved to approve the Request to Renew Limousine License by John Sullivan, Best
Limo Service, Inc. Councilor Carter seconded. The Limousine License was renewed 6-0.
ANNOUNCEMENTS:
After discussion about whether to cancel the May 3, 1999, council meeting, Councilor Snyder moved to
cancel the meeting. Councilor Miller seconded. Mayor Brainard stated he would work with Clerk-
Treasurer Cordray to schedule a special meeting to approve claims.
Councilor Snyder moved at 9:35 p.m. to adjourn the meeting after documents were signed. Councilor
Battreall seconded.
Respectfully submitted,
Clerk-Treasurer Diana L. Cordray, IAMC
Approved,
Attest:
Mayor James Brainard
Clerk-Treasurer Diana L. Cordray, IAMC