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CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION
January 17, 2006
Minutes
The regularly scheduled meeting of the Carmel Plan Commission met at 6:00 PM, January 17, 2006 in the
Council Chambers of City Hall, Carmel, Indiana. The meeting opened with the Pledge of Allegiance.
Members Present: Jerry Chomanczuk, Leo Dierckman, Wayne Haney, Rick Ripma, Steve Stromquist,
Madeleine Torres, and Susan Westermeier, thereby establishing a quorum.
The minutes of the December 20, 2005 meeting were approved as submitted.
Carol Schleif, Mayoral Appointment, was sworn in as the newest member of the Plan Commission; the
Oath of Office was administered by John Molitor, Legal Counsel.
Election of Officers:
Jerry Chomanczuk was elected President by Unanimous Consent.
Leo Dierckman was elected Vice President by Unanimous Consent.
Susan Westermeier was elected as an At-Large member by Unanimous Consent.
Wayne Haney accepted the appointment to the Hamilton County Plan Commission.
Madeleine Torres was reconfirmed as the Carmel Plan Commission appointment to the Board of Zoning
Appeals.
F. Communications, Bills, Expenditures & Legal Counsel Report:
John Molitor reported that
there is no pending litigation and nothing further to report at this time.
G.Reports, Announcements, & Department Concerns
Matt Griffin reported that the Gateway Pavilion that appeared on the December 20, 2005 Agenda
was continued at that meeting. Since then, however, a new petition has been filed on this project and
it will come before the Commission in February.
Reminder:
The annual Training Session will be held February 4, 2006 at the Village of WestClay;
details will be published soon.
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Matt Griffin gave a brief Overview of the first item of business for the Carmel Redevelopment
Commission Economic Development Area, Parcel 12 on Range Line Road. Parcel 12 is the former
location of the original O’Malia store and bakery. Currently there is a liquor store on the premises.
1G. CRC Economic Development Area: Parcel 12
Richard Starkey, attorney with Barnes & Thornburg, Acting Bond Counsel for the City of Carmel on
this particular project appeared before the Commission. The Redevelopment Commission has
designated Parcel 12 as an Economic Development Area within the City and under the Statute, the
Plan Commission is charged with reviewing this plan and the Declaratory Resolution, then
determining whether or not it conforms to the plan of development for the City of Carmel (the
Comprehensive Plan.) If approved by the Plan Commission, the Resolution would be forwarded to
the City Council and then returned to the Redevelopment Commission for final approval.
John Molitor commented that the role of the Plan Commission is to review the designation and
determine whether or not it conforms to the Comprehensive Plan for the City—not to second-guess
the work of the Redevelopment Commission.
Mr. Starkey reported that Parcel 12 is contemplated to be a PedCor Development of mixed retail,
possible offices.
Leo Dierckman made formal motion to approve the Declaratory Resolution and to confirm that the
Plan for Parcel 12 of the Economic Development Area conforms to the Plan of Development for the
APPROVED
City of Carmel, seconded by Rick Ripma, 8-0.
H.Public Hearings:
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Docket No. 05120012 DP/ADLS: Arden Townhomes
The applicant seeks approval for a 90-unit townhome development on 12.7 acres.
The site is located at 1940 E 136th St. and is zoned PUD/Planned Unit Development.
Filed by Jim Shinaver of Nelson & Frankenberger for Buckingham Properties, Inc.
Jim Shinaver, attorney with Nelson & Frankenberger appeared before the Commission representing the
applicant. Also in attendance: David Leazenby and Sarah Nasuti of Buckingham Properties; Engineer Rich
Kelly of EMH&T Engineering; Matt Brown, Traffic Engineer with A&F Engineering; and Kenny Wynder of
Ryland Homes—proposed builder for this site.
Buckingham Properties is seeking Development Plan and ADLS approval for a residential townhome
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development on the real estate located at 1940 East 136 Street. The property is north of and adjacent to 136
Street; west of and adjacent to the Carmel High School Football Stadium; south of and adjacent to the Cool
Creek Apartments, and east of Range Line Road. This property was recently re-zoned to PUD/Planned Unit
Development by the City Council.
Located north of and adjacent to the parcel is the future Cool Creek Trail extension. The southern portion of
the site contains the ingress/egress point for vehicular traffic. The townhome units and buildings will be
located on the eastern portion of the site. The petitioner is also preserving approximately 3.5 acres of wooded
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area on the western portion of the site—delineated as a tree conservation area on the site plan. The project will
consist of 90 townhome units and including “banked” parking spaces, the guest parking ratio is 4.88 parking
spaces per unit.
The color landscape plan for the project shows the internal plantings, the perimeter plantings, and the base of
building landscape plantings. In addition to the tree conservation area that will exist on the western portion of
the site, there is significant internal plantings along the internal roadways as well as base building landscaping.
The petitioner is also providing a bike/pedestrian access to their site on the northern portion of the property
that will allow bicyclists and pedestrians to access the future Cool Creek extension. In addition to the access
from the site to the Cool Creek Trail, the petitioner has agreed with the City of Carmel to assist in the
construction of an off-site trail adjacent to their eastern property line that will consist of a 12-foot asphalt path
that will also provide another means of access to the Cool Creek Trail, just east of the site on real estate that is
actually owned by the School Board. However, the petitioner has been in discussion with the School Board
and others and an arrangement can be worked out to assist in constructing the 12-foot asphalt trail that can
wrap and provide access to the Cool Creek Trail extension. Once the Cool Creek Trail is completed and
extended, it would go in a westerly direction toward Range Line Road that is intended to provide a semi-
connection to the Monon Trail.
The front Building elevations will consist of brick; the side elevations will contain brick along the first floor
and the second and third floor elevations will consist of Hardy-Plank. Sarah Nasuti distributed color
elevations to the Commission members. The elevation for the rear-load garage townhome product was also
shown.
The entry-way sign detail consists of a cast stone sign placed within a brick wall that will also include black
aluminum, ornamental fencing. The lighting plan and lighting fixtures was briefly shown, and a copy of the
approved PUD Ordinance with all exhibits is contained in the information packets.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor of or opposition to the petition; no one appeared and the
public hearing was closed.
Department Comments, Matt Griffin: The Department is recommending that this item be referred to the
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Special Studies Committee on February 7 for further discussion. The petitioner is to bring outlined items in
the Department Report to the meeting or make them available to the Staff prior to the meeting
Rick Ripma asked about the elevations that would be visible to the neighbors.
David Leazenby said there is substantial amount of trees that would serve as a buffer between the school
parking lot and the project; the north side would be next to the trail. What would be visible to the public
would be from Smokey Row Road—from the parking lot, the buildings would not be visible; from the trail,
brick would be seen on the first floor of the northern-most unit. David Leazenby said the petitioner would
commit to brick on the first floor of the northern-most units that are visible from the Trail.
Jerry Chomanczuk asked about the flood plain, the detention pond, and how high the banks are—is there any
concern that Cool Creek would flood its banks and overflow the detention ponds. This can be addressed at
Committee.
Carol Schleif asked about foundation plantings and the total amount of landscaping—it seems somewhat
sparse along the trail on the north side.
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David Leazenby responded that he would look at this—it might be an oversight from the landscape architect—
this can also be addressed at Committee.
Sue Westermeier asked about the time frame for the trail to be built in relation to the development and whether
or not there was any problem with emergency access.
David Leazenby said that the petitioner is actually constructing the trail; the School district is giving an
easement to the City and the City is allowing them to build the trail in conjunction with their project. The
construction of the trail will be a two-year project and the trail will be completed before the site is finished
being built—probably this fall. A more specific date can be confirmed at Committee.
Jim Shinaver, attorney noted that this project has had two TAC reviews and access was discussed thoroughly
at that time; however, the access would be double-checked and reported at Committee.
Docket No. 05120012 DP/ADLS, Arden Townhomes
was referred to the Special Studies Committee for
further review on February 7, 2006 in the Caucus Rooms of City Hall, Carmel, Indiana.
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Docket No. 05120018 DP/ADLS: Old Meridian Professional Building
The applicant seeks to create a 2 story, 19,526 sq. ft. medical office building on 2.44 acres.
The site is located at 12065 Old Meridian Street and is zoned B6 within the US 31 Overlay.
Filed by Kevin Roberts of DeBoy Land Development for Allen Commercial Group.
Paul Reis, attorney, Drewy Pitts & Vornehm, 8888 Keystone Crossing, Suite 1200 appeared before the
Commission representing the applicant.
The petitioner failed to publish notice in the newspaper, however the adjoining property owners were noticed
as required. Following some discussion, the consensus was to suspend the Rules of Procedure in order to hear
this item, refer it to Committee, and keep the public hearing open for the February meeting.
Leo Dierckman made formal motion to suspend the Rules of Procedure and hear this item this evening,
seconded by Madeleine Torres, Approved 8-0.
Also in attendance: Members of the Allen Commercial Group, developers Bob Wildman, Tony Alderson and
Chris Hoff; Kevin Roberts, DeBoy Land Development Services; Sean Curran, Architect.
The Allen Commercial Group specializes in medical and professional office construction. The Allen Group is
proposing a specialized medical building for the re-location of two medical practices to the Carmel community:
a pediatric physician group, and an Ear-Nose-Throat (ENT) group as well. The proposed two-story building
will contain approximately 19, 520 square feet, located southwest of the intersection of Old Meridian and
Pennsylvania Streets.
This particular site was brought through the Plan Commission a few years ago; the site is approximately 2.4
acres of undeveloped land and is currently zoned B-6, within the US 31 Overlay Zone. The site is also the
entrance to the Old Meridian District and is an important visual parcel to persons moving north from
Pennsylvania and coming off of Old Meridian entering into the Old Meridian Redevelopment District. The
architecture for the project is consistent with the Old Meridian District Guidelines.
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There will be a path around the entire perimeter of the site; to the north of the site is the construction of the
round-about of Pennsylvania and Old Meridian and significant land has been dedicated for that purpose.
There are approximately 50 feet of right-of-way that was part of the right-of-way that was then US 31 before
the road was relocated. The practices that are relocating to this area are already in existence and aware of
their patient needs; increased parking is a vital part of the relocation.
There are a number of site plan issues that the petitioner is currently addressing with the City Engineer and the
Urban Forester. Those issues deal with being able to maintain the new urban feel of this building coming in to
the Old Meridian District and at the same time, addressing some of the right-of-way issues. Those issues will
be resolved prior to the Committee meeting, and revised plans will be submitted to Committee members in
advance.
At this time, there is no signage for review and the petitioner will return at a later date with a sign package.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor of or opposition to the petition; no one appeared and the
public hearing was closed.
Department Comments, Matt Griffin: The Department is recommending this item be sent to the Special
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Studies Committee on February 7 –the petitioner is to provide the outlined items for an up-dated packet for
review.
Jerry Chomanczuk commented that more landscaping is better.
Madeleine Torres asked about the HVAC equipment and how that would be addressed. Madeleine also said
that she could not get any feel for the architectural style of the building—the pictures are pretty stark.
Sean Curran, architect, presented drawings showing a parapet screen wall—all of the mechanical equipment
for the building will be located within that space and completely screened from view.
Paul Reis said he would distribute up-dated renderings of the building to the Committee.
Docket No. 05120018 DP/ADLS, Old Meridian Professional Building was referred to the Special Studies
Committee for further review on Feb 07, 2006 in the Caucus Rooms of City Hall, Carmel, Indiana.
. Docket No. 06010004 Z: Carmel Drive – Range Line Road Overlay Expansion
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The applicant seeks to rezone 30 parcels from R1/Residence, B1/Business,
B2/Business, B3/Business and I1/Industrial to R1/Residence within the Carmel Drive
– Range Line Rd Overlay, B1/Business within the Carmel Drive – Range Line Rd
Overlay, B2/Business within the Carmel Drive – Range Line Rd Overlay, B3/Business
within the Carmel Drive – Range Line Rd Overlay and I1/Industrial within the Carmel
Drive – Range Line Rd Overlay in order to expand the boundaries of the Carmel
Drive – Range Line Rd Overlay Zone.
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The area is located along Range Line Road from 136 Street to US 31.
Filed by the City of Carmel.
Adrienne Keeling, Department of Community Services appeared before the Commission representing
the City of Carmel. The City is proposing to expand the Carmel Drive/Range Line Road Overlay
Zone to north of Old Town.
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Currently, the Overlay Zone that was initially adopted in 2004 exists along Range Line Road south
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of Old Town down to 116 Street and reaches parts of Carmel Drive just east and west of Range
Line Road.
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The proposal affects 30 parcels and is located (the first two parcels) just south of 136 Street, north
along Range Line Road to US 31. The purpose of the proposed expansion is to adopt development
standards that would serve this transitional area between Old Town and Clay Terrace. The
underlying zoning, whether residential, business or industrial, will remain; however, the zones will be
subject to the development standards within the Overlay Zone.
The Department is recommending that this item be referred to the Subdivision Committee for further
review on February 7, 2006.
Remonstrance/Organized:
Donald Selander
, architect with Harold Sark & Assoc., appeared before the Commission
representing client Gary Runyon, Runyon Rentals, owner of the property currently being leased to
Nations Rent. The lease terminates shortly and Mr. Runyon is considering relocating his current
rental to that particular location and expanding his business. One of the concerns is a sewer issue
that runs through the property, but the main concern with the Overlay Zone is that most of the
businesses being redeveloped are being asked to move their buildings closer to the street to continue
that feel. Considering the nature of Mr. Runyon’s business, most of the parking is to the front and a
lot of displays of the rental equipment are located on the street side for customer visibility. Mr.
Runyon’s concern is whether or not he would have to follow the strict guidelines—that would
probably mean he would not re-develop there—or would Mr. Runyon be able to work with the
Department and counsel to work out an agreement to create the expansion?
Jerry Chomanczuk suggested that Mr. Selander’s comments be addressed at the Committee level.
Department Comments, Matt Griffin: The Department concurs with comments made by Adrienne
Keeling.
Madeleine Torres asked how this proposal would impact the current business owners if they were to
come before the Commission for re-development.
Sue Westermeier asked for a better detail map for review.
Leo Dierckman recalled that at the time Mr. Runyon located on Carmel Drive, he was granted a
removable sign (pursuant to his request) that would allow for community-oriented announcements
and there has never been a community-oriented announcement noted at this location. Item 2: One of
the concerns and reasons for wanting buildings moved closer to the road and not have large parking
areas is to prevent “effectively advertising” in the front of the building. What we see now are large
cranes, fully elevated over three stories for weekend advertising. A lot of effort was made on the
building, but a few little things change the entire complexion—this can be discussed at Committee.
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Docket No. 06010004 Z, Carmel Drive – Range Line Road Overlay Expansion
was referred to
the Subdivision Committee for further review on February 07, 2006 in the Caucus Rooms of City
Hall, Carmel, Indiana.
I. Old Business
Docket No. 05100038: Clarian North Expansion
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The applicant seeks to create 1 medical office building, as an addition to the existing
Clarian North facility, on 57.950 acres.
The site is located at 11700 North Meridian Street and is zoned PUD (US 31 Overlay
District).
Filed by Joseph Scimia of Baker & Daniels for Clarian Health Partners, Inc.
Roger Kilmer, Land Use Consultant with Baker & Daniels appeared before the Commission representing
Clarian Health Partners. Also in attendance: Adam Kaiser, Jacobs Construction Management; Dennis
Veercamp, Viagi Engineers.
At this time, Clarian is requesting DP/ADLS Amend approval for a medical office building, the second
medical office building for Clarian. The proposed building consists of approximately 133,000 square feet,
5 stories in height, plus a screening wall for the HVAC units and related mechanicals. The addition is
consistent with exterior building materials and color to the existing, original project and also consistent
with the overall concept plan.
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The Special Studies Committee reviewed this project on January 3 and there were three primary items
that were discussed: Pedestrian Connectivity (walks and paths around the facility) Signage/street
addressing on the buildings for easy location, and landscaping status. At the time of the Special Studies
Committee meeting, the petitioner had not yet received comments from the City Urban Forester. Those
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comments were received January 9. Four of the items were routine; however the fifth item pertained to
special planting requirements for the trees that are proposed for the parking lot islands. The concern was
for the longevity of the trees.
Mr. Kilmer commented that at the scale of this project, the total cost would be approximately $47,000 and
the petitioner would like to investigate some alternative solutions with the Urban Forester. At this time,
Mr. Kilmer asked for approval of the DP/ADLS contingent upon approval from Scott Brewer of the
landscape plan.
Department Comments: Matt Griffin noted that the Department has no additional concerns regarding this
project and requests that the Commission consider approving this item as forwarded by the Committee.
Jerry Chomanczuk reported that the building is part of the original, entire Clarian PUD and went through
a very thorough analysis and review process. The Committee looked at parking, lighting, connectivity
from the new building to the main building, the surrounding trail, etc. The Committee voted 5-0 for a
positive recommendation.
Apparently the situation with the trees is not just the initial cost but also the procedure for planting the
trees. The petitioner would like to explore other options or alternatives with the Urban Forester. The
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petitioner would like not to spend $1,000 in special soil for each tree planted. The concern is for 47 of the
trees—not all of the trees. The petitioner would like an opportunity for open dialogue with the Urban
Forester for alternatives or solutions.
Leo Dierckman commented that the overall project is absolutely huge, a wide open, asphalt village with
cars and there needs to be the proper conditions for trees to grow.
Again, the petitioner would like an opportunity to discuss alternatives with the Urban Forester.
Docket No. 05100038 ADLS Amend/DP, Clarian
Steve Stromquist made formal motion to approve
North Expansion
, subject to conversation/open dialogue and approval by the City Urban Forester of the
APPROVED
planting of 47 trees within the parking islands of the parking lot, seconded by Rick Ripma,
8-0.
Docket No. 05120002 OA: Patch VI – Ordinance Amendment
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The applicant seeks to Amend Chapter 6: Standards of Design and Chapter 9: Plat
Certificates, Deed of Dedication of the Carmel Subdivision Control Ordinance.
The applicant seeks to Amend Chapter 3: Definitions; Chapter 5: S-1/Residence District;
Chapter 23C: US Highway 421 – Michigan Road Corridor Overlay Zone; Chapter 23F:
Carmel Drive - Range Line Road Overlay Zone; Chapter 25: Additional Use Regulations;
Chapter 25.07: Sign Ordinance and Appendix A: Schedule of Uses of the Carmel Zoning
Ordinance.
Filed by the Carmel Department of Community Services.
Adrienne Keeling, Long Range Planner with the Department of Community Services appeared before the
Commission representing the applicant. This particular item was before the Commission for public hearing on
December 20, 2005, and was extensively reviewed by the Subdivision Committee on January 3, 2006.
Adrienne Keeling explained that the Committee had removed language that dealt with Mining, Chapter 5 of the
Zoning Ordinance and language dealing with the Michigan Road Overlay, Chapter 23C. Along with the
mining language, changes to Appendix A would be removed. Other notable amendments that took place at
Committee are highlighted in the information packets.
There are also some clarifications in definitions of permanent and temporary signs. Another revision: a
maximum of 5 lots would need to occur before the subdivision construction sign would need to be removed;
the Committee added a stipulation that this is subject to the determination by the Director of the Dept.
The Department is recommending that this item be forwarded to the City Council with a favorable
recommendation.
Committee Report, Rick Ripma: The Committee separated some of the items out of the document so that they
could go through the balance of the information. The Committee felt comfortable with those items.
Madeleine Torres asked about the number of lots that could constitute a subdivision.
Matt Griffin responded that if land is cut less than five acres, it is a subdivision unless access is derived
directly from a public right-of-way and there is at least 50 feet of frontage on a right-of-way.
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Docket No. 05120002 OA: Patch VI-Ordinance Amendment
Rick Ripma made formal motion to forward to
Approved
the City Council with a positive recommendation, seconded by Madeleine Torres, 8-0.
Rick Ripma made formal motion to direct the Department to initiate new Ordinances on the topics of
mining and Michigan Road, seconded by Madeleine Torres, Approved 8-0.
J.New Business
. Docket No. 05120021 ADLS: Ritz Charles
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The applicant seeks to build a glass building adjacent to the existing Ritz Charles
building.
The site is located at 12156 North Meridian Street and is zoned B-6.
Filed by E. Davis Coots of Coots, Henke, and Wheeler for Chuck Lazzara.
Dave Coots, Coots, Henke & Wheeler appeared before the Commission representing the applicant.
Chuck Lazzara, owner of the Ritz Charles was also in attendance.
The applicant is seeking permission to construct a glass building adjacent to the existing Ritz Charles
building in order to accommodate overflow functions without having to construct a tent in inclement
weather.
Chuck Lazzara has agreed to make the glass building a permanent structure with a metal roof—same
dimensions as the tent. The glass structure would be seasonal only, no heating or air conditioning,
no plumbing facilities.
Department Comments, Matt Griffin: The Department would prefer Committee review.
The Commission agreed and Docket No. 05120021 ADLS, Ritz Charles was forwarded to the
Special Studies Committee for further review.
Leo Dierckman made formal motion to grant the Special Studies Committee full ability to approve
Docket 05120021 ADLS, Ritz Charles
, rather than having it return to the full Commission,
seconded by Susan Westermeier, Approved 8-0.
There was no further business to come before the Commission and the meeting adjourned at 7:45
P.M.
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Jerry Chomanczuk, President
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Ramona Hancock, Secretary
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