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HomeMy WebLinkAboutCOM 05-05-22 (0114 ma �( " City of C Km.,..t...."' Cannel Plan Commission COMMERCIAL COMMITTEE Thursday, May 5,2022 Meeting Minutes Location: Carmel City Hall Caucus Rooms,2nd Floor, 1 Civic Square,Cannel,IN 46032 Members Present: Alan Potasnik(Chair), Kevin Rider,Dubbie Buckler,Jeff Hill Staff Present: Rachel Keesling(Planning Administrator),Lisa Motz(Recording Secretary),Mike Hollibaugh (Director of DOCS) Legal Counsel: Sergey Grechukhin,Allison Lynch-Mcgrath Time of Meeting: 6:00 PM The Commercial Committee met to review the following items: 1. TABLED to JUNE 7—PZ-2022-00034 ADLS Amend: Circle K Rebrand—College Plaza. The applicant seeks approval for signage and brand modifications/updating.The site is located at 10598 College Ave. It is zoned B-1Business and is located in the Homeplace Business Sub-Area Overlay District. Filed by Amy Leska of Corporate Identification Solutions on behalf of the owner. 2. TABLED to JUNE 7—PZ-2022-00036 ADLS Amend: Circle K Rebrand. The applicant seeks approval for signage and brand modifications/updating. The site is located at 545 S. Rangeline Road.It is zoned B-1Business and is located in the Rangeline Road Overlay District. Filed by Amy Leska of Corporate Identification Solutions on behalf of the owner. 3. Docket No.PZ-2022-00001 DP/ADLS: Culver's. The applicant seeks site plan and design approval for new Culver's restaurant. The site is located at 431 E. Cannel Drive. It is zoned B-8/Business and is not located in any overlay zone. Filed by Bob Goins of K&J Investments XVL,LLC. Petitioner: Jim Shinaver,Jon Dobosiewicz Jon informed committee the changes that were made since the last meeting per Staff additional requests.On the front façade facing Carmel Dr. stone material came down in the area behind the sign and the columns with EIFS above. The stone material on the columns was elevated to the parapet wall just below the band there and then the material behind the sign was changed from the stone materials to brick to mimic the other areas that are between the columns.This was also done on the elevation that faces South.Everything that can be seen as masonry brick was stone material.Other adjustments were to match the height of the"towers"—the element above the Drive-thru,the element at the front of the store,the rear,and the costumer entrance on the West side.These changes satisfy,based on our discussion with Staff,the remaining comments,and concerns item#1.Regarding item#2,Parking Lot Pole cut sheets have been supplied per ordinance requirements,we have sent Staff this copy, it is a standard Pole height light,downward lighting LED full cut-off per the ordinance requirements. With regards to the Landscape plan approval,Rachel asked that we double check with the Urban Forester.A copy of the most current Landscape Plan,which hasn't substantially changed but added a few plants/trees on the South side of the development,has been sent to Daren Mindham. Signage under tab 8 complies.The menu order board complies in all respects to the requirements in the Ordinance. Staff has requested that we use a masonry base rather than a metal base,which would match the materials on the building, stone or brick, the materials have not been selected yet. We would request that the committee make its recommendation subject to that change being made. We will come back to you on the 17d'with a plan that shows how that masonry base would be Iestablished on the sign.Finally,there are two items included in the recommendations made by Staff;the petitioner is agreeable that we would ask for approval from the Plan Commission(PC)of the DP/ADLS subject to us contributing to the Non-Reverting Thoroughfare Fund after determining the cost of the asphalt path rather than tearing down the existing walk that is there today. 1 Commercial Committee Meeting Minutes 3-29-22 Department Report: Rachel Keesling • Jon covered all the changes well. We really wanted to make sure that the pilasters looked like columns and previously they had stopped right at the line of the awnings. That did not make sense visually. I am happy with the way it turned out by taking the stone to the top. • The back side of the building previously had fake windows and the awnings over those,this change happened while I was on vacation and was happy to see that change. It was a unique way to put some life back into the back part of the building. • The canopy over the drive thru lane now matches the building cornice better. Previously it was all dark.Now the top is dark,and the bottom is light and that better matches the building. • Signage,we had a question about an item labeled as a Pre-sale sign, and usually that means that there is another menu sign after that. In this case there is not. We also had questions about clearance signs on the canopy or any other signage.No other signage will be on canopy. • Lighting specifications are there now. I looked over the landscape plan approval on Daren's notes and there are some species change-outs and some caliper sizes that needed to be changed.I will touch base with him before the PC meeting to make sure that he is ok to sign off on this. • Recommend positive consideration back to full PC subject to the monetary commitment for the Non-Reverting Thoroughfare Fund and landscape plan approval which we will have before the PC meeting. Committee Comments: Alan Potasnik • North/Front Elevation: It has a door on the left side,I don't see the door there.Jon: It's recessed back, it's the door that is below that side canopy. The canopy location was clarified. • Is that door a public entrance? Bob Goins: it is not prohibited,but it is mainly used for food runners for the drive thru. • Concerned about there being no Signage at drive thru canopy. Is that in the form of a commitment or they are just saying that we are not going to do it. Rachel: they could have clearance or directional signs.Accessory structures are not allowed to have signage other than informational, safety type signage that would be 3sf or less. There could not be any additional Culver's signage.Alan: So,on the canopy roof itself,and the columns they can't add any signage. Bob Goins: usually we would put safety markings,clearance,etc. on there.Kevin: that is permitted under a certain size. Rachel: when you submit for your sign permits you can add that in. • We were told at the public hearing that the changeable copy sign was going to be manual,do you have a preference?Rachel: It still has to be manual;they can't have an electronic reader sign out there.Alan: So,no matter what that's the way it is.Jon: Because it is prohibited in the ordinance. Rachel: The drive thru menu sign could be electronic.Alan: And on top of the Pre-sale boards,there is not going to be any type of advertising,you can't add any. Rachel: You can't have any extra signs tacked on to the sides or top. Jeff Hill • On the building we have the parapet walls to hide the equipment that might be up there,on the drive thru canopy, is there's nothing on the roof? Bob Goins:No,there is nothing on that roof. A Motion made by Kevin Rider and seconded by Jeff Hill to forward Docket No.PZ-2022-00001 DP/ADLS back to full Plan Commission with a positive recommendation subject to a contribution to the Non-Reverting Thoroughfare Fund,Staff approval of the material on the base of the Menu Board Sign,and Landscaping approval by the City. Approved 4-0. 4. TABLED to JUNE 7—PZ-2022-00033 ADLS Amend: Ozwell Fitness. 2 Commercial Committee Minutes 3-29-22 The applicant seeks approval for the remodel and expansion of the former Williams Comfort Air building for 111 a new fitness facility.The site is located at 1077 3rd Avenue SW.It is zoned I-1/Industrial and is not located within any overlay district.Filed by David Gilman of Land Development Services on behalf of the owner. 5. Docket No.PZ-2022-00044 ADLS Amend: The Maples at North End. The applicant seeks approval for the renovation of an existing home into a restaurant. The renovation will include an addition to the rear and an outdoor patio. The site is 0.43 acres and is located at 875 Freeland Way. It is zoned UR/Urban Residential and is not located within any overlay zone.Filed by Rebecca McGuckin of Old Town Companies. Petitioner: Rebecca McGuckin,Justin Moffett • Presented the Maples, it is less than '/2 acre, 1880s home. In response to Mr.Littlejohn's comments,the path is a work in progress and how we make that a good experience and ADA accessible.You can see that it is preserving the rectangular structure and then the proposed building expansion to goes to the North and comes over slightly to the East as well. There is also an outdoor patio. • The Landscape plan: as many trees as possible will be preserved. One large tree may need to be removed due to safety.We do have additional trees planned in case trees need to be removed. • New elevations: looking North we are preserving all the original,the vestibule to the West is new and that is a dark clap siding as well as the siding that you see to the left(facing the pool).The East elevation has a brick façade,that is where the outdoor dining will be. We are blending a little bit of modern with the historic darker colors with the siding,there will be a two-sided fireplace on the furthest Northern portion facing East. We are keeping the white brick and additionally continuing that bright brick for the exterior portion of the outdoor seating.Copper painted aluminum gutters and this shows the look and feel for what we plan for exterior lighting. This is conceptual,we are still working with our operator,this is one way it could be laid out. • Ramp connecting to the ADA spaces is a work in progress.There is a little bit of grade change, so we are bringing up the front of the building to the finished floor elevation of the home, so in terms of slope,we are working with the civil engineers to get the easiest access to it. Where it is planned right now,there will be another door to the side as well as the main entry door.It is also envisioned that the ADA ramp would also extend West and connect into the pool area. • Dumpster enclosure and trash corral: on the Northernmost exposure there are 25ft marked off, so it is envisioned as a trash corral,there are 8 totes. The mixed use and residential component(the apartments)are using a valet service for trash, so the company comes through in daily to get the resident's trash. We would also work with that company to pick up the restaurant trash daily as well. The dumpster enclosure for the entire development is just North and slightly East of the Maples, so there will be a path there. Department Report: Rachel Keesling • Rebecca covered everything. The department report has an outline of the project history and how the North End has evolved. • Variances were previously approved throughout the process to make everything fit within the existing zoning classification of UR.They received a Use Variance to have this restaurant here and they also received a Variance for front setbacks pertaining to this building remaining in its current location instead of being moved. It will be at the end of the circle drive so it will terminate your view as you come in from Smokey Row Rd. • It was a fairly simple review,all of the lighting and landscaping was simple and filling in where they could as far as the Landscaping goes. There is no signage proposed at this time,there might be in the future and that could come with the overall development signage that has not been figured out yet. There are no items this doesn't meet as far as the UDO goes,we really like the design of the building and feel that the preservation of the existing is very important.The new addition will be simple and complimentary and won't stand out in front of the existing historic portion of the building. • I would recommend that we vote to approve this subject to finalizing the ProjectDox review process with all the Departments and Urban Forester approval. 3 Commercial Committee Minutes 3-29-22 Committee Comments: Dubbie Buckler • I am curious how far back is the corral. Rachel: It is at the very back end adjacent to the kitchen. Dubbie: I am just trying to visualize it.Rachel: The steps here lead down to the circle drive. Dubbie: So,unless you are walking around back there you won't see it. Rachel: Unless you are walking around to it you won't see it and it will be completely gated and enclosed. Rachel: Remember there will be a future pool out here and there will a sidewalk that connects out and over. A Motion made by Kevin Rider and seconded by Dubbie Buckler to approve Docket No. PZ-2022-00044 ADLS Amend subject to ProjectDox and Landscaping approval. Approved 4-0. Meeting adjourned at 6:29 PM. j6(k_ 111A-D71— Lisa Motz Record'4scretary Alan Potas ik Committee Chairman 4 Commercial Committee Minutes 3-29-22