HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes PC 03-15-22 A Motion made by Rider and seconded by Zoccola to approve Docket Nos. PZ-2021-00009 DP/ADLS and PZ-2022-
00024 ZW.Approved 6-0,absent Hill,Holle,Kirsh.
Old Business:
1. Docket No.PZ-2020-00081 DP/ADLS: The Steadman Apartment Community at The Bridges.
2. Docket No.PZ-2021-00247 V: Bridges PUD Z-550-11 Sec. 13.9.D: Right-in/Right-out access only onto 111th
St.,Full Access onto 111th St.Requested.
The applicant seeks site plan and design approval and a variance for a new apartment community consisting of
263 units in 5 buildings. The site is located at the northeast corner of Springmill Road and 111th Street,on about
12.5 acres. It is zoned The Bridges PUD,Ordinance Z-550-11. Filed by Jim Shinaver and Jon Dobosiewicz of
Nelson&Frankenberger on behalf of Cityscape Residential,LLC.
Petitioner:Jon Dobosiewicz
• Presented aerial view, landscape plan,
• Bridges PUD was approved in 2011,the multi-family dwellings are a permitted use within the residential use
block of the Bridges PUD.A DP/ADLS review and approval of the site plan is required.
• 263 dwellings are being proposed
• The southernmost building was modified into a L-shape to help break up the building that faces 111t Street. We
added a 3200 sq.ft.outdoor courtyard(greenspace)adjacent to this building.
• Bicycle storage has been incorporated into every building
• Crosswalks were eliminated behind buildings 1 and 2 moved internally for safety reasons
• All light fixtures are downlighting with 90-degree cutoffs
• Additional evergreen trees were added to the berm.Per the Urban Forester's request,the evergreens will be
placed on the outside side of the berm,and the shade trees will be placed on the interior side of the berm.
• We worked with Staff on the signage package,with a condition that the sign located at the north entrance is
moved 5-ft from the internal drive
• The Residential Committee voted 3-0 to send it back to the full PC for approval
• Staff recommends approval,conditioned for final Engineering approval of the round-about design
Department Report: Alexia Lopez:
• Petitioner has made many changes based on the Staff and neighbor comments
• Staff and Engineering both support the variance request of the roundabout installation at 111th Street entrance
• The Urban Forester is comfortable with the buffer landscaping along Spring Mill Road and 111th Street
• The proposed north end sign is too close to the easement,and the Petitioner agreed to move it
• Staff recommends approval with the condition of the Engineering approval and the sign is setback 5-ft
Residential Committee Recap,Christine Zoccola:
• We recommended approval condition upon final approval of the landscaping, lighting, pedestrian access plans,
and the Engineering approval of the roundabout design
Committee Comments:
Sue: We received feedback from Commissioner Kirsh about an 8' path on both sides of the north/side the access drive off
of 111th Street.Jon Dobosiewicz: We don't have control of the owner of the real estate on the eastern parcel. We have
communicated this to the owner,and this will be addressed when the eastern parcel is developed.
Sue: Were there any discussions about a pedestrian mid-walk crosswalk that crosses Spring Mill Road to Williams Mill?
Jon Dobosiewicz: That wasn't included in our proposal. The Cannel Engineering Dept.and Board of Public Works
would be in charge of that.
Sue: Is the size of the berm restricting the visibility of drivers entering and exiting the proposed mini roundabout?I don't
feel comfortable the roundabout being installed until the eastern parcel is redeveloped. 111t' Street is designated as an
arterial road. Will sidewalks be installed in this area?I would recommend denying this variance as of now and be revisited
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at a later date.
Sue: Can you show the line of sight from Spring Mill Road and 111th Street(from the subdivision entrances)?Jon
Dobosiewicz: Presented an exhibit. The 5-story buildings will not be visible from the sidewalk on Spring Mill Road.
Kevin: We can make the developer pay for the roundabout. If we deny it,then the City will have to pay for the
roundabout. Engineering is going to build it no matter what. Sue: I'm not sure if it's the wiser decision.Kevin:
Engineering won't build it if it's not safe.It has to get final approval from Engineering.
Brad: Did Engineering explain the rational of the mini roundabout on 1116'Street?Jon Dobosiewicz: It's been a decade
of development since the PUD was approved.Roundabouts didn't exist on Illinois Street and Spring Mill Road as they do
today.We asked Carmel Engineering,and they believe it's the right decision and the safest.Alexia Lopez: Reads letter
from the Carmel Engineer about installing this roundabout-this letter will be attached to the minutes and is also
viewable in Laserfiche. Brad: So,Engineering's position is right-in,and right-outs don't work without a median. I'm
struggling with the access here and the fact the Petition came to us with a more modest proposal for that access.I wish
Engineering were here to defend the argument there are negative benefits of a right-in,and right-out.Alexia Lopez: From
a Planning perspective,the roundabout aligns with Spring Mill Lane.It will slow traffic down. Left turns out of Spring
Mill Place would be easier and safer.
A Motion made by Rider and seconded by to Zoccola approve Docket Nos.PZ-2020-00081 DP/ADLS contingent
upon the changes to the signage.Approved 6-0,absent Hill,Holle,Kirsh.
A Motion made by Rider and seconded by Zoccola to approve PZ-2021-00247 V contingent upon Engineering
approval.4-2,Grabow,Westermeier,absent Hill,Holle,Kirsh.Motion fails,due to lack of majority
• PZ-2021-00247 V will be heard again at the Apri119, 2022 Plan Commission meeting.
3. Docket No.PZ-2021-00177 CP: Carmel Clay Comprehensive Plan Update.
The applicant seeks to update and reformat the Carmel Clay Comprehensive Plan.Filed by the Department of
Community Services on behalf of the Carmel Plan Commission.
Petitioner:Adrienne Keeling,Department of Community Services:
• We had five committee meetings and one public hearing. This will be the seventh meeting in front of the PC
• We conducted an online survey and had several pop-up meetings throughout the City
• Our team have spoken at 14 additional meetings,that included the Cannel Neighborhood Association Network,
Council sponsored Town Hall meetings,HOA meetings,Cannel Small Business Network,One Zone Business
Issues Committee,and Cannel City Council
• With the help of the Community Relations Dept.,we released mailers to over 4,100 email subscribers. The Plan
Commission agendas were sent out to everyone who submitted a letter or comment. Three quarterly print news
mailers were mailed out to approx. 75k addresses.We streamed and recorded all of our meetings and those can be
viewed on the City's social media and website.
• Our Comprehensive Plan will be used by current and future residents
• We are on our 3`d draft of the Comprehensive Plan
• Any City Council amendments will come back to the Plan Commission for review and approval
• Staff recommends the Plan Commission certify the proposed Comprehensive Plan to the City Council
Committee Recap,Christine Zoccola,Chair:
• We spent collectively hundreds of hours reviewing and did,a very through detailed review.In the end we
requested a lot of changes and those are marked in the current draft of the Comp Plan.
• Some changes are not shown. We removed the term"hospitality"in the Estates section. Maps were updated.
• The changes we made were reflective of the comments we received.Generally,the public are supportive of the
traditional neighborhoods,preserving greenspace,and a vibrant urban core.
• We received concerns that the designations of typical corridors would be in high density,and we removed some
of those corridors
• We added in language for tree preservation and incorporated language to preserve greenspace and conservation
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