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Mr. Kiphart stated that Board of Zoning Appeals has approved a 3rd sign
and two signs facing U. S. 31 , but all other signs must have approval of Plan
Commission and the Board of Zoning Appeals, our recommendation was that Plan
Commission does need to make the decision (which is a part of the official
minutes and attached to the Master Copy) .
Mrs. Badger moved to suspend the rules and act on this tonight.
Mr. Potasnik seconded.
The motion carried.
Mr. Kevin Miller presented the sign package per plans on file with the
Carmel Department of Community Development.
Mrs. Badger moved that Docket No. 85-88 ADLS be approved for the tenant
R. E. Max Real Estate as presented.
Mr. Boone seconded.
Approved 10-0.
The motion carried.
3h. Commission to consider Docket No. 86-88 ADLS an Architectural
Design , Lighting, Landscaping and Signage Plan Application for the
remodeling of Carmel Walk Shopping Center located at 1305-1329
South Range Line Road , Carmel . Site is zoned B-8. Petitioner
proposes to upgrade facade of building , amend the sign package,
add landscaping , parking areas and curbs.
Filed by Mark Olnick for Mark Fineberg/Landmark Investments, Inc.
Mr. E. Davis Coots, 255 E. Carmel Drive, made presentation.
The Site plan and elevations were shown which are on file with the Carmel
Department of Community Development.
Sign Package was presented. Sign will be cranberry in color , not to
exceed 2 ' in height , with silver edge on letters. Building will be painted
gray and cranberry.
Mr. Potasnik questioned if there were individual signs on the facia of
the building.
Mr. Coots stated there are individual signs.
This item will go to the Industrial and Commercial Committee on September
6, 1988 at City Meeting Hall .
4h. Commission to consider Docket No. 87-88 ADLS, an Architectural
Design , Lighting , Landscaping and Signage Plan application for a
new 47,250 square foot (phase one 31 ,250 sq. ft. , phase two 16,000
sq. ft. ) one story office building for Firestone Building Products
Inc. this building is to be located in the Meridian Technology
Center complex at the intersection of Congressional Blvd. and
117th Street , Carmel , Indiana. This site is zoned B-6.
Filed by Mr. Kevin Miller for Technology Center Associated Ltd.
Mr. Michael C. Browning , General Partner.
Mr. Kevin Miller presented the following information , a copy of which is
on file with the Carmel Department of Community Development.
Site Plan was shown.
Elevation and Landscape Plans were shown.
Mr. Boone questioned what will racing stripe be made out of?
Mr. Miller stated it would be a 1 ' tall band made of drivet material and
painted.
Mrs. Badger questioned if it will be illuminated in any way, and is there
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a parapet on building that will hide mechanical equipment.
Mr. Miller stated the stripe is not illuminated and there will be a
parapet on the building.
This item will go to the Industrial and Commercial Committee meeting on
September 6, 1988 at the 7: .30 P. M. at the City Meeting Hall .
5h. Commission to consider the recommendation of the Subdivision
Committee which request that the Carmel /Clay Flan Commission at
tonight 's meeting enact a moratorium to not consider future
cluster housing subdivisions for a period of 120 days or until a
new ordinance is enacted dealing with "Cluster Housing/Zero Lot
Line/Small Lot Subdivisions" whichever is less.
Recommended by the Carmel /Clay Plan Commission/Subdivision
Committee.
Mr. Albright of the Subdivision Committee stated they have been working
on upgrading the existing ordinance on Cluster Housing.
Mr. Albright moved that we enact a moratorium to not consider future
Cluster Housing subdivisions for a period of 120 days or until a new
ordinance is enacted whichever is less.
Mrs. Lamb seconded.
Mr. Kiphart read staff recommendations (which is a part of the official
minutes and attached to the Master Copy) .
Mr. Johnson questioned whether we have the authority to have a
moratorium?
Mr. Byers stated that he needs to do some research on this. First
thought is that the Flan Commission does not have the authority to declare a
moratorium on zoning or land use regulations that our remedy is to change the
ordinance through the normal process of an Advisory Flan Commission and refer
to • the common council . Until he gives it his personal review his advise was
not to act on this tonight . Mr. Byers feels that the proper solution is to
change the ordinance and make it deal with what our intent is and what the
thoughts of the community would be after proper public hearing.
Mr. F'otasnik: questioned that if we voted on this tonight would there need
to be a final action by the City Council .
Mr. Byers stated that technically zoning ordinances are changed by
Council . To act on something without having valid research done, in his
opinion , would be unwise.
Mr. Johnson feels that the Flan Commission does not have the authority to
act on this matter that the alternate solution that Mr. Kiphart presented is
also a deviation from the rules and the procedures that are already enacted
and in place. It was Mr. Johnson ' s opinion to rescind the existing Cluster
Housing as permitted ordinance and work on a new ordinance.
Mr. F'otasnik: questioned the second part of staff ' s recommendation , can we
enforce the purpose and intent of the existing ordinance?
Mr. Byers stated that it is probably what we ought to do anyway. We need
to review the ordinance and the project if the project meets the requirements
and the intent and purpose of the ordinance The project is put on the Plan
Commission Agenda.
Mr. Johnson questioned of the Cluster Ordinance, what if the submitted
project does not meet the purpose and intent?
Mr. Albright stated whether or not it meets the purpose and intent is
somewhat subjective and all we have been reviewing for compliance with
numbers in the ordinance as opposed to the original purpose and intent. Mr.
Albright is not sure why we are dealing with this as a zoning matter , seems
we are talking about approval of a subdivision matter and subdivisions do